Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors

8/23/2007 5:31:41 PM	Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors
swcw25 Woonsocket, RI age: 48 online now!	YOU,can say what you want(and ususally do)!I however "do" think that those names that the person I was talking to are "bad" things to say, as opposed to, "good" or "nice" or "kind" things to say about me! Especially if your intention is for me or anyone to listen to what your saying and take it seriously!
8/23/2007 5:56:49 PM	Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors
jewelz5 Monteagle, TN age: 53	swcw: I don't know what you are talking about because I don't recollect ever giving you any links to check out, perhaps one or two at the most..you are confusing me with someone else. I have simply posted info, though I am not in the practice of passing out links to places for you to check unless there is just no other way or if you directly ask. The truth is a very hard pill to swallow when all we have known is one way to look at things. The truth might appear to sometimes happen at the seeming risk of hurting or bruising your sensitive ego. Certainly with no malicious intent or disrespect to you or anyone as a human being. You read into things that are not there, that is why your ego gets bruised, you pick out what suits you by cherry picking from what is within the realm of your understanding, and then try to turn your lack of initiative to dig things up on your own, around on me. I don't get paid enough to be a psycho cyber shrink. There is only so much you can convey in this venue considering the circumstances. I am not responsible to flood your brain with information that you can't or won't take the time to seek yourself, that you claim to be so interested in wanting to know.
8/23/2007 9:23:16 PM	Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors
striker29527 London, KY age: 45	first off jewelz, I am a classically trained black smith. I learned from my great granddad who learned from his dad and so on. your "little bit of jet fuel" would be more than enough to bring the towers down. at the height that the planes crashed into the towers, the wind blows at a fairly constant rate. you start pushing the air through that opening into burning material, the temperature will raise at an expotential rate. more than enought to start the steel to soften and turn into a very soft and pliable material. when it starts to bend and weaken, it will no longer support the weight above it. that is when the tower started to collapse. thew "explosions" that you saw when the towers started their fall to earth is the rapid compression of air in the floors below blowing the glass out of the frames. that gives you the classic implosion look. and you don't seem to understand that if you don't research things for your self and only rely on one or two sources for your info, your drinking their laced kool-aid. try making your own for a while. use your own source material and effort to make it and quit trying to force others to "drink" it. as for the "19 muslims with box cutters", yes they could have flown the plane. any semi intelligent orangutan can keep a jet in the air. getting off the ground and landing it is where the real skill comes into play. getting it from point A to point B in the air is not that difficult. yes I know how to fly a plane and can also fly a chopper. anybody can get the flight simulation software/games to do the same thing.hell you can even rent some flight simulators. if you have the money and can make the right connections, you can even buy soviet migs from the russian military. no I don't believe all that I see or read or hear. But I will not call some one a liar without hard concrete facts and evidence to back it up. until that happens, and in the public forum, allyou have is a "conspracy theory", not a conspiracy fact. [Edited 8/23/2007 9:23:48 PM]
8/23/2007 10:53:45 PM	Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors
jewelz5 Monteagle, TN age: 53	Striker: Have you seen the Loose Change video? I highly suggest you do and then we can have a conversation. The first one in the list at this link will do, its about 1-1/2 hrs in length. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=loose+change If you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you. Physics Professor Steven Jones Says Science Points To Conclusive Evidence of WTC Controlled Demolition. Jones unveils compelling new evidence that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that artificial explosives were used to implode the twin towers on 9/11. The physics of 9/11 — including how fast and symmetrically one of the World Trade Center buildings fell — prove that official explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics professor. In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives" in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones. Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says. The three buildings collapsed in their own footprints and did not topple over. This bears the characteristics of controlled demolition. The central columns were pulverized and the buildings fell in on themselves. Why would Muslim fanatics go to the lengths of wiring the largest complex of buildings in the world with explosives when a topple collapse would have caused more damage to lower Manhattan and killed more people? Horizontal puffs of smoke or 'squibs' can be seen popping out floors as the collapse engulfs floor by floor of the buildings. Again, this is a phenomenon atypical of controlled demolition. It requires temperatures of at least 5,000 fahrenheit to melt steel. Diesel jet fuel does not reach these temperatures and the fires in the buildings were short lived. Firefighter tape recordings prove that only small pockets of fire were still burning in the buildings seconds before their collapse. Buildings that collapse without the aid of explosives produce large piles of in-tact concrete and do not turn to dust as they are falling, as was witnessed on 9/11. WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6 seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational laws of physics? Sorry to dissapoint you striker, it was a textbook demolition job, no if's and's or but's about it. Get the kleenex box because your in for big surprise. [Edited 8/23/2007 11:19:03 PM]
