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3/31/2009 7:49:45 PM red or white wine  

acire03
Over 1,000 Posts (1,456)
Bethel, CT
age: 25


So, who likes what, red or white? Dry or fruity?

For some strange reason I find the lesser expensive wine tastes better than the very expensive ones. For some reason I hate white wine, unless I'm cooking with it.




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4/1/2009 10:20:03 AM red or white wine  

lakc
Batam
Indonesia
age: 50


I'm a fan of merlot but will try just about anything.

4/1/2009 10:41:26 AM red or white wine  

matt9784
East Northport, NY
age: 25


i love a nice red wine but not to dark and not to light

4/1/2009 3:14:59 PM red or white wine  

wolfyhp
Over 1,000 Posts (1,720)
Atascadero, CA
age: 37 online now!


I much prefer reds and go for the sweeter dinner wines such as zinfandel, petite syrah, pinot noir, Mourvedre, etc. Whites are alright, but I prefer reds. Reds age better (whites don't age at all) and have more character than any white I've had.

As far as whites go, though, I do like white dessert wines such as riesling, muscato, Eiswein, etc. I'll cook with chardonnay or pinot grigio, but for drinking I prefer a red.

4/1/2009 6:00:51 PM red or white wine  

musicdesign
Over 2,000 Posts (3,717)
Rocky Hill, CT
age: 48 online now!


white wine for me. Very fond of Riesling from Washington state.

4/1/2009 6:47:27 PM red or white wine  
alicekathleen
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,642)
Sacramento, CA
age: 64


White in summer, red in winter as a loose rule. There is nothing like sitting at an outdoor cafe at Stinson's Beach
with a plate of oysters on ice and a big glass of white wine the same temperature as the ocean herself!

4/25/2009 9:21:32 AM red or white wine  

hrtofalion
Edmond, OK
age: 58


Wines are not for every palate.

The range varies in whites and reds. It is really what you like and not what someone tells you is best. What you will find in drinking wine is that you may not like a sweeter more fruity wine your friend says is great but may find you like and enjoy a dry citrusy wine.

If you are going to drink wine. INvest in books or surf the web to help you learn to understand wines, regions of growth and productions. Learn to read wine lables. NO, not reading them as I can read but what they mean from the wording on the labels such as, Reserve, Gran [blocked site], Table, Estate Bottled versus grown in and bottled in. It makes a huge difference. Also the ALC % (Example.. 12% or 15.8%) or Alcohol content says something about the wine you are looking to purchase.

I collect wines. All kinds wines. I buy wines from all over the country and many imports. I like all wines for drinking and cooking. Some better than others. Once you understand wines and have tasted a variety of whites and reds and understand what you are experiencing. You will know exactly what wine taste you prefer and will enjoy drinking wines in more places because you don't have to guess what a wine tastes like when ordering from a menu at the restaurant or while browsing in your favorite wine shop. If you do not like the taste of what you purchase. It is not a bargain even if it's free.

I have noted on this site some have said whites do not age at all. Not so true as some do age and actually age better than some reds. However, as a rule. By the time you purchase your whites it is either time to drink them or within the next year or two at the most because the wines already have a year or two aging on them. Many reds do not age long. That is why you need to understand what varieties age well and which ones do not. Otherwise you may loose you investment.

Purchasing wine.
Expensive wine does not mean it is better. I drive to Dallas Texas to get many of the wines in my collection of over 200 bottles in my wine cellar. I have wines from $150.00 a bottle and there are even way more expensive than that. I just refuse to pay that much for something I will drink. I also have many wines I purchased for 10 dollars or less and they are excellent wines. Don't be affraid to try a wine that costs less. Especially from places like Australia Chilean wines and many others. You will be pleasantly suprised.

Subscribe to Wine Enthusiast or Wine Spector. They constantly rate wines and give wine tasting reviews and score the wines on a scale up to 100 points. 100 being the highest. I own several 85 to 90 point wines and paid less then 15 dollars a bottle for them.

Be brave be bold and explore wines. You will love the results.
Many areas and cities have local wine tastings by local Wine Brokers who represent wine Ventners from all over the country and in some cases the world. You try the wines and order and they ship it to the store you tell them to in your neighborhood. I do this often. You pay for it at the Liqour store when it comes in usually. It takes about a week or less.

