There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds

10/8/2014 2:54:48 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 65, joined Nov. 2007 online now!	There is a growing hatred for the cops and the federal government in our country and some people even wonder why. This story will show that the States, Cops and federal government have little regard for peoples rights and little regard for the US Constitution. These thieving bastards all belong in prison starting with the a**holes who put this law in place. Semper Fi !!! John Yoder and Brad Cates, who headed the Asset Forfeiture Office at the U.S. Department of Justice from 1983 to 1989, slammed civil forfeiture as a “complete corruption” and “fundamentally at odds with our judicial system and notions of fairness,” in an op-ed for The Washington Post. Thanks to civil forfeiture laws, police and prosecutors don’t need to charge someone with a crime to seize and keep their property. Yoder and Cates “were heavily involved in the creation of the asset forfeiture initiative at the Justice Department,” they write, but after seeing civil forfeiture become a “gross perversion of the status of government amid a free citizenry,” the two now believe it should be “abolished.” Their criticisms come on the heels of an extensive, three-part investigation by The Washington Post into highway interdiction. Since 9/11, without warrants and despite a lack of criminal charges, law enforcement nationwide has taken in $2.5 billion from 61,998 cash seizures under equitable sharing. This federal civil forfeiture program lets local and state law enforcement literally make a federal case out of a seizure, if they collaborate with a federal agency. Not only can they then bypass state forfeiture laws, they can pocket up to 80 percent of the proceeds. So of that $2.5 billion seized through equitable sharing, local and state authorities kept $1.7 billion for their own uses. In order to seize cash, police typically pulled drivers over for minor traffic infractions. During the stop, police would look for “indicators” of suspicious, criminal activity. Tinted windows, air fresheners, trash in the car, “a profusion of energy drinks,” “a driver who is too talkative or too quiet” and signs of nervousness have all been considered indicators. For one Florida sheriff, “cars obeying the speed limit were suspect—their desire to avoid being stopped made them stand out.” On the grounds that a driver is sufficiently suspicious, police then have the authority to search the car with a drug dog. If the dog alerts (and there are significant concerns about their accuracy), police then have probable cause to seize property owned by the driver. After police seized cash, the government usually wins: The Washington Post found that out of nearly 62,000 cash seizures since 9/11, in only 4,455 cases—seven percent—did the government agree to return at least a portion of the money taken. Vincent Costello was one of them. Driving down to fix up a home in Florida with his girlfriend, the two were pulled over in May 2010 by Deputy Mason Ashby for a cracked windshield. During the stop, Ashby claimed he smelled marijuana and searched the van. No drugs were found. But the deputy did find over $30,000 in cash. Ashby contacted another deputy, a member of a regional DEA task force. Despite the pesky fact that they didn’t find any drugs, police seized all of Costello’s cash. After he hired an attorney, the government offered to settle his case. But Costello would only get half of his money back. With his legal fees topping $9,000, Costello kept just $7,000—less than a quarter of what was originally seized. “Why would [they] give anything back if they thought you were guilty?” he told The Washington Post. Since equitable sharing is a federal program, it can be very difficult to prevent law enforcement from participating, even in states that have strong protections for property owners. In Utah, voters, by a margin of 2:1, overwhelmingly backed an initiative that overhauled the state’s civil forfeiture laws and sharply curtailed involvement in equitable sharing in 2000. Under these short-lived reforms, just $3,357 was transferred to Utah in fiscal year 2002 through equitable sharing. One year later, that number was $0. Undaunted, law enforcement lobbied heavily and convinced state lawmakers to pass a bill in 2004, weakening the initiative. It had been the first time since the 1960s that the Utah legislature had overturned a citizen ballot initiative. With the reforms gutted, Utah law enforcement could continue to police for profit. Over the