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blauefliegen
New Bedford, MA
age: 33
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Monday, May 31, 2010
Israeli forces have attacked a flotilla of aid-carrying ships aiming to break the country's siege on Gaza.
At least 19 people were killed and dozens injured when troops intercepted the convoy of ships dubbed the Freedom Flotilla early on Monday, Israeli radio reported.
The flotilla was attacked in international waters, 65km off the Gaza coast.
Avital Leibovich, an Israeli military spokeswoman, confirmed that the attack took place in international waters, saying: "This happened in waters outside of Israeli territory, but we have the right to defend ourselves."
Footage from the flotilla's lead vessel, the Mavi Marmara, showed armed Israeli soldiers boarding the ship and helicopters flying overhead.
Al Jazeera's Jamal Elshayyal, on board the Mavi Marmara, said Israeli troops had used live ammunition during the operation.
Aftermath of Israel's attack on Gaza flotilla
The Israeli military said four soldiers had been wounded and claimed troops opened fire after "demonstrators onboard attacked the IDF Naval personnel with live fire and light weaponry including knives and clubs".
Free Gaza Movement, the organisers of the flotilla, however, said the troops opened fire as soon as they stormed the convoy.
Our correspondent said that a white surrender flag was raised from the ship and there was no live fire coming from the passengers.
Before losing communication with our correspondent, a voice in Hebrew was clearly heard saying: "Everyone shut up".
Israeli intervention
Earlier, the Israeli navy had contacted the captain of the Mavi Marmara, asking him to identify himself and say where the ship was headed.
Shortly after, two Israeli naval vessels had flanked the flotilla on either side, but at a distance.
Organisers of the flotilla carrying 10,000 tonnes of humanitarian aid then diverted their ships and slowed down to avoid a confrontation during the night.
They also issued all passengers life jackets and asked them to remain below deck.
Al Jazeera’s Ayman Mohyeldin, reporting from Jerusalem, said the Israeli action was surprising.
"All the images being shown from the activists on board those ships show clearly that they were civilians and peaceful in nature, with medical supplies on board. So it will surprise many in the international community to learn what could have possibly led to this type of confrontation," he said.
Meanwhile, Israeli police have been put on a heightened state of alert across the country to prevent any civil disturbances.
Sheikh Raed Salah,a leading member of the Islamic Movement who was on board the ship, was reported to have been seriously injured. He was being treated in Israel's Tal Hasharon hospital.
In Um Al Faham, the stronghold of the Islamic movement in Israel and the birth place of Salah, preparations for mass demonstrations were under way.
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| 5/31/2010 5:20:05 AM |
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blauefliegen
New Bedford, MA
age: 33
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| 5/31/2010 6:28:58 AM |
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widow_hatingit
Eastlake, OH
age: 61
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-----real time news
http://www.livestation.com/channels/3-al_jazeera_english_english
---Israel goes to highest alert level. Urges all Israeli tourists in Turkey to come home. When asked them to leave Turkey immediately, they already aren't safe, ask to leave a country is serious this is beyond not safe.
Usually they just say stay in your house or hotel.
19 deaths, could mean war ....unacceptable raid on the ship by Israel, BB
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| 5/31/2010 7:41:28 AM |
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moraldk325
State College, PA
age: 45
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Those pricks need to be eliminated. Protecting themselves by attacking a humanitarian aid fleet in international waters?????
I say we use the exact same logic...protect ourselves by dropping a nuke on them.
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| 5/31/2010 7:48:59 AM |
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daddydeep
Walterboro, SC
age: 68
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Uhhhh Blofarten,m all the reports I heard about this had the ISRAELIS being attacked, might want to check your ALL ZIONINST News Service and see if they have any idea who shot first???? 
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| 5/31/2010 7:51:31 AM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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Those pricks need to be eliminated. Protecting themselves by attacking a humanitarian aid fleet in international waters?????
I say we use the exact same logic...protect ourselves by dropping a nuke on them.
If they can crush a young innocent girl to death with a bulldozer and blame her for her own death, and claim 'self defense'; I'm sure they'll find a way out of this one too.
By all means, Israel must be stopped. This arrogant country is danger to world peace.
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| 5/31/2010 7:53:23 AM |
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burdened
Austin, TX
age: 58
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When all the Armies of the World, gather against the little itty bitty country of Israel, because they hate them. That is when Jesus returns.
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| 5/31/2010 8:02:58 AM |
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moraldk325
State College, PA
age: 45
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When all the Armies of the World, gather against the little itty bitty country of Israel, because they hate them. That is when Jesus returns.
Yea....whatever.
I say we turn Isreal into a glass parking lot to celebrate his arrival. Then let whoever wants that glowing shithole go in and live there.
