Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?

7/24/2008 6:02:17 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	I'm a Christian myself, but I've noticed a lot of LIES that come from preachers, and then people in the congregation. I was hoping that someone could shed some light on a few things. "Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar." Proverbs 30:6 1. Where in the Bible does it say that "shacking up" is a sin? 2. Where does the Bible condemn sex before marriage? 3. Where does it say that masturbation is a sin? If I recall, in Genesis 1:28, before God ever introduces Himself in the Bible. Before He names Adam or Eve, God's FIRST words, were "be fruitful and multiply." God told us to have sex!!! I'm just curious as to how some Bible toting Christians can make up stuff and add it to the Bible. Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
7/24/2008 6:32:01 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
knightnyte2 Spring, TX age: 58	well, you quoted a little bit of scripture, perhaps you might look it up a bit yourself in your Bible. here's a link to make it easy for you. http://blueletterbible.org/
7/24/2008 6:55:45 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
stringsvrs Syracuse, NY age: 54	Young Sister Monica monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 20 I'm a Christian myself, but I've noticed a lot of LIES that come from preachers, and then people in the congregation. I was hoping that someone could shed some light on a few things. "Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar." Proverbs 30:6 1. Where in the Bible does it say that "shacking up" is a sin? 2. Where does the Bible condemn sex before marriage? 3. Where does it say that masturbation is a sin? If I recall, in Genesis 1:28, before God ever introduces Himself in the Bible. Before He names Adam or Eve, God's FIRST words, were "be fruitful and multiply." God told us to have sex!!! I'm just curious as to how some Bible toting Christians can make up stuff and add it to the Bible. Hon, you are certainly on the correct path in your questioning. You have found your first positive insight to self-awareness also. The scripture you speak is the 1st Commandment to Mankind, which is the 11th Creative Commandment. There is no harm in your sexuality and experimenting in it What is incorrect is if you are purposely injuring another's feelings in the process of the Actions. By this I infer that if your partner does not wish to end the affair and does not let go willingly emotionally; It may create undue hardships for the two of you. It is the same perspective for attempting to have an encounter with an individual already in a relationship as well. These are additions later brought forth by Moses and further updated by Jesus. Communication between partners, with honesty is the best insurance in the circumstances. May you keep the Eyes of your Heart as open as your Mind. May your spirit be guided in the Peace and Love of the Eternal Creator. Peace and Love
7/24/2008 8:27:17 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
justme1952 Rural Retreat, VA age: 58	Fornication is sex between two people that are not married. Shacking up means the two are fornicating. If the woman is a virgin and they can't contain themselves before marriage, then afterwards they are to marry. Then they have not sinned. As long as they marry afterwards. I don't know about the masterbation thing. I'll have to read and study about that one. 1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat. 1Co 5:12 For what have I to do, to judge them also that are without?, do not ye judge them that are within? 1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves, that wicked person. God bless, Char [Edited 7/24/2008 8:28:04 PM ]
7/24/2008 9:39:59 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	Quote from knightnyte2: well, you quoted a little bit of scripture, perhaps you might look it up a bit yourself in your Bible. here's a link to make it easy for you. http://blueletterbible.org/ LOL. I've read the Bible, three times, never once seen any of the stuff I mentioned addressed by it. I also never met the Christian that can back that up with scripture.
7/25/2008 4:56:51 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
classicsfan Charlottetown, PE age: 53	Quote from monicasunshine: Quote from knightnyte2: well, you quoted a little bit of scripture, perhaps you might look it up a bit yourself in your Bible. here's a link to make it easy for you. http://blueletterbible.org/ LOL. I've read the Bible, three times, never once seen any of the stuff I mentioned addressed by it. I also never met the Christian that can back that up with scripture. I think you'll find that people who base their value systems on ancient texts pick and chose what to believe. There are a lot of examples in the bible of men having many wives, or of people having children out of wedlock. These are merely commented upon not condemned. However, if someone decides that something is a 'sin' they can always find a biblical reference to back it up.