Learn to store and hold wines if you intend to collect several bottles. REMEMBER - LIGHT, AIR AND HEAT ARE WINES ENEMIES.

Hope this has helped and encourages you to explore wines.

Bill Shipley
Executive Chef

4/28/2009 10:12:49 AM red or white wine  

nitecaller
Over 2,000 Posts (3,127)
Edmonton, AB
age: 47


in yrs past it was red wine red meat, white meat white wine,
now you can just kick back and have what ever you like the only rule now
is if you cook with it then you should serve it kind adds a food note to your meal
i still like a nice med red when eating bbq,but its better with a light ale

5/24/2009 6:17:42 AM red or white wine  

lefty247
Swartz Creek, MI
age: 62


The reds are known to be better for you in terms of health benefits, in moderation.

I'm fond of J. Lohr Cabernet Sauvingon, but usually have to age it as the vintage 2007 are now the only ones available. I wait for the sale & can find it for $14 a bottle. I'll store it for a couple more years & then it should be very good.

Generally, whites & blushes are served at 40°, reds at 60°.

5/25/2009 7:59:59 AM red or white wine  

wolfyhp
Over 1,000 Posts (1,720)
Atascadero, CA
age: 37 online now!


Quote from lefty247:
The reds are known to be better for you in terms of health benefits, in moderation.

I'm fond of J. Lohr Cabernet Sauvingon, but usually have to age it as the vintage 2007 are now the only ones available. I wait for the sale & can find it for $14 a bottle. I'll store it for a couple more years & then it should be very good.

Generally, whites & blushes are served at 40°, reds at 60°.



Hey, a local wine, cool. (local to here.) J. Lohr does make good wine. There are a lot of good wines from California's Napa and Paso Robles wine regions. I'm not too fond of Cab Sauv, but I have had others agree with you that J. Lohr makes a particularly good one. I probably have a bottle or two around here somewhere.

I've heard it's 60 degrees for reds, but I know some reds I prefer slightly closer to room temp than that. It depends on the red. Zinfandels have to be room temp for me (and I don't drink white zin.)

5/25/2009 9:47:45 AM red or white wine  

lefty247
Swartz Creek, MI
age: 62


Quote from wolfyhp:
Hey, a local wine, cool. (local to here.) J. Lohr does make good wine. There are a lot of good wines from California's Napa and Paso Robles wine regions. I'm not too fond of Cab Sauv, but I have had others agree with you that J. Lohr makes a particularly good one. I probably have a bottle or two around here somewhere.

I've heard it's 60 degrees for reds, but I know some reds I prefer slightly closer to room temp than that. It depends on the red. Zinfandels have to be room temp for me (and I don't drink white zin.)


I guess it would depend on how cold your room is? It's usually 80+° here in July & Aug> I live on the 2nd floor. And funny too, when you say you like zinfandel, most people automatically think, white zin> which is really pink.

Do you of any other brands from your area that are distributed outside your region?

5/25/2009 2:18:44 PM red or white wine  

wolfyhp
Over 1,000 Posts (1,720)
Atascadero, CA
age: 37 online now!


Quote from lefty247:
I guess it would depend on how cold your room is? It's usually 80+° here in July & Aug> I live on the 2nd floor. And funny too, when you say you like zinfandel, most people automatically think, white zin> which is really pink.

Do you of any other brands from your area that are distributed outside your region?



Several. Some of the better ones are Castoro Cellars, Tablas Creek, EOS (also under the Novella label which is their higher end wines, also Lost Angel and Mischief are new ones) those are my favorites. We have several wineries around here (hundreds actually) but I'm not sure which other ones sell in stores outside the region. As far as port, if you like port, see if you can find an EOS port. For a cab sauv, look for their Novella cabernet sauvignon. 2003 was a great year for EOS/Novella if you can find it, but they're all good.

Yeah, I know everyone thinks white zin when I mention zin, not sure why. I guess it's more popular. I don't care for it much at all. Good regular zinfandel is godly though.


By room temp I just mean the standard 72 degrees (usually what a recipe means when it says room temp.) I wish my room was that temp in the summer, but it's not. I certainly don't want 80 or 90 degree wine.

