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8/10/2010 2:43:24 AM  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


My best friend is a man and I had fallen in love with him. We talked about it and he knows how I felt. But for him we are just friends.

My question is... Is it bad for me to ask God if he could make my friend love me back the way I love him?

It says in the Bible Matthew 7:7 Ask, and you will be given what you ask for. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened.

Also in John 14:14 Yes, ask anything, using my name and I will do it!

I pray about it all the time that God will put that seed of love in his heart and that someday it will grow and blossom.

Here's the catch, he is interested in another woman and this woman dump him without any explanation.

Then this month they decided to pursue their relationship and start over.

I am broken hearted. Now I'm praying that God will send this woman another man to love and just leave my best friend to me to love.

That's very selfish of me... but I couldn't help it! I love him so much... What am I supposed to do? HELP!!!

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8/10/2010 3:13:56 AM San Jose, CA  
justbones25
Alabaster, AL
47, joined Jan. 2010


This is totally my opinion because I went thru something similar.......

I think you need to continue to pray and seek God for your answer. Pray for your best friend to be happy and for your happiness. You need to support him or you might also lose his friendship.

My story, my best friend was separated from his wife for 1 1/2 years. Lived in separate houses. I knew he still loved her alot so I prayed ever day for them to work there marriage out. Mean while he and I got closer...spending lots of time together but mostly talking about her. I knew he loved her, but he was lonely and we kissed one night. That changed how I felt about him then. I now had feelings for him. Well they decided that next week to try to work things out. So I sent him an email telling him how I couldn't be upset that my prayer was answered but that deep down I had hoped they didn't get back together because I
had feelings for him and wanted to make him happy....well his wife read the email before he did...so I get a call on a Wednesday night going out the door to church from this guy, he is all angry and mad at me saying she read the email...thanks! Now we are most definitely getting a divorce. I kept saying how sorry I was..he said if you truely care about me just leave me alone. I have never felt the pain I felt from that ever before. So now I lost my best friend because I was being selfish and wanted more. Thank God he accidentally message me, I wasn't sure whether to respond but glad I did. He said they had worked things out and were together again. Yea it hurt but gave me closure.

Sorry, idk if that helped any at all. I just know if I had to do over I would rather have his friendship than nothing at all. I wish you the best on this that you may have peace and happiness. I will be praying for you.

Patti

8/10/2010 3:50:41 AM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Hi Patti,

Thank you for sharing your story. I’m just like you, I would rather have his friendship than nothing at all. But yet it hurts! I wish, I’m the one he’s in love with. He tried to protect me from getting hurt by not telling me what’s going on in their relationship. When she first dumped him with no explanation…he was so miserable. I felt so bad for him. I wish I could make him happy.
He told me that it was all because of me that’s why he had a courage to pursue her. I was very persistent, patient and have lots of hope that someday, we will have that relationship. In another word it back fires at me. It worked for him but didn’t work for me.
I wish he didn’t see that characteristic in me. I was happy for a while when there’s no third person. Even though we are “JUST FRIENDS”. I’m being selfish here again. I just want him for myself.

I tried to stay away from him so I don’t get hurt more but I miss him so much, I feel like I’m losing my head, there are times I wish God would just take me away! I get so depressed, I didn’t want to get up anymore, didn’t feel like doing anything, all I do was cry. Then I started asking God why? Why God let this thing happen to me as if I don’t have enough heart ache in my life? I need prayer… please pray for our relationship.

Thank you and God bless. By the way, it’s nice meeting you. Take care. Maria

Ps. He's the one that wrote my profile, so I will find someone to love and love me back. He told me that he wants me to be happy too! He is so sweet that's why I love him so much. Thanks again! Good night.

8/10/2010 8:41:03 AM San Jose, CA  
carsonguy1951
Over 1,000 Posts (1,792)
Carson City, NV
64, joined Sep. 2008


I think our Heavenly Father wants us to bring all of our burdens and cares to Him... so in short, asking is not a bad thing.

The real trick is to be listening for His answer which may not be the answer that you want to hear... or it may not be the time....

I don't think God makes anyone do anything..... so asking our Heavenly Father to make someone love you or be a certain sort of person is probably not going to work no matter how often you ask.

Jesus said He wanted to gather His people to Him like a hen gathers her chicks but He does not send out angels and force them.....

8/10/2010 9:22:05 AM San Jose, CA  

inhisshoes
Valley Park, MO
45, joined Jun. 2010


"The real trick is to be listening for His answer which may not be the answer that you want to hear... or it may not be the time...."


I agree Mariel61, Hello
I remember in my using days,(I'm a recovering addict) and remember in the past, when I would relapse. It all happened in my head before I actually, physically would use. I'm telling you this because, I purposely would not pray or call anyone for help because I knew it would work and I wanted my results, not Gods...
You, on the other hand, are asking for help, but I think you are dead set on this friend being yours whether God says yes or not. I know where your coming from and I don't want to sound mean about this at all! Try not to get obsessed over it, and if it's right, God will make it so I pray, in Jesus name, for your heart to be at ease, no matter how this turns out. I Wish you the very best

8/10/2010 11:03:21 AM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Carson guy ~ You are right, I should be listening for God’s answer. I’m afraid that it’s not the answer I want to hear or it may not be the time. I'm in denial and my heart was set on this man (which is wrong). I should be patient and wait for God to send me THE ONE.

Inhisshoes ~ Thank you for sharing. You know, sometimes I purposely would not pray because I was mad at God (silent treatment). I know it’s wrong (I’m not proud of what I did) and I tried to reason with God sometimes. All my life, I tried so hard to do the right thing… even sacrificed my own needs and wants for the sake of my family and others. This time, I want something for myself. Sometimes, I wonder why God put me and my best friend together then just end up getting hurt? As if I don’t have enough pain and heartache in my life (I’m physically challenge, abused and treated like slave when I was young).

Anyway, Thank you Carson guy and Inhisshoes for support, sharing and prayers. God Bless

8/10/2010 11:24:11 AM San Jose, CA  
sparklingbeam
Over 1,000 Posts (1,339)
Melbourne, FL
74, joined Jun. 2009


God gives man and woman free will and God will not force His will or your will on anyone else.

Make sure your relationship lines up with the word of God.

The word of God and the Spirit of God will always agree.

If your spirit is telling you one thing and the word of God is telling you something else then your spirit is not in line with the word of God.

I have had married women tell me, God had told them, this married man with children was going to be their husband. One woman wanted me to pray that God would remove the other woman out of his life so she could marry this man. She was calling him and meeting him.m Several men, had reached the point of trying to avoid her. She tried to get me to call them for her.