7/25/2008 9:27:54 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	Quote from justme1952: Fornication is sex between two people that are not married. Shacking up means the two are fornicating. If the woman is a virgin and they can't contain themselves before marriage, then afterwards they are to marry. Then they have not sinned. As long as they marry afterwards. I don't know about the masterbation thing. I'll have to read and study about that one. 1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat. 1Co 5:12 For what have I to do, to judge them also that are without?, do not ye judge them that are within? 1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves, that wicked person. God bless, Char Thanks for the info, now let me offer this... Latin (New Testament Language) 1300, from O.Fr. fornication, from L.L. fornicationem (nom. fornicatio), from fornicari "fornicate," from L. fornix (gen. fornicis) "brothel," originally "arch, vaulted chamber" (Roman prostitutes commonly solicited from under the arches of certain buildings), from fornus "oven of arched or domed shape." Interesting how in the Latin language, its a reference to something different than pre marital sex. The OT also discourages spending money on prostitutes. It also seems as if Paul was making a suggestion and not giving us a "thus saith the Lord" speech. If I recall, didn't Jesus eat, drink, and sleep with those same types of people? [Edited 7/25/2008 9:29:00 AM ]
7/25/2008 9:54:52 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
sewright Evansville, WI age: 71	Quote from monicasunshine: Quote from justme1952: Fornication is sex between two people that are not married. Shacking up means the two are fornicating. If the woman is a virgin and they can't contain themselves before marriage, then afterwards they are to marry. Then they have not sinned. As long as they marry afterwards. I don't know about the masterbation thing. I'll have to read and study about that one. 1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat. 1Co 5:12 For what have I to do, to judge them also that are without?, do not ye judge them that are within? 1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves, that wicked person. God bless, Char Thanks for the info, now let me offer this... Latin (New Testament Language) 1300, from O.Fr. fornication, from L.L. fornicationem (nom. fornicatio), from fornicari "fornicate," from L. fornix (gen. fornicis) "brothel," originally "arch, vaulted chamber" (Roman prostitutes commonly solicited from under the arches of certain buildings), from fornus "oven of arched or domed shape." Interesting how in the Latin language, its a reference to something different than pre marital sex. The OT also discourages spending money on prostitutes. It also seems as if Paul was making a suggestion and not giving us a "thus saith the Lord" speech. If I recall, didn't Jesus eat, drink, and sleep with those same types of people? Scripture also tell us that people will interpret the bible to their own damnation also. We can try to justify everything we do in one way or another. I have a hunch you already know what is right and you are looking for justification to do what you want to. God also writes his law in our hearts if we do not harden those hearts and listen. Scripture in the new testament also says if a person even looks at another person with lust in their heart, they have committed fornication. When we try to rationalize and justify what we do we are walking on thin ice. Been their and done that. The only person you are fooling is yourself. I say this in the love of our Lord. Hugs Danielle
7/25/2008 10:30:31 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
knightnyte2 Spring, TX age: 58	Quote from sewright: Quote from monicasunshine: Quote from justme1952: Fornication is sex between two people that are not married. Shacking up means the two are fornicating. If the woman is a virgin and they can't contain themselves before marriage, then afterwards they are to marry. Then they have not sinned. As long as they marry afterwards. I don't know about the masterbation thing. I'll have to read and study about that one. 1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat. 1Co 5:12 For what have I to do, to judge them also that are without?, do not ye judge them that are within? 1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves, that wicked person. God bless, Char Thanks for the info, now let me offer this... Latin (New Testament Language) 1300, from O.Fr. fornication, from L.L. fornicationem (nom. fornicatio), from fornicari "fornicate," from L. fornix (gen. fornicis) "brothel," originally "arch, vaulted chamber" (Roman prostitutes commonly solicited from under the arches of certain buildings), from fornus "oven of arched or domed shape." Interesting how in the Latin language, its a reference to something different than pre marital sex. The OT also discourages spending money on prostitutes. It also seems as if Paul was making a suggestion and not giving us a "thus saith the Lord" speech. If I recall, didn't Jesus eat, drink, and sleep with those same types of people? Scripture also tell us that people will interpret the bible to their own damnation also. We can try to justify everything we do in one way or another. I have a hunch you already know what is right and you are looking for justification to do what you want to. God also writes his law in our hearts if we do not harden those hearts and listen. Scripture in the new testament also says if a person even looks at another person with lust in their heart, they have committed fornication. When we try to rationalize and justify what we do we are walking on thin ice. Been their and done that. The only person you are fooling is yourself. I say this in the love of our Lord. Hugs Danielle new profile, directly into the religion section, claiming to be Christian, and having her photos posted on an adult porn site.. well, no wonder! I'm not judging you, God, alone, does that. Some scriptures for thought. Isa 57:3 "But you--come here, you sons of a sorceress, you offspring of adulterers and prostitutes! Jer 9:2 Oh, that I had in the desert a lodging place for travelers, so that I might leave my people and go away from them; for they are all adulterers, a crowd of unfaithful people. Jer 23:10 The land is full of adulterers; because of the curse* the land lies parched* and the pastures in the desert are withered. The prophets follow an evil course and use their power unjustly. Mal 3:5 "So I will come near to you for judgment. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers and perjurers, against those who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive aliens of justice, but do not fear me," says the Lord Almighty. Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood up and prayed about* himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men-robbers, evildoers, adulterers-or even like this tax collector. 1Ti 1:10 for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers-and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine Hbr 13:4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.