That would be a splendid way to end this f**king stupidity once and for all. Just give them 24 hours notice to evacuate, then drop nukes on the religious sites, and see who claims them THEN. We'll see whose faith is strong enough to go and kneel in a radioactive bomb crater.
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| 5/31/2010 8:04:47 AM |
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kinkycapitalist
Atlanta, GA
age: 55
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If Israel attacked Turkey from behind, would Greece help?
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| 5/31/2010 8:09:57 AM |
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justanathan
Hamilton, MT
age: 48
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Monday, May 31, 2010
Israeli forces have attacked a flotilla of aid-carrying ships aiming to break the country's siege on Gaza.
At least 19 people were killed and dozens injured when troops intercepted the convoy of ships dubbed the Freedom Flotilla early on Monday, Israeli radio reported.
The flotilla was attacked in international waters, 65km off the Gaza coast.
"The activists were headed to Gaza on a mission meant to draw attention to the blockade, which Israel and Egypt imposed after the militant Hamas group seized the territory of 1.5 million Palestinians in 2007."
"An Israeli commando said he and his comrades were surprised by a group of Arabic-speaking men when they rapelled onto the deck."
"He said some of the soldiers, taken off guard, were stripped of their helmets and equipment and thrown from the top deck to the lower deck, and that some had even jumped overboard to save themselves. At one point one of the passengers seized one of the soldiers' weapons and opened fire."
Oh, and Israel was the bad guy right?? Egypt too??
Flip'en racist, half story telling, stuck on stupid, anti Semites.
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| 5/31/2010 8:12:40 AM |
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mgdbottled
Suttons Bay, MI
age: 60
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Israel and Egypt imposed the blockade on Gaza after Hamas militants violently seized control of the seaside territory in June 2007.
Israel says the measures are needed to prevent Hamas, which has fired thousands of rockets at Israel, from building up its arsenal. But U.N. officials and international aid groups say the blockade has been counterproductive, failing to weaken the Islamic militant group while devastating the local economy.
So, we have a ship attempting to run the blockage and obviously armed. Israel boards the ship and is fired upon and people have a problem with that. Hamas is a terrorist group.
Sorry, I support Israel on this one unless I hear a different factual sceniaro. The USA would have done the same thing under the same circumstances.
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| 5/31/2010 8:15:31 AM |
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justanathan
Hamilton, MT
age: 48
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-----real time news
http://www.livestation.com/channels/3-al_jazeera_english_english
---Israel goes to highest alert level. Urges all Israeli tourists in Turkey to come home. When asked them to leave Turkey immediately, they already aren't safe, ask to leave a country is serious this is beyond not safe.
Usually they just say stay in your house or hotel.
19 deaths, could mean war ....unacceptable raid on the ship by Israel, BB
There is more to the story than that. And Israel has the right to stop all who fund/support Hamas.
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| 5/31/2010 8:15:52 AM |
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moraldk325
State College, PA
age: 45
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They were in international waters.
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| 5/31/2010 8:29:11 AM |
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mgdbottled
Suttons Bay, MI
age: 60
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They were in international waters.
And headed for Gaza. I don't see your point.
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| 5/31/2010 8:30:59 AM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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So, we have a ship attempting to run the blockage and obviously armed. Israel boards the ship and is fired upon and people have a problem with that. Hamas is a terrorist group.
Sorry, I support Israel on this one unless I hear a different factual sceniaro. The USA would have done the same thing under the same circumstances.
That's total bull ! The ship was unarmed and the Israelis went in with the intent to kill people onboard.
15 of the dead are Turkish nationals..
The ship was in international waters.
So was the USS Liberty when it came under attack in 1967. Were the Israelis defending themselves then ?
When Rachel Corrie was crushed to death, were the Israelis defending themselves then ?
This is nothing new for the war criminals in Tel Aviv. It's not their first and it won't be their last . They are brazen serial murderers.
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| 5/31/2010 8:34:35 AM |
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sergio1980
Posadas
Argentina
age: 30 online now!
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They have attacked UN observers as well. Why is Iran penalized while Israel is spared?
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| 5/31/2010 8:35:42 AM |
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moraldk325
State College, PA
age: 45
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And headed for Gaza. I don't see your point.
It was an aid fleet that had yet to cross into any restricted areas. And why should Isreal keep aid fleets from entering, anyway?
Isreal purposely bombed our ship, killing many soldiers, in an attempt to frame their enemies, and got caught red handed...and we don't keep them from getting food and medical supplies. They have broken every treaty they have had with us, and violated an agreement to not have nuclear weapons. We continuously turn a blind eye to these things, while penalizing others for far less.