past two years, Utah law enforcement has received over $2.8 million from equitable sharing. The lure of equitable sharing is even more pronounced in North Carolina, the only state without civil forfeiture. Law enforcement there can only take property after a person has been convicted of a crime and gain nothing after a property has been forfeited. Yet by partnering with federal agencies, police in North Carolina are doing an end-run around state law. They’ve done so with gusto, seizing over $130 million under equitable sharing, the fifth most of any state. Of that, North Carolina law enforcement kept $96.9 million. While the Post investigation focused on highway interdiction, civil forfeiture is by no means limited to drivers. The Institute for Justice has represented a motel owner in Massachusetts, a California landlord, grocery store owners in Michigan, and just launched a major class-action lawsuit on behalf of homeowners in Philadelphia. Across the country, 298 departments and 210 task forces, ranging from tiny Estelline, Tex. to Philadelphia, have seized the equivalent of at least 20 percent of their budgets. Police departments have become “dependent, if not addicted to that revenue stream,” noted Norm Stamper, former Seattle Chief of Police and now an advisory board member of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. “It’s when that revenue becomes a line item in next year’s budget that you’re dealing with I think a corrupt practice,” he added. The notion that civil forfeiture can be a perverse incentive is further bolstered by a new IJ report, “Bad Apples or Bad Laws?” Using experimental economics, researchers at Chapman University created a video game that split participants into two groups: red for sheriffs, blue for citizens. When rules were in place that mimicked civil forfeiture, sheriffs took more property. These takings also fostered ill will between the two groups, with blue participants making comments like “he has too much power,” “red has no incentive to help us” and “some reds just wanna see the world burn.” Likewise, civil forfeiture is overwhelmingly unpopular. Prospects for reform are starting to brighten. Earlier this year, Minnesota enacted a landmark law that requires a criminal conviction or its equivalent before the government can forfeit property. In Congress, Sen. Rand Paul has proposed the Fifth Amendment Integrity Restoration (FAIR) Act, which would largely end equitable sharing. Similarly, in the House, Rep. Tim Walberg has sponsored a bill that, in his words, would require the U.S. Attorney General “to certify that equitable-sharing agreements are not entered into simply to get around state laws that would prohibit a forfeiture.” Police are sworn to protect the public, not to profiteer. “The police belong to the people,” remarked Stamper. “Not the other way around.” Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
10/8/2014 7:34:53 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 65, joined Nov. 2007 online now!	Notice all the police department issues the same nonsensical excuse and lies to justify the criminal behavior their bad cops. The narrative follows the same recipe: angelic White police did not racial profile, didn't treated the Black Teen like a criminal, respected the civil rights of the suspect, and acted with utmost restraint, whereas the Black Teen was described as big , powerful, aggressive, disobedient, committed battery on the cops, shouted profanity, and generally painted a nasty picture of the Black Teen. These narratives filled with lies make all police departments have no credibility, integrity, or honor. Cops are not the brightest light bulb. They are hired more for their brawn than brain. If the Black Teen claims he is a foster child living in the home, the cops should have allowed the Black Teen telephone his foster parents or have police contact the foster parent directly, or confirm the foster-child relationship with the neighbors before expressing doubt and hostility toward the Black Teen. Alternatively, the cops could have asked the Black Teen to show them his room, his closet, his clothing, his shoes and personal belongings as evidence that he is a legitimate resident. Attacking the Black Teen with MACE and mistreating him as a criminal are evidence that the cops had jumped to conclusion based on racial prejudice. Fortunately, the police department did not dispatch to the home their paratrooper units armed with heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, armor vehicles, sniper rifles, and helicopter gunship on an urban combat mission. Otherwise, the