7/25/2008 11:06:16 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
prince99 Los Angeles, CA age: 43	People make up stuff not christians, because a person uses the title of christian it doesn't make him or her a christian. Now concering the questions you asked Galatians 5:16,22 let's you know of things that are of the flesh as well as things that are the fruit of the spirit. The book of Ephisians 2 also shares info on those who walked according to this world according to the desires of the flesh. It is also written seek ye first the Kingdom Of God but when you serve the desires of the flesh first you became a slave to that which you put before the Lord. Men & Fathers who truely walk with Christ need to be open & share this truth, the truth that WE all have sinned but once we realize the truth we must honer our children with the truth that man is to search for his bride it has never been written that they should date, the bibke speaks of marriage no where will you find anything about dating. The fruits of the spirit is what you need to understand Galatinas 5
7/25/2008 11:16:45 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
knightnyte2 Spring, TX age: 58	Amen
7/25/2008 2:11:10 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	Thanks for the answers, I really appreciate them. Am I to assume that everyone that posted the responses are celibit? Or is it a case of not practicing what you preach?
7/25/2008 2:23:22 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	new profile, directly into the religion section, claiming to be Christian, and having her photos posted on an adult porn site.. well, no wonder! Actually, I didn't come directly in here. Been here for a few days, just now decided to post. I don't have any pictures on a porn site. The other site is a singles site also, with less strict rules than this site. By the way, I am Christian, accepted Christ as my personal savior. Not just the kind that goes to church and thinks that makes me saved. I'm not judging you, God, alone, does that. Some scriptures for thought. Isa 57:3 "But you--come here, you sons of a sorceress, you offspring of adulterers and prostitutes! Jer 9:2 Oh, that I had in the desert a lodging place for travelers, so that I might leave my people and go away from them; for they are all adulterers, a crowd of unfaithful people. Jer 23:10 The land is full of adulterers; because of the curse* the land lies parched* and the pastures in the desert are withered. The prophets follow an evil course and use their power unjustly. As I understood Jeremiah, God was referring to SPIRITUAL adultry. Since He seems to refer to the nation of ISRAEL as a harlot, a lot. He also says they went whoring after other gods. That has nothing to do with sex before marriage, but I guess people twist scripture to fit their purpose, as stated above. Mal 3:5 "So I will come near to you for judgment. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers and perjurers, against those who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive aliens of justice, but do not fear me," says the Lord Almighty. Adulterers are married people. I'm clear on that. Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood up and prayed about* himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men-robbers, evildoers, adulterers-or even like this tax collector. 1Ti 1:10 for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers-and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine Hbr 13:4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. Are we to ASSUME that sexual immorality applies to premarital sex? Maybe it applies to beastiality, homesexuality, or incest. The original language doesn't seem to expressly imply what people are saying that it means in english. Was it a sin for Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to have multiple wives? I don't recall Jesus changing that OT practice. If He did, where in the Bible is it? In Deuteronomy 27:20-23 it expressly mentions sexual acts that are "cursed" but no mention of pre marital sex.
7/25/2008 2:29:33 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
raventalon Belleville, IL age: 50	Gen. 38:8-10 tells of Onan, hence 'onanism' or interrupted intercourse.
7/25/2008 2:38:03 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
uhadme South El Monte, CA age: 47	in the Bible it has a story of 2 couples... the first is married and has a piece of paper.(marriage license) the second is married but has no piece of paper. which one do you think most would say is the lessor? the Bible say's the lessor is the better. Dr. Gene Scott talked on this once and explained it like this... everybody knows "you can't take it with you"... this also applies to a piece of paper any man could give you. God knows your mind and if you are married in true thought then you are married. sex love making whichever all are sacred acts. listening to others input is nice of you. only you will pay if they give you bad advice and YOU follow it. always make decisions the way you want to... whether or not socially acceptable or politically correct... otherwise you are not being the real YOU... only the version they force you to be against your inner will. and a phony if you think about it because that isn't the real YOU... or the way you would really be if they weren't a part of the equation. [Edited 7/25/2008 2:46:09 PM ]
7/26/2008 7:35:02 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	Quote from raventalon: Gen. 38:8-10 tells of Onan, hence 'onanism' or interrupted intercourse. What about it?
