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9/14/2009 5:04:54 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


I know im not the only person to have seen this!!? After reading revelations and other books of the bible it has became clear to me. A set number of people to live in heaven, and the rest to inherit the earth. My question is have anyone uncovered this? seen this in the bible? heard about it from a friend maybe? All comments are welcome.. oh yea we all have our own views about Heaven, Hell and so on.... I just want to know some of your viewpoints

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9/14/2009 5:09:24 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

kinkycapitalist
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age: 55


That's a thousand times Gross!





9/14/2009 5:17:45 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


Yeah and not only that, its 144,000 males who have not been "defiled" with women. That means all you daddys out there are bound for hell. Nope. God has his heart set on saving 144,000 gay, Jewish males apparently.

The irony is only too beautiful...God can be real funny that way.

9/14/2009 5:19:35 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
dunrich2
Over 2,000 Posts (3,316)
Brantford, ON
age: 55


The 144 thousand is the number of evangelists, that go to israel during the Tribulation, to encourage Jews to convert to Christianity.

The Jehovhas have miss used thie, claiming there is only room in Heaven for that number. LOL, when they went over it with church members, the new 'policy is , the extras over and above 144,00 will inherit the earth.

LOL, it doesnt say they are Gay.



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9/14/2009 5:20:35 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
scorpiomover
London
United Kingdom
age: 40


I haven't personally seen this. But I think it's saying that in the end days, only 144,000 people will be genuinely good people, and the rest will be saying they are good, but doing all sorts of nasty stuff in private.

9/14/2009 5:27:32 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


Well Im glad we are all on the same page with this because its not as if the bible is never ambiguous or anything...

9/14/2009 5:30:17 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
dunrich2
Over 2,000 Posts (3,316)
Brantford, ON
age: 55


The 144,000 refers to the Jews who convert, from each of the 12 tribes.

There are many more than 144,000 though Rev 7;9

"YLT After these things I saw, and lo, a great multitude, which to number no one was able, out of all nations, and tribes, and peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne, and before the Lamb, arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands,"

9/14/2009 5:40:56 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
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Union, NH
age: 37


Yeah but thats not what the JW think. They believe that there are two distinct classes of believers: the 144,000 "Anointed" that are going to heaven and the "Great Crowd" that will remain here on earth. They teach that heaven closed in 1935 , and that everyone else will either be killed at Armageddon (if they are not JWs) or live forever on earth.



And Im pretty sure the "Anointed" ones are gay Jews...



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9/14/2009 6:41:54 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


Yeah, Ive been doing alittle research, reading up on death. and @ the end of my studies it brought me to the question of, where do people go when they die? Heaven or Hell. I Believe in God so Its no shock to say that i believe in the bible and after reading thru a few books of the bible it clear, atleast to me that not all of us are suppose to go to heaven.
Revelation 5:9-10 That the 144,000 are priests to God and will rule over the earth. you gotta check this out!

9/14/2009 6:45:03 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

kinkycapitalist
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,600)
Atlanta, GA
age: 55


Will all the Martyrs share the one set of 72 virgins or will a thousand martrys have 72,000 virgins only leaving room for 71,000 other people?



9/14/2009 7:24:39 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

consigliere31
Victoria, BC
age: 51


Quote from whitegirlkiller:
Yeah, Ive been doing alittle research, reading up on death. and @ the end of my studies it brought me to the question of, where do people go when they die? Heaven or Hell. I Believe in God so Its no shock to say that i believe in the bible and after reading thru a few books of the bible it clear, atleast to me that not all of us are suppose to go to heaven.
Revelation 5:9-10 That the 144,000 are priests to God and will rule over the earth. you gotta check this out!


The scripture says nothing about these 'tribes' going to heaven, the number of saints before the throne of God is innumerable...


Rev 7
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;


It merely says that 12,000 are sealed by God from each tribe listed.

It really is nothing more than a symbol and should not be taken literally, as the rest of the description regarding this remnant of people.

The 12,000 is a descriptive expression pertaining to a perfected remnant of Israelites that were called to the gospel...while the rest of Israel was blinded by God from hearing the gospel of Christ. Christ talked about this prophecy from Isaiah concerning the house of Israel being blinded..and Paul also spoke on the remnant of Israel being a prophecy of Isaiah that is being fulfilled.