result would have been one dead Black teen and a burnt out home, and massive a demonstration yelling, "Don't shoot, I live here." Semper Fi !!! FUQUAY-VARINA, N.C. (AP) — Police mistook a black teenager for a burglar and pepper-sprayed him inside the home of his white foster parents. It was Monday afternoon when 18-year-old DeShawn Currie came home from school and went up to his room. Unknown to him, a neighbor thought they saw something amiss in a neighborhood of mostly modest brick ranch homes that's had a run of crimes lately. Police were called. A possible burglary in progress. The three officers dispatched to investigate found the side door ajar and walked in, guns drawn. Barefoot and dressed in a tank-top and shorts, Currie came downstairs and met them in the dining room. Not knowing if Currie was a burglar, whether he was armed or who else was in the house, an officer barked orders. Currie tried to explain this was his home. They told him to shut up. "I did everything that they asked," said Currie, who is about 5-foot-8 and 200-pounds. "I was calm and being compliant with them until something happened." One of the officers noted the faces of three small white children in the family photos on the mantel. Currie is black. "Where's your picture if you say you live here?" Stacy Tyler, who made Currie her foster child last December, recounts one of the officers as asking. "He (Currie) snapped. And that's when he got loud and yelling." Officers raked his face with pepper spray. "Mr. Currie became very volatile, profane and threatened physical violence toward the police officer," police in this Raleigh suburb said Wednesday in a prepared statement. "In an effort to calm Mr. Currie, the police officer asked him several times to have a seat, which he refused. Mr. Currie became increasingly belligerent and profane and the police officer attempted to restrain Mr. Currie with handcuffs to insure the police officer's and Mr. Currie's safety. Mr. Currie then struck the police officer's left arm knocking the handcuffs to the floor." That's what led to the pepper spray, police said. No charges were filed against Currie. "The Fuquay-Varina Police Department does not engage in nor does it condone racial profiling. At no time during this event was race a factor," their statement said. Stacy Tyler said she believes all of the officers involved are white. Police have not said how many officers entered the home, their length of service with the department or their race. Police Chief Larry Smith, two police captains and a police spokeswoman did not respond to emails from The Associated Press asking what specific instructions Currie did not follow. Police also did not describe what kinds of crimes had been committed in the neighborhood and how recently. Stacy Tyler said a bicycle was stolen out of her home's back yard a couple of weeks ago. Tyler said she arrived home Monday after picking up her other three children from school, running errands and buying them ice cream to find Currie crying inside an ambulance. He was handcuffed as his face and eyes were doused with water to flush out the pepper. "That was the part that broke my heart, knowing all the work that my husband and I have put into rebuilding his life and giving him a good and normal teenage life," Tyler said, chatting outside her rented home as a black cat snoozed in a wicker rocking chair on the porch. "You don't get in foster care and not have scars, and he's been in foster care a very long time." The 29-year-old, stay-at-home mom met Currie during the 18 months she and her husband Rickey lived and worked at the children's home. She said she and Rickey, a 30-year-old construction foreman, decided simultaneously to bring Currie into their home last year. They moved next door to a black family in a mostly white neighborhood less than three months ago, Stacy said. The neighbor who called the police apologized Tuesday for prompting what could have become a tragedy instead of a sudden heartbreak. Currie said his eyes still sting and his heart still hurts. "I'm getting over it and whatever slowly," he said. "But there's still that big emotional part."
10/9/2014 7:28:20 AM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
1irving Stratford, CT 55, joined Mar. 2013	There is no community based policing anymore. Respect and trust are the basis for good policing. When there is no trust and respect, we are only subjects and not citizens. Policing is only possible with large militarized forces at this point, gestapo tactics, electronic surveillance will prevail in our courts and our streets.