7/26/2008 7:36:48 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	Quote from uhadme: in the Bible it has a story of 2 couples... the first is married and has a piece of paper.(marriage license) the second is married but has no piece of paper. Can I get a reference to that story? I can't recall it.
7/26/2008 7:41:44 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
raventalon Belleville, IL age: 50	I guess you haven't met the Christo-Nazies yet.
7/26/2008 7:54:11 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
jrbogie Red Bluff, CA age: 61	Quote from knightnyte2: well, you quoted a little bit of scripture, perhaps you might look it up a bit yourself in your Bible. here's a link to make it easy for you. http://blueletterbible.org/ hahaha. you never had trouble touting scripture before knight. why now? could it be the lady's question makes sense and you folks do make up crap as you go along? hahahaha. man i do love this place.
7/26/2008 7:54:23 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
raventalon Belleville, IL age: 50
7/26/2008 7:54:55 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
raventalon Belleville, IL age: 50	Quote from polygonx: Quote from raventalon: I guess you haven't met the Christo-Nazies yet. Yes, I have, I am not sure, but I heard they the would have sex with me.
7/26/2008 7:57:56 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
jrbogie Red Bluff, CA age: 61	Quote from justme1952: Fornication is sex between two people that are not married. Shacking up means the two are fornicating. If the woman is a virgin and they can't contain themselves before marriage, then afterwards they are to marry. Then they have not sinned. As long as they marry afterwards. I don't know about the masterbation thing. I'll have to read and study about that one. 1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat. 1Co 5:12 For what have I to do, to judge them also that are without?, do not ye judge them that are within? 1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves, that wicked person. God bless, Char oral sex isn't sex so it isn't fornication so it must be ok between room mates so that doesn't count as shacking up huh? our last president even declared it was so in front of a grand jury after swearing to god he'd tell the truth. and he's a good christian. [Edited 7/26/2008 8:03:52 AM ]
7/26/2008 8:22:27 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
sewright Evansville, WI age: 71	Quote from polygonx: can you tell yet that you will find no favors with me? Would appreciate you keeping a civil tongue in your head and cut the vulgarity. I would think anyone with average intelligence could make their point without using gutter language. You are not impressing anyone. I am not talking about this particular quote, but some of the ones you posted earlier. Thats right I did say average intelligence, may be you don't come up that high. Any way knock it off or I will start flaging every post you make with that kind of language. If you want respect then give respect. Danielle
7/26/2008 9:22:20 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
rlynn_2 Martinsburg, WV age: 41	how much does the op make from prostitution
7/26/2008 9:26:57 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
jrbogie Red Bluff, CA age: 61	Quote from polygonx: Quote from sewright: Quote from polygonx: can you tell yet that you will find no favors with me? Would appreciate you keeping a civil tongue in your head and cut the vulgarity. I would think anyone with average intelligence could make their point without using gutter language. You are not impressing anyone. I am not talking about this particular quote, but some of the ones you posted earlier. Thats right I did say average intelligence, may be you don't come up that high. Any way knock it off or I will start flaging every post you make with that kind of language. If you want respect then give respect. Danielle you wont find average intelligence or respect, here, hell, I dont even speak Greek. to a degree i would agree, (hey, poet and din't know it) and you certainly are not enhancing either.
7/26/2008 9:49:36 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	Quote from polygonx: Quote from monicasunshine: Quote from raventalon: Gen. 38:8-10 tells of Onan, hence 'onanism' or interrupted intercourse. What about it? Onan jacked off, when God told him to impregnate a woman, but he tied one off. Any more brain busters for you idiots? I am getting tired of trying to hold respect for you f**king idiots. You sacrifice reason for bias, you purge thought for hate, and you just dont make any sense. Interesting because as I recall, he had sex and pulled out and spilled on the floor. What part of the story mentions masturbation? Are we now adding to God's word to fit our own interpretations?
7/26/2008 9:52:41 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	Quote from rlynn_2: how much does the op make from prostitution Probably a few dollars more than your mom makes. Just a guess.
7/26/2008 9:56:41 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
rlynn_2 Martinsburg, WV age: 41	Quote from monicasunshine: Quote from rlynn_2: how much does the op make from prostitution Probably a few dollars more than your mom makes. Just a guess. i dont have a mother,i am an alien,ET is my mother
7/26/2008 9:58:55 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
eyeonheaven Azle, TX age: 58	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible? Christians do not make up stuff, you either believe in the word or you do not. You either try to be the best Christian you can or you walk with the world.