Romans 9:27
Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved.


The usage of 12 is symbolic of a remnat group, just as the 12 disciples were a remnant of called out ones...why 12 I am not sure, but the usage of the number 1000 defines perfection and completeness. The sealing of the remant of Israel pertains to the purposes of prophecy being fulfilled. There is no actual accuracy in the exact number, and to take it literal, then the entire prophecy concerning this remnant saved and sealed, must also be taken literally. it would be an incorrect exegesis of scripture to pick and chose what we supposed to be literal or not concerning this prophetic remaant.



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9/14/2009 9:10:44 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

mr_crowley
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,588)
Aynor, SC
age: 41


Considering there are probably many trillions of people on this planet.
144,000 christians leaving wouldn't even effect this forum.
You should all pray that your imaginary god take ALL OF YOU!, so the thinking population can stop hearing the nonsense, you all babble about.



9/14/2009 10:40:57 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
lees224
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,605)
Cohoes, NY
age: 52


crawley man hope you have fun at your pit stop.too.

i hope i'm one of the 144,000 that waves good bye to you..devilboye..

anybody can laugh all they want,,but the 144,000 may save your sorry asses..
cause ya cant save em yourselves.all by your self.

9/14/2009 10:47:59 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

lust4love
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,701)
Atco, NJ
age: 39


Crowley c'mon youre going to give the nice church lady lees nightmares.



[Edited 9/14/2009 10:49:07 PM PST]

9/14/2009 10:56:10 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
lees224
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,605)
Cohoes, NY
age: 52


never.
principalties dont scare me..



[Edited 9/14/2009 10:57:29 PM PST]

9/15/2009 1:19:03 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

lust4love
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,701)
Atco, NJ
age: 39


The Jersey Devil, sometimes called the Leeds Devils, is a legendary creature said to inhabit the Pine Barrens in southern New Jersey. The creature is often described as a flying biped with hooves, but there are many variations.
The Jersey Devil is also the protecter of the forest.

There are many possible origins of the Jersey Devil legend. The earliest legends date back to Native American folklore. The Lenni Lenape tribes called the area around Pine Barrens "Popuessing", meaning "place of the dragon". Swedish explorers later named it "Drake Kill", "drake" being a Swedish word for dragon, and "kill" meaning channel or arm of the sea (river, stream, etc.).

The most accepted origin of the story started with Mother Leeds.

"It was said that Mother Leeds had 12 children and, after giving birth to her 12th child, stated that if she had another, it would be the Devil. In 1735, Mother Leeds was in labor on a stormy night. Gathered around her were her friends. Mother Leeds was supposedly a witch and the child's father was the Devil himself. The child was born normal, but then changed form. It changed from a normal baby to a creature with hooves, a horse's head, bat wings and a forked tail. It growled and screamed, then killed the midwife before flying up the chimney. It circled the villages and headed toward the pines. In 1740 a clergy exorcised the demon for 100 years and it wasn't seen again until 1890."

"Mother Leeds" has been identified by some as Deborah Leeds. This identification may have gained credence from the fact that Deborah Leeds' husband, Japhet Leeds, named twelve children in the will he wrote in 1736, which is compatible with the legend of the Jersey Devil being the thirteenth child born by Mother Leeds. Deborah and Japhet Leeds also lived in the Leeds Point section of what is now Absecon, New Jersey,Atlantic county which is the area commonly said to be the location of the Jersey Devil story.

9/15/2009 1:39:19 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


Quote from mr_crowley:
Considering there are probably many trillions of people on this planet.
144,000 christians leaving wouldn't even effect this forum.
You should all pray that your imaginary god take ALL OF YOU!, so the thinking population can stop hearing the nonsense, you all babble about.



Actually the 144,000 saved will be Jews and not Christians. God doesnt want Christians and instead wants gay Jews.

9/15/2009 11:27:02 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


The scripture says nothing about these 'tribes' going to heaven, the number of saints before the throne of God is innumerable...

Revelation 5:9-10, 7:4-9, 14:1-5, 20:4, 21:1-4.
from reading these scripture the 144,000 are to a special position that no other have, they are to become priests of our God and rule as kings over the Earth.