These women had been Christians for many years and thought they were hearing from God. They were shocked when I told them that God does not work like that. He does not tell you He is going to give you another womans husband especially when you already have a husband, or if the man is already living with his wife. No where in the Bible does the Bible support such conduct.

The Bible says, some will believe a lie and be damned.

Be careful that you are not deceived. The Devil paints a beautiful picture to get you in his trap or control, then the devil turns on you, when he has you in his control.

When we stray from the word of God, we walk away from the umbrella of God's protection and into the bondage of Satan.

When we are obedient to God's word, then we are happy and blessed and highly favored of God.,

Ask God to bring your flesh in line with His Word. He will settle your emotions and give you peace. Glynda

8/10/2010 11:30:41 AM San Jose, CA  

inhisshoes
Valley Park, MO
45, joined Jun. 2010


Your very welcome Mariel61 Yea, it does get frustrating when you have feelings for someone and they are different from the feelings they have for you. All I can say is, keep seeking God and let your light shine. You never know, if Jesus is beaming out of you in the way you live your life, in my opinion, it can be a very attractive thing. Whatever you do, if the friendship is healthy, don't let it slip away.

8/10/2010 11:49:13 AM San Jose, CA  
rcsyoungerdays
North Fort Myers, FL
64, joined Mar. 2010


That was a good question many have ask. The answer is what Sparklingbeam said.. No, we are free will agents; and god will not impose against our will. To try to force some one against their will is the spirit of witch craft. If I may suggest, if you like this man, tell him. Don't be afraid to let him know that you like him. He may be feeling the same way, yet he doesn't know how you feel. If he doesn't feel the same way, you need to accept it and move on. The main thing is, keep making your self available through your profile. Roam wasn't built in a day... neither is a relationship.

8/10/2010 12:43:51 PM San Jose, CA  

walt_oftheearth
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,889)
Avondale, AZ
60, joined Feb. 2008


Marie, I can really identify, relate and empathize with what you are experiencing, because I have been kind of in your shoes on a couple of occasions. It can be so heart rending to love someone and not have them have similar feelings, adoration and devotion towards us.

I do agree with you that as Jesus said, we are to ask and knock, and we shall receive, and it shall be opened to us. But in matters of the heart like this, we also understand that God respects free will. This doesn't mean that God may not impress and influence your friend to find within himself growing a tender seed/ sprout of love for you, yet the only part you play in this is being very sure that you believe--beyond the shadow of a doubt-- that God loves you. All kinds of things come into play on our journey with God, with what I am guessing must be one of His prime goals for us, that is to be sure, no matter what befalls us, His eye is on us, and He loves us with an unfathomable Love.

I once came upon an interesting concept that was birthed in this head of mine some decades ago, and that is that in matters of romance, love and commitment,a mathematical principle applies. When one or both partners don't feel and believe that God's love for each one causes then to be whole (holy), then relationships of any kind may not work as well. It would be like trying and expecting to multiply factions, expecting a larger number, when in fact what we can get is something like this: 1/2 X 1/2 = 1/4. We are then left with a feeling of having less of ourselves for trying to make that happen. But when 2 people who both know God surely loves them come into relationship, the equation is 1 X 1 =1. So no matter what becomes of the relationship,...one partner suddenly falls from grace, or even dies, the other person, though grieved, still remains whole--in God's hands!

I hope this little bit of mathematical science may help you as you continue to live and love. It matters not what others or even we think of ourselves. It's what God thinks of us that is of absolute prime importance. And He said He loves us with an everlasting love. That's a good foundation for relationships. Rock solid!



[Edited 8/10/2010 12:46:00 PM ]

8/10/2010 9:50:07 PM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Sparkling beam ~ You are right about “God gives man and woman free will and God will not force His will or my will on anyone else. Also I should make sure my relationship lines up with the word of God. I have to admit, I’m not a strong Christians like most of you guys. I just recently went back to church early this year and been away for many years. I was lost for a long time and the reason why I posted a blog on this site is to hear other peoples opinion. I want to do the right thing. My heart says something but my mind and conscience says different. Just for the record, my best friend is not married, we are both single.
I want both of them to be happy, I wouldn’t wish bad things to others but I pray that hope God will send this lady another man instead of my best friend. She hurt him once and I hate to see him hurt again. And when my best friend told me that he is seeing this lady, I tried to stay away (Even though I was miserable and miss him a lot). He knows how I feel about him and we talked about everything (no secrets). That’s one thing great about our relationship is the trust and honesty we have for each other.

Inhisshoes ~ So far, our relationship is great and I don’t want to let it slip away.

Rcsyoungerdays ~ He knows how I feel about him and we talked about it. Like I said to Sparkling beam “One thing great about our relationship is the trust and honesty we have for each other“. He wants me to find someone to love that’s why he wrote the profile for me. He wants me to be happy too!

Walt_oftheearth ~ I do agree with you that as Jesus said, we are to ask and knock, and we shall receive, and it shall be opened to us. But in matters of the heart like this, we also understand that God respects free will. This doesn't mean that God may not impress and influence your friend to find within himself growing a tender seed/ sprout of love for you, yet the only part you play in this is being very sure that you believe--beyond the shadow of a doubt-- that God loves you. All kinds of things come into play on our journey with God, with what I am guessing must be one of His prime goals for us, that is to be sure, no matter what befalls us, His eye is on us, and He loves us with an unfathomable Love.

I once came upon an interesting concept that was birthed in this head of mine some decades ago, and that is that in matters of romance, love and commitment, a mathematical principle applies. When one or both partners don't feel and believe that God's love for each one causes then to be whole (holy), then relationships of any kind may not work as well. It would be like trying and expecting to multiply factions, expecting a larger number, when in fact what we can get is something like this: 1/2 X 1/2 = 1/4. We are then left with a feeling of having less of ourselves for trying to make that happen. But when 2 people who both know God surely loves them come into relationship, the equation is 1 X 1 =1. So no matter what becomes of the relationship,...one partner suddenly falls from grace, or even dies, the other person, though grieved, still remains whole--in God's hands!

I hope this little bit of mathematical science may help you as you continue to live and love. It matters not what others or even we think of ourselves. It's what God thinks of us that is of absolute prime importance. And He said He loves us with an everlasting love. That's a good foundation for relationships. Rock solid!

Thank you walt_oftheearth, rcsyoungerdays, inhisshoes, sparkling beam (Glynda) for your time, for sharing your opinions and experiences. It all makes sense now. All I need is a lot of prayers that my emotion will not get in the way and just trust God, make sure my relationship lines up with the word of God. Thanks again! God bless you all.

8/11/2010 8:11:49 PM San Jose, CA  

walt_oftheearth
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,889)
Avondale, AZ
60, joined Feb. 2008


I'm so glad you came to our little forum, Marie, and were able to gain so encouragement and hope! Ah, hope. None of us could survive it it weren't for that! Please do check back in with us and let us know how things are going! OK? God's Peace!