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| 5/31/2010 8:36:53 AM |
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stargazzer
Creighton, NE
age: 61
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nothing like scewing the facts to blame Israel.
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| 5/31/2010 8:41:59 AM |
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4thdimension
Corpus Christi, TX
age: 42
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The only time the jews tell on themselves is when they are attempting to divert you from focusing on something else i.e. Gulf Oil Spill
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| 5/31/2010 8:43:51 AM |
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mgdbottled
Suttons Bay, MI
age: 60
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It was an aid fleet that had yet to cross into any restricted areas. And why should Isreal keep aid fleets from entering, anyway?
Isreal purposely bombed our ship, killing many soldiers, in an attempt to frame their enemies, and got caught red handed...and we don't keep them from getting food and medical supplies. They have broken every treaty they have had with us, and violated an agreement to not have nuclear weapons. We continuously turn a blind eye to these things, while penalizing others for far less.
The US ship that was attacked a while back was a case of mistaken identity and admittedly a mistake by Israel. The USA shot down an Iranian airliner a while back by mistake. Mistakes happen and they're regretable.
The Israeli's had an absolute right to board for inspection purposes any vessel headed for Gaza. The reports I've read state they were met with force upon doing so. I haven't heard any facts reported that suggest otherwise.
The Palestinians were given an opportunity for free democratic elections. They chose to elect a Terrorist Group. Now they have to live with the consequences. Their problem. I support Israel until I hear something that would cause me to question that support. So far, I haven't.
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| 5/31/2010 8:50:20 AM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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The US ship that was attacked a while back was a case of mistaken identity and admittedly a mistake by Israel. The USA shot down an Iranian airliner a while back by mistake. Mistakes happen and they're regretable.
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The attack on the USS Liberty was NO MISTAKE. The testimonies of the survivors are clearly documented, and they ALL without exceptions, vehemently rejected the Israeli lie. A mistake does not take to 2 1/2 hours to be detected. That was a premidated attack which followed hours of surveillance by Israeli aircrafts.
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| 5/31/2010 8:59:31 AM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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| 5/31/2010 9:31:57 AM |
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lloydfromutah
Wake Forest, NC
age: 53
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If Israel attacked Turkey from behind, would Greece help?
I see you're still fixated on that sort of thing. 
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| 5/31/2010 9:34:31 AM |
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lloydfromutah
Wake Forest, NC
age: 53
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The only time the jews tell on themselves is when they are attempting to divert you from focusing on something else i.e. Gulf Oil Spill
...and the Gulf Oil Spill is being used to divert people's attention from what the Republicraps and Democraps are doing in Washington DC.
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| 5/31/2010 10:01:04 AM |
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simonptkd
Berkshire
United Kingdom
age: 51
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Firstly, both Israel and EGYPT have blockaded Gaza,
Secondly, Israel regularly searches vessels it suspects, as does any country , the US included. In fact the US has gone as far a blockading an entire country when America deemed her security was threatened...anyone remember CUBA.
Thirdly, Israel had already requested that the ships divert to an Israeli port and that all humanitarian aid would be sent overland to Gaza...that is not unreasonable under the circumstances
When boarded, the crew resisted, WHY would they do that when being subjected to a search they knew would happen if they violated the blockade.
Why put up a fight unless there was something to hide......
Multinational warships have a UN mandate to stop vessels off the Somali coast if they suspect them of being pirates....why no outcry about this then.....Israel has NO problem with humanitarian aid going into Gaza, it is when, as has been the case before, these so called humanitarian shipments include arms and other items that can be used against Israel thar causes the problem.
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| 5/31/2010 10:03:39 AM |
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blauefliegen
New Bedford, MA
age: 33
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One thing people dont know about the Palestenians,from each house in Palestine one or more were killed by Israelis or are in Israelis jails.Israelis dont care how old you are, they have all rights in the killing,destroying anything they want ,of course they can give excuses to international media there,but to Palestinians "go to the hell".Israel killed even many peacefull activists from different countries.The question is what does it mean you cant have any water,food,power,hospitals,..you cant decide for yourself because you have no right and we"Israel"have everything to do what she wants??? Is this really a "democracy" or "freedom" or Barbaism"caveman"???
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| 5/31/2010 10:14:56 AM |
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simonptkd
Berkshire
United Kingdom
age: 51
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They have attacked UN observers as well. Why is Iran penalized while Israel is spared?
It happens...just as examples!!!