9/15/2009 8:37:57 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

mrchris2u
Over 1,000 Posts (1,178)
Hicksville, NY
age: 48


I think we get reborn again and again till we wise up enough. Then we go to were all the schmucks ain't.

9/15/2009 9:48:06 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
lees224
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,605)
Cohoes, NY
age: 52


ok..

i just know im going up.sometime,somehow...i rather go up..paradise might be nice too.

9/15/2009 10:55:26 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


Not unless you are a gay Jew you aren't...

"The hundred and forty and four thousand ... which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins."

Only 144,000 celibate men will be saved. (Those who were not "defiled with women.")



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9/15/2009 11:00:25 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

lust4love
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,701)
Atco, NJ
age: 39


bob marley said that...... like an angel rising up to paradise.Hes dead dead every hair on his head lees



[Edited 9/15/2009 11:01:07 PM PST]

9/16/2009 8:02:14 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

consigliere31
Victoria, BC
age: 51


Quote from whitegirlkiller:
The scripture says nothing about these 'tribes' going to heaven, the number of saints before the throne of God is innumerable...

Revelation 5:9-10, 7:4-9, 14:1-5, 20:4, 21:1-4.
from reading these scripture the 144,000 are to a special position that no other have, they are to become priests of our God and rule as kings over the Earth.


Ok, how does ruling on earth as a king and priest of God, equate to these so called 144,000 being the only ones in heaven? It doesn't say that these will be in heaven necessarily...the scripture says nothing about heaven and actually says the opposite..that they will rule on the earth.

Again I will say that this is not a literal 144,000. Like most of Revelation, this expression is nothing more than a prophetic symbol that represents something other than the literal.

9/16/2009 8:20:37 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


You think so? 144,000 is awful specific for goodness sake just to be some allegorical symbolism...

If I was a Christian I would be panicked and immediately convert to Judaism and also insist that I had never been "defiled with a woman."



[Edited 9/16/2009 8:26:04 AM PST]

9/16/2009 8:25:34 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

faithhealer
Over 2,000 Posts (2,022)
Muskogee, OK
age: 59


What's so tough about this...seems to me you have a choice. Reject your own myth system, become a Jew and act as tho you never got any...hell in high school all the girls did that and DO NOT get a hold of yourself anymore.



[Edited 9/16/2009 8:26:39 AM PST]

9/16/2009 8:33:41 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

consigliere31
Victoria, BC
age: 51


Quote from xashax:
You think so? 144,000 is awful specific for goodness sake just to be some allegorical symbolism...

If I was a Christian I would be panicked and immediately convert to Judaism and also insist that I had never been "defiled with a woman."


Unless of course you were a universalist preterist christian, such as I am!

Are the tribes literal?

I don't believe so because these are not the tribes of Israel in Rev 7...The two literal tribes of Dan and Ephraim are omitted in the passage...not only that but why is the tribe of Levi included in the revelation? In the Old testament the tribe of Levi was never counted in the twelve tribes of israel because of their special status as priests of the Mosaic law..yet in Revelation they are counted among the twelve tribes...In fact the 'literal' Levitical priesthood, ceased when Christ came because Christ actually represented the priesthood Himself (Heb 7-10)

just some observations



[Edited 9/16/2009 8:35:35 AM PST]

9/16/2009 11:33:38 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


Unless of course you were a universalist preterist christian, such as I am!


Oh, is that another one of those thousands of Christian denominations? There is always a loophole somewhere. Well at least now you can remain a Christian and have sex and still be included with the abstractly symbolic 144,000.

9/16/2009 11:37:01 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


Quote from consigliere31:
Ok, how does ruling on earth as a king and priest of God, equate to these so called 144,000 being the only ones in heaven? It doesn't say that these will be in heaven necessarily...the scripture says nothing about heaven and actually says the opposite..that they will rule on the earth.

Again I will say that this is not a literal 144,000. Like most of Revelation, this expression is nothing more than a prophetic symbol that represents something other than the literal.


9/16/2009 8:41:21 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

consigliere31
Victoria, BC
age: 51


Quote from xashax:
Oh, is that another one of those thousands of Christian denominations?


No I think there is just me.



There is always a loophole somewhere. Well at least now you can remain a Christian and have sex and still be included with the abstractly symbolic 144,000.


