Actually, Japan attacked us in response to our attacking Japan many years earlier...with The Great White Fleet. We sailed into Japan, asked for trading rights, and Japan refused to deal. They preferred to be exclusionist and not have contact with other nations. We responded by shelling villages, killing civilians, etc, until the Japanese government decided to give us the foreign trade we demanded. It took many years for Japan to build up enough industrial might to have a shot at getting revenge on us, and when they had the industry they sought the revenge. We deserved what we got. Still, it was a bit rough on those who died...who were the great grandchildren, or such, of the people who earned the attack.

Actually, Japan attacked us in response to our attacking Japan many years earlier...with The Great White Fleet. We sailed into Japan, asked for trading rights, and Japan refused to deal. They preferred to be exclusionist and not have contact with other nations. We responded by shelling villages, killing civilians, etc, until the Japanese government decided to give us the foreign trade we demanded. It took many years for Japan to build up enough industrial might to have a shot at getting revenge on us, and when they had the industry they sought the revenge. We deserved what we got. Still, it was a bit rough on those who died...who were the great grandchildren, or such, of the people who earned the attack.

why not post in the thread that has been up for a day already about this???
instead of creating a new one?? Did you really not look prior to see if one was up?? Kinda doubt that, you seem like a detail man, just asking

ahhh, so you ignore a direct question, hummm, nor do you even acknowledge the other man's thread, not so much as gee, I'm sorry.... first mistake wasn't a biggie, second is worse, and here we are.....

Kinda makes you look real bad - just saying,

You seem to like to use words, a word master pffft, and you fail to address twice now... ruining our good little community we got going here LOL, you got something against him or myself?? Or is it hard to ....... well, never mind, BB

on topic

---The McCollum Memo:

On October 7, 1940, Lieutenant Commander Arthur McCollum of the Office of Naval Intelligence submitted a memo to Navy Captains Walter Anderson and Dudley Knox (whose endorsement is included in the following scans). Captains Anderson and Knox were two of President Roosevelt's most trusted military advisors.

The [complete] memo, scanned below [link to whatreallyhappened.com] detailed an 8 step plan to provoke Japan into attacking the United States. President Roosevelt, over the course of 1941, implemented all 8 of the recommendations contained in the McCollum memo. Following the eighth provocation, Japan attacked. The public was told that it was a complete surprise, an "intelligence failure", and America entered World War Two.

This memo, which proves that the government of the United States desired to lure Japan into an attack, was declassified in 1994. It took fifty years for the truth about Pearl Harbor to be revealed.

why not post in the thread that has been up for a day already about this???
instead of creating a new one?? Did you really not look prior to see if one was up?? Kinda doubt that, you seem like a detail man, just asking

I think there is a bit of blocking somewhere between the two ops - which would make one's thread invisible to the other op

just saying




(and how could posting a thread about Dec 7 actually destroy ones cred anyway? Just because the OP didnt answer your question? Perhaps he didnt feel like talking to you - or perhaps he didnt see your post. )

We attacked Japan decades before they attacked us. Do enough research and you will see.

??? What has that to do with the topic?

If I was the protypical "Jersey Girl" (Pronounce JOISEY) I wouldn't be able to have a conversation with anyone about anything that didn't involve clothes, hair, and boyfriends. (don't believe me? - go watch "Jersey Shore" or "Jerseylicious")



Most people in New Jersey do not talk like that, act like that, and certainly do not dress like that

really...well maybe your right, but US certainly went to war with ALL Japanese...and it's nothing to laugh about...

Japanese-American internment was the relocation and internment by the United States government in 1942 of approximately 110,000 Japanese Americans and Japanese who lived along the Pacific coast of the United States to camps called "War Relocation Camps," in the wake of Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.[

Even before the Great White Fleet, Admiral Perry's Black Ships Squadron saild into Japan, and shelled the Japanese in order to foce them to sign trade treaties with us. It was the cause of WW2. We did this sort of thing to Japan several times in the 1800s, and Pearl Harbor was their revenge for it.

I didn't know of the "Batten Death March", and there are many things I don't about. But what has that got to do with topic. I was merely being a smart a** because whats his name said something stupid...I mean cmon, putting US japanese civilians in internment is making a move against ALL Japanese. The Japanese putting our captured soldiers through the grinder is to be expected...it seems like your saying that the US doesn't commit war crimes...get real...[/quote)

What was done to Japanese (and Germans by the way) in the US was wrong, and sad, but how dare you compare that to the CRIMES committed on our (and our allies) troops. COME ON!!!!
You need to take a look at some history books!

well, u wish to snub me, no matter what the reason, cause I sure didn't see why...yet you come over and into my thread and speak?? Don't think so, if you wish to be so petty to do this (publicly yet) you just wrote your own ticket. So after you come back and see this, I will block you so I don't have to 'deal' with your ignorant pettiness - unreal.

groan, I unblocked you just so I could email you to be sure you understood, because while you are one crazy mixed up moron, yep, i do care, no one dis-respects me. I see you now are so laughable by trying to bring it down to a personal level and mis-representing what I said (about your post in my thread) you can't even understand what is up (when you think you can get by; by snubbing one and then go in their thread and speak - I did not address you there, and my comment here was to say I wasn't going to permit you to insult or back hand me, even others. You sure have shown you dis-respect women all the time on here. One can see why you are in the fix you are in. AND THEN you try to carry on like someone who thinks people think good of him?? When it is the exact opposite and you can't see the writing on the wall, creepy.

Blue, pffft, I defended you over on the religious thread, about the atheist sign, when someone (2) spoke ill of u, twice, blocked them because they were so rude. Thanks for the return favor, not. You know I didn't do anything wrong here, he did, and then when I admit I may have made a mistake, hahahaaaaaa, (about the thread maybe being a double because that other was someone who had blocked DL...and no surprise there)u remain silent. I am woman enough to point it out, but your buddy shows no class. And, well.... I am going to leave it at that.

NOW, when I tried to block him again, it won't let me, saying I had posted in that person's thread w/in 24 hrs..... so I thought heck, I might as well take advantage and post this prior to blocking him after the time limit is over. Why? Because I can, because jerks deserve to be exposed, maybe they can grow some class where there is none.
But I am done wasting my time here, because there is little hope of that for sure.

eader]Quote from izzynotalone:

I didn't know of the "Batten Death March", and there are many things I don't about. But what has that got to do with topic. I was merely being a smart a** because whats his name said something stupid...I mean cmon, putting US japanese civilians in internment is making a move against ALL Japanese. The Japanese putting our captured soldiers through the grinder is to be expected...it seems like your saying that the US doesn't commit war crimes...get real...[/quote)

What was done to Japanese (and Germans by the way) in the US was wrong, and sad, but how dare you compare that to the CRIMES committed on our (and our allies) troops. COME ON!!!!
You need to take a look at some history books!