5/25/2009 7:32:54 PM red or white wine  

lburfar
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,539)
Hale, MO
age: 49


i have to say i am a fan of riverboat red

5/27/2009 5:10:58 PM red or white wine  

acire03
Over 1,000 Posts (1,456)
Bethel, CT
age: 25


If you like red wine try Red Rock, it's a merlot from California. My cousins were NOT merlot fans until they tried this one!

5/27/2009 5:31:51 PM red or white wine  
uke2
Jensen Beach, FL
age: 62


Try the 2003 white zinfandel from Parducc1..... killer.

5/27/2009 5:44:25 PM red or white wine  
uke2
Jensen Beach, FL
age: 62


Wolfy, you mentioned Eiswein is that the german riesling, they pick after the first frost?

5/27/2009 11:26:46 PM red or white wine  

wolfyhp
Over 1,000 Posts (1,720)
Atascadero, CA
age: 37 online now!


Quote from uke2:
Wolfy, you mentioned Eiswein is that the german riesling, they pick after the first frost?



I've only drank it, not really sure too much about it, but that sounds like how it was described to me.

5/29/2009 6:29:43 AM red or white wine  

excalibur19
Port Huron, MI
age: 54


Drink what you like.
having been in the business I tell people that a good quality wine should cost no more than $10.00 but of course that was 10 years a go.
I prefer the new austrailians and locale state grown such as NY and MI wines
Box wines are popular,cheap and belive me most of the upscale people I know drink the box wines which are fine and still leave me with a headache as well as a $ 20 bottle.

6/18/2009 10:40:48 PM red or white wine  
beardaddy
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,616)
Middleburg, FL
age: 46


red , white it dont matter to me i am italian we drink it all.. hey if we drink enough we bathe in it too lol... you have to love wine it is good for all that ails you if you are in a bad mood drink you will be in a good mood soon... remember it comes from the root of us all thats mother earth so it cant be bad

papabearcheers

6/19/2009 8:35:10 AM red or white wine  

wolfyhp
Over 1,000 Posts (1,720)
Atascadero, CA
age: 37 online now!


Quote from excalibur19:
Drink what you like.
having been in the business I tell people that a good quality wine should cost no more than $10.00 but of course that was 10 years a go.
I prefer the new austrailians and locale state grown such as NY and MI wines
Box wines are popular,cheap and belive me most of the upscale people I know drink the box wines which are fine and still leave me with a headache as well as a $ 20 bottle.



You can still get a decent bottle of wine for around $10, but $20 is the norm for good wine around here. (of course, this is wine country as I've mentioned.) I know plenty of people who drink box wines. I also know several who don't drink it, but use it for cooking. I would rather not drink or use wine than to drink or use any box wine I've ever tasted. Of course, it's all a matter of opinion and taste is very individual. I used to think I hated wine until I tried good wine. I love good wine.


Yes, they all have alcohol, most have sulfites and all will give some people a headache if that's what you're seeking. (for some it's the sulfites, for others it's just plain dehydration.)



[Edited 6/19/2009 8:35:37 AM PST]

6/21/2009 8:50:29 AM red or white wine  
1girliegirl
Philadelphia, PA
age: 90


I started drinking more red wine when "they" said it's better for you. But I have no real preference.

I like fruity, sweeter wines. My favorite is one I discovered when I lived in Virginia. The winery is called Chateau Morrisette. The Sweet Mountain Laurel (white) and Red Mountain Laurel are SO good! I order it online now.

There's a white zinfandel that I've become very fond of recently called Barefoot.

10/4/2009 8:23:06 PM red or white wine  

sugrnspice2
Port Saint Lucie, FL
age: 54


I like both reds and whites. I lean towards the California wines probably because I've been to San Francisco and the wine country some 15 times.

The last time I was there I ended up leaving early because of an emergency and had to skip my wine tour/tastings. Stopped by Backroom Wines in Napa and met the owner Dan. I usually pick and choose for myself on my own tour each time and take home wines that never make it to the stores much less here in Florida. This time I couldn't.

After telling him my likes and dislikes in tastes I let him choose a case of various wines for me. I am forever in his debt! He introduced me to a now all time favorite winery T-Vine. Small but ohhh soooo wonderful. I also am subscribed to his new letters where you can read his reviews on new wines coming out etc.

No... I am not an advertisement.. but I trusted him with a lot of money in a case of good wines and he wasn't wrong!