10/9/2014 10:40:33 AM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 65, joined Nov. 2007 online now!	I have known several really good cops and other law enforcement people including several of my own family members. These people were and are good law enforcement because they stayed within the parameters of the US Constitution and their local laws. Across the country everyday we are seeing more and more cops straying away from the laws put in place to protect the general public. This bullshit has to stop! These cops need to face prison when they ignore the rule of law. We are on the verge of a civil war in the entire country. I can't help but to believe that Obama in some way in behind a lot of this civil unrest so the people will rise up against the law. This would be a perfect time to declare martial law which is something I think he wants to do so he can stay in power. Hodag and myself have hashed this over for a long time now and we both believe it's just a matter of time before people say enough is enough and the fight will be on. You have read my posts about out of control law enforcement, that's just a fraction of what there is. We have got to wake up and see whats happing to our country and put a stop to it. Semper Fi !!! The perils of resisting the police state grow more costly with each passing day (Infowars) – The perils of resisting the police state grow more costly with each passing day, especially if you hope to escape with your life and property intact. The thing you must remember is that we’ve entered an age of militarized police in which we’re no longer viewed as civilians but as enemy combatants. Take, for example, Mary Elizabeth VandenBerg who was charged with disturbing the peace, a crime punishable by up to 93 days in jail and a $500 fine, for daring to vocalize her frustrations over a traffic ticket by reading a prepared statement to the court clerk and paying her $145 traffic ticket with 145 one-dollar bills. VandenBerg was also handcuffed, tasered and pepper sprayed for “passively” resisting police by repeatedly stopping and talking to them and stiffening her arms. The incident, filmed by VandenBerg’s brother, is now the subject of a lawsuit. SPECIAL: Join the Tea Party REVOLUTION! The Obama Regime must be dismantled! Zachary Noel was tasered by police and charged with resisting arrest after he questioned why he was being ordered out of his truck during a traffic stop. “Because I’m telling you to,” the officer replied before repeating his order for Noel to get out of the vehicle and then, without warning, shooting him with a taser through the open window. The encounter, recorded with a cell phone by Noel’s friend in the passenger seat, offers a particularly chilling affirmation of how little recourse Americans really have when it comes to obeying an order from a government official or police officer, even if it’s just to ask a question or assert one’s rights. Eighteen-year-old Keivon Young was shot seven times by police from behind while urinating outdoors. Young was just zipping up his pants when he heard a commotion behind him and then found himself struck by a hail of bullets from two undercover cops. Despite the fact that the officers mistook Young—5’4,” 135 lbs., and guilty of nothing more than taking a leak outdoors—for a 6’ tall, 200 lb. murder suspect whom they later apprehended, the young man was charged with felony resisting arrest and two counts of assaulting a peace officer. What these incidents make clear is that anything short of compliance will now get you charged with any of the growing number of contempt charges (ranging from resisting arrest and interference to disorderly conduct, obstruction, and failure to obey a police order) that get trotted out anytime a citizen voices discontent with the government or challenges or even questions the authority of the powers that be—and that’s the best case scenario. The worst case scenario involves getting probed, poked, pinched, tasered, tackled, searched, seized, stripped, manhandled, arrested, shot, or killed. http://www.infowars.com/should-we-just-follow-orders-rules-of-engagement-for-resisting-the-police-state/ - See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/just-follow-orders-rules-engagement-resisting-police-state-60097/#sthash.c0LmPWma.dpuf
10/9/2014 12:06:59 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
sureshot40 Drumright, OK 46, joined Apr. 2011 online now!	There is a growing distrust of the government. IRS scandal, Benhazi, Gun running, NSA spying, illegal migration and none of those have ever been resolved. The only thing the Obama administration comes down on is Americans. Meanwhile the muslims, russians and chinese are having a play day and the American tax payers are footing the bill. Obama has succesfully come down on and brought down America. I hate to be all gloom and doom but thats how I see it. I exepct it to get worse before it ever gets better.
10/9/2014 6:07:37 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 65, joined Nov. 2007 online now!	Quote from sureshot40: There is a growing distrust of the government. IRS scandal, Benhazi, Gun running, NSA spying, illegal migration and none of those have ever been resolved. The only thing the Obama administration comes down on is Americans. Meanwhile the muslims, russians and chinese are having a play day and the American tax payers are footing the bill. Obama has succesfully come down on and brought down America. I hate to be all gloom and doom but thats how I see it. I exepct it to get worse before it ever gets better. Sure, You're right on the money. I don't know how it could get much worse without there being an all out revolt against the government and I'd expect to see the crooked cops sawed off at the knees also. Next I'd expect to see the good guys go after congress and slam the ones that have worked with Obama to bring the country down,,,,reid and pelosi come to mind as the front runners. You know what they say "shit rolls down hill", so I think the IRS,BLM,EPA and several others will be in line for a tune up. Semper Fi !!!