The 144,000 becomes irrelevant because that was given as a specific prophecy for another time and another era , which has long past centuries ago I might add.. The new age I live in is where all are welcome to come and freely eat from the tree of life.



[Edited 9/16/2009 8:42:45 PM PST]

9/16/2009 9:34:10 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
lees224
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,605)
Cohoes, NY
age: 52


some,

9/17/2009 12:12:25 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
sharedmercy
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,988)
Fort Wayne, IN
age: 54


Quote from whitegirlkiller:
I know im not the only person to have seen this!!? After reading revelations and other books of the bible it has became clear to me. A set number of people to live in heaven, and the rest to inherit the earth. My question is have anyone uncovered this? seen this in the bible? heard about it from a friend maybe? All comments are welcome.. oh yea we all have our own views about Heaven, Hell and so on.... I just want to know some of your viewpoints


Jesus said, "For many are called, but few are chosen" Matthew 22:14



9/17/2009 12:46:26 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


No I think there is just me.


Not really. I just located the definition online.

"Preterism is a variant of Christian eschatology which holds that most or all of the biblical prophecies concerning the Last Days or End Times refer to events which already happened in the first century after Christ's birth."

So is it your understanding that this event has already occurred? The 144,000 being saved?

9/17/2009 8:26:15 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

consigliere31
Victoria, BC
age: 51


Quote from xashax:
Not really. I just located the definition online.

"Preterism is a variant of Christian eschatology which holds that most or all of the biblical prophecies concerning the Last Days or End Times refer to events which already happened in the first century after Christ's birth."

So is it your understanding that this event has already occurred? The 144,000 being saved?


There are many preterists and there are many universalists, but to date I have yet to meet a person who balances the two with scripture.

The thought of the 144,000 saved from the tribes of Israel I do not take literally...To me this is a symbol that represents the remnant of Israel that would be chosen for salvation in those last days of the age of the law. Many are called but few are chosen is a comment specific for only the Jews...The many Jews were called by God as a nation, but only few were chosen..

Matthew 20:16
So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

The last to be called were the Gentiles, and the first called were the Jews...However the gentiles entered into the kingdom through the gospel first and those who were first called(the Jews) were the last to enter into the kingdom...the parable of the vineyard that is spoken to lead up to this comment Jesus made, is in regards to the gentiles being the first to enter...


Romans 11
3"Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me"? 4And what was God's answer to him? "I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal." 5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace.

The bible for the most part is about God dealing with His chosen people 'Israel'...In the New testament the dealings God has with Israel have not ceased..The parables were specifically for the first century Jews..Jesus confirms this by quoting Isaiah's prophecy about Israel being blinded by God so they could not understand the parables of Christ. The OT and NT prophecies are for the most part directed at Israel, and the destruction of the temple as signifying the end of the age of the law spoken by Jesus in Matthew 24 unfolds more clearly by the Revelation of Christ given to John.



What does it mean to have a vision 'signified'? The word 'signififed' comes from the original word 'semaino'...and this means to give a sign. These signs should be understood as being signs that are revealing a spiritual vision, and should not be taken literally...If they are to be taken literally then they can't be 'signs' that signify a deeper spiritual revelation.

You can reference the word 'semaino' here..

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4591&t=KJV

It would be helpful to also look at the other scriptures that use this same word and balance out the intent of what something being 'signified' actually entails...whether it is literal or not.

9/17/2009 10:16:56 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


Quote from consigliere31:
Ok, how does ruling on earth as a king and priest of God, equate to these so called 144,000 being the only ones in heaven? It doesn't say that these will be in heaven necessarily...the scripture says nothing about heaven and actually says the opposite..that they will rule on the earth.

Again I will say that this is not a literal 144,000. Like most of Revelation, this expression is nothing more than a prophetic symbol that represents something other than the literal.


5:9-10 And they are to rule as kings over the earth, 14:1-5 who have been bought from earth. (no these are no the whole passage im hoping you will go back a read them.) in anycase you know my position on this, but for DH sake lets say that the priests of God are to inherit the earth and to rule over it, than who are those that are set to go to heaven?? I mean, was it not Jesus who said, Truly I say to you people, among those born of woman there has not been raised up a greater than John the Baptist; but a person that is a lesser one in the kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. matt 11:11

No everything in revelation cannot be taken in a literal sense. remember this is a revelation by Jesus Christ, which God Him to show slaves in signs the things that must shortly take place. to say mama those Jews arent gay lol. please tell you are jus being silly.