As a few of the others said, you have to try different wines to find out what you like and don't like, read the labels even if it's only to see what flavors (notes) are there. Me, I don't like tobacco, mint, earth, leather, ....anyhow...if the bottle reads those, I put it back.

If you don't drink anything but what's on sale, you'll never know the difference in a good wine or a bad one, or just won't care.

I remember one time my girlfriend decided she wanted a few bottles of good wines as I had been trying to enlighten her a bit at a time on savoring instead of chugging it down. A case I had ordered had just been delivered. She wanted to open and drink it right then and there. I said no. It just came across country and needs to settle down first! Nope, she wanted to open it now. OK..go ahead, its your bottle. I took one of mine and opened it and let it sit for over a couple of hours. We drank hers first. It was good but. Later I went and poured two glasses from my bottle of the same wine and gave it to her.

OMG! she said. This is awesome! It can't be the same wine. Well duh....

now she listens.. LOL!!!

But....I am always learning.... always open for suggestions on a new one to try!!

If any of you have favorites ..please let me know!!

10/5/2009 9:15:00 PM red or white wine  

joaquin_stick
Over 2,000 Posts (2,435)
Lexington, MI
age: 56


Give me Italian, fruit-forward wines like Sangiovese or Chianti. I'm a big fan of sparklers--Veuve Cliquot's both vintage and non-vintage and also like some of the California bubblies that have a decent amount of Pinot Noir grape in them or the Spanish Cava's that run under $15.00 a bottle...

10/6/2009 11:11:24 AM red or white wine  

wolfyhp
Over 1,000 Posts (1,720)
Atascadero, CA
age: 37 online now!


Quote from joaquin_stick:
Give me Italian, fruit-forward wines like Sangiovese or Chianti. I'm a big fan of sparklers--Veuve Cliquot's both vintage and non-vintage and also like some of the California bubblies that have a decent amount of Pinot Noir grape in them or the Spanish Cava's that run under $15.00 a bottle...



I like most of the wines from California. At the symphony recently I had a California Cabernet Sauvignon that was excellent and it's not usually one of my favorite grapes. As I've said before, I prefer Pinot Noir (but not bubbly) Petit Syrah and Zinfandel and a couple others. We have excellent wines of all those varieties around here. Can't find a good Barbera here though.



[Edited 10/6/2009 11:12:30 AM PST]

10/8/2009 5:14:22 PM red or white wine  
shelli63
Greenbrier, AR
age: 47


neither, vodka and fruit juice''

10/8/2009 6:20:54 PM red or white wine  

sugrnspice2
Port Saint Lucie, FL
age: 54


Quote from shelli63:
neither, vodka and fruit juice''


than I take that to be a "rose"?? lol!

10/13/2009 4:28:04 PM red or white wine  

bethmcbeth
Boca Raton, FL
age: 48


I prefer red wines over white, but will occasionally have a Pinot Grigio or Sauvignon Blanc if the weather is warm and, I'm feeling warm...then a chilled glass of white is nice...even a Chardonnay.

I prefer Malbec's, (Los Cardos), Pinot Noir's (La Crema) and, I enjoy the Cabernet (J. Lohr, Seven Oaks).

I also love this Chilean wine called, Root One.

Raising a glass to all of you wine lovers...

~~Beth~~

10/14/2009 11:00:11 AM red or white wine  
marigale
Winter Haven, FL
age: 50


Beth: I knew I would find you here. Where's Hallie?

Red or white wine??? I am not much of a wine drinker but on the few occassions that I have drank it I have to say I prefer white. Can't even think of the name of the one I really liked.

Can I have a beer while I think about it?


10/14/2009 1:41:40 PM red or white wine  
oletafive
Over 2,000 Posts (2,914)
Rattan, OK
age: 63


