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| 11/15/2007 6:18:21 PM |
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ollieottis
Traverse City, MI
age: 57 online now!
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I have a dual boot computer.xp and freespire.my dialup works with xp but not freespire.so am i right to assume that i would need a hardware modem for linux?
thanks.
dan
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| 11/15/2007 7:16:28 PM |
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phucq
Panama City, FL
age: 65
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By hardware modem, do you mean an external modem, as opposed to the internal modem in the computer? All modems are hardware modems. What you need is the correct Linux dirver for whatever modem you happen to have. Not all modems have a Linux driver, so you might have to buy a new modem if you can't find a Linux driver for the modem you have now.
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| 11/15/2007 10:22:06 PM |
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ollieottis
Traverse City, MI
age: 57 online now!
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ok -thanks.
what i meant by hardware modem is not a win-modem..i think that what i have is probobly the win modem..
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| 11/17/2007 6:05:45 AM |
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phucq
Panama City, FL
age: 65
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I'm not sure what you mean by a "win modem". A modem is not operating system specific, it's hardware platform specific, i.e., PC Vs Mac. It's the modem driver which enables the operating system, i.e., Windows, to talk to the modem. Without the correct driver to create the proper software interface between the OS and the modem, nothing happens.
You could also have Linux configuration issues, if you're using a Linux GUI, rather than the command line mode, then there may be additional GUI configuration issues. As a test, you could try issuing initialization commands drectly to the modem in the Linux command line mode.
What puzzles me is that the computer was apparently shipped to you as a dual boot machine with both operating systems preinstalled, and a modem installed. Therefore, one would assume that the machine would already contain the proper drivers for the modem in both the Windows and Linux partitions and have the modem preconfigured in both OSes. I recommend that you get back to the people who sold you the machine and ask them why Linux does not operate your modem. They may talk you through a Linux modem configuration, send you the correct driver, or direct you to a web site where you can download the missing driver. It could even be as simple as them telling you how to enter command line initialization strings to the modem.
If for some reason the driver is missing, then you will have to: 1. Boot up under Windows 2. Find a Linux driver for your modem on the Web 3. Download the correct Linux driver for your modem 4. Save it on a CD or thumb drive 5. Reboot under Linux 6. Copy the modem driver to the appropriate place in Linux 7. Reboot Linux and configure the modern.
In the interest of full disclosure, I should tell you that while I've used Linux, I'm not a Linux expert. Linux is not nearly as user friendly as Windows. Others on here may be able to offer you more specific advice concerning Linux. I've only given you the general steps to follow, and background information which applies to all computers and modems.
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| 11/17/2007 7:04:14 PM |
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ollieottis
Traverse City, MI
age: 57 online now!
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ph--thanks for the reply..I installed both xp and linux myself.The thing is ,i had cable modem when i installed linux, and downloaded linux so it set the ethernet as the one to use and worked fine.I now have dial up, and found that only place for modem driver is the site for downloading programs for the linux.So i am just going to wait till i get cable internet going again.
I like linux for the web but for now the xp will work ok.
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| 11/17/2007 8:30:37 PM |
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qazyguy
Rockville, MD
age: 50
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It's too bad the Edit button lasts only a day. Phucq needs to erase his posts.
A Win-Modem is really just a hardware interface around the phone line; the software needs to actually generate the waveform, and thus you need a driver specific to each modem.
With a real, hardware modem you just send characters out the serial ports. No driver needed, other than the serial driver, which is standard.
There are drivers for win-modems. Follow Phucq's directions for downloading under windows.
I used make a small FAT32 partition so I can move files between the two OSes.
Regular modems are bad enough, but win-modems are an abomination!
JIM
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| 11/19/2007 3:40:01 AM |
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phucq
Panama City, FL
age: 65
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Sorry, I didn't understand all the details. I ASSumed from your original post that this computer was purchased as a turnkey dual-boot system with both operating systems and the appropriate dial-up modem pre-installed.
Gazy, it is true that the complexity of internal modems has decreased drastically over the years, with more of the burden being shifted to Windows, but the phone line interface is still hardware, making the term "hardware modem" meaningless in my opinion. The point I was trying to make is that an external serial modem should be called an external modem, or a serial modem, not a hardware modem.
[Edited 11/19/2007 5:30:47 AM]
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| 11/19/2007 7:37:00 PM |
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ollieottis
Traverse City, MI
age: 57 online now!
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if i run acrost a good deal on a ext modem ,i might give it a try..thanks for all the help
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| 11/20/2007 3:31:50 PM |
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qazyguy
Rockville, MD
age: 50
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A Real Hardware Modem takes characters from a Serial Interface, and a microporcessor inside the modem shifts off the bits and generates the sqeaks and squawks that we are all familiar with. The computer is not even aware that the modem exists; it could be directly connected to annother computer or a dumb terminal.
With a WinModem, the computer has to generate the waveform itself; it has to do the same job that the processor inside the modem does. In other words, your compter has to provide the Software to run the Modem and it is very much aware that it exists.
JIM
P.S. Few systems are sold dual boot, altho some Linux vendors will but from bigger OEMs, shrink the Windows partition down (you paid for it anyway) and add Linux as a second system.
P.P.S. There are no good deals on modems of any kind. For twice the price of dialup, you get cable, which runs at at least 60 times the speed. Hours downloading turn into minutes. Dialup is just A Bad Deal.
[Edited 11/20/2007 3:33:44 PM]
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| 11/20/2007 4:48:15 PM |
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ollieottis
Traverse City, MI
age: 57 online now!
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i agree that cable is much better,i had cable when i put linux on computer.I am staying with mother, while waiting for disability , so dial up will be all i have for a while.I have a ext modem coming (serial hookup)so i should be all right.
Once i have money coming in again,i plan on traveling,so i will be getting into a laptop and wifi, so i probobly wount go to cable then either.
Anyway thanks for your replies.
Dan
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