9/17/2009 10:26:20 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
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Well they have not "been defiled with women". You do the math. Its just because these fools were so terrified of vaginas...its ridiculous.

9/17/2009 11:02:00 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


Quote from xashax:
Well they have not "been defiled with women". You do the math. Its just because these fools were so terrified of vaginas...its ridiculous.

LOL, these are the ones that did not defile themselves with women. Mama meaning the ones that did not fornicate. Women are in 144,000

9/17/2009 11:29:56 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


Right....Im sorry were you making a point of some kind?

9/17/2009 11:42:39 AM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


point is, there arent ANY gay jews as you call them!!!

9/17/2009 12:17:26 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


Quote from whitegirlkiller:
point is, there arent ANY gay jews as you call them!!!


How do you figure that? Here is the passage.

14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Only 144,000 celibate men will be saved. These are the Jews who were not "defiled with women."

Its my opinion that only these 144,000 gay/celibate Jewish men will make it. The rest of you are screwed. You would be screwed anyway because you aren't Jews.

9/17/2009 12:21:44 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
droog1
Louisville, KY
age: 52




l'chaim!!!

9/17/2009 12:30:19 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

faithhealer
Over 2,000 Posts (2,022)
Muskogee, OK
age: 59


Quote from whitegirlkiller:
point is, there arent ANY gay jews as you call them!!!


Ever noticed it's usually someone from the south that is willing to make a profound statement about something they know nothing about...NO GAY JEWS! How bout no circumcised Jews?

If a Jew become as Baptist, is he still a Jew?

9/17/2009 12:39:09 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
droog1
Louisville, KY
age: 52


Quote from faithhealer:


If a Jew become as Baptist, is he still a Jew?



No, he's BORING!!!!

(before you bash me, please remember, I have my whole life been affilliated and member of american Baptist Churches)




9/17/2009 12:40:59 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


Do you handle snakes?

9/17/2009 12:44:01 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
droog1
Louisville, KY
age: 52


Quote from xashax:
Do you handle snakes?


That's "Southern Baptist" affilliation, X. Not "American Baptist". I've found most american Baptist churches to be so whitebread and mainstream that they are great places to catch up on sleep.

Can't tell us all apart without a scorecard can ya' Asha?

9/17/2009 12:52:20 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

faithhealer
Over 2,000 Posts (2,022)
Muskogee, OK
age: 59


Do you spaketh in tongues?

Is a Jew still a Jew if he's a Baptist...Northern, southern, eastern or western?

Hey X....I think whitegirlkiller has a thang for you.



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9/17/2009 12:53:22 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


Quote from xashax:
How do you figure that? Here is the passage.

14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Only 144,000 celibate men will be saved. These are the Jews who were not "defiled with women."

Its my opinion that only these 144,000 gay/celibate Jewish men will make it. The rest of you are screwed. You would be screwed anyway because you aren't Jews.


These are they "they" being mankind, being man or woman, not meaning gay jew. for they are virgins "virgins" meaningvthey wasnt Worldly or Wicked. (james 4:4) Adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God. these are they which follows the Lamb whereever he goes. Meaning exercising faith, like our forefathers. these were redeeded from among men, being the firstfruits. meaning thus the 144,000.
as i said before its not just men that are to be kings over the earth women also.

9/17/2009 12:54:36 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
droog1
Louisville, KY
age: 52


Quote from faithhealer:
Do you spaketh in tongues?

?


jsudht kitsdhtucy kif mjusldfot jasdhcn jahc kkk erisdign oog s tlll aoo rjsldf od e!!!!


Does that answer your question?



9/17/2009 1:04:16 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

mr_crowley
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,588)
Aynor, SC
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Droog a baptist church here in SC destroyed one of my stores, burned another n torched my beach house thinking I was home.
A friend of mine was passed out drunk on his couch when they torched his house n burned him alive.
There are several baptist churches in texas who hunt n kill people, claiming they're vampires.
The baptists are the most heretical n hypocritical of all christians in my opinion.
I value your opinions as least in this forum n thread.