On 8 October, on the basis of security assurances provided by Georgia and following clearance of the flight by the Abkhaz authorities as well as their assurances that the irregulars had been driven northwards, UNOMIG undertook a regular helicopter patrol to the Kodori Valley. Shortly after the helicopter took off, it was shot down close to the entrance of the valley, 20 kilometres east of Sukhumi. All nine unarmed people on board were killed, including four United Nations military observers, two locally employed United Nations staff members and the three members of the contracted helicopter crew. This was the most serious security incident in the history of UNOMIG
2004 KIGALI, Rwanda (AP) _ A U.N. military observer was shot dead Thursday while investigating reports of fighting between rival tribal factions in volatile northeastern Congo, a U.N. spokesman said.
As to the alleged offence by Israel in Lebanon..this makes for an interesting read....
Hezbollah was using UN post as 'shield'
The words of a Canadian United Nations observer written just days before he was killed in an Israeli bombing of a UN post in Lebanon are evidence Hezbollah was using the post as a "shield" to fire rockets into Israel, says a former UN commander in Bosnia.
By The Ottawa Citizen July 27, 2006 Be the first to post a comment
The words of a Canadian United Nations observer written just days before he was killed in an Israeli bombing of a UN post in Lebanon are evidence Hezbollah was using the post as a "shield" to fire rockets into Israel, says a former UN commander in Bosnia.
The whole article can be read here:
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50
This clearly shows what many say about Arab militant tactics, their disdain for the conventions on war and is witnessed daily in many areanas of war today.....
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| 5/31/2010 10:25:54 AM |
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forthcrossing
Ashford, WA
age: 60
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North KOREA sinks a south korean naval ship kills 46 sailors starves its people to death does nuke tests and the un security concil hasnt even said anything that was better then a month ago but they are jumpin up and down allready wanting to condem isreal. Whats wrong with this pic JMO
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| 5/31/2010 10:46:43 AM |
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blauefliegen
New Bedford, MA
age: 33
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North KOREA sinks a south korean naval ship kills 46 sailors starves its people to death does nuke tests and the un security concil hasnt even said anything that was better then a month ago but they are jumpin up and down allready wanting to condem isreal. Whats wrong with this pic JMO
when two twins fight just stay away it's a family problem, you are a stranger
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| 5/31/2010 10:46:56 AM |
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johnjhb
Paisley, FL
age: 57
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All on this site that cast the first stone, and dont even know the truth, or as paul harvey would say the rest of the story. You all get info from the spin doctors, laced with hydrocarbonated Koolaid! i wish some of your sorry ass,es had to live under what they do on a daily basis. just think Wow there that air raid horn goes again have to shut off and get off DH to hide in the bunker again, as the rag heads are lobing rockets again. You live here in peace, and call the police when some bad guy is ruining your day, and think you are on top of the world with that little lap top you have. you have sat in the jugement seat, for a small nation that was predicted to be here twice, and the good book tell,s the story of the time we are in. yesterday,s news, and todays news in a book that over two thousand years old. Cant argue with the devil. so wont waste the time, but if you hate them just man up and come to the plate and say you hate them, dont sit back, and repeat the spin. grow a pair while you can, as your time will be short. and when it comes to visit you, we can watch! and say to sad so bad, but the moron just would not see the truth! So sit and spin, you still cant win. because you are allready dead.
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| 5/31/2010 10:49:09 AM |
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simonptkd
Berkshire
United Kingdom
age: 51
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North KOREA sinks a south korean naval ship kills 46 sailors starves its people to death does nuke tests and the un security concil hasnt even said anything that was better then a month ago but they are jumpin up and down allready wanting to condem isreal. Whats wrong with this pic JMO
It is all about hating the Jews and all this bluster is to avoid coming out and saying it...The sad truth is they probably could not give a single reason for their hatred. And even if they did, it could be pointed out that much of what Israel does is being done elswhere by other countries and even their own. Then their hypocrisy shines like the star of Bethlehem!!!!!
A glowing example is the American blocade of Cuba....
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| 5/31/2010 10:56:34 AM |
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blauefliegen
New Bedford, MA
age: 33
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It is all about hating the Jews and all this bluster is to avoid coming out and saying it...The sad truth is they probably could not give a single reason for their hatred. And even if they did, it could be pointed out that much of what Israel does is being done elswhere by other countries and even their own. Then their hypocrisy shines like the star of Bethlehem!!!!!
A glowing example is the American blocade of Cuba....
To correct ,the problem is not about the hate, it's about condemning the bad actions(stop acting like a victim)
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| 5/31/2010 11:11:30 AM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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A glowing example is the American blocade of Cuba....
The U.S. have an embargo against Cuba and not a blockade. A blockade prevents any types of goods from going in or out; an embargo prevents ONLY goods from the U.S. from going in or out of Cuba. Big difference...
There is absolutely no justification for what they did; especially in international waters.. This is exactly the sort of thing the Somali pirates were doing. I believe Israel intentionally attacked the ships in international waters in order to trigger a response which will be used as an excuse to escalate the situation into a full scale war.
