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By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/00 5:44 PM Eastern
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday.
The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments.
Facts about the Pentagon's finances, from the Fiscal 1999 Defense Department Financial Statement:
Military retirement health benefits liability: $196 billion
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We have grown men [ I guess unless they are 12 year olds with fake profiles ] trying to tell the Patriots that if someone actually robbed a bank or stole the money from a bank------- they will call it a mysterious dissappearance-- and no one is at fault
Grown men trying to support Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon?????
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class5
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Why yes. I've belonged to the "Imaging Science Foundation" for years!
LOL, I meant the International Skeptics Forum. Your posts are erudite and logical-you would be an asset to ISF.
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class5
Queensland
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We have grown men [ I guess unless they are 12 year olds with fake profiles ] trying to tell the Patriots that if someone actually robbed a bank or stole the money from a bank------- they will call it a mysterious dissappearance-- and no one is at fault
Grown men trying to support Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon?????
Furthermore, we have grown men believing a silly story of no-planes and holograms in daylight.
Psst! The money wasn't actually 'missing'.
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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LOL, I meant the International Skeptics Forum. Your posts are erudite and logical-you would be an asset to ISF.
I am indeed a member of the International Skeptics Forum, also formerly known as the "James Randi Educational Foundation", and so have been for several years. Not to mention a few "others". In fact, I hold several accounts from which i've posted the very same information or similar content that I have posted here. Don't tell, but I am also a member on Infowars as well as several other conspiratorial based websites.
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class5
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I am indeed a member of the International Skeptics Forum, also formerly known as the "James Randi Educational Foundation", and so have been for several years. Not to mention a few "others". In fact, I hold several accounts from which i've posted the very same information or similar content that I have posted here. Don't tell, but I am also a member on Infowars as well as several other conspiratorial based websites.
Yes, I'm on Icke, and some other truther sites that have been inactive for some time. It's great to see a fellow ISF member here. I think Progrocknick is another.
I once linked to this site for a Stundie award, I think it was Douggie, but he didn't win.
I tried to get Ozeco interested in joining here, but after perusing a few 9/11 threads all he could say was, 'Gawd!'.
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srv63
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Did you know that the pilots for truth and some of them that flew the big 757s or 767s could never have hit the WTC dead center after sitting in a flight simulator and I dont think any of them could have flown a huge jet with all those turns and such and hit the Pentagon, and not torn up the lawn, ect.ect. but but but the Arab hijackers did it, nobody filmed it or saw it, the camera's outside the Pentagon all malfunctioned at the same time, and the anti-missile batteries on the roof failed to shoot down the huge jumbo jet heading straight for it?? Oh, the radar malfunctioned too, gosh they just couldn't connect the ole dots.
Your points as well as a train load of more facts will never get these retards to doubt anything. I bet all their mommas are so proud
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class5
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Your points as well as a train load of more facts will never get these retards to doubt anything. I bet all their mommas are so proud
LOL Most of it was wrong! And that is about the level of debate one can expect from the dregs of 9/11 truth these days. Oh how the not so mighty have fallen!
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srv63
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Rob Balsamo is a liar and just a crop duster. Many pilots have countered his claims with ease.
The cameras did not malfunction at the same time, that is a fabrication. They were confiscated and any relevant material was used as evidence in the Moussaoui trial.
There are no anti-missile batteries on the roof of the Pentagon.
The radar didn't malfunction; the hijackers turned off the craft's transponder making it difficult to identify.
You don't seem to know much about this subject.
Yep, cameras were confiscated and NONE of them showed a jetliner hitting the pentagon.I guess your one of the retards that's going to tell me that an EYE WITNESS ( Barry Jennings)that lived the hell of explosives being detonated in building seven of the wtc complex, was just another conspiracy nut job and mysteriously he dies ONE DAY before giving his eyewitness testimony to the bullshit commission supposedly investigating the whole 9/11 murderous hoax. F**kin moron
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Yes, I'm on Icke, and some other truther sites that have been inactive for some time. It's great to see a fellow ISF member here. I think Progrocknick is another.
I once linked to this site for a Stundie award, I think it was Douggie, but he didn't win.
I tried to get Ozeco interested in joining here, but after perusing a few 9/11 threads all he could say was, 'Gawd!'.
I joined Datehookup basically as a watchdog for a close female friend of mine who was worried that she might end up dating a serial killer. Why I waste any time here, well, my aunt Birdie (yes, that's her real name), lost a close friend who was working at the Windows of the World restaurant the day 911 happened. .. As for ISF, my longtime girlfriend of 54 years is also a member there. Wonderful website. A place where no matter what your religious or non religious belief is, the facts are always the primary goal.