O"Boy what a thread--Wine, Want a little wine? Don't pay her.
OOps that just slipped out. (I was saving that for my next tip at McDonald's).
Wine has no class. If it tastes good guzzle it. Some wine may help your heart some your stomach. Did you now some wines get rid of headaches? There are many people who wound up pregnant from a good tasty wine. Be careful out there you won't find that on the label.
Red wines--Hearty Burgundy and Bordeaux can easily be substituted, try Thunderbird and Ol' Sly Fox. (If you are a wino totally without taste-buds).
Sincerely--If you like those you might try a bottle of muscatel or Boon's Farm.
Now lets face it--If you can drink that then here is a tip--Get a bottle of Ever Clear and mix it 15 to 1 with concord grape juice. Voila.(you won't even know the difference).
As for me? Well yes I just knew you were going to ask that.
A good Pinot Noir or Johannisberg Riesling, maybe a nice Chardonnay. If I were able to afford it I would certainly enjoy a glass(Bottle) of Beaujolais Nouveau.
Just for the heck of it why don't you try a little Italian wine say--Friuli–Venezia Giulia. Then if you want to go back to your Boon's Farm, go ahead. (Hot from the oven French slices with a nice Brie will help you enjoy any of the above (except Sly Fox--Best to have an empty stomach for that one).
Enjoy what you drink or don't drink it.
--=05=--

10/14/2009 4:08:01 PM red or white wine  

justjimster
West Chicago, IL
age: 62


I like a red zin,cab, noir or that wine from Portugal,Maratos? That's old school wine as many of my old Italian neighbors made a red zin,Chianti, and wine vinegar.

Now with a good meal, and that beautiful brunette woman with the long dark hair from Boca,that would be divine!



[Edited 10/14/2009 4:12:26 PM PST]

10/14/2009 9:17:11 PM red or white wine  
laidbackandfun
Havelock, NC
age: 43


merlot, pinot noir, and chardonay

10/15/2009 1:54:36 PM red or white wine  
leona813
Palm Beach, FL
age: 56


I love red wines (as some know) and agree 100% with hrtofalion's (Executive Chef Bill Shipley) advice as a matter of course to learn what your tastes are and your tastebuds prefer.

I've gone back and forth through different phases as to preference. Going to wine tastings, reading magazines, etc., all helped! There is so much to learn and it can seem daunting, but the purpose is to taste many different wines to learn what you do and don't like.

I also agree it doesn't have to be expensive and cost is no guarantee. Very rarely do I spring for anything over $15. On occasion I did and usually felt it wasn't worth it. Wish I could experiment with the more expensive wines.

Sometimes I'd lean towards Chilean, Australian, Californian, or Italian. Lately it's a California Cab. Full-bodied reds with a smooth finish are my preference. Spoilage can happen fast, as hrto said, if not stored properly.

Sometimes a cool crisp white like pinot grigio, sauvignon blanc or Chardonnay is nice too, but I don't like them too sweet or too fruity.

There is nothing like sitting at an outdoor cafe at Stinson's Beach
with a plate of oysters on ice and a big glass of white wine the same temperature as the ocean herself!

That does sound lovely alicekathleen!

No jokes please about screw tops and boxed wines, pleeeeaasseeeee!!!!!!




[Edited 10/15/2009 1:59:55 PM PST]

10/15/2009 2:57:31 PM red or white wine  

simplynancy
Palm Bay, FL
age: 46


I love RED wines, merlots are nice. I prefer a dry wine. If it is too sweet, the sugar gets me feeling sick.

In upstate NY along the finger lakes they have a lot of local wineries. They grow their own grapes and make their own wines. It is treat for me when I am visting my sister, to drive up along the wineries and go wine tasting. Nice thing is you can bring your kids, and they serve them homemade grape juices. Unfortunatley they can not sell their wines outside of NY State, not sure why but I do know the wineries have been trying to sell out of state for a long time. My sister always brings me a couple of my favorites when she visits.

I get in different moods, sometimes I like California wines, sometimes Italian. The Italian wines always seem to be my favorite.

10/15/2009 3:13:34 PM red or white wine  

julymorning07
Over 1,000 Posts (1,626)
Saint James, MO
age: 57 online now!


Quote from lburfar:
i have to say i am a fan of riverboat red


Les Bourgeois Vineyards! I became acquainted with their wines at a 'Made in Missouri' affair in Boonville a year or so ago.
I love their Concorde.

My wine tastes change as often as my moods. My budget won't let me spend more than $10 a bottle but that's been just fine with all the wineries we have in Missouri.

10/15/2009 5:22:49 PM red or white wine  
oletafive
Over 2,000 Posts (2,914)
Rattan, OK
age: 63


Come on ladies, get adventurous and try a nice fruity Sangria or Mateus (Portugal), Maybe try a nice Sol-air from Sebastiani in Sonoma. (I really like their Johannesburg Riesling). Chianti is always welcome at my house. And I won't turn my nose up at a good Liebfraumilch either, (Nice and cold after being buried in the snow hidden on the ski slopes for that rest break in the trees).
--=05=--

10/16/2009 7:31:08 AM red or white wine  

trippy_hare
Over 1,000 Posts (1,612)
Arvada, CO
age: 27


For casual drinking, I prefer red- a merlot or vino tinto. Also great after a big, heavy meal.