The U.S. must prepare itself for another Israeli 9/11 attack...
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| 5/31/2010 11:18:59 AM |
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simonptkd
Berkshire
United Kingdom
age: 51
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To correct ,the problem is not about the hate, it's about condemning the bad actions(stop acting like a victim)
Bull and you know it...there are similar actions being committed daily elsewhere in the world but nothing gets said....It is always about the Jews. There have been UN observers killed all over the world, yet when looking them up you find one or two references, yet when the Israelis do it, there are hundreds. It is so blatantly obvious that the rest of the world can do as they please....where are all the ongoing gripes about ethnic cleansing in Africa, the genocides of Dafur, the illegal occupation of Northern Cyprus....Nah they can get away with all that , they are not Jewish!!!!!
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| 5/31/2010 11:23:22 AM |
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blauefliegen
New Bedford, MA
age: 33
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Bull and you know it...there are similar actions being committed daily elsewhere in the world but nothing gets said....It is always about the Jews. There have been UN observers killed all over the world, yet when looking them up you find one or two references, yet when the Israelis do it, there are hundreds. It is so blatantly obvious that the rest of the world can do as they please....where are all the ongoing gripes about ethnic cleansing in Africa, the genocides of Dafur, the illegal occupation of Northern Cyprus....Nah they can get away with all that , they are not Jewish!!!!!
Are you trying to justify it's normal and if bad "gangs" can do it Israel can do it too???c'mon man are you ok??? Jews are everywhere they are fine(dont mix Israel actions into Nazists fault)
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| 5/31/2010 11:23:33 AM |
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simonptkd
Berkshire
United Kingdom
age: 51
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The U.S. have an embargo against Cuba and not a blockade. A blockade prevents any types of goods from going in or out; an embargo prevents ONLY goods from the U.S. from going in or out of Cuba. Big difference...
There is absolutely no justification for what they did; especially in international waters.. This is exactly the sort of thing the Somali pirates were doing. I believe Israel intentionally attacked the ships in international waters in order to trigger a response which will be used as an excuse to escalate the situation into a full scale war.
The U.S. must prepare itself for another Israeli 9/11 attack...
Oh Yeah and what about the blockade when the US thought Russia was going to supply Cuba with missiles...did the US not blockade Cuba then, is the US not instrumental now behind economic sanctions that affect the people of Cuba???? Does the US not limit its companies to humanitarian trade with Cuba. There is no difference between what Kennedy did to Cuba and what is going on in Gaza today. Even Egypt is strengthening its border defenses on the Gaza border.
To condemn Israel without the same condemnation for the US actions against Cuba, the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus, the genocide in Dafur just shows the hypocrisy.
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| 5/31/2010 11:27:34 AM |
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duchessa
Yonkers, NY
age: 59
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When all the Armies of the World, gather against the little itty bitty country of Israel, because they hate them. That is when Jesus returns.
!Ya habló un tonto!
(A fool opening his mouth)
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| 5/31/2010 11:29:25 AM |
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blauefliegen
New Bedford, MA
age: 33
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there are lot of escapegoats coming over herefrom Mr simon
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| 5/31/2010 11:50:56 AM |
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rikkinblack
Fort Towson, OK
age: 73
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No it is not about hating Jews. I don't hate Jews. I believe Israel has the right to defend itself but the question becomes cloudy if Israel is allowed to arbitrarily attack ships and countries and claim "Preemptive" logic.
It is like a dance and countries have to have all the right moves or be able to show military might to define a new step. Israel would have been in better standing if they had attacked the six small boats (Not a flotilla by any definition I could find) in its own territorial waters. It happened on the open sea and that makes them pirates.
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| 5/31/2010 11:54:06 AM |
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rikkinblack
Fort Towson, OK
age: 73
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Israel attacked a mighty flotilla steaming towards its shores filled with dangerous weapons and mighty warriors bent on the reconquest of the holey lands.
Ten of the invaders were killed when Israeli commandos rappelled from helicopters firing their automatic weapons in self defence against the irate passengers who fired back with their slingshots.
It all sounds pretty ridiculous except after all the fluff words are stripped from the Israeli rhetoric it sounds more like angry people grabbing anything they can get their hands on to repel the pirates. Yes that is what they are PIRATES who attack vessels in international waters.
Israeli commandos storm aid flotilla; 9 killed
AP news May 31, 2010
JERUSALEM – Israeli naval commandos stormed a flotilla of ships carrying aid and hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists to the blockaded Gaza Strip on Monday, killing nine passengers in a botched raid that provoked international outrage and a diplomatic crisis.Dozens of activists and six Israeli soldiers were wounded in the bloody predawn confrontation in international waters.