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class5
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Yep, cameras were confiscated and NONE of them showed a jetliner hitting the pentagon.
One actually does, but the camera speeds make it fairly indistinct.
I guess your one of the retards that's going to tell me that an EYE WITNESS ( Barry Jennings)that lived the hell of explosives being detonated in building seven of the wtc complex, was just another conspiracy nut job and mysteriously he dies ONE DAY before giving his eyewitness testimony to the bullshit commission supposedly investigating the whole 9/11 murderous hoax. F**kin moron
Wow, you can dispense with the insults as it just makes your case look trashy. 
Do you have a source for Jenning's claim? He was caught inside WTC7 with a co-worker, but the statement I read said he heard sounds like explosions and that doesn't mean much as there are bound to be explosions in a fire of the magnitude.
He didn't say he lived through the hell of explosives being detonated.
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class5
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I joined Datehookup basically as a watchdog for a close female friend of mine who was worried that she might end up dating a serial killer. Why I waste any time here, well, my aunt Birdie (yes, that's her real name), lost a close friend who was working at the Windows of the World restaurant the day 911 happened. .. As for ISF, my longtime girlfriend of 54 years is also a member there. Wonderful website. A place where no matter what your religious or non religious belief is, the facts are always the primary goal.
I'm here because my usual haunts are a bit slow on the CT front lately, and there is never a shortage of nutty theories in this swamp. I too lost a good friend on 9/11 who was in NY on a business trip for her accounting firm. I find ISF a refuge from the insanity that pollutes most sites.
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class5
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For a hundred points demonstrating that AA77 did in fact strike the Pentagon, see the following:
http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz/
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to tell me that an EYE WITNESS ( Barry Jennings)that lived the hell of explosives being detonated in building seven of the wtc complex, was just another conspiracy nut job and mysteriously he dies ONE DAY before giving his eyewitness testimony to the bullshit commission supposedly investigating the whole 9/11 murderous hoax.
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They will come up with something, we both know that. He is not the only whistleblower that has been murdered or died under very mysterious circumstance who has some inside scoop about 9-11. One of the women that couldn't be bought off [ 2 million I think not to sue or make waves about 9-11 ] died in an airplane crash???? Would the perps kill alot of people just to shut her up??? I'm quite sure they would if they can murder millions of innocent people in one boondoggle war after another.
The CIA is making billions off the poppies in Afghanistan now.....so funding for false flag attacks should be happening all over planet earth. Why not too?? Not 1 f**king traitor got the DP or is prison for orchestrating 9-11, planning it, carrying it out, and then covering it up.
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Yep, cameras were confiscated and NONE of them showed a jetliner hitting the pentagon. I guess your one of the retards that's going to tell me that an EYE WITNESS ( Barry Jennings)that lived the hell of explosives being detonated in building seven of the wtc complex, was just another conspiracy nut job and mysteriously he dies ONE DAY before giving his eyewitness testimony to the bullshit commission supposedly investigating the whole 9/11 murderous hoax. F**kin moron
Please provide evidence said camera's were confiscated, and not just willfully handed over to help verify what really happened. Once again, the only reason any camera that recorded flight 77 striking the Pentagon was unable to provide a clear image, is that most recording systems are set at slower frame rates so as to conserve video storage rates.
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srv63
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Wow, you can dispense with the insults as it just makes your case look trashy.
Do you have a source for Jenning's claim? He was caught inside WTC7 with a co-worker, but the statement I read said he heard sounds like explosions and that doesn't mean much as there are bound to be explosions in a fire of the magnitude.
He didn't say he lived through the hell of explosives being detonated.
Quote from class5: One actually does, but the camera speeds make it fairly indistinct. In other words you CANNOT prove your plane theory hitting the pentagon! That's a shame
As far as MR Barry Jennings eyewitness account,he clearly states that the stairwell exploded out from beneath him as he and his boss were trying to make it back down to the lobby. Since when the f**k do explosions happen during office fires in a building you f**kin moron? Apparently you know squat about building fires!!!Building 7 is the first time in history little bitty office fires brought down a building into its own footprint or should i say a perfect controlled demolition.
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class5
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Quote from class5: One actually does, but the camera speeds make it fairly indistinct. In other words you CANNOT prove your plane theory hitting the pentagon! That's a shame
Actually, it is not me that has to prove anything. Then burden of proof lies with those claiming it was a missile. The fact that AA77 struck the Pentagon stands until someone proves otherwise, and 9/11 truth are unable to do that.