One thing stood out clear in your last random post droog. Where you claimed to speak in tongues.
Somehow you typed KKK like any backwoods, baptist, redneck trash would want clearly known



[Edited 9/17/2009 1:09:20 PM PST]

9/17/2009 1:04:41 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
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Quote from whitegirlkiller:
These are they "they" being mankind, being man or woman, not meaning gay jew. for they are virgins "virgins" meaningvthey wasnt Worldly or Wicked. (james 4:4) Adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God. these are they which follows the Lamb whereever he goes. Meaning exercising faith, like our forefathers. these were redeeded from among men, being the firstfruits. meaning thus the 144,000.
as i said before its not just men that are to be kings over the earth women also.


Clearly it says 144,000 celibate males. You are simply re-writing this passage in your head because it is horribly inequitable. Wake up. The entire bible is this way. You just never noticed before because you are male. It wasnt important.

9/17/2009 1:18:25 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
walter555
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What do I have to do to join the 144,000 celibate males?

9/17/2009 1:25:10 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


Quote from faithhealer:
Do you spaketh in tongues?

Is a Jew still a Jew if he's a Baptist...Northern, southern, eastern or western?

Hey X....I think whitegirlkiller has a thang for you.


Lol Jews are God's chosen ppl, the Israelite. so if they was 2 become baptist they still would be jews.
and fyi i totally sure if there is something there for X but i do get a warm feeling everytime she replies in my post, lol.

9/17/2009 1:28:14 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

mr_crowley
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Walter I got $3,000 that says the 1st thing you have to do is be celibate

9/17/2009 1:32:44 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


Quote from walter555:
What do I have to do to join the 144,000 celibate males?


Convert to Judaism and take up a homosexual lifestyle...piece of cake.

9/17/2009 2:05:01 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


Quote from xashax:
Clearly it says 144,000 celibate males. You are simply re-writing this passage in your head because it is horribly inequitable. Wake up. The entire bible is this way. You just never noticed before because you are male. It wasnt important.


X, your not serious!!!? Mama, In DH terms i have laid the meaning of the 144,000 at your feet or atleast at eyes view. Clearly you are soooo amazed and out right shocked on how im able to deliver such good meaning on such topics, that you are coming them re-writings? Could it be that your starting to see the truth.
X being real, How do you come to the meanings of which is Celibate Men if they are infact virgins?

9/17/2009 2:21:20 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


How do you come to the meanings of which is Celibate Men if they are infact virgins?


To be celibate is to abstain from having sex. A person can not be a virgin but celibate because it is a conscious decision. You choose not to have sex from that moment forth but you may have had sexual intercourse in the past.

A virgin (in this context at least) has NEVER had sex.

This passage is saying celibate virgins. They are making sure you understand what they mean. Evidently it still isnt clear enough.

9/17/2009 2:45:11 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


Quote from xashax:
To be celibate is to abstain from having sex. A person can not be a virgin but celibate because it is a conscious decision. You choose not to have sex from that moment forth but you may have had sexual intercourse in the past.

A virgin (in this context at least) has NEVER had sex.

This passage is saying celibate virgins. They are making sure you understand what they mean. Evidently it still isnt clear enough.

you know x, I laugh when i read this HA HA HA HAAAHHH HAHAHHH HAHAHAHAAAH ok, I know you dont even believe this, or maybe you do?!!! Its not that the men are just celibate ma, your missing the big picture. Remember this is; a Revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John Revelation 1:1

9/17/2009 3:04:35 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
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Union, NH
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So? Your point? How would that change the passage itself?

9/17/2009 3:29:29 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  
walter555
Over 2,000 Posts (3,569)
Albuquerque, NM
age: 53


Quote from mr_crowley:
Walter I got $3,000 that says the 1st thing you have to do is be celibate


You and xashax are brutal.




9/17/2009 3:45:36 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

whitegirlkiller
McDonough, GA
age: 27


Quote from xashax:
So? Your point? How would that change the passage itself?


Its not suppose to change the passage all, it suppose to help with your understanding, perhaps even your reasoning.

9/17/2009 9:44:13 PM 144,000 set to go to heaven!? the meek to inherit the earth.  

xashax
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,015)
Union, NH
age: 37


Ive posted the passage for you a couple times now. You described something else that you were inventing from your own mind and not what it actually said...so I dunno. Im afraid we are at an impasse. lol