7/26/2008 10:00:33 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
rlynn_2 Martinsburg, WV age: 41	Quote from eyeonheaven: Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible? Christians do not make up stuff, you either believe in the word or you do not. You either try to be the best Christian you can or you walk with the world. be in the world but not of the world.
7/26/2008 6:17:19 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
eks North Augusta, SC age: 41	Why do you think that christians make up stuff about sex and the bible? You sound as if you just want an excuse to as you say shak up.
7/26/2008 6:26:05 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 44	Augustine said of prostitution, that it is like a sewer, no one wants to talk about it, or acknowledge it exists, but if you take it out, the whole house fills up with shit. he also said Lord make me chaste, but not yet. and the reason they think that NOT having sex is a virtue is because they think jesus didn't have sex, but he hung out with hookers, and he said they would ger into heaven before the preachers and the lawmakers. he also said, it is what comes out of your mouth that makes you unclean Not what goes in, and the reason is, because what come sout of your mouth is from your heart. It is what is in your heart that makes you unclean. so if you are doing it for pure physical gratification If you are doing it and it is going to cause problems, like it is someone elses partnetr, or husband, then it is a sin, because if you were doing it with LOVE in your heart, you give up YOur own physical gratification, or emotional gratification for the other people.
7/26/2008 8:13:07 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
raventalon Belleville, IL age: 50	Quote from curiousone2: Augustine said of prostitution, that it is like a sewer, no one wants to talk about it, or acknowledge it exists, but if you take it out, the whole house fills up with shit. he also said Lord make me chaste, but not yet. and the reason they think that NOT having sex is a virtue is because they think jesus didn't have sex, but he hung out with hookers, and he said they would ger into heaven before the preachers and the lawmakers. he also said, it is what comes out of your mouth that makes you unclean Not what goes in, and the reason is, because what come sout of your mouth is from your heart. It is what is in your heart that makes you unclean. so if you are doing it for pure physical gratification If you are doing it and it is going to cause problems, like it is someone elses partnetr, or husband, then it is a sin, because if you were doing it with LOVE in your heart, you give up YOur own physical gratification, or emotional gratification for the other people. ummm...so ejaculation is clean...hm... JK
7/26/2008 9:15:15 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
justme1952 Rural Retreat, VA age: 58	Quote from curiousone2: Augustine said of prostitution, that it is like a sewer, no one wants to talk about it, or acknowledge it exists, but if you take it out, the whole house fills up with shit. he also said Lord make me chaste, but not yet. and the reason they think that NOT having sex is a virtue is because they think jesus didn't have sex, but he hung out with hookers, and he said they would ger into heaven before the preachers and the lawmakers. he also said, it is what comes out of your mouth that makes you unclean Not what goes in, and the reason is, because what come sout of your mouth is from your heart. It is what is in your heart that makes you unclean. so if you are doing it for pure physical gratification If you are doing it and it is going to cause problems, like it is someone elses partnetr, or husband, then it is a sin, because if you were doing it with LOVE in your heart, you give up YOur own physical gratification, or emotional gratification for the other people. Jesus sat with publicans and prostitutes and talked to them and taught them. He never took part in any sin. Jesus was sinless. He went to those that were in need of a saviour. His very presents convicted them of their sin. He did not partake in the sin. Fornication, (sex between two people that are not married to one another) is sin. Char
7/26/2008 9:17:01 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 44	Quote from raventalon: Quote from curiousone2: Augustine said of prostitution, that it is like a sewer, no one wants to talk about it, or acknowledge it exists, but if you take it out, the whole house fills up with shit. he also said Lord make me chaste, but not yet. and the reason they think that NOT having sex is a virtue is because they think jesus didn't have sex, but he hung out with hookers, and he said they would ger into heaven before the preachers and the lawmakers. he also said, it is what comes out of your mouth that makes you unclean Not what goes in, and the reason is, because what come sout of your mouth is from your heart. It is what is in your heart that makes you unclean. so if you are doing it for pure physical gratification If you are doing it and it is going to cause problems, like it is someone elses partnetr, or husband, then it is a sin, because if you were doing it with LOVE in your heart, you give up YOur own physical gratification, or emotional gratification for the other people. ummm...so ejaculation is clean...hm... JK UMMMMM yeah! it is what comes out of your mouth that makes you unclean, NOT what goes into it, because what comes out of it, comes from the heart,lol