As far as MR Barry Jennings eyewitness account,he clearly states that the stairwell exploded out from beneath him as he and his boss were trying to make it back down to the lobby. Since when the f**k do explosions happen during office fires in a building you f**kin moron?
All the time. Prove they don't. Jennings never suggested explosives were deployed.
Apparently you know squat about building fires!!!Building 7 is the first time in history little bitty office fires brought down a building into its own footprint or should i say a perfect controlled demolition.
Four canards in one sentence.
1). They 'little bitty office fires'. The fires raged unfought for seven hours as the water supply was cut off. The building was showing distortion before the evacuation order. The rhetoric of AE911T flows out of you.
2). It didn't exactly fall into its own footprint.
3). Show me a controlled demolition that resembles the collapse of 7WTC.
4). The 'first time in history canard. It was also the first time in history that a 47 storey office building fire went unfought for seven hours.
You are clearly just parroting old truther memes.
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Once again, the only reason any camera that recorded flight 77 striking the Pentagon was unable to provide a clear image, is that most recording systems are set at slower frame rates so as to conserve video storage rates.
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Goodness, you make shit up quicker and stupider than the twot from down under. They just cant provide a clear image huh???? Oh yeah...so they can conserve strorage space or rates or whatever
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tragicparrot
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tragic
Once again, the only reason any camera that recorded flight 77 striking the Pentagon was unable to provide a clear image, is that most recording systems are set at slower frame rates so as to conserve video storage rates.
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Goodness, you make shit up quicker and stupider than the twot from down under. They just cant provide a clear image huh???? Oh yeah...so they can conserve strorage space or rates or whatever
Apparently, neither can you.
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57channels
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tragic
Once again, the only reason any camera that recorded flight 77 striking the Pentagon was unable to provide a clear image, is that most recording systems are set at slower frame rates so as to conserve video storage rates.
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Hey, how about the videos confiscated from the nearby hotel and gas station that shows what caused the damage to the Pentagon?? You sure they also had slower rates to conserve video storage rates????
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from 57channels:Goodness, you make shit up quicker and stupider than the twot from down under. They just cant provide a clear image huh???? Oh yeah...so they conserve strorage space or rates or whatever
It's actually true and you can see confirmation of this when they air CCTV footage on the nightly news. They operate at slower speeds for greater storage capacity (remember they run continuously).
Listen, instead of carrying on like a spoiled brat, why don't you actually contribute to a debate for a change?
You know, instead of just running your mouth, actually try to disprove a claim...just once.
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srv63
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)
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| 4/20/2015 9:21:47 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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Guess what retard, i DON'T have to prove shit to you. I have no doubt that i know the clearer truth about all of the bullshit that happened on 9/11 and will waste none of my time trying to prove shit to a brain dead, head in the sand retart like yourself and your other a**hole buddies
Wow, charming. I didn't say 'you' personally, it is just how the burden of proof works. It's not my fault you are so poorly educated.
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class5
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While not about the Pentagon, this list is still on topic.
This list contains names of all those firms, depts., and individuals that 9/11 truth have claimed 'were in on it' over the last (almost) fourteen years:
1,200 people who worked the flight 93 crash scene
40,000 people who worked the piles at Ground Zero
55 FBI Evidence Response Teams at Fresh Kills in New York
7,000+ FBI Agents
8,000+ people who worked the scene at the Pentagon
ACE Bermuda Insurance
Ace Elevators
AEMC Construction
AIG Insurance
Air Traffic Control System Command Center in Washington
Alexandria VA Fire & Rescue
Allianz Global Risks
American Airlines
American Concrete Institute
American Institute of Steel Construction
American Red Cross
Applied Biosystems Inc.
Applied Research Associates
Arlington County Emergency Medical Services
Arlington County Fire Department
Arlington County Sheriff's Department
Arlington VA Police Department
Armed Forces Institute of Pathology
Armed Forces Institute of Technology Federal Advisory Committee
ARUP USA
Atlantic Heydt Inc.
BBC
Bechtel
Berlin Fire Department
Big Apple Wrecking
Blanford & Co.
Bode Technology Group
Bovis Inc.
Building and Construction Trades Council
Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms
C-130H crew in D.C. & Shanksville
Cal Berkeley Engineering Dept.
California Incident Management Team
Carter Burgess Engineering
Celera Genomics
Centers for Disease Control
Central City Fire Department
Central Intelligence Agency
Cleveland Airport control tower
Columbia University Department of Civil Engineering and Engineering Mechanics
Congressional Joint Intelligence Committee
Consolidated Edison Company
Construction Technologies Laboratory
Controlled Demolitions Inc.
Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat
Counterterrorism and Security Group
CTL Engineering
D.H. Griffin Wrecking Co. Inc.
DeSimone Consulting Engineers
Dewhurst MacFarlane &Partners
DiSalvo Ericson Engineering
District of Columbia Fire & Rescue
DOD Honor Guard, Pentagon
D'Onofrio Construction
E-4B National Airborne Operations Center crews
Edwards and Kelcey Engineering
Engineering Systems, Inc.
Environmental protection Agency
Exponent Failure Analysis Associates
EYP Mission CriticalFacilities
Fairfax County Fire & Rescue
Falcon 20 crew in PA
Family members who received calls from victims on the planes
FBI Evidence Recovery Teams
Federal Aviation Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Federal Emergency Management Agency
Federal Insurance Co.
FEMA 68-Person Urban Search and Rescue Teams: Arizona Task Force 1, California Task Force 1, California Task Force 3, California Task Force 7, Colorado Task Force 1, Fairfax Task Force 1, Florida Task Force 1, Florida Task Force 2, Maryland Task Force 1, Massachusetts Task Force 1, Metro Dade/Miami, Nebraska Task Force 1, New Mexico Task Force 1, New York Task Force 1, Pennsylvania Task Force 1, Tennessee Task Force 1, Texas Task Force 1, Utah Task Force 1, Virginia Task Force 1, Virginia Task Force 2, Washington Task Force 1
FEMA Disaster Field Office
FEMA Emergency Response Team
FEMA Urban Search and Rescue Incident Support Team-Advanced 3
Fire Department of New York
Fort Myer Fire Department
Fourteen teams of search dogs from Oregon
French Urban Search & Rescue Task Force
Friedens Volunteer Fire Department
TBC.
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class5
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(cont.)
Gateway Demolition
Gene Code Forensics
Georgia Tech Engineering Dept.
Gilsanz Murray Steficek LLP
GMAC Financing
Goldstein Associates Consulting Engineers
Guy Nordenson Associates
HAKS Engineers
Hampton-Clarke Inc.
HHS National Medical Response Team
HLW International Engineering
Hooversville Rescue Squad.
Hooversville Volunteer Fire Department
Hoy Structural Services
Hughes Associates, Inc
Hugo Neu Schnitzer East
hundreds of ironworkers, some of whom built the WTC
Hundreds of New York City Police Department Detectives
Industrial Risk Insurers
Institute for Civil Infrastructure Systems
International Association of Fire Chiefs
International Union of Operating Engineers Locals 14 & 15
J.R. Harris & Company
Karl Koch Steel Consulting Inc.
KCE Structural Engineers
Koch Skanska
Koutsoubis, Alonso Associates
Laboratory Corp. of America
Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
Leslie E. Robertson Associates
LIRo Engineering
Listie Volunteer Fire Company
Lockwood Consulting
M.G. McLaren Engineering
Masonry Society
Mazzocchi Wrecking Inc.
Metal Management Northeast
Metropolitan Airport Authority Fire Unit
Miami-Dade Urban Search & Rescue
Military District of Washington Search & Rescue Team
Montgomery County Fire & Rescue
Mueser Rutledge Consulting Engineers
Murray Engineering
Myriad Genetic Laboratories Inc.
National Center for Biotechnology Informatics
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
National Council of Structural Engineers Associations
National Disaster Medical System
National Emergency Numbering Association
National Fire Protection Association
National Guard in D.C., New York, and Pennsylvania
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
National Institutes of Health Human Genome Research Institute
National Law Enforcement and Security Institute
National Military Command Center
National Reconnaissance Office
National Response Center
National Science Foundation Division of Civil and Mechanical Systems
National Security Agency
National Transportation Safety Board
National Wrecking
Natural Hazards Research and Applications Information Center
New Jersey State Police
New York City Department of Buildings WTC Task Force
New York City Department of Design and Construction
New York City Department of Environmental Protection
New York City Office of Emergency Management
New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
New York City Police Department Aviation Unit
New York City Police Department Emergency Services Unit
New York Daily News
New York Flight Control Center
New York Newsday
New York Port Authority Construction Board
New York Port Authority Police
New York State Emergency Management Office
New York State Police Forensic Services
New York Times
North American Aerospace Defense Command
Northeast Air Defense Sector Commanders and crew
Numerous bomb-sniffing dogs
Numerous Forensic Anthropologists
Numerous Forensic Dentists
Numerous Forensic Pathologists
Numerous Forensic Radiologists
NuStats
TBC.