White doesn't really do it for me, though I'll have a riesling with fish or chicken (so long as there's no tomato sauce anywhere- white wine and tomato is WAY too acidic for me).

My all-time favorite wine EVER is Black Muscatto, from Half Moon Bay CA. That's damn good stuff- a dessert wine that's sweet and fruity, but also light and refreshing. Yum!

My second favorite- and my most commonly quaffed- is Sangre de Toro, a Spanish vino tinto bottled by Torres. It's potent, but not knock-you-on-your-ass potent. About 10 bucks a bottle, good enough to take to a dinner party, affordable enough to drink alone.

10/16/2009 7:35:48 AM red or white wine  
leona813
Palm Beach, FL
age: 56


You bring up an interesting thought oldatfive. I HAVE tried Chianti and Reisling (it's been ages since I had Sangria) but I learned that there's as many different qualities and flavors of Chianti as there is almost wines. I love Chianti but not just ANY Chianti, it has to meet the criteria of my taste, which is full-bodied and smooth, no tartness, flatness or dullness, but those with a richer flavor. Same thing with Reislings, some are very sweet, some are more crisp and dry, so it would depend on WHICH Reisling!

One night I was out with a friend who rarely drinks and I suggested she try the Reisling and I was right, she liked it very much!

I've probably never had a DECENT Sangria and by that I mean a true quality Sangria, that would be nice to experience along with your other suggestions. That's another neat thing about wine (and beer on the other thread), it could take a lifetime to sample all the choices available.



[Edited 10/16/2009 7:41:49 AM PST]

10/16/2009 3:46:01 PM red or white wine  
oletafive
Over 2,000 Posts (2,914)
Rattan, OK
age: 63


I am a bit partial to Yago.

10/16/2009 7:02:25 PM red or white wine  
leona813
Palm Beach, FL
age: 56


ole, you're a Native American Christian who doesn't drink! Now is Yago?

OK google is my friend.

I'd say red or white, depending on one's mood, and the food, I'm not picky!



[Edited 10/16/2009 7:09:30 PM PST]

10/16/2009 11:22:37 PM red or white wine  

erikadances
Baltimore, MD
age: 48


Chateau St. Jean Sonoma County Reserve Chardonnay

10/17/2009 2:54:12 AM red or white wine  
oletafive
Over 2,000 Posts (2,914)
Rattan, OK
age: 63


Yes I am a Native American who doesn't drink now. I now have type two diabetes. Wine was my passion and liquors are wonderful. I was raised in the Sonoma Valley where my very first job was cutting grapes for the Sebastiani Winery in down town Sonoma. I was raised on wine from all parts of the world by people who knew wine well. I am one of the fortunate few who is not prone to becoming an alcoholic but developed an appreciation for the flavor and ambiance of different tastes. I can still remember the light swizzle of a fine Rose or the tingly release of flavor from a good Brute. I had a fine wine cellar of my own and enough liquors to host some really great gatherings. You are the people I now talk to. I don't have to actually drink to drink--A virtual party-- so here is a virtual toast of a great Alvarinho, Salude.
--=05=--

Edit: Yago is a Sangria (Yago Sant'gria), Spanish. Very full bodied, very sweet, and very fruity. It has a dark color, a pleasant aftertaste, and can easily be mistaken for a low-alcohol wine.
It is very good with spicy foods.



[Edited 10/17/2009 3:09:56 AM PST]

10/17/2009 5:49:27 AM red or white wine  
leona813
Palm Beach, FL
age: 56


I'm so sorry ole! You had such a wonderful experience and at least you have the memories, but it must be painful at times not to be able to enjoy so many wines and other things you know you love. Your input HAS made me want to adventure some more, thanks.




[Edited 10/17/2009 5:50:36 AM PST]

10/17/2009 6:38:43 AM red or white wine  
kievannie
Sarasota, FL
age: 58


Quote from leona813:

I've probably never had a DECENT Sangria.