7/26/2008 9:22:12 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 44	Quote from justme1952: Quote from curiousone2: Augustine said of prostitution, that it is like a sewer, no one wants to talk about it, or acknowledge it exists, but if you take it out, the whole house fills up with shit. he also said Lord make me chaste, but not yet. and the reason they think that NOT having sex is a virtue is because they think jesus didn't have sex, but he hung out with hookers, and he said they would ger into heaven before the preachers and the lawmakers. he also said, it is what comes out of your mouth that makes you unclean Not what goes in, and the reason is, because what come sout of your mouth is from your heart. It is what is in your heart that makes you unclean. so if you are doing it for pure physical gratification If you are doing it and it is going to cause problems, like it is someone elses partnetr, or husband, then it is a sin, because if you were doing it with LOVE in your heart, you give up YOur own physical gratification, or emotional gratification for the other people. Jesus sat with publicans and prostitutes and talked to them and taught them. He never took part in any sin. Jesus was sinless. He went to those that were in need of a saviour. His very presents convicted them of their sin. He did not partake in the sin. Fornication, (sex between two people that are not married to one another) is sin. Char IT IS NOT< the message of soddom and gammorah, was the same message jesus gave, but the tards at the temple missed it, because it behooved them to miss it, and that was that NO ONE in town except LOT would help them or be kind. as a matter of fact, they wanted to anally rape them. all commandments hang on loving God, and Loving each other as we want to beloved. nothing done in that vain can be sinfull. if you think it is you missed the mark. and for the record, the definitoon of sin, is to miss the mark of what is right as an archer misses a target. it is the same definition in the upanishads, and the Bible, so how can one be right and the other be wrong, when they say the same thing. and can I point out, that if you think that the Vedas, and the Upanishads, are false, then you MUST believe that GOD intended for only a few people to get into heaven?? only a few people were worthy ion his sight, and that is rediculous, there are people from ALL of the groups, and some will get it, and some wont. it also says GOD is the GOD of the living.
7/26/2008 9:23:47 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
sewright Evansville, WI age: 71	Quote from curiousone2: Quote from raventalon: Quote from curiousone2: Augustine said of prostitution, that it is like a sewer, no one wants to talk about it, or acknowledge it exists, but if you take it out, the whole house fills up with shit. he also said Lord make me chaste, but not yet. and the reason they think that NOT having sex is a virtue is because they think jesus didn't have sex, but he hung out with hookers, and he said they would ger into heaven before the preachers and the lawmakers. he also said, it is what comes out of your mouth that makes you unclean Not what goes in, and the reason is, because what come sout of your mouth is from your heart. It is what is in your heart that makes you unclean. so if you are doing it for pure physical gratification If you are doing it and it is going to cause problems, like it is someone elses partnetr, or husband, then it is a sin, because if you were doing it with LOVE in your heart, you give up YOur own physical gratification, or emotional gratification for the other people. ummm...so ejaculation is clean...hm... JK UMMMMM yeah! it is what comes out of your mouth that makes you unclean, NOT what goes into it, because what comes out of it, comes from the heart,lol I am sure their have been many people who prayed to God for one thing or another before giving themselves completely to God. Augustine is no exception. We all try to justify our own sinful nature. Augustine was truly a sinful man before he gave his life to Christ. But then again we are all sinful people and that is why the need for a Savior. Hugs Danielle
7/26/2008 9:33:06 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 44	char, I did not say Jesus sinned, Jersus told the pharisees, the prostitutes and tax collectors would get into heaven before them. why did he say that?? let me tell you what he said was sinful, evil thought, sexual immorality ( NOT sex, sexual immorality)theft, malice,deceit, lewdness, envy,slander, arrogance, and folly. these are things JESUS mentions as coming from the hart of a man, that makes him unclean. it is these things being in his heart. in other words, sex is serious, and should be treated with respect. not that you can't have multiple partners, or it has to be sanctioned by the courts, but you have to be sharing something loving between the two of you, other than just an Orgasm.
7/26/2008 10:08:21 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
llfuzzball Denver, CO age: 45	I am a Christian, I am celibate, and I am still a virgin at 43 years old by the grace of God.
7/26/2008 11:38:43 PM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
lees224 Cohoes, NY age: 53	Hhmm...
7/27/2008 5:53:05 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
jrbogie Red Bluff, CA age: 61	second your hmmmmmm, lee. maybe there's a prostelizing mission of a different sort for you here. ya think? [Edited 7/27/2008 5:54:43 AM ]
7/27/2008 5:54:43 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
pink_rose Rockland, MA age: 32	why do you have to make a forum about peoples religion? dont u have a brain???
7/27/2008 5:56:14 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
jrbogie Red Bluff, CA age: 61	good question. who did make this forum anyway?
