New here, probably my first and last post, because all I can see so far is a bunch of mean, abusive d*ckheads that are all trying to be "king of the mountain", and a bunch of weak, narcissistic women who seem to be enthralled by the pathetic pissing contests. I thought this was 2013, not 20,000 BC.

Sorry, but for first impressions, this group really comes across as a bunch of psychotics who need to see their doctors about changing up their medications. Good luck to you all.

New here, probably my first and last post, because all I can see so far is a bunch of mean, abusive d*ckheads that are all trying to be "king of the mountain", and a bunch of weak, narcissistic women who seem to be enthralled by the pathetic pissing contests. I thought this was 2013, not 20,000 BC.

Sorry, but for first impressions, this group really comes across as a bunch of psychotics who need to see their doctors about changing up their medications. Good luck to you all.

New here, probably my first and last post, because all I can see so far is a bunch of mean, abusive d*ckheads that are all trying to be "king of the mountain", and a bunch of weak, narcissistic women who seem to be enthralled by the pathetic pissing contests. I thought this was 2013, not 20,000 BC.

Sorry, but for first impressions, this group really comes across as a bunch of psychotics who need to see their doctors about changing up their medications. Good luck to you all.

New here, probably my first and last post, because all I can see so far is a bunch of mean, abusive d*ckheads that are all trying to be "king of the mountain", and a bunch of weak, narcissistic women who seem to be enthralled by the pathetic pissing contests. I thought this was 2013, not 20,000 BC.

Sorry, but for first impressions, this group really comes across as a bunch of psychotics who need to see their doctors about changing up their medications. Good luck to you all.

Hey! Welcome to the forums! We are not all mean and abusive. I understand where you are coming from though. I myself, don't post a lot because of the divisiveness. Still, you can choose to just ignore the drivel. Have fun!

I'm here and post and try to be as positive as I can. The haters only win and distroy if we let them. Why let them I say post what you want if negative talk shows up block or flag and don't respond. Why give them that power when this place is for us singles and we want it to be positive. Let's not let anything bring us down.

This is why I quit posting. I wonder since I've met a lot of you already at events, and feel that I'm friends with some of you. if I had posted the same thing as the op, would you have treated me as harshly? Because I think about posting something similar a lot. I don't really need an answer its just a thought.

Well, as a clinical psychologist, I just find the interactions here to be more like a teenager chat board than a forum of adults. I've read the last three months of threads, and just was amazed at how negative everyone is, and the overwhelming demand for drama. Some people just can't seem to post without a "woe is me" drama story of their day. Others seem obsessed over another group and ONLY post to be hateful. Then you have others who think they are funny, but they are really just hateful, and there are a few manipulators who try to control how people post.

This seems to be a forum divided into three cliques totaling about two dozen people, two cliques spend all day acting like children, and the third clique is the quiet one that just watches the other two fight it out, and try to make nonjudgmental comments in the margins. Even the events fall into the three cliques. What you all should do is meet in one big gathering, realize you are all adults in your 40's, 50's, and 60's and haven't been teenagers in decades, and should be able to act civilly together. I'm reasonably certain that without the confidence protection afforded by a computer monitor, that people such as Ssnowwy and BigBill would probably realize they have more in common than they care to realize. Once people realize the forum isn't just anonymous names with blurry pictures, but actual, real human beings, the behaviors will improve and new people will see a healthy, thriving community rather than a festering den of venom and spite by a few hypocritical malcontents.

Just a thought.

Why? You saying Utah women don't have a sense of humor? Or is it because all the women here are drama queens trying to upstage each other, and a guy with a sense of humor gets in the way? It's like a soap opera. I've been reading the past month or so of posts, and everyone is brutal to each other.

Where do you get to judge me as perverted? Just because of my screen name? For all you know, it's a reference to my gun collection, or my truck tires. What can I take from your screen name? Do you have bag lady nails?

See, it's precisely attacks like that, and the stupidity of elitists like you here that makes it a major turn off for new members such as myself to become active. I look at the profiles and everyone says how caring and sweet and drama free they are, then you come here and see their TRUE natures: vindictive, whiny, heartless b*tches and the guys are even more catty than the ladies.

Just thought you guys might like an outsider's opinion on what he sees. I don't expect it to change how you guys act, but you really are scaring away a lot of new people. Look at the first time posters thread. Look how many say hello and never post again. Most of them probably saw the drama and ran for the hills.

It's not new. Its been like this at least a year, and its stupid. The Utah group is full of elitist people who condemn you for any and every thought that isn't theirs. Yeah, I know- I can just avoid it, and so mostly I do, but this thread piqued my interest. And sure enough, the poster has already been hasseled over a funny screen name, had his motives questioned and been relegated to the dh b-team by one of said elitists. This group... sucks.