10/9/2014 11:40:41 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
driver406 Saint Paul, MN 63, joined Oct. 2009	Not too fond of them myself, but if you OBEY THE LAW, then they shouldn't bother you.Works for me.
10/10/2014 8:20:17 AM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
1irving Stratford, CT 55, joined Mar. 2013	Harassment is when the police bother you when you ARE obeying the law.
10/13/2014 4:13:38 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
hodag Nome, AK 62, joined Nov. 2007	Quote from driver406: Not too fond of them myself, but if you OBEY THE LAW, then they shouldn't bother you.Works for me. What about when the law is unconstitutional, or when the cops are acting outside the Constitution? Cops can be just as corrupt as the politicians, and when cops kiss the "right" politicians ass, there can be big rewards.
10/13/2014 5:20:06 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
clarity101 Aurora, CO 64, joined Oct. 2008	there are ALOT of GOOD COPS out there. GOD bless them and keep them safe! By Denver Police Department TOP COP: OFC. DEAN WALKER Wednesday, October 1, 2014 a Denver man and his wife called the Denver Police as a last resort for help with their son. Their son has Aspergers, and was growing increasingly upset due to some changes in his environment. The family had just moved to a new apartment, and was short on funds. The father was two days from payday and the family was without food. In comes Denver Police Department District Three, Southeast Denver Officer Dean Walker. Using his various skills, he calmly talked the frustrated young man down, but he didn’t stop there. Dean recognized how frustrating hunger can make anyone and took the young man to get something to eat. The family was beyond grateful for Dean’s kindness, and calming demeanor. The young man’s father later wrote in to thank Dean. He and his wife are sure that he kept the situation from escalating, and that he turned a bad day for their son, into a great one with a this simple act. i too had a wonderful experience with a GOOD COP in my city when my son was suicidal many years ago. he helped me get the help i needed for my son which got him on path to living and functioning with mental illness. THANK GOD for all the GOOD COPS.
10/14/2014 2:44:19 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
driver406 Saint Paul, MN 63, joined Oct. 2009	I never liked either, but stay out of trouble and they won't bother you.
10/14/2014 3:24:19 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
hodag Nome, AK 62, joined Nov. 2007	I'm just not going to put all cops, or anyone else, in one basket. I've met some cops who were total, complete a**holes. They were in the minority, in my own, personal experience. The vast number of cops I've had experience with were really good, decent people.
10/14/2014 5:50:12 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
1irving Stratford, CT 55, joined Mar. 2013	Last year I wrote a recommendation for a Trooper who treated me well, though I was in the wrong. He was promoted and moved to the academy to teach. When an idiot called me from Harrisburg to ask me about him, I told him, "It's all in the letter I wrote, don't you have a copy in front of you?" He said he did have a copy. I asked him, "Do you idiots always survey criminals with opinions on troopers?" "Uh, no, we don't." "you better not start now." CLICK.
10/15/2014 10:28:20 AM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 65, joined Nov. 2007 online now!	Quote from driver406: I never liked either, but stay out of trouble and they won't bother you. Really??? If you have read my post on this subject it is plain to see that most of the victims didn't do anything wrong, in other words stayed out of trouble. The whole point to these post is to show that you don't have to do anything to become a target for some of these police that could kill you. Semper Fi !!!
10/15/2014 10:42:12 AM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
stargazzer Creighton, NE 67, joined Feb. 2007	Seems something may have chainged in training & hireing sence 2008???
10/15/2014 5:23:37 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
1irving Stratford, CT 55, joined Mar. 2013	Veterans are no longer encouraged to join police forces.