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class5
Queensland
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(cont.)
Occupational Safety and Health Administration
Office of Emergency Preparedness
Office of Strategic Services
Orchid Cellmark
Parsons Brinckerhoff Engineering
Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection
Pennsylvania Department of Health and Human Services
Pennsylvania Region 13 Metropolitan Medical Response Group
Pennsylvania State Funeral Directors Association
Pennsylvania State Police
Pentagon Defense Protective Service
Pentagon Helicopter Crash Response Team
Pentagon Medical Staff
Pentagon Renovation Team
Phillips & Jordan, Inc.
Port of New York and New Jersey Authority
Pro-Safety Services
Protec
Public Entity Risk Institute
Purdue University Engineering Dept.
Robert Silman Associates Structural Engineers
Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc
Rosenwasser/Grossman Consulting Engineers
Royal SunAlliance/Royal Indemnity
SACE Prime Power Assessment Teams
SACE Structural Safety Engineers and Debris Planning and Response Teams
Salvation Army Disaster Services
several EPA Hazmat Teams
several FBI Hazmat Teams
several Federal Disaster Medical Assistance Teams
several Federal Disaster Mortuary (DMORT) Teams
Severud Associates Consulting Engineers
Shanksville Volunteer Fire Company
Silverstein Properties
Simpson Gumpertz & Heger Engineers
Skidmore, Owings & Merrill LLP
Skilling Ward Magnusson Barkshire
Society of Fire Protection Engineers
Somerset Ambulance Association
Somerset County Coroner's Office
Somerset County Emergency Management Agency
Somerset Volunteer Fire Department
St. Paul/Travelers Insurance
State of Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency
Stoystown Volunteer Fire Company
Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers (SEI/ASCE)
Structural Engineers Association of New York
Superstructures Engineering
Swiss Re America Insurance
Telephone operators who took calls from passengers in the hijacked planes
Teng & Associates
Thornton-Tomasetti Group, Inc.
TIG Insurance
Tokio Marine & Fire
Transportation Safety Administration
Tully Construction
Twin City Fire Insurance
Tylk Gustafson Reckers Wilson Andrews Engineering
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Underwriters Laboratories
Union Wrecking
United Airlines
United States Air National Guard
United States Fire Administration
United States Secret Service
United Steelworkers of America
University of Sheffield Fire Engineering Research
US Army Reserves of Virginia Beach Fairfax County and Montgomery County
US Army’s Communications-Electronics Command
US Department of Defense
US Department of Justice
US Department of State
Virginia Beach Fire Department
Virginia Department of Emergency Management
Virginia State Police
Vollmer Associates Engineers
Washington Post
Weeks Marine
Weidlinger Associates
Weiskopf & Pickworth Engineering
Westmoreland County Emergency Management Agency
Whitney Contracting
Willis Group Holdings
WJE Structural Engineers
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
World Trade Center security staff
XL Insurance
Yonkers Contracting
York International
Zacharias Moussaoui prosecution team
Zurich Financial
Zurich Re Risk Engineering
And no whistleblowers?
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juma2112
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"Three men can keep a secret, if two of them are dead"
Benjamin Franklin
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from juma2112:"Three men can keep a secret, if two of them are dead"
Benjamin Franklin
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markjetson
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I don't see rogue elements of the US Gov. or the Jews on the list...WTF?
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class5
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Quote from markjetson:I don't see rogue elements of the US Gov. or the Jews on the list...WTF?
This is a list of the companies and teams etc. who were accused of being in on it, and a debunker just added to the list every time a truther made a claim that implicated a company or agency.
The Jews being in on it is just a nebulous claim, therefore omitted and 'rogue elements' of the government can't be named for their very existence is an unknown quantity.
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@noclass5:
4). The 'first time in history canard. It was also the first time in history that a 47 storey office building fire went unfought for seven hours.
Interesting how this shill is inferring the WHOLE frickin building was on fire for 7 hours (and still managed to misspell 2 words in a single sentence). 
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Interesting how our jewish members are so interested in clinging to the official narrative; i.e. the "official" conspiracy theory.
Makes one wonder who (or what) they are so interested in protecting...hmm...
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How many fkn times do I have to post the NTSB data proving that both Flight 11 and Flight 77 never took off and flew that mourning??.
Please do post it again, not that I recall ever seeing it, but please do and I will debunk it.