8/11/2010 9:30:10 PM San Jose, CA  

inhisshoes
Valley Park, MO
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8/12/2010 2:31:28 AM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Hi walt_oftheearth! So far we still email and chat online every night before going to bed. He lives in Indiana and I’m in California.

How did you do it? How did you move on? Do you still have feelings for them? Do you still have contact with those women? How long did it take to get over them? Did you avoid them? Too many questions huh? Sorry about that, I just want to know… Maybe I will learn something from you.

I want to keep our friendship. But it hurts!

Have a good night and thanks again! Take care and God bless.

8/12/2010 10:32:17 AM San Jose, CA  
carsonguy1951
Over 1,000 Posts (1,792)
Carson City, NV
64, joined Sep. 2008


Quote from mariel61:
Hi walt_oftheearth! So far we still email and chat online every night before going to bed. He lives in Indiana and I’m in California.

I want to keep our friendship. But it hurts!


I know this will sound trite or simplistic....but at some point, we stop banging our heads against a brick wall....realizing it doesn't hurt the wall and doesn't do too much good for our heads.

The worst thing about loving someone who will not love us back is the way it will keep us from actually looking for someone who will love us back.

8/12/2010 12:11:30 PM San Jose, CA  

inhisshoes
Valley Park, MO
45, joined Jun. 2010


Carsonguy1951,

8/12/2010 12:28:39 PM San Jose, CA  
latestflame
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (11,038)
Germantown, TN
38, joined Sep. 2009


God wouldn't have made it possible to be loved if he didn't want people to be loved. You're supposed to care more about showing it than getting it (which not many can do really), but I don't think there's anything wrong with asking that someone end up loving you back. Personally that's the main thing I want is to end up falling in love and it lasting. Which I guess it shouldn't be the main thing to want, but it's ok tow ant it.

8/12/2010 1:12:00 PM San Jose, CA  
booteez
Philadelphia, PA
52, joined Aug. 2010


I think we can ask Him for that if we want to. Whether or not He actually answers that I guess would be conditional. 1. Is this the right person He has for you to love this way. 2. Is it in the right timing for the relationship to blossom at this point.

8/12/2010 5:12:10 PM San Jose, CA  

walt_oftheearth
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,889)
Avondale, AZ
60, joined Feb. 2008


Quote from mariel61:
Hi walt_oftheearth! So far we still email and chat online every night before going to bed. He lives in Indiana and I’m in California.

How did you do it? How did you move on? Do you still have feelings for them? Do you still have contact with those women? How long did it take to get over them? Did you avoid them? Too many questions huh? Sorry about that, I just want to know… Maybe I will learn something from you.

I want to keep our friendship. But it hurts!

Have a good night and thanks again! Take care and God bless.


Well, first, I want to thank Carson for some pretty clear and very helpful advice in the preceding post. I'd add that the only way I can be receptive to attracting a loving partner into my life is, as I stated previously, to be very convinced and convicted over just how much God loves me. It stands to reason that if I know l am loved by God, this releases any burden upon another from feeling like they have to make up any deficit of Divine love. And God notices when we are in a love relationship with Him, and then opens the way for a person He has been preparing to meet us! This is the best of the best, when it comes to human man/ woman bonds and heart ties. He's the Master match maker.

Marie, you had asked how did I do it? How was I able to recover from experiences where my love was not reciprocated? For me, what this did was create a situation where God was able to really see the real and hurting person I was. I'm not saying that He didn't know me before, but these particular experiences brought about a such a genuine "gut-level" honesty and transparency, that "I knew that I knew that He knew me in a way I hadn't experienced before--and He holds our tears in a bottle, and sets to work to mature our ability to both be loved and to love back. And God does this in such a way that He is able keep our heads straight and hearts anchored in Him. He is to be worshiped and adored FIRST and foremost. Then, our love for a mate, partner, boyfriend, girlfriend, spouse is sanctified, purified and genuine. We truly are then able to express philos and agape love; not just eros. The best love is always seeking the best for the other, in everything from family relationships, career, to physical intimacy. It is a love that overflows. I know this sounds maybe idealistic, and it is not easily attained. It just comes about through experiences such as you are experiencing. We learn to love by personal experience. We try and fail, sometimes many times, but in the end, we are delightfully surprised and rewarded by God when one day, we turn a corner, and there that person is!! We become surprised by joy, with thankfulness.

Take good courage. "In all thy ways, acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths."

8/12/2010 6:17:02 PM San Jose, CA  

casheyesblond
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (17,210)
Belmont, NC
51, joined Feb. 2009


hey there mariel61
First off,I want to mention that while reading your opening post and your responses back to other posters,I have concluded that you are one of the lucky ones...for indeed,you have not allowed this life to make you grow numb--you have a heart full of passion and love imo--a heart that you were able to show to another even if it left you feeling exposed,vulnerable at times for indeed it is when one is most open to love and all the possibilities that it brings--this one is someone that can still *feel*

As for wanting responses from other Christians,I do go to church,read my bible and attend a weekly bible study but I am not here to quote ya scripture but instead,I'm gonna talk to you woman to woman.

Your friend knows how deep your feeling run and from your words written,your heart can not deny your love for this one.--yes your friend knows.

He knows that you love him and you have been an incredible friend to him--possibly been that friend that helped him get through some rough patches and he cares for you and he wishes only the best for you imo.

But woman to woman--I must say,I believe that you are in the "friend zone" ...it's a good place to be but at the same time,a difficult place to be when the feelings you have run so deep.


Think for a moment about what you may have read in the bible about G-d's love and marriage covenant with Israel...what imo appeared to be a one-sided love,still yet G-d kept loving just the same while allowing love to have freedom to choose--not something that one takes ownership of.

As I posted elsewhere,
I don't see love as something I can choose and/or take any type of ownership of.

If love was something one could take ownership of then one could choose/control when love comes their way and also be able to keep love from ever walking away.But instead, love has the freedom to come rushing in without even asking permission to enter. Love and/is freedom....simultaneously holding one captive without ever feeling like it ties one down.
-------------------------------
What I'm trying to say is,ya can't make a heart feel something it don't--and I don't think G-d intervenes in the way you had asked in your opening post--if he was someone that makes a heart feel something it don't then possibly his marriage covenant would not have been so one-sided imo--in other words,there would not have been the worshiping of other idols going on,temple prostitutes and so on going on during those biblical times I mention but instead,the love would have been returned if indeed one could take ownership of love.

In summary,
I think your'e in the " friend zone " and the saying," He's just not into you " applies in the sense that he is not into you more than a friend imo--but again,imo I also believe he cares for you and treasures the friendship you bring.