Israel said it opened fire after its commandos were attacked by knives, clubs and live fire from two pistols wrested from soldiers after they rappelled from a helicopter at about 4 a.m. to board one of the vessels.
Activists, however, painted a completely different picture, saying the commandos stormed the ships after ordering them to stop in international waters, about 80 miles (130 kilometers) from Gaza's coast.
A reporter with the pan-Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera, who was sailing on the Turkish ship leading the flotilla, said the Israelis fired at the vessel before boarding it, wounding the captain.
"These savages are killing people here, please help," a Turkish television reporter said.
The broadcast ended with a voice shouting in Hebrew, "Everybody shut up!"
A high-ranking naval official displayed a box confiscated from the boat containing switchblades, slingshots, metal balls and metal bats. Most of the dead were Turkish, he said.
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| 5/31/2010 12:11:21 PM |
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justanathan
Hamilton, MT
age: 48
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Firstly, both Israel and EGYPT have blockaded Gaza,
Secondly, Israel regularly searches vessels it suspects, as does any country , the US included. In fact the US has gone as far a blockading an entire country when America deemed her security was threatened...anyone remember CUBA.
Thirdly, Israel had already requested that the ships divert to an Israeli port and that all humanitarian aid would be sent overland to Gaza...that is not unreasonable under the circumstances
When boarded, the crew resisted, WHY would they do that when being subjected to a search they knew would happen if they violated the blockade.
Why put up a fight unless there was something to hide......
Multinational warships have a UN mandate to stop vessels off the Somali coast if they suspect them of being pirates....why no outcry about this then.....Israel has NO problem with humanitarian aid going into Gaza, it is when, as has been the case before, these so called humanitarian shipments include arms and other items that can be used against Israel thar causes the problem.
Perfect!!
But the idiots will always hate Israel - no matter the reason. They are just like Hitler-"Kill all the Jews!"
This thread clearly shows who among us are mentally unfit to process information. Egypt was a part of this operation and yet they exclude that information from their reasonings.
All they want to do is justify their hate while never being able to be Just to begin with.
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| 5/31/2010 12:18:15 PM |
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justanathan
Hamilton, MT
age: 48
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The U.S. have an embargo against Cuba and not a blockade. A blockade prevents any types of goods from going in or out; an embargo prevents ONLY goods from the U.S. from going in or out of Cuba. Big difference...
There is absolutely no justification for what they did; especially in international waters.. This is exactly the sort of thing the Somali pirates were doing. I believe Israel intentionally attacked the ships in international waters in order to trigger a response which will be used as an excuse to escalate the situation into a full scale war.
The U.S. must prepare itself for another Israeli 9/11 attack...
Just because the media said they were in international waters - you believe it?? Well tell me this... How close do the international waters end when approaching Israel??
I would love to see you post the answer!
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| 5/31/2010 12:24:14 PM |
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blauefliegen
New Bedford, MA
age: 33
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Perfect!!
But the idiots will always hate Israel - no matter the reason. They are just like Hitler-"Kill all the Jews!"
This thread clearly shows who among us are mentally unfit to process information. Egypt was a part of this operation and yet they exclude that information from their reasonings.
All they want to do is justify their hate while never being able to be Just to begin with.
you are wrong nobody hate Jews because they were Jews,people hate what they have seen and if you cannot see we are sorry we cannot either see for you
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| 5/31/2010 12:29:13 PM |
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justanathan
Hamilton, MT
age: 48
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Well, I'm tired of waiting for a reply.
"An exclusive economic zone, commonly called a coastal nation's territorial waters, extends from the outer limit of the territorial sea to a maximum of 200 nautical miles (370.4 km) from the territorial sea baseline, thus it includes the contiguous zone.
A coastal nation has control of all economic resources within its exclusive economic zone, including fishing, mining, oil exploration, and any pollution of those resources. However, it cannot prohibit passage or loitering above, on, or under the surface of the sea that is in compliance with the laws and regulations adopted by the coastal State in accordance with the provisions of the UN Convention, within that portion of its exclusive economic zone beyond its territorial sea. Before 1982, coastal nations arbitrarily extended their territorial waters in an effort to control activities which are now regulated by the exclusive economic zone, such as offshore oil exploration or fishing rights (see Cod Wars).
So they were within the area controlled by Israeli Law and, in fact, were in violation of the Law. They refused to Port and subsequently were boarded.
Maybe you just want Israel to act like America when it comes to Border control. Right??
Hummm.
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| 5/31/2010 1:00:56 PM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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Just because the media said they were in international waters - you believe it?? Well tell me this... How close do the international waters end when approaching Israel??
I would love to see you post the answer!