Oh and BTW, here is a little snippet from your whacked out friends, pilotsfortruth...they seem to be aware that the NTSB provided data and that the planes did take off!
You might want to visit their website and tell them that no planes took off and see how long you will last. I am sure that they are one site that bans idiots who support the 'no plane theory'
Link: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18405
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......."On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 08:50:54 and 08:54:11[1] in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, "...all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers..."[2]. However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the c*ckpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?"........
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Before i answer your bullshit questions, i have one SEVERE question for you. If you can't answer this ONE question then you have no right posting here anymore. It is obvious that a few of you are so damn brain dead and not a damn bit able to think for yourselves, you have no other options but to eat the shit official story that YOUR government spoon feeds you.
QUESTION: Going by the pictures/video that YOU POSTED mr higgy, would you not agree that the 10 foot thick concrete block that the germans rammed that fighter jet into did not budge a damn inch untill the whole fuselage had disenegrated/ shriveled up like an accordian until the jet engine itself hit the concrete block then that concrete block rocked backwards. NOW this brings us to your plane hitting the pentagon theory.NOTICE the only f**kin hole in the pentagon is where the fuselage (supposedly) went thru.Did you notice any holes punched thru the wall of the pentagon where the TITANIUM ENGINES of the aircraft would have hit the wall?????????? To believe your BULLSHIT theory of a plane hitting the pentagon instead of a guided missile, i would have to believe that an aluminum fuselage has more strength than much heavier TITANIUM ENGINES. Explain your way out of that one mr higgy. 
I don't recall asking you any questions Miss Mowen, but thanks for the offer!
However, as I am really unable to follow your RANT with any real knowledge of what you are really asking, please try to break it down and ask a question to achieve an answer and not just a wild ranting, thank you.
You will see below how simple it is to ask a succinct question and not hide it within a rant of an insane woman!
Okay, you insist it was a guided missile, so I will ask YOU the same question as asked of SRV WHO YOU WILL NOTE DIDN'T ANSWER AND MERELY AVOIDED IT.
If you believe no plane did it, what happened to that plane and the passengers on it?
Here is another one for you, think carefully now. What caused the light posts, 5 of them, to fall down? (Bear in mind, some were measured at a distance apart where a planes wings would hit them.)
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You just confirmed what i had already stated.Now,why the hell hasn't the FBI shared their evidence of a plane hitting the pentagon with you and the rest of the government shills? Could it be the ONLY evidence on them live videos showed a GUIDED MISSILE hitting the pentagon and that would not be beneficial to the whole 9/11 hoax?
It is NOTED that you failed to answer the question posed to you. Why didn't you answer? Scared to answer?
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Guess what retard, i DON'T have to prove shit to you. I have no doubt that i know the clearer truth about all of the bullshit that happened on 9/11 and will waste none of my time trying to prove shit to a brain dead, head in the sand retart like yourself and your other a**hole buddies
This is a typical "I can't prove shit and won't answer questions" Conspiracy Theorist who considers it a waste of time.
In other words "Running Scared". Instead of answering questions posed, they come back with immature rants.
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@higgy51:It is NOTED that you failed to answer the question posed to you. Why didn't you answer? Scared to answer?
he was probably mimicking your own modus operandi.
Maybe you need to learn the proper way to ask a question, hmm...
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Before i answer your bullshit questions, i have one SEVERE question for you. If you can't answer this ONE question then you have no right posting here anymore. It is obvious that a few of you are so damn brain dead and not a damn bit able to think for yourselves, you have no other options but to eat the shit official story that YOUR government spoon feeds you.
QUESTION: Going by the pictures/video that YOU POSTED mr higgy, would you not agree that the 10 foot thick concrete block that the germans rammed that fighter jet into did not budge a damn inch untill the whole fuselage had disenegrated/ shriveled up like an accordian until the jet engine itself hit the concrete block then that concrete block rocked backwards. NOW this brings us to your plane hitting the pentagon theory.NOTICE the only f**kin hole in the pentagon is where the fuselage (supposedly) went thru.Did you notice any holes punched thru the wall of the pentagon where the TITANIUM ENGINES of the aircraft would have hit the wall?????????? To believe your BULLSHIT theory of a plane hitting the pentagon instead of a guided missile, i would have to believe that an aluminum fuselage has more strength than much heavier TITANIUM ENGINES. Explain your way out of that one mr higgy.
FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.
Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."
The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide—not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.
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@higgy51:
FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.
Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."
The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide—not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.
Link?
You can post FACT all you want to; but until you post a verifiable link supporting your statement; then at best, all you have posted is a CLAIM.