Now here's the good part:
G-d may indeed answer your prayer by giving you an unanswered prayer.Just something to think about--by being able to release your heart to know love again,this opens things up in such a way that love and all it's possibilities await for a heart like yours--a heart filled with love and passion--a heart that can still *feel*



[Edited 8/12/2010 6:21:49 PM ]

8/12/2010 8:52:54 PM San Jose, CA  

brashdoc
Over 2,000 Posts (2,850)
Chehalis, WA
62, joined Aug. 2008


Praying for you Mariel! So glad you posted & your honesty & availing yourself of the body of Christ. We are here to help & support one another & in the midst of the struggles, we grow in Christ, as we cast our burdens on Him. He truly cares! And we care! I see you growing in Him as a result.

Wooooooooooooooooooo Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Doc

8/12/2010 9:02:43 PM San Jose, CA  
blessedladycj7
Wayne, NJ
57, joined Nov. 2008


marie 61 i believe in the word GOD has given us freewill...and if we were to ask GOD to make someone love us ,,that would be considered witch craft as he would not force anyone to LOVE him,,,but in all love to u,,,i would ask GOD for his will on who he chooses mfor u ,,and then u will know GOD choose him SPECIAL FOR HIS DAUGHTER,,and didnt make anyone force to love,,but was head over heels in love because your spirit!...lead them to u...god bless u my dear...god has someone very specqail for u...just for u!..i promise he is not a man that should lie,,,and he says its not good for man to be alone,,,so there it is,,,his words...god bless!

8/12/2010 9:29:14 PM San Jose, CA  
carsonguy1951
Over 1,000 Posts (1,792)
Carson City, NV
64, joined Sep. 2008


Quote from blessedladycj7:
...and if we were to ask GOD to make someone love us ,,that would be considered witch craft as he would not force anyone to LOVE him,,,


I would disagree. Witchcraft is not anywhere even close to asking God to to do something.... even if we were a bit misguided and wanted God to force someone to do something......such a request is not witchcraft.

Witchcraft is attempting to use a person's effort to produce spells or incantations or magic to alter nature in some way.....as if the spell, incantation or magic has power in itself.

God being all powerful is of course, not affected by smoke, mirrors, incantations or the proper mixing of some eye of newt....

8/12/2010 10:44:11 PM San Jose, CA  
blessedladycj7
Wayne, NJ
57, joined Nov. 2008


its called manupulation..go reasearch it...you cant ask GOD to make someone love u....go check it out....its witchcraft,,,,the truth sets u free

8/12/2010 11:02:01 PM San Jose, CA  
blessedladycj7
Wayne, NJ
57, joined Nov. 2008


witchcraft-manipulation is all the same..
.I would disagree. Witchcraft is not anywhere even close to asking God to to do something.... even if we were a bit misguided and wanted God to force someone to do something......such a request is not witchcraft....carson,,,GOD would not make anyone do anything over his own will....so yes in gods eyes,,,it is...

8/12/2010 11:52:19 PM San Jose, CA  
carsonguy1951
Over 1,000 Posts (1,792)
Carson City, NV
64, joined Sep. 2008


My point is simply that asking God to do something is not witchcraft...it is simply asking God to do something He is unlikely to do.

Conjuring up natures forces is witchcraft.

However, God does, on occasion, make people do things. The Exodus is one very clear example of God directly working on someone....in this case Pharaoh's heart was directly and intentionally hardened by God.

Exodus 4:21 (King James Version)

21And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.

Ex 10:20 NAS

"But (the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not let the sons of Israel go."

Ex 10:27 NAS

"But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he was not willing to let them go. "

Ex 11:9-10 NAS

"9Then the LORD said to Moses, "(Pharaoh will not listen to you, so that My wonders will be multiplied in the land of Egypt."

10Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh; yet the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not let the sons of Israel go out of his land.

Ex 12:36 NAS

"36and the LORD had given the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they let them have their request. Thus they plundered the Egyptians. "



[Edited 8/12/2010 11:54:46 PM ]

8/12/2010 11:57:42 PM San Jose, CA  
blessedladycj7
Wayne, NJ
57, joined Nov. 2008


i didnt say asking god to do something...it was one particular thing asking to go against someones will to make that person love the other,,,yes sir it is,,,,how would u feel if u were forced to marry someone u didnt love,,,i dont think that would be ethical..god is pur and holy,,,he wont press someone to do anything they choose not to....

8/13/2010 12:09:05 AM San Jose, CA  
carsonguy1951
Over 1,000 Posts (1,792)
Carson City, NV
64, joined Sep. 2008


God is very unlikely to make anyone love someone else....as I have said repeatedly from the start.

But simply asking God to do something He is very unlikely to do is not witchcraft. And telling a dear sweet Christian gal that she is practicing witchcraft is just heartless and cruel....besides being wrong.

Witches don't even believe in the one true God to ask Him. They conjure the spirits of nature...the masculine and feminine....and all of that.

8/13/2010 12:49:09 AM San Jose, CA  
blessedladycj7
Wayne, NJ
57, joined Nov. 2008


im sure u dont have the holyspirit they way ypou disern is not wisdom...i didnt say asking god forsomething is WITCH CRAFT,,,,,,BUT MR KNOW IT ALL...GO DO RESEARCH!!!!!...AND FIND OUT IF GOD WOULD MAKE SOMEONE LOVE SOME ONE TO MARRY THEM,,,IS TO ALTER SOMEONES MIND .....HELLLLO....GROW UP MAN!

God is very unlikely to make anyone love someone else....as I have said repeatedly from the start.

But simply asking God to do something He is very unlikely to do is not witchcraft. And telling a dear sweet Christian gal that she is practicing witchcraft is just heartless and cruel....besides being wrong.

Witches don't even believe in the one true God to ask Him. They conjure the spirits of nature...the masculine and feminine....and all of that.

8/13/2010 1:00:14 AM San Jose, CA  
blessedladycj7
Wayne, NJ
57, joined Nov. 2008


AND I AM NOT HEARTLESS AND CRUEL MR CARSON GUY...IM REAL...AND I SPEAK THE TRUTH,,THEY HATED JESUS......for the same thing,,,beacuse he spoke truth....didnt sugar coat anything,,,told it how it is.....so i dont feel so bad im just like him!

8/13/2010 5:58:54 AM San Jose, CA  
in_gods_service
Sugar Grove, VA
62, joined Jul. 2010


Quote from blessedladycj7:
AND I AM NOT HEARTLESS AND CRUEL MR CARSON GUY...IM REAL...AND I SPEAK THE TRUTH,,THEY HATED JESUS......for the same thing,,,beacuse he spoke truth....didnt sugar coat anything,,,told it how it is.....so i dont feel so bad im just like him!