The attack occurred outside the 22 km zone that is recognized by The U.N convention on the law of the sea, as the territorial waters of Gaza.
Just because every media said so, I have to believe it. Unless you have better sources yourself..
Sure Israel can claim the entire mediterranean off limit and consider it military zone. They've done the same with Lebanese territories during 20 years of occupation, claiming a buffer zone inside Lebanese territories.
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| 5/31/2010 1:16:06 PM |
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simonptkd
Berkshire
United Kingdom
age: 51
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The attack occurred outside the 22 km zone that is recognized by The U.N convention on the law of the sea, as the territorial waters of Gaza.
Just because every media said so, I have to believe it. Unless you have better sources yourself..
Sure Israel can claim the entire mediterranean off limit and consider it military zone. They've done the same with Lebanese territories during 20 years of occupation, claiming a buffer zone inside Lebanese territories.
Oh really, and exactly how many media were there than Al Jazeera....the rest of the media picked up on their byline....rather convenient to have hostile media onboard, unless of course you are intent on provocation...
By the way, where is the "22km" on the map you posted...
Israel occupies Lebanon, I think not they left even before Syria did and Hizbollah still occupy South Lebanon.....
Now lets see your take on Northern Cyprus, why are you no nearly so vocal about 36 years of occupation in contravention of international law, in contravention of a UN resolution.....
And whilst you are harping on Israel complying with Conventions, why are you not harping on about Hamas contravening the Convention on military units not only wearing distinguishable uniforms but unit insignia as well.
There was an outcry over IDF fire killing UN observers in Lebanon, yet one of the observers that was killed had reported only days earlier that Hizbollah had been attacking Israeli positions using the UN outpost as a shield, the same way they breach convention by using schools and places of worship as staging points for attacks......
So tell me why, you demand that Israel comply with all these conventions when you dont expect it from others ,
and why you limit your attacks to Israel and Israel alone???
See the picture you paint of yourself!!!!!!!!!Why bother denying you hate the Jews, it is so obvious.
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| 5/31/2010 1:19:40 PM |
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justanathan
Hamilton, MT
age: 48
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The purpose for Israel claiming the true 200 mile economic zone is that if they didn't they would have no economy; they be dead from missile launches just a mere 12 miles off the coast.
It's all media spin. 12 miles at peace is one thing but when you're surrounded by Islamic Extremist that want to kill you no matter what you do or provide - well then, the 200 mile barrier comes into play and rightfully so.
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| 5/31/2010 1:22:57 PM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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By the way, where is the "22km" on the map you posted...
Very clearly shown, can't you read ? or do you want me to translate what 12 nautical miles is equivalent to in kms ???
12 nautical miles = 22.22400 kilometers
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| 5/31/2010 1:27:52 PM |
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simonptkd
Berkshire
United Kingdom
age: 51
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Very clearly shown, can't you read ? or do you want me to translate what 12 nautical miles is equivalent to in kms ???
12 nautical miles = 22.22400 kilometers
When using a source it is customary to use the same terminology as the reference to avoid ambiguity....which is obviously what you want.....And in any event in enforcing its laws Israel has the right to use the contiguous zonew as well.....and talking of reading, where is yoir response to the other questions I posed you...or are you claiming the 5th on them???
But then of course anyone can break the rules and you dont whinge..only if it is the Israelis.
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| 5/31/2010 1:31:45 PM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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When using a source it is customary to use the same terminology as the reference to avoid ambiguity....which is obviously what you want.....and talking of reading, where is yoir response to the other questions I posed you...or are you claiming the 5th on them???
I like to expose your lies/ignorance one item at a time. i take joy in disecting liars. bear with me.. I'm not finished with you yet.
Most people don't know what a nautical mile is, and if you're so smart, why can't you figure it out yourself?
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| 5/31/2010 1:37:12 PM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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Israel occupies Lebanon, I think not they left even before Syria did and Hizbollah still occupy South Lebanon
Israel occupied south Lebanon from 1982 til 2000 . Hizbullah then DID NOT exist.
Hizbullah was the resistance force against the Israeli occupation of South Lebanon, just like Hamas is the resistance force against the Israeli occupation of Gaza . So Hizbullah is not stranger to the land nor the people of Lebanon and has a wide popular support there, just like Hamas has a wide popular support in Gaza.
Syria moved into Lebanon in 1976 to help the Christian Maronites who were on the verge of defeat then by a leftist alliance. Syrian troops when they moved into lebanon in 1976 were welcomed as saviors by the Christian lebanese.
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| 5/31/2010 1:41:51 PM |
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simonptkd
Berkshire
United Kingdom
age: 51
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That's total bull ! The ship was unarmed and the Israelis went in with the intent to kill people onboard.
15 of the dead are Turkish nationals..