You really believe this building ate a Boeing 757?
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Lets look at these so-called witnesses from a financial aspect. The Pentagon was missing 2.3 trillion dollars unaccounted for from Donald Rumsfeld on tv the night before 9-11.
Hey simpleman? They KNEW about the 2.3 trillion back in 1999 and it wasn't "missing". Another conspiracy theory well and truly debunked, several times below.
In fiscal 1999, a defense audit found that about $2.3 trillion of balances, transactions and adjustments were inadequately documented. These "unsupported" transactions do not mean the department ultimately cannot account for them, she advised, but that tracking down needed documents would take a long time. Auditors, she said, might have to go to different computer systems, to different locations or access different databases to get information.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Apr2002/n04032002_200204033.html
Pentagon's finances in disarray
By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/00 5:44 PM Eastern
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday.
The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments.
Each adjustment represents a Defense Department accountant's attempt to correct a discrepancy. The military has hundreds of computer systems to run accounts as diverse as health care, payroll and inventory. But they are not integrated, don't produce numbers up to accounting standards and fail to keep running totals of what's coming in and what's going out, Pentagon and congressional officials said.
http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002hxm
January 7, 2001
The Defense Department's inspector general recently identified $6.9 trillion in accounting entries, but $2.3 trillion was not supported by adequate audit trails or sufficient evidence to determine its validity.
Another $2 trillion worth of entries were not examined because of time constraints, and therefore, the inspector general was able to audit only $2.6 trillion of accounting entries in a $6.9 trillion pot.
Contra Costa Times (California)
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Link?
You can post FACT all you want to; but until you post a verifiable link supporting your statement; then at best, all you have posted is a CLAIM.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/
http://d*ckatlee.com/issues/911/asc/pm/pm6.html
I will remember your comment above.
You might recall I asked you for your proof and naturally, you ignored it. THREE TIMES I asked you, the 3rd time being on Page 7.
I guess you couldn't back up your "FACT", yet demand that others do. Typical CT nutcase.
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@higgy51:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/
http://d*ckatlee.com/issues/911/asc/pm/pm6.html
I will remember your comment above.
You might recall I asked you for your proof and naturally, you ignored it. THREE TIMES I asked you, the 3rd time being on Page 7.
I guess you couldn't back up your "FACT", yet demand that others do. Typical CT nutcase.
Speaking of CT's; the popular mechanics piece was written by Ben Chertoff, brother of Michael Chertoff (yes, THAT Michael Chertoff...the one who let the 5 dancing israelis escape back to israel) and has been widely debunked all over the web.
A fact never admitted to by the ZioShills who LOVE to post BS from it.
How about using a reputable link? Think you can handle that, Moshe?
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Debunking Popular Mechanics' 9/11 Lies
Nepotism, bias, shoddy research and agenda-driven politics
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | August 10 2006
Popular Mechanics has re-entered the media circus in an attempt to continue its 9/11 debunking campaign that began in March of last year. A new book claims to expose the myths of the 9/11 truth movement, yet it is Popular Mechanics who have been exposed as promulgating falsehoods while engaging in nepotism, shoddy research and agenda-driven politics.
It comes as no surprise that Popular Mechanics is owned by Hearst Corporation. As fictionalized in Orson Welles' acclaimed film Citizen Kane, William Randolph Hearst wrote the book on cronyism and yellow journalism and Popular Mechanics hasn't bucked that tradition.
The magazine is a cheerleader for the sophistication of advanced weaponry and new technology used by police in areas such as crowd control and 'anti-terror' operation. A hefty chunk of its advertising revenue relies on the military and defense contractors. Since the invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and in the future Iran all cite 9/11 as a pretext, what motivation does the magazine have to conduct a balanced investigation and risk upsetting its most coveted clientele?
Popular Mechanics' March 2005 front cover story was entitled 'Debunking 9/11 Lies' and has since become the bellwether reference point for all proponents of the official 9/11 fairytale.
Following the publication of the article and its exaltation by the mainstream media as the final nail in the coffin for 9/11 conspiracy theories, it was revealed that senior researcher on the piece Benjamin Chertoff is the cousin of Michael Chertoff, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
This means that Benjamin Chertoff was hired to write an article that would receive nationwide attention, about the veracity of the government's explanation of an event that led directly to the creation of Homeland Security, a body that his own cousin now heads.
This is unparalleled nepotism and completely dissolves the credibility of the article before one has even turned the first page.
The arguments presented in the article have been widely debunked by the 9/11 truth community as an example of a straw man hatchet job - whereby false arguments are erected, attributed to 9/11 skeptics, and then shot down.