None of us are JUST LIKE HIM. We are sinners saved by grace. He was and is sinless.

8/13/2010 10:37:00 AM San Jose, CA  

skippylee
Thayer, KS
42, joined Jul. 2009


set the lad free and be patient--------if you love someone set them free to maake their own descisions

8/13/2010 12:41:12 PM San Jose, CA  
blessedladycj7
Wayne, NJ
57, joined Nov. 2008


gods service...yes i am like him as far as being not liked for the truth ...i am a immator of him!..the bible says to immitate him

8/13/2010 11:51:02 PM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from carsonguy1951:
I know this will sound trite or simplistic....but at some point, we stop banging our heads against a brick wall....realizing it doesn't hurt the wall and doesn't do too much good for our heads.

The worst thing about loving someone who will not love us back is the way it will keep us from actually looking for someone who will love us back.

carsonguy1951 ~ I think you’re right, thanks for opening my eyes.

8/14/2010 12:40:25 AM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from latestflame:
God wouldn't have made it possible to be loved if he didn't want people to be loved. You're supposed to care more about showing it than getting it (which not many can do really), but I don't think there's anything wrong with asking that someone end up loving you back. Personally that's the main thing I want is to end up falling in love and it lasting. Which I guess it shouldn't be the main thing to want, but it's ok tow ant it.


inhisshoes ~ Hello!

latestflame ~ Thank you for your response, it’s nice to hear your opinion.

8/14/2010 7:20:57 AM San Jose, CA  

inhisshoes
Valley Park, MO
45, joined Jun. 2010


Mariel61, HI I'm Praying all is going well with you and wanted to say something a little off topic. It's about Love, just not asking God to make someone love me back. It's about your Love! I'm a little nervous today about an adventure I'm taking. I know, I'm turning it over to God, but I am human afterall. My point is, when I came here, to your thread, this morning reading up-dates......there you where. All you said to me was, "InHisshoes, Hello!". Girl, that made me feel so good. You took time to type my name, even though I have not been consistently posting, and tell me hello. I know people don't always have a lot of time, but I sure did appreciate that and I just wanted you to know...........

8/14/2010 8:44:20 AM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from inhisshoes:
Mariel61, HI I'm Praying all is going well with you and wanted to say something a little off topic. It's about Love, just not asking God to make someone love me back. It's about your Love! I'm a little nervous today about an adventure I'm taking. I know, I'm turning it over to God, but I am human afterall. My point is, when I came here, to your thread, this morning reading up-dates......there you where. All you said to me was, "InHisshoes, Hello!". Girl, that made me feel so good. You took time to type my name, even though I have not been consistently posting, and tell me hello. I know people don't always have a lot of time, but I sure did appreciate that and I just wanted you to know...........


Good morning! InHisshoes
Thank you very much for praying for me. Before I signed on to check my messages I prayed that God will lead me the way and just help me deal with my situation. Then, there you are I’m glad that I made you feel good! I hope and pray that the Adventure you’re going to will be an adventurous and fun! That God will be with you and keep you safe. I really appreciate everybody’s time in responding to my question and also for the prayers. I want to reply to each and everyone but I’m not really good in writing and my English is not that good and I’m so overwhelmed with all this opinions, comment, responses (don’t know what to call it) and don’t know where to start?

Just a little UPDATE:

Last night I finally let go of my best friend. I told him that "If he's happy with this lady, then I'm happy for him". I wish him the best and I pray that if it's God's will for him to be with her that God's will be done! He's a wonderful man and he deserve to be happy!

After reading everybody's comment, point of view, responses to my questions and prayers... I made my decision to just let the Lord GOD lead the way.

At first, part of me wants to be persistent, in pursuing this LOVE that I feel for my friend, keeping my HOPE that someday he will learn to feel the same way about me. I BELIEVE, TRUST, HAVE FAITH IN GOD that if I hang on and be patient (eventually GOD will answer my prayers). But I realized, I should put God first in my life and everything that I do. Have a better relationship with the LORD before I can have a relationship with others.

My friend will always have a special place in my heart and we will remain "Just Friends".
It's hard but someone says "IF YOU LOVE SOMEBODY, YOU HAVE TO LET HIM GO... IF THAT PERSON IS FOR ME... HE WILL COME BACK TO ME".

I’m so glad to hear from you again. Take care and God bless.

8/14/2010 9:30:27 AM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from booteez:
I think we can ask Him for that if we want to. Whether or not He actually answers that I guess would be conditional. 1. Is this the right person He has for you to love this way. 2. Is it in the right timing for the relationship to blossom at this point.

booteez ~ You have a point there too! I think my mistake is that I didn’t even ask God if this is the right person for me? Or Is this the right timing for the relationship to blossom at this point. Also, I should just let God take care of it and trust him. If it’s for me, that’s great but if it’s not that’s okay too because… I’m sure God has something planned for me. Thanks Booteez


walt_oftheearth ~ I’m speechless… thank you very much for answering my questions. You guys write so well! I don’t know what to say?


casheyesblond ~ “hey there mariel61
First off,I want to mention that while reading your opening post and your responses back to other posters,I have concluded that you are one of the lucky ones...for indeed,you have not allowed this life to make you grow numb--you have a heart full of passion and love imo--a heart that you were able to show to another even if it left you feeling exposed,vulnerable at times for indeed it is when one is most open to love and all the possibilities that it brings--this one is someone that can still *feel*

As for wanting responses from other Christians,I do go to church,read my bible and attend a weekly bible study but I am not here to quote ya scripture but instead,I'm gonna talk to you woman to woman.

Your friend knows how deep your feeling run and from your words written,your heart can not deny your love for this one.--yes your friend knows.

He knows that you love him and you have been an incredible friend to him--possibly been that friend that helped him get through some rough patches and he cares for you and he wishes only the best for you imo.

But woman to woman--I must say,I believe that you are in the "friend zone" ...it's a good place to be but at the same time,a difficult place to be when the feelings you have run so deep.


Think for a moment about what you may have read in the bible about G-d's love and marriage covenant with Israel...what imo appeared to be a one-sided love,still yet G-d kept loving just the same while allowing love to have freedom to choose--not something that one takes ownership of.

As I posted elsewhere,
I don't see love as something I can choose and/or take any type of ownership of.

If love was something one could take ownership of then one could choose/control when love comes their way and also be able to keep love from ever walking away.But instead, love has the freedom to come rushing in without even asking permission to enter. Love and/is freedom....simultaneously holding one captive without ever feeling like it ties one down.
-------------------------------
What I'm trying to say is,ya can't make a heart feel something it don't--and I don't think G-d intervenes in the way you had asked in your opening post--if he was someone that makes a heart feel something it don't then possibly his marriage covenant would not have been so one-sided imo--in other words,there would not have been the worshiping of other idols going on,temple prostitutes and so on going on during those biblical times I mention but instead,the love would have been returned if indeed one could take ownership of love.