10/24/2014 12:51:59 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 65, joined Nov. 2007 online now!	Part 1 Semper Fi !!! (National Review) - The New Haven SWAT team must have been pretty amped up: It was midnight, and they were getting ready to bust down the door of a man wanted on charges involving weapons violations, robbery — and murder. They were not sure how many people were in the house, or how they’d react. After a volley of flash grenades that set fire to the carpet and a sofa, they moved in, guns drawn. A minute later, they had their man zip-tied on the floor. If only they’d double-checked the address first. Bobby Griffin Jr. was wanted on murder charges. His next-door neighbor on Peck Street, Joseph Adams, wasn’t. But that didn’t stop the SWAT team from knocking down his door, setting his home on fire, roughing him up, keeping him tied up in his underwear for nearly three hours, and treating the New Haven man, who is gay, to a nance show as officers taunted him with flamboyantly effeminate mannerisms. If the events detailed in Mr. Adams’s recently filed lawsuit are even remotely accurate, the episode was a moral violation and, arguably, a crime. And when Mr. Adams showed up at the New Haven police department the next day to fill out paperwork requesting that the authorities reimburse him for the wanton destruction of his property — never mind the gross violation of his rights — the story turned Kafkaesque, as interactions with American government agencies at all levels tend to do. The police — who that same night had managed to take in the murder suspect next door without the use of flash grenades or other theatrics after his mother suggested that they were probably there for her son — denied having any record of the incident at Mr. Adams’s home ever having happened. This sort of thing happens with disturbing regularity. The New York Police Department killed an older woman in Harlem when they mistakenly raided her home in 2003. In that case, too, “flash-bang” grenades were deployed, and the concussions sent 57-year-old Alberta Spruiell into cardiac arrest, killing her. The NYPD was acting on information given to them by a local lowlife drug dealer they were leaning on. It was the first information he’d given them as an informant, and based on nothing more than that they went in hard — no-knock raid, grenades, the whole circus. As it turns out, New York dope-slingers turned rat are not entirely trustworthy. In Miami’s Coconut Grove, police struck a child in the head with their rifle butts after a no-knock SWAT raid. The address of the home was not the address on the warrant — that was two blocks away – but police insist they were in the right, warrant be damned. “They broke every single flat-screen TV, they broke the PlayStation 4, they broke every single picture frame, for whatever reason. Every single thing they could possibly break, they broke,” the homeowner said. The police insisted that they had meant to hit that house, in which there was no one other than the children, and that they had seized “narcotics” — a trivial amount of marijuana — and “weapons” — a handgun, which is perfectly legal to own in Florida.
10/24/2014 12:52:43 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 65, joined Nov. 2007 online now!	Part 2 Semper Fi !!! The stories get grisly: In Habersham County, Ga., police looking for a drug dealer — at a home in which he did not reside — broke down the doors thinking they’d find drugs and guns, which of course they didn’t. But they did manage to toss a flash grenade into a baby’s playpen, burning part of the child’s face off. The family was left with nearly $1 million in medical bills, and the kid will need surgery every few years until he stops growing. The police insist they did nothing wrong. And as in New Haven, when they found the drug dealer for whom they were searching, the Georgia authorities brought him in without incident, without kicking down any doors or throwing any stun grenades. The disfigurement of a child is horrific to contemplate. (“If you’ve never wept and want to, have a child,” David Foster Wallace wrote in “Incarnations of Burned Children.”) But the image that really hooks me is that of Joseph Adams schlepping up to the New Haven police department to endure some bureaucracy and to fill out some paperwork — because no matter how badly government screws up, fixing what’s gone wrong is always your problem. I can picture his situation precisely — every police department, driver’s-license office, tax bureau, and city licensing agency exhibits the same distinctive blind of slowly simmering hostility, smugness, contempt, and complete immunity from accountability. We