7/27/2008 6:06:05 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
sewright Evansville, WI age: 71	Quote from llfuzzball: I am a Christian, I am celibate, and I am still a virgin at 43 years old by the grace of God. And I admire you. The Apostle Paul said it is good for some one to marry, but it is better to be as I am, for the one who is married is distracted by things concerning the marriage, where as a person who is single will be concerned with matters concerning God. He did say it is better for someone to marry then to end up in hell for having sex out of wedlock. These are not the exact words but the exact meaning. Hugs Danielle
7/27/2008 6:11:33 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
lust4love Atco, NJ age: 40	im sorry to go off topic but Why do women scream Oh God when they are reaching orgasm?
7/27/2008 6:22:31 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
raventalon Belleville, IL age: 50	Quote from llfuzzball: I am a Christian, I am celibate, and I am still a virgin at 43 years old by the grace of God. Damn, man! Use before you lose it! (a saying) Meaning it could lead to a host of medical problems!
7/27/2008 6:23:25 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
raventalon Belleville, IL age: 50	Quote from sewright: Quote from llfuzzball: I am a Christian, I am celibate, and I am still a virgin at 43 years old by the grace of God. And I admire you. The Apostle Paul said it is good for some one to marry, but it is better to be as I am, for the one who is married is distracted by things concerning the marriage, where as a person who is single will be concerned with matters concerning God. He did say it is better for someone to marry then to end up in hell for having sex out of wedlock. These are not the exact words but the exact meaning. Hugs Danielle Paul may have been a homo....
7/27/2008 7:34:22 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
sewright Evansville, WI age: 71	Quote from raventalon: Quote from sewright: Quote from llfuzzball: I am a Christian, I am celibate, and I am still a virgin at 43 years old by the grace of God. And I admire you. The Apostle Paul said it is good for some one to marry, but it is better to be as I am, for the one who is married is distracted by things concerning the marriage, where as a person who is single will be concerned with matters concerning God. He did say it is better for someone to marry then to end up in hell for having sex out of wedlock. These are not the exact words but the exact meaning. Hugs Danielle Paul may have been a homo.... Whom do you think you impressed with that statement? Proverbs says argue with a fool and you shall be like unto him. It has been my experience that some people who make comments like that are a little insecure in their own masculinity. [Edited 7/27/2008 8:03:22 AM ]
7/27/2008 7:39:39 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
classicsfan Charlottetown, PE age: 53	Quote from monicasunshine: Thanks for the answers, I really appreciate them. Am I to assume that everyone that posted the responses are celibit? Or is it a case of not practicing what you preach? I've posted here, and I've never preached celibacy nor have I never been celibate by choice. Celibacy, or the lack thereof is usually better when discussed in person, rather than over the internet or telephone.
7/27/2008 7:48:15 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
scorpiomoon Brattleboro, VT age: 61	Isn't there a movie named the 40 Year Old Virgin? something like that? Very rare.
7/27/2008 8:07:35 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	Quote from rlynn_2: Quote from monicasunshine: Quote from rlynn_2: how much does the op make from prostitution Probably a few dollars more than your mom makes. Just a guess. i dont have a mother,i am an alien,ET is my mother yeah, that would mean you still have a mother.
7/27/2008 8:08:44 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
rlynn_2 Martinsburg, WV age: 41
7/27/2008 8:11:15 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
monicasunshine Las Vegas, NV age: 23	Quote from sewright: Quote from llfuzzball: I am a Christian, I am celibate, and I am still a virgin at 43 years old by the grace of God. And I admire you. The Apostle Paul said it is good for some one to marry, but it is better to be as I am, for the one who is married is distracted by things concerning the marriage, where as a person who is single will be concerned with matters concerning God. He did say it is better for someone to marry then to end up in hell for having sex out of wedlock. These are not the exact words but the exact meaning. Hugs Danielle Actually he said burn. We assume he meant hell and not an STD??? Hmmm... and Paul was unmarried, he never said celibit. We assume that again. He did say marriage was distracting, but never said not to have sex. That is something CHRISTIANS added to the Bible to fit their own interpretation. I've come to realize that if its not clearly said, Christians and Non Christians alike, make up stuff to fill in the blanks. [Edited 7/27/2008 8:14:40 AM ]
7/27/2008 8:39:18 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
raventalon Belleville, IL age: 50	Quote from sewright: Quote from raventalon: Quote from sewright: Quote from llfuzzball: I am a Christian, I am celibate, and I am still a virgin at 43 years old by the grace of God. And I admire you. The Apostle Paul said it is good for some one to marry, but it is better to be as I am, for the one who is married is distracted by things concerning the marriage, where as a person who is single will be concerned with matters concerning God. He did say it is better for someone to marry then to end up in hell for having sex out of wedlock. These are not the exact words but the exact meaning. Hugs Danielle Paul may have been a homo.... Whom do you think you impressed with that statement? Proverbs says argue with a fool and you shall be like unto him. It has been my experience that some people who make comments like that are a little insecure in their own masculinity. Well, that's untrue of me, lady. I treat ALL people as equals.