In summary,
I think your'e in the " friend zone " and the saying," He's just not into you " applies in the sense that he is not into you more than a friend imo--but again,imo I also believe he cares for you and treasures the friendship you bring.


Now here's the good part:
G-d may indeed answer your prayer by giving you an unanswered prayer.Just something to think about--by being able to release your heart to know love again,this opens things up in such a way that love and all it's possibilities await for a heart like yours--a heart filled with love and passion--a heart that can still *feel*"


[Edited 8/12/2010 4:21:49 PM ]

I just want to say thank you for taking you time to share your thoughts and opinion. Very much appreciated.


brashdoc ~ Thanks Doc!

8/16/2010 2:39:49 PM San Jose, CA  

walt_oftheearth
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,889)
Avondale, AZ
60, joined Feb. 2008


These words about love, I feel are very true:

"Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection;
neither be cynical about love,
For, in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is perennial as the grass."

-- Max Ehrmann, from Desiderata

8/16/2010 11:42:51 PM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from walt_oftheearth:
These words about love, I feel are very true:

"Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection;
neither be cynical about love,
For, in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is perennial as the grass."

-- Max Ehrmann, from Desiderata


Thanks Walt! Those are BIG WORDS I have to look them up...
1) Feign - pretend
2) Cynical - pessimistic - negative
3) Aridity - dryness
4) Disenchantment - disillusionment
5) Perennial - recurrent, recurring, chronic, constant, steady, stable

This is my interpretation:

"Be yourself.
Especially, do not pretend affection;
neither be negative about love,
For, in the face of all dryness and disillusionment,
it is stable as the grass."

Is that right? I don't understand the part were it says "For, in the face of all dryness and disillusionment, it is stable as the grass." I just didn't understand it... please explain. Thank you!

8/16/2010 11:58:43 PM San Jose, CA  

walt_oftheearth
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,889)
Avondale, AZ
60, joined Feb. 2008


Quote from mariel61:
Thanks Walt! Those are BIG WORDS I have to look them up...
1) Feign - pretend
2) Cynical - pessimistic - negative
3) Aridity - dryness
4) Disenchantment - disillusionment
5) Perennial - recurrent, recurring, chronic, constant, steady, stable

This is my interpretation:

"Be yourself.
Especially, do not pretend affection;
neither be negative about love,
For, in the face of all dryness and disillusionment,
it is stable as the grass."

Is that right? I don't understand the part were it says "For, in the face of all dryness and disillusionment, it is stable as the grass." I just didn't understand it... please explain. Thank you!


Well, in some parts of the world, grass dies off and becomes brown looking/ dormant. But then another season comes around and the grass is green again. I think this was what the author meant. As it is written in Ecclesiastes, There is a time and a season for everything under the sun. We think so much depends on us, when no; in actuality, God has it all planned out, and we may even find, that in matters of the heart, we will be surprised by joy.

8/17/2010 12:40:29 AM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from walt_oftheearth:
Well, in some parts of the world, grass dies off and becomes brown looking/ dormant. But then another season comes around and the grass is green again. I think this was what the author meant. As it is written in Ecclesiastes, There is a time and a season for everything under the sun. We think so much depends on us, when no; in actuality, God has it all planned out, and we may even find, that in matters of the heart, we will be surprised by joy.


Walt,

Thank for explaining that to me. I feel kind of dumb that I don't understand it. But if I don't ask, then I won't find out. I learned something new. Have a good night and take care.

Maria

8/17/2010 2:25:32 AM San Jose, CA  
detluvr
Roseville, MI
46, joined Jul. 2010


All things are possible!!! Ph.4:13

8/17/2010 3:49:14 AM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from detluvr:
All things are possible!!! Ph.4:13


Detluvr

8/17/2010 8:45:55 AM San Jose, CA  

inhisshoes
Valley Park, MO
45, joined Jun. 2010


Mariel61 "Good morning! InHisshoes
Thank you very much for praying for me. Before I signed on to check my messages I prayed that God will lead me the way and just help me deal with my situation. Then, there you are I’m glad that I made you feel good! I hope and pray that the Adventure you’re going to will be an adventurous and fun! That God will be with you and keep you safe. I really appreciate everybody’s time in responding to my question and also for the prayers. I want to reply to each and everyone but I’m not really good in writing and my English is not that good and I’m so overwhelmed with all this opinions, comment, responses (don’t know what to call it) and don’t know where to start?"



Hi Mariel61, Thank you for saying prayers for me! Very much appreciated and..................I think your doing a wonderful job at writing back and keeping people in the loop/updated Keep it up!
I also read your comment about feeling stupid sometimes, but if you don't ask you'll never learn....... I completely agree. I have said that myself I think ignorance comes into play when you don't ask and if someone is gonna give you greif about asking, OH WELL... Anyhow, your a neat gal and I'll see ya in the forums



p.s. I like your new photo



[Edited 8/17/2010 8:46:25 AM ]

8/17/2010 5:18:01 PM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Thanks Shannon!

Have a great week...

Maria aka Mariel61

8/19/2010 4:37:06 PM San Jose, CA  

inhisshoes
Valley Park, MO
45, joined Jun. 2010


You too

8/27/2010 8:08:15 AM San Jose, CA  
icuddle
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (17,624)
Salem, OR
63, joined Dec. 2009


The promise is that what we ask for in the name of Jesus, we will recieve. To ask for something in the name of Jesus is NOT to simply tack the words "In Jesus' name, I ask..." onto your prayers; as many members of many churches do. It is to ask for what Jesus would ask for, as he would ask for it.

Think of ordering a pizza. If I send you to the pizza parlour to get me a Pizza, you SHOULD order the kind I would order if I were there ordering it. If I love Pepperoni, and hate beef, you'd better not order a beef pizza for me...especially not if I have given you the money to pay for the pizza with. If you walk into the pizza joint, and order me a small beef, pizza, when I want a large pepperoni pizza, you may use my money to pay for it, but you are not ordering it in my name as you are not ordering what I would order.

Would Jesus 'make' someone love Him...force someone to love Him; against their will? No way. As such, you can NOT ask God to force someone to love you, and be asking it as Jesus would ask for it, so you are NOT asking that "in Jesus' name".

Take the view that:"Lord, this is my will...what I want. If it also be your will, then let it be. If it is not your will, help me to accept it's not happening. In any event, let your will be done."

It is possible that God wants you to be with the man you mention, and will work things out so that it happens. It is more likely that such is not the case. Keep an open mind, and pray for God's will to be done, and see what happens.