The ship was in international waters.
So was the USS Liberty when it came under attack in 1967. Were the Israelis defending themselves then ?
When Rachel Corrie was crushed to death, were the Israelis defending themselves then ?
This is nothing new for the war criminals in Tel Aviv. It's not their first and it won't be their last . They are brazen serial murderers.
Face it, they were warned they would be stopped, and when they were they resorted to violence with conveniently hostile medis onboard...and you just cant see through the provocation.
And you forget, Israel is at war, a war declared on her by Arab neighbours like Iran who continue to fight a war through proxy, by arming Hizbollah and Hamas. But by the same token, what gave America the right to blockade Cuba....
By what right was the Israeli Olympic team attacked at Munich?????
Hamas is sworn to the destruction of Israel and Israel will do what it has to do to stem the flood of arms into Israel. Even Egypt has seen the problems that Hamas present and is sealing its border with Gaza. When are you going to get it into your head that until Hamas renounce violence they are not going to see the embargos lifted. Talking of which , when is the US going to lift its trade and financial embargoes on Cuba?
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| 5/31/2010 1:45:47 PM |
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blauefliegen
New Bedford, MA
age: 33
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"Israel is a joke and this joke struggling to be true,insisting on us to believe" Exitstien
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| 5/31/2010 1:49:16 PM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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So tell me why, you demand that Israel comply with all these conventions when you dont expect it from others ,
and why you limit your attacks to Israel and Israel alone???
There are over 220 U.N. resolutions condemnimg Israel's aggression against lebanon and the palestinians. There are resolutions demanding Israel cede the teriritories it captured in its 1948 and 1967 wars. There are resolutions demanding Israel to allow the return of the palestinian refugees to their homes. There are U.N. resolutions demanding Israel to stop discriminating against its Arab palestinian population, stop the deporations, stop the land confiscation , and the demographic changes it is slowly introducing to the territories under its control.. Ethnic cleansing, total blocakde of gaza, severe travel restrictions and movements of the Palestininas . When Israel abides by all these resolutions, there will be no need for Hamas nor Hizbullah to exist.
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| 5/31/2010 1:49:57 PM |
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leslie40
Marion, NC
age: 41 online now!
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When using a source it is customary to use the same terminology as the reference to avoid ambiguity....which is obviously what you want.....And in any event in enforcing its laws Israel has the right to use the contiguous zonew as well.....and talking of reading, where is yoir response to the other questions I posed you...or are you claiming the 5th on them???
But then of course anyone can break the rules and you dont whinge..only if it is the Israelis.
They just love hating on the Israelis. I'm still waiting to see his responses to your other questions, lol 
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| 5/31/2010 1:55:58 PM |
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blauefliegen
New Bedford, MA
age: 33
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They just love hating on the Israelis. I'm still waiting to see his responses to your other questions, lol
Are you out of your mind? Oh all the world hates Israel because they are jealous "because they were choosen" so if they were choosen they have the wings to fly like buttefly and others cannot,the world is observing what is happening over there and they are reporting for the history to be facts and evidences
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| 5/31/2010 1:58:27 PM |
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leslie40
Marion, NC
age: 41 online now!
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When all the Armies of the World, gather against the little itty bitty country of Israel, because they hate them. That is when Jesus returns.
My first thought exactly! No doubt which side I'm standing behind. Whoa to the US if they oppose Israel.
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| 5/31/2010 2:03:51 PM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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Face it, they were warned they would be stopped, and when they were they resorted to violence with conveniently hostile medis onboard...and you just cant see through the provocation.
And you forget, Israel is at war, a war declared on her by Arab neighbours like Iran who continue to fight a war through proxy, by arming Hizbollah and Hamas. But by the same token, what gave America the right to blockade Cuba....
Israel has a blockade on Gaza and not only an embargo..
Provocation or not ; the use of deadly force against unarmed civilians is totally unacceptable and is considered war crimes. Israel sooner or later will face the music for its crimes. There are so many,they outdid the nazis.
Why Egypt joined in the blockade... because if it doesn't it risks losing 3 billion $$ in U.S. foreign aid. Not out of conviction that the blockade is necessary but because of pressure from the successive U.S. administrations..it's all economic surviveability for Egypt ..
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| 5/31/2010 2:05:33 PM |
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leo_66
Los Angeles, CA
age: 52
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My first thought exactly! No doubt which side I'm standing behind. Whoa to the US if they oppose Israel.
Christian nutcase  you are..
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| 5/31/2010 2:05:37 PM |
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icuddle
Salem, OR
age: 57
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When you supply terrorists, you become a terrorist, and so are fair game/a legitimate target for anti-terrorist forces. Some people insist upon learning that the hard way.
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