8/24/2007 4:30:38 AM	Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors
striker29527 London, KY age: 45	you are the one who is deluded. go back and read what I wrote again. talk to any blacksmith about heating iron/steel. I didn't say a thing about melting steel. all you need to do is heat it to the point that it starts to weaken. when you have that kind of weight falling from that height, the concrete is going to be pulverized. and when has anyone done a controled demolition of a building that tall? never! the kind of demolition you are refering to, they use what is called low explosives. they don't use shattering charges. they use moving charges. most of the steel beam in those buildings must be precut and weakened using Accetaleen torches. review the video again, the horizontal puffs are compression waves. I have done my share of explosives work in the service, have you? doubtful! your professor jones is the one who claims that the "government" used thermite to do the cutting of the columns, I think. chemistry lesson here, the main ingredients in thermite is ferrous oxide, aluminum oxide and magnesium, okay so far? (thats rust and aluminum powder amd magnesium powder.) aircraft frames/bodies are made of aluminum (you have powdered aluminum all around and inside the planes). the girders of the buildings are made of steel covered with a spary on insulation. the steel will rust under the insulation (ferrous oxide). the wheel rims and other parts of the landing gear is made of magnesium (magnesium oxide). there is where your professors evidence could have come from (more than likely), until YOU or ANYONE else can prove it with physical evidence and EYE witness testimony, all you have is theory and conjecture. when you have the evidence and can prove it is fact, I'll be the first in line to shake your hand and start taking the scalps of all those involved in the act. till then, I stand where I stand. [Edited 8/24/2007 4:55:17 AM]
8/24/2007 2:21:39 PM	Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors
jewelz5 Monteagle, TN age: 53	Striker: Watch the Loose Change video when you get time, otherwise you are talking into the wind about what you think you think about what happened. There is an enormous amount of info for evidence, though that one video condenses things very well. It is too easy for those who do not have the strength of character to stand up and be counted so they dismiss anything they do not like as an urban myth or some conspiracy theory. People who want to believe they cannot do anything about the dangers we face in our world are too lazy, so they invent theories and fit the facts to them. They would rather look away than face the reality of what is really unfolding before their eyes. The great irony is, that it is the debunkers themselves who are guilty of the crimes they have charged everyone else with and not the other way round. NEW YORK CITY, N.Y.—On the morning of Sept. 11, 2005, New York City auxiliary fire lieutenant Paul Isaac Jr. asserted, yet again, that 9-11 was an inside job. “I know 9-11 was an inside job. The police know it’s an inside job; and the firemen know it too,” said Isaac . Researcher Vincent Sammartino, who was also at the WTC “open grave site” on the afternoon of Sept. 11, 2005, wrote the following on the on-line news web site APFN: “I just got back from Ground Zero. People know the truth. Half of the police and firemen were coming up to us and telling us that they know that 9-11 was an inside job. They were told not to talk about it. But they were supporting what we were doing. I had tears in my eyes.” The ramifications of this statement are immense: One of New York’s own firefighters says publicly that 9-11 couldn’t have been the work of Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, but instead was planned, coordinated and executed by elements within our own government. [In 2000] a project set up by the men who now surround George W Bush said what America needed was "a new Pearl Harbor". [John Pilger] Like his father, Bush tries to keep a daily diary of his thoughts and observations. [On 9/11], he dictated: "The Pearl Harbor of the 21st century took place today." [Washington Post] FEMA was in New York the Night Before 9/11. A statement made by FEMA spokesman Tom Kenney to Dan Rather on Wednesday, September 12th, 2001 in the interview he states that, ''FEMA was deployed to New York on Monday night, September 10th, to be ready to go into action on Tuesday morning, September 11th''. Flashback: Pearl Harbor was orchestrated - emergency teams were in place: President Roosevelt, ''the American people would never agree to enter the war in Europe unless they were attack within their own borders.'' FDR knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked. Most of the conspirators were military men, all men of FDR's own choice, men who only followed orders and FDR never delegated authority. The handful of military men in DC responsible for the disaster at Pearl Harbor were directly under the control of FDR and were later promoted and protected from investigation; promoted with FDR's full knowledge that they were responsible for not warning Hawaii. On the record, Intelligence tried to warn HI scores of times but were prevented by FDR's men. knock knock... hello?...anybody home? [Edited 8/25/2007 12:14:48 AM]

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