Hallie, by FAR, the BEST "Sangria" I have EVER had is at the Columbia Restaurant in Sarasota on St.Armands Circle! I should have mentioned it to you when you were in Sarasota!!!

There are 'those' who would advocate that some of these wines are not TRUE Red wines..............or I guess more 'accurately' that they are BLENDS!! These are the 'purists' among us!! (I'm NOT one of them).....One of my favorites is Banfi's Col de Sasso (a blend of Cabernet and Sangiovese')

10/17/2009 9:44:18 AM red or white wine  

bethmcbeth
Boca Raton, FL
age: 48


Hi Leslie...

Hallie, if you like Sangria..
Have you ever been to the restaurant, "La Bamba"?
They are in Coconut Creek off of 441 and Sample Road in the Peppertree Plaza.
They will bring you a 1/2 or a full carafe of Sangria with fruit, but ask for no ice or you will have less Sangria in the carafe. Just ask for a glass of ice if you like to pour over ice.

It is truly delicious as well as the food there...food is also very reasonable.

~~Beth~~

10/17/2009 2:20:56 PM red or white wine  
oletafive
Over 2,000 Posts (2,914)
Rattan, OK
age: 63


Thank you,
I am blessed with a good life as I have been blessed with a good life. As we grow more mature, like a good wine, we acquire character, some will have great character and others will have bad character but for most it will be the $3 bottle with no character.
My memories give me peaceful nights and joyful days. My hopes give me a fire to still seek that meaningful adventure which makes life so wonderful. Have a Sherry, like you all it is sweet also.
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10/17/2009 9:53:52 PM red or white wine  
leona813
Palm Beach, FL
age: 56


ole!

Even though I normally prefer reds, for some reason this week I've been drinking whites, and not only that, branching out from pinot grigio to Chardonnay. No big deal but seems I'm not getting the opportunity at the places I go to, to really experiment, because now it's whatever's on special, the happy hour house wine, how adventurous is that?



So, it takes effort to explore deeper terrain. Must keep that in mind!

10/18/2009 5:53:35 AM red or white wine  
oletafive
Over 2,000 Posts (2,914)
Rattan, OK
age: 63


The adventure is is in the excitement--A trip to Wal-Mart is not an adventure unless something happens to make the trip unusual--An Elephant is in the road, for example. (Don't laugh at that one--our Wal-Mart is in Hugo, a circus town where just recently a Lion escaped).
The casual wine you order may be a skunk or a lion. Both are adventures. If you don't already have one, get a little notebook that you can put in your purse then note the wine you try and rate it according to your taste. You will easily know what to order when you are out with that special somebody on a true adventure.
Now here is an adventure for you--
.Viognier (pronounced Vee-on-yay)
In 1965 only a miserable eight hectares of Viognier (pronounced Vee-on-yay) grape existed in its Northern Rhône homeland appellation of Condrieu.
Amazing, since some believe the grape had grown here for at least 2000 years, possibly transported to the Rhône from its birthplace in Dalmatia by the Romans.
Please tell me what it is like--
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10/18/2009 7:19:10 PM red or white wine  
leona813
Palm Beach, FL
age: 56


ole, I can quite proudly say, I went to an ABC wine store tasting a few years ago and did their blind tasting test. They covered the bottles with paper bags and gave you multiple choice. I came in either second or third, and Voignier was one of the ones I guessed correctly!

IMO a unique French white, sort of like Chardonnary but more distinctive?

I was way off on the pronunciation!



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10/19/2009 6:58:10 AM red or white wine  

wolfyhp
Over 1,000 Posts (1,720)
Atascadero, CA
age: 37 online now!


My roommate just brought home a case of something called "Petit Nouveau" made by his winery, EOS Estate in Paso Robles, CA. It's a Petit Syrah made in the style of beaujolais nouveau. The wine is taken from the skins early so it's almost a rose or blush color, but there's no white grapes added. (For those who are unaware, it's the skins of the red grapes that give red wine its primary deep red color. The longer the skins are left in, the more of the color of the grape they pick up during fermenting.) It's fermented in low temperature barrels and spends very little time in the tank. It's made under the EOS Estate label as a reserve (they also have the Novella label and a couple others.)