God wants you to find love...but perhaps with the man you now desire...and perhaps not with him but with someone else. Trust God to know what is best for you. Do not pass up another man God brings into your life as an ideal mate because you are so fixated on the other guy that you don't recognize the one God offered you.

8/28/2010 5:34:34 AM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from icuddle:
The promise is that what we ask for in the name of Jesus, we will recieve. To ask for something in the name of Jesus is NOT to simply tack the words "In Jesus' name, I ask..." onto your prayers; as many members of many churches do. It is to ask for what Jesus would ask for, as he would ask for it.

Think of ordering a pizza. If I send you to the pizza parlour to get me a Pizza, you SHOULD order the kind I would order if I were there ordering it. If I love Pepperoni, and hate beef, you'd better not order a beef pizza for me...especially not if I have given you the money to pay for the pizza with. If you walk into the pizza joint, and order me a small beef, pizza, when I want a large pepperoni pizza, you may use my money to pay for it, but you are not ordering it in my name as you are not ordering what I would order.

Would Jesus 'make' someone love Him...force someone to love Him; against their will? No way. As such, you can NOT ask God to force someone to love you, and be asking it as Jesus would ask for it, so you are NOT asking that "in Jesus' name".

Take the view that:"Lord, this is my will...what I want. If it also be your will, then let it be. If it is not your will, help me to accept it's not happening. In any event, let your will be done."

It is possible that God wants you to be with the man you mention, and will work things out so that it happens. It is more likely that such is not the case. Keep an open mind, and pray for God's will to be done, and see what happens.

God wants you to find love...but perhaps with the man you now desire...and perhaps not with him but with someone else. Trust God to know what is best for you. Do not pass up another man God brings into your life as an ideal mate because you are so fixated on the other guy that you don't recognize the one God offered you.


Thank you very much "Icuddle"... I think you do have a point and after reading everybody's opinion and comments, I realized that I should pray for God’s will to be done. Trust God with all my heart… He knows what is best for me. I just have to be patient.

To be honest with you, it’s hard for me to move on but I know… with God’s help, things will be okay.
One day at the time. I also realized that I should work on my relationship with the Lord before anything else.

Thanks again! God bless…

8/28/2010 10:04:29 AM San Jose, CA  
denise97420
Coos Bay, OR
62, joined Aug. 2010


We can ask anything of God. He hears our prayers. I try to remember though, to add in "His Will be done". Because His Will may not be mine. And in my experience with relationships and just life period, is that I don't know what is best for me, but He does. So His answers to our prayers might be yes, might be no, or it might be wait. God looks at our hearts. He knows how you feel. Denise



I need to start reading the Word more and want to share the verses here for anyone wanting to read also. So I'll just do the one thread rather than make a new topic each day

Today the verses I read are below. When I first read them and went through them many times over the years, I learned something more I think, each time. I remember hearing someone say(and I thought they made a very good point)that when Jesus wrote in the sand, He was writing the sins of the Pharisees that wanted to stone the woman. I have thought about this a lot and usually pray before I read the Word. Asking the Holy Spirit to interpret for me. Also after He had written, He also knew the writing would be blown away. I don't think that He wanted anyone to see except the sinners themselves. To me this once again shows the great love God has for all people and longs for us to turn to Him. I could be wrong about the way I see these scriptures. And the person that told me their take on them. What do you think? I love to hear how others see the Word of God. Sometimes it astounds me how others see it but yet there is a reason people disagree on the Word sometimes and if God is in control of it all then His Will not mine, be done

God bless your day


8/29/2010 4:36:53 AM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from denise97420:
We can ask anything of God. He hears our prayers. I try to remember though, to add in "His Will be done". Because His Will may not be mine. And in my experience with relationships and just life period, is that I don't know what is best for me, but He does. So His answers to our prayers might be yes, might be no, or it might be wait. God looks at our hearts. He knows how you feel. Denise



I need to start reading the Word more and want to share the verses here for anyone wanting to read also. So I'll just do the one thread rather than make a new topic each day

Today the verses I read are below. When I first read them and went through them many times over the years, I learned something more I think, each time. I remember hearing someone say(and I thought they made a very good point)that when Jesus wrote in the sand, He was writing the sins of the Pharisees that wanted to stone the woman. I have thought about this a lot and usually pray before I read the Word. Asking the Holy Spirit to interpret for me. Also after He had written, He also knew the writing would be blown away. I don't think that He wanted anyone to see except the sinners themselves. To me this once again shows the great love God has for all people and longs for us to turn to Him. I could be wrong about the way I see these scriptures. And the person that told me their take on them. What do you think? I love to hear how others see the Word of God. Sometimes it astounds me how others see it but yet there is a reason people disagree on the Word sometimes and if God is in control of it all then His Will not mine, be done

God bless your day


Thanks Denise for sharing your thoughts.
Also about the thread that you posted... Sometimes when I read a verse or two in the bible, I too learned something more. There are times I could be reading the same verse that I read a week ago but every time I read it interprets different meaning depending on the situation. It’s amazing! Maybe that’s how God communicates with me? I don’t know? I’m still learning and growing as a Christian. Have a great day!

8/29/2010 1:06:53 PM San Jose, CA  

inhisshoes
Valley Park, MO
45, joined Jun. 2010


Mariel61, Just wanted to drop in to say Hi and see how things have been going

8/29/2010 5:28:46 PM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from inhisshoes:
Mariel61, Just wanted to drop in to say Hi and see how things have been going


Hi Shannon! Thanks for stopping by to say hi. I'm hanging there, just living one day at a time.

It's been 21 days since I last communicated with my best friend and it was hard. I’m so tempted to pickup the phone and talk to him but I know I have to let go.

I pray that God’s will be done in my life and that God will help me do the right thing.

How about you? How are you doing? Hope you’re doing well. It’s nice to hear from you again.

Take care and have a great weekend! God bless…
Maria

8/30/2010 7:39:32 AM San Jose, CA  

inhisshoes
Valley Park, MO
45, joined Jun. 2010


Mariel, I am so proud of you! Keep seeking Gods will Sis His light is for sure shining bright through you. I'm doing pretty well, thanks for asking Have some downs, but the ups make it all worth it ya know? I am talking with someone right now that I happen to be very fond of...I'll see where God takes it and go from there. The worst that could happen is I'll gain a great friend so, kind of a win-win. Take care and I'll be checking in with you off and on. Keep smiling.....You wear it well!

8/30/2010 10:32:46 PM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from inhisshoes:
Mariel, I am so proud of you! Keep seeking Gods will Sis His light is for sure shining bright through you. I'm doing pretty well, thanks for asking Have some downs, but the ups make it all worth it ya know? I am talking with someone right now that I happen to be very fond of...I'll see where God takes it and go from there. The worst that could happen is I'll gain a great friend so, kind of a win-win. Take care and I'll be checking in with you off and on. Keep smiling.....You wear it well!