are ruled by criminals, and their alibi is: “There’s no record of that in the system.” That, or: “The computer won’t let me do that.” In a sane world, the New Haven authorities would have shown up at Adams’s house with a check, flowers, and an apology, and a certificate exempting him from taxes for the rest of his life. In this world, people in his situation get treated by the government like they are the ones who have screwed up. And of course they’d say they had no record of the episode — getting information about your situation from any government agency, especially from one that is persecuting you, requires an agonizing effort. Keeping people in the dark is part of how they maintain their power. For fun sometime, call the comical New York State tax department and note the intentionally garbled phone numbers on the recording about how to get in touch with a tax agent’s superior to complain or ask a question. The strange flip-side — the second half of Samuel Francis’s “anarcho-tyranny” — is that the brunt of government abuse falls on the law-abiding. Illinois, for example, makes it difficult for an ordinary citizen to legally carry a gun for self defense — up until a couple of years ago, doing so was categorically prohibited. But Illinois police seize thousands of illegal guns from criminals each year, and the state prosecutes practically none of those weapons cases. The law-abiding — by definition law-abiding — citizens applying for concealed-carry permits get treated like criminals, and the actual criminals do not. If you follow the law and inform Illinois authorities that you have a gun in the home, you invite all sorts of intrusion and oversight. If you don’t, nobody’s really looking. Meanwhile, the streets of Chicago are full of blood, going on 1,600 shootings this year and it’s not even Halloween. Nobody is held responsible for that carnage, but if you put an eleventh round in your legally owned rifle in Oak Park, you’re looking at jail time. It’s perverse: If an ordinary citizen makes a typo on his 1040EZ, he could be on the hook for untold sums of money, fines, even jail time. When the IRS abuses its power to harass political enemies, nothing happens. A few years ago, an employer of mine entered the wrong Social Security number on my paperwork — I have barbaric handwriting — and the error took months of telephone calls and mail to fix, a period of time over which I was threatened with all sorts of nasty consequences by the Social Security Administration and the IRS. But when the Social Security Administration oversees the payment of millions of dollars in benefits to Nazi war criminals summering on Croatian beaches, nothing happens. If you’re an ordinary schmo, a typo can land you in jail. If you work for the government, you can burn the face off a baby and walk. Even in medieval times, the distinction between lords and serfs was not so pronounced. - See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/meet-new-serfs-63552/#sthash.pvSszgHP.dpuf
10/24/2014 1:52:24 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
sureshot40 Drumright, OK 46, joined Apr. 2011 online now!	Quote from tileman1814: Part 1 Semper Fi !!! If only they’d double-checked the address first. This sort of thing happens with disturbing regularity. Yes it does. About 10 years ago in Tulsa oklahoma, the cops kicked in the door of an elderly couple went straight to the bedroom shot and killed the old man as he was awakened. turns out they were at the wrong adress. The cops were on tv and said "he was shot because he had a gun beside the bed". Cops latter settled a law suit with the widow and no cop was ever charged.
10/24/2014 4:18:14 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 65, joined Nov. 2007 online now!	Quote from sureshot40: Yes it does. About 10 years ago in Tulsa oklahoma, the cops kicked in the door of an elderly couple went straight to the bedroom shot and killed the old man as he was awakened. turns out they were at the wrong adress. The cops were on tv and said "he was shot because he had a gun beside the bed". Cops latter settled a law suit with the widow and no cop was ever charged. "No cop was ever charged", that's the biggest part of the problem. The cops need to be held accountable for the mistakes they make. There should be safeguards put in place to prevent this kind of thing from ever happening again. The cops are throwing caution to the wind and people are getting hurt who had nothing to do with any of it. When the people have had enough the cops are going to become targets. If this shit happened around here the cops involved would be in deep shit because the people would go after them. Semper Fi !!!