It's odd for a red in that it's supposed to be drank right after it gets over bottle shock (2 weeks after bottling roughly) and within a year of purchase. It's not one which ages. You're supposed to drink it slightly chilled. The makers say it's a fruity wine, kinda sweet. I'm intrigued to try it as I love petit syrah.

We haven't opened a bottle yet because he brought home the 2009 and we want to give it a few weeks to make sure it's over bottle shock.



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10/19/2009 2:16:36 PM red or white wine  
oletafive
Over 2,000 Posts (2,914)
Rattan, OK
age: 63


Yah those Frenchies never could spell.
The wine is OK though.
Japan is not known for it's wine and in the past clandestinely blended wine from other countries and called it their own. Not any more---
Now look for this one:
Rubaiyat Koshu Sur Lie 2007 From one of the oldest wineries in Japan, Rubaiyat, is dry, fresh and fruity wine made with 100-percent Koshu grapes. Sur lie means "on the lees," and is a method where yeast sediment is kept in the wine barrel rather than being removed. This is done by draining off the wine into another barrel, a process known as racking. Before Koshu was made with this method, almost all wines made with the grape were rather sweet.
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10/20/2009 8:06:51 PM red or white wine  
leona813
Palm Beach, FL
age: 56


Tonite I'm having Chardonnay and this just made me think of the song by Billy Joel: a bottle of red, a bottle of white, it all depends upon your appetite....(Scenes from an Italian Restaurant). And with that, good nite to all, and to all, a good nite.

I've seen some know how to insert youtube videos here but haven't learned how to do that yet.



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11/8/2009 10:34:36 PM red or white wine  

bethmcbeth
Boca Raton, FL
age: 48


oletafive: Have you ever heard of Amarone? I have a bottle of it that was considered ON SALE that I bought for $19.99, but haven't opened it as of yet.
Was just curious if you knew about it or have tasted any to give a critique on.

Also, something interesting was told to me by a wine salesman and, it has me puzzled.

I've been seeing a lot of wines coming with twist off tops. I really prefer wines that have a cork to remove, but he informed me that most wines will be switching over to the
twist off type.

Is there a cork shortage or something?

Was wondering if you might like to address this as well.

Thank you,
~~Beth~~

11/15/2009 6:09:38 PM red or white wine  

bethmcbeth
Boca Raton, FL
age: 48


This past weekend I had the opportunity to have copious amounts of various red wines
and plenty of laughter with friends which led me to this search that I found and wanted
to share with this thread:

"Laughter and red wine are the keys to longevity"

Chromosomes get damaged as we age, and the SIR1 proteins can’t handle both jobs as well.

The Harvard scientists have found evidence that the aging process can be slowed. They discovered that mice with more SIRT1 proteins have an improved ability to repair the DNA and to prevent the unwanted changes in the gene expressions.

The magic bullet is resveratrol, a chemical found primarily in red wine, which helps to activate the SIRT1 protein, which aids in the repair of broken chromosome.

The studies showed that resveratrol also found in the crust of peanuts and walnuts, in grapes, peanut butter, pistachios and other foods seemed to ward off the effect of age on heart, bones, eyes and muscles of mice, improving conditions such as cataracts, osteoporosis and poor motor coordination, conditions that are also making the elderly frail.

The chemical reduces the onset of degenerative diseases of aging, such as Alzheimer’s.



Hope this is found of interest and sheds some light on drinking red wine and its benefits.
Let's NOT forget laughter along with it!

~~Beth~~

11/16/2009 6:20:03 AM red or white wine  
oletafive
Over 2,000 Posts (2,914)
Rattan, OK
age: 63


Hi Beth,
I know about Amarone but I have not tasted it. I do know it is a newer Italian wine that is kinda dry and slightly bitter after taste. Some people like it. I would suggest a sharp or pungent cheese on herb bread to highlight and soften the character.
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11/16/2009 7:11:43 AM red or white wine  
oletafive
Over 2,000 Posts (2,914)
Rattan, OK
age: 63


Yes but the Harvard guy forgot to mention the amount of red wine needed to achieve significant results is just a little too hard on your liver. I will wait until they have refined the process a little (But I will probably be dead by then).
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Estate Toucanet

Mutage d' esprit - Sweet Dessert Wine

(Toucan Vineyard, Zinfandel & Petite Sirah)

It is tasty and hard to find, I got a taste last night (yes I know bad for my diabetes but only one glass). I tried to resist, honest.









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