Hi Shannon,

I’m so happy that you found a new friend. Good luck to both of you.

Oh, by the way I want to make a correction on my previous statement. I said “It's been 21 days since I last communicated with my best friend and it was hard. I’m so tempted to pickup the phone and talk to him but I know I have to let go”. It was actually only 11 days (feels like 21 days to me).

Last night he caught me online and he sent me an IM message. I felt sick to my stomach, I didn’t know if I should respond back or not? Then I felt bad, didn’t think it's right to ignore him.

We chat for a while. He is definitely crazy about this woman. He told me that he was sorry for hurting my feelings. He doesn’t know what to do? I don’t know what to do either? Lose a friend or keep the friendship. Either way it hurts! It's a win-win situation.

It hurts so bad… can’t think straight. Even though I prayed that may God’s will be done. The pain is still there. Thanks for checking up on me and for being a friend.

Take care and have a great week! Catch you later...
Maria

9/2/2010 7:57:42 AM San Jose, CA  

inhisshoes
Valley Park, MO
45, joined Jun. 2010


Mariel, Hello. I know where you are coming from, being confused on what to do with your friendship. I had a best friend once who was a guy and I lost Him because I did have strong feelings for him, but he did not for me. It wasn't his decision for us to part though. Unfortunatly, I was so crazed by the situation of him finding a girl, it became really unhealthy for me and him. I knew I had to remove myself from the situation because I had gone to far and couldn't pull back my feelings I sure hope your friendship with him does not hold the same fate, but you really need to stand out of the situation and look at it from a whole picture view. Can you pull your feelings back to friendship love or not? I know it's hard hun and I pray for you everyday about it, that you can find a peace you so desperatly seek, and live your life with no regrets. What I have learned about you/your heart so far, he would be lucky to have someone like you and I'm sure he doesn't want to loose you, but what's the best thing for you and him individually?
Keep me posted girl and keep walking in love and honesty. It's part of who you are and I hope that never changes..........Sincerely, Shannon

9/16/2010 10:31:48 PM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from inhisshoes:
Mariel, Hello. I know where you are coming from, being confused on what to do with your friendship. I had a best friend once who was a guy and I lost Him because I did have strong feelings for him, but he did not for me. It wasn't his decision for us to part though. Unfortunatly, I was so crazed by the situation of him finding a girl, it became really unhealthy for me and him. I knew I had to remove myself from the situation because I had gone to far and couldn't pull back my feelings I sure hope your friendship with him does not hold the same fate, but you really need to stand out of the situation and look at it from a whole picture view. Can you pull your feelings back to friendship love or not? I know it's hard hun and I pray for you everyday about it, that you can find a peace you so desperatly seek, and live your life with no regrets. What I have learned about you/your heart so far, he would be lucky to have someone like you and I'm sure he doesn't want to loose you, but what's the best thing for you and him individually?
Keep me posted girl and keep walking in love and honesty. It's part of who you are and I hope that never changes..........Sincerely, Shannon

Hi Shannon,

You asked me “Can you pull your feelings back to friendship love or not?” My answer is I don’t know? Right now, I still can’t get him off my mind. He’s there 24/7 in my head (which is not good and very unhealthy for me).

However, it says on Matthew 7:7-8 Ask, and you will be given what you ask for. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened. 8) For everyone who asks, receives. Anyone who seeks, finds. If only you will knock, the door will open.

Luke 11:9-10 And so it is with prayer - keep on asking and you will keep on getting; keep on looking and you will keep on finding; knock and the door will be opened. 10) Everyone who asks, receives; all who seek, find; and the door is opened to everyone who knocks.

John 14:14 Yes, ask anything, using my name, and I will do it!

Isaiah 65:24 I will answer them before they even call to me. While they are still talking to me about their needs, I will go ahead and answer their prayers!

Part of me wants to keep my “HOPES” up because it says so in the bible. The above scriptures are only few of the ones I have on top of my head. And I do believe that if I pray God will answer. Maybe I just have to be more patient? I don’t really know… but I don’t want to give up.

Also it says on 1 Corinthians 13:7 Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.

Living Bible Version ~ 1 Corinthians 13:7
If you love someone you will be loyal to him no matter what the cost. You will always believe in him, always expect the best of him, and always stand your ground in defending him.

For me this scriptures says “DON’T GIVE UP”… there’s still “HOPE”…

Since the August 30th, we chat on line pretty much every night and also talked on the phone. He also, exchange email and communicate with this lady that he’s interested with on a regular basis. To get to know her more. I admit that it hurts me but there’s really nothing I can do but pray. I still love him and he knows that. I don’t want to loose his friendship and I don’t want to give up hope either. Sounds CRAZY… I know, but I can’t help it. He’s my best friend and a wonderful person. I hope and pray that if it’s God’s will for this woman to be his wife. That he will be happy and I wish him the best.
Thanks for being a friend. Hope everything is well with you and your new friend. Take care… your friend in California, Maria

9/17/2010 10:59:01 PM San Jose, CA  
snakepond
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Hello Miriah I have been in your shoes before with a fellow church member. Just about went crazy. A friend ask me one time if you were not confused what would you do? Also in matters of the heart read 1John 4:18. I am praying for you!

9/17/2010 11:34:12 PM San Jose, CA  

mariel61
San Jose, CA
53, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from snakepond:
Hello Miriah I have been in your shoes before with a fellow church member. Just about went crazy. A friend ask me one time if you were not confused what would you do? Also in matters of the heart read 1John 4:18. I am praying for you!

Thanks snakepond! I can sure use a lot of prayers. I thought I was crazy for feeling this way. I didn't know that other people have been through what I'm going through right now. It hurts so much I don't know what's worst, loosing him completely or keep the friendship while my heart is bleeding. It's like a slow death

Oh by the way, I read 1 John 4:18 We need have no fear of someone who loves us perfectly; his perfect love for us eliminates all dread of what he might do to us. If we are afraid, it is for fear of what he might do to us, and shows that we are not fully convinced that he really loves us. I don't get it??? I don't understand it???

9/18/2010 2:01:04 AM San Jose, CA  
snakepond
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Read it again. Perfect love hath no fear; because fear hath torment. Sweet heart are you not tormented?? If God is in this thing and you are meant for this man than I truly believe that you would become more than friends. Stop and think this over. There are only two reasons why a man would constantly talk to you when he knows you are that interested. 1 He is also with you. He has said he isn't. 2 He is on an ego trip. Take it he may not admit but he is any way or he knows it and that is the worst part. God is not the author of confussion. Remember Garth Brook's song unanwered prayers. There comes a time you have to stop and let God anwer your prayers but no is an answer also.



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