10/24/2014 5:48:12 PM	There Is A Growing Hate For Cops & Feds
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 65, joined Nov. 2007 online now!	This is what I've been talking about. People are going to start fighting back. There is this story and the story about cops getting shot in Pennsylvania. Semper Fi !!! A Sacramento County sheriff's deputy who was shot while investigating a suspicious vehicle has died. Sacramento County Sheriff Scott Jones says the 47-year-old deputy was killed after he approached a suspicious vehicle and was shot in the forehead. Three deputies and a bystander were shot during a series of shootings Friday that spanned more than 30 miles through two California counties. Deputies were still searching for the armed suspect along a steep, tree-lined river canyon in the Sierra Nevada foothills near Auburn Friday afternoon. Jones says he does not know a motive for the shootings. Placer County Sheriff's spokeswoman Dena Erwin says two deputies also were shot there as the manhunt continued. A woman who was with the man was in custody. Authorities say she had a handgun in her purse. Here is the other story. Semper Fi !!! As far as manhunts go, Eric Matthew Frein is an especially challenging target. The suspected cop killer has extensive training as a marksman. Police say he's a survivalist who knows his way around the woods where they think he's hiding. And authorities worry he may be on the hunt for more officers. Here's what we know about Frein, the 31-year-old wanted for the death of Pennsylvania State Police Cpl. Bryon Dckson and the shooting of another officer a week and a half ago. Police say he'd been plotting his attack for months Before Dckson and Trooper Alex Douglass were shot outside the state police barracks in Blooming Grove on September 12, Frein had been mulling an ambush for months, authorities say. "Based on our investigations, we know Frein has prepared and planned extensively for months or maybe years," State Police Lt. Col. George Bivens said Sunday. Investigators know Frein "has made statements about wanting to kill law enforcement officers and also to commit mass acts of murder," State Police Commissioner Frank Noonan said last week. "He has very strong feelings about law enforcement and seems to be very angry with a lot of things that go on in our society." Bivens said while Frein planned his attack and retreat, "we believe we are closing in on him." He's the subject of an intense manhunt Up to 400 law enforcement officers are searching for Frein, including members of the FBI, the U.S. Marshals Service and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. They've zeroed in on the woods not far from Frein's family home in Canadensis -- about 20 miles from where D*ckson and Douglass were shot. His evasiveness has led schools to cancel classes and prompted authorities to ask hunters to avoid the woods in the area. Although Frein is on the run and possibly armed, there is no indication that he is a danger to anyone other than law enforcement, Bivens said. "I am convinced that Frein has engaged in a personal battle with law enforcement, specifically the Pennsylvania State Police, and will likely stay focused on that fight," he said. He's fascinated by the Cold War Frein claims to have fought with Serbians in Africa and has studied Russian and Serbian languages, according to the FBI. He even belonged to a simulation group that re-enacted Cold War-era European conflicts, officials said. The simulation group, which police declined to name, would use non-lethal Airsoft guns. But authorities believe Frein has turned a non-lethal activity lethal. "It is believed that Frein has assumed the simulation role, and is now acting it out in real life," Bivens said. Frein started wearing a "mohawk"-type haircut -- different from what he had worn for years -- apparently as part of his mental preparation for his attacks on the troopers, Bivens said. He harbors a grudge against cops While authorities believe Frein has an intense grudge against law enforcement, one friend said his angst is actually against the federal government. "He definitely let his opinions about the government be known," the friend, who wanted to be identified only as "Jack," told CNN. "He was obviously a big critic of the federal government, but he never specifically targeted police when he was talking to me," Jack said. "No indications of really any malice towards law enforcement in particular. Most of his aggression was (toward) the federal government." But others close to Frein told investigators that he had talked about his disdain for law enforcement, authorities said. "This was nothing he kept quiet," Noonan said, adding that he wished those people had spoken up before the shootings. He's a skilled marksman A trail of clues led authorities to execute a search warrant on the suspect's family's home. That's when Frein's father told authorities that two firearms were missing, according to a probable cause affidavit. The father said one of those missing firearms was an AK-47; the other was a .308 rifle, which police believe was the same type of rifle used to shoot the troopers. The father said his son grew up with guns and was a member of his high school's rifle club. When Frein shoots, his father told authorities, he "doesn't miss."

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