7/27/2008 8:56:02 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
classicsfan Charlottetown, PE age: 53	Quote from raventalon: Paul may have been a homo.... I think that, assuming he existed, he was definitely a Homo (sapiens)
7/27/2008 9:38:14 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
llfuzzball Denver, CO age: 45	Quote from pink_rose: why do you have to make a forum about peoples religion? dont u have a brain??? Huh???
7/27/2008 9:43:20 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
llfuzzball Denver, CO age: 45	Quote from monicasunshine: Quote from sewright: Quote from llfuzzball: I am a Christian, I am celibate, and I am still a virgin at 43 years old by the grace of God. And I admire you. The Apostle Paul said it is good for some one to marry, but it is better to be as I am, for the one who is married is distracted by things concerning the marriage, where as a person who is single will be concerned with matters concerning God. He did say it is better for someone to marry then to end up in hell for having sex out of wedlock. These are not the exact words but the exact meaning. Hugs Danielle Actually he said burn. We assume he meant hell and not an STD??? Hmmm... and Paul was unmarried, he never said celibit. We assume that again. He did say marriage was distracting, but never said not to have sex. That is something CHRISTIANS added to the Bible to fit their own interpretation. I've come to realize that if its not clearly said, Christians and Non Christians alike, make up stuff to fill in the blanks. The Bible clearly instructs us not to have sex outside of marriage. It is replete throughout Scripture. You are trying to gloss over it or not see it because you are trying to justify your own sin. As far as masturbation goes, can you masturbate without lusting or fantasizing about having sex??? Your conscience is clearly bothering you about your sexual immorality. And Lees, what do you mean by "Hmmm"?
7/27/2008 9:44:26 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
llfuzzball Denver, CO age: 45	Quote from scorpiomoon: Isn't there a movie named the 40 Year Old Virgin? something like that? Very rare. Not as rare as you think
7/27/2008 9:56:52 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
sewright Evansville, WI age: 71	Quote from llfuzzball: Quote from scorpiomoon: Isn't there a movie named the 40 Year Old Virgin? something like that? Very rare. Not as rare as you think If you think it is so rare, google the word a-sexual and see what you find. I am not saying that is fuzz, but I am saying it is a lot more common then you think. Danielle
7/27/2008 10:07:54 AM	Why Do Christians Make Up Stuff Regarding Sex And The Bible?
sewright Evansville, WI age: 71	Quote from monicasunshine: Quote from sewright: Quote from llfuzzball: I am a Christian, I am celibate, and I am still a virgin at 43 years old by the grace of God. And I admire you. The Apostle Paul said it is good for some one to marry, but it is better to be as I am, for the one who is married is distracted by things concerning the marriage, where as a person who is single will be concerned with matters concerning God. He did say it is better for someone to marry then to end up in hell for having sex out of wedlock. These are not the exact words but the exact meaning. Hugs Danielle Actually he said burn. We assume he meant hell and not an STD??? Hmmm... and Paul was unmarried, he never said celibit. We assume that again. He did say marriage was distracting, but never said not to have sex. That is something CHRISTIANS added to the Bible to fit their own interpretation. I've come to realize that if its not clearly said, Christians and Non Christians alike, make up stuff to fill in the blanks. It is quit clear you are looking for justification to do what ever you want. You are not going to accept any bodies posts that do not agree with your position. Of all the worldly pleasures on this earth, none of them are worth giving up eternal life for. Life goes by a lot faster then you think and there will come a day we will all have to give an account before God. All I am saying is you better be awful sure of what you are saying as you are betting your eternity on it. I will share with you a poem I wrote one time about why Jesus wept. Why Jesus Wept Did you ever stop and wonder why On the night before He died The tears ran down our Savior’s Face As openly he cried. Every person who would ever live Passed before the Lord that night, He saw the ones that wouldn’t be saved It was a painful sight. He knew that He’d be lifted up. To draw all men to him. He saw how men would turn their backs And continued with their sins. He saw how for a little pleasure. Some men their souls would sell. And how that they rejected God And sent them selves to Hell. I’d like for everyone to stop and think Of all the things you do Could you stand before the throne of God Or was one tear for you. Danielle

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