One of the most glaring errors in the Popular Mechanics hit piece appears in the 'Intercepts Not Routine' section where it is claimed that, "In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999."
As Jim Hoffman points out in his excellent rebuttal, "This bold assertion flies in the face of a published report of scramble frequencies that quotes the same Maj. Douglas Martin that is one of PM's cited experts!"
"From Sept. 11 to June, NORAD scrambled jets or diverted combat air patrols 462 times, almost seven times as often as the 67 scrambles from September 2000 to June 2001, Martin said."
The article also makes no mention whatsoever of the numerous war games scheduled for the morning of 9/11 which confused air defense personnel as to the true nature of the attack as it unfolded, as is documented by the recent release of the NORAD tapes.
A section on the collapse of the World Trade Center fails to address firefighters and other individuals who reported numerous explosions before the towers fell, squibs of debris seen shooting out of the towers well below the collapse point, and the fact that the towers fell only slightly slower than absolute free fall.
The article was released before analysis conducted by BYU physics Professor Steven Jones discovered traces of thermite in steel samples taken from the World Trade Center.
"Using advanced techniques we're finding out what's in these samples - we're finding iron, sulphur, potassium and manganese - these are characteristic of a variation of thermite which is used to cut through steel very rapidly, it's called thermate," said Professor Jones.
The article regurgitates pancake and truss theories yet fails to acknowledge the comments of WTC construction manager Frank DeMartini (below) who before 9/11 stated that the buildings were designed to take multiple airliner impacts and not collapse.
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The article also completely fails to answer why pools of molten yellow metal were found underneath both towers and Building 7 subsequent to the collapses.
The classic crimp implosion of Building 7, which was not hit by a plane, is glossed over as the piece again tries to mislead its readers into believing that over engineered steel buildings collapse from fire damage - an event unprecedented in world history aside from three examples in one single day.
Commenting on his own interview for the magazine piece, Alex Jones said that initially he thought it was a fake interview or a crank call. Jones has given hundreds of TV and print interviews and thousands of radio interviews but his experience with Benjamin Chertoff was like no other.
"People from school newspapers sound more credible and serious," said Jones.
Jones had to call Popular Mechanics' office and verify that Chertoff actually worked for them. In the course of doing so he was erroneously told by Editor in Chief James Meigs that the story was not going to be a hit piece and that it was simply intended to explore the different theories surrounding 9/11.
In addition, Popular Mechanics highlighted an article that Jones had posted on his website about incendiary devices in the World Trade Center.
Jones' websites feature a cross-section of mainstream and alternative media articles. An article written by Jones himself is clearly labeled as such.
The magazine had contacted the individuals featured in the article who told them that they had never spoken to Jones. The article was clearly attributed to its orginal author - Randy Lavello - and not Alex Jones. When Jones asked Popular Mechanics if they were going to contact the individuals again and ask if they had spoken with the original author, they dropped the subject.
As part of a PR campaign to sell its newly packaged dross, the book 'Debunking 9/11 Lies,' Popular Mechanics' James Meigs appeared on the O'Reilly Factor (watch below).
Meigs and O'Reilly need to be reminded that constantly parroting the word "fact," without presenting any actual evidence, does not make something a fact.
Meigs contradicts himself completely in claiming that, "No one had ever seen a one hundred plus story building collapse to the ground before," and yet less than two minutes later agrees with O'Reilly's comment that nothing unexpected about the impact of the planes or the collapses surprised analysts.
Meigs concurs that it's an unprecedented event and yet claims that analysts knew exactly what was going to happen. How could they have known the ins and outs of an event that had never happened before?
Meigs calls the WTC implosion, "The most closely studied collapse in world history," yet fails to address the fact that 50,000 tons of steel from the WTC, a supposed crime scene, was shipped to Asia and a further 10,000 tons to India, preventing a detailed analysis.
Meigs, citing opinions of engineers, bizarrely states that, "The real surprise is that the building stood up as long as it did."
In February 2005, The Windsor building in Madrid (pictured) burned for over 24 hours as shooting flames engulfed almost the entire structure and yet the building did not collapse. The core of the WTC was exponentially more robust than the Windsor building. So we have one building that burned incessantly for over 24 hours and did not fall, compared to two buildings which were structurally far superior, burned briefly from limited fires, and yet both collapsed within an average time of 79 minutes - and Meigs claims they should have collapsed sooner!
Meigs claims that Popular Mechanics' investigation is "not political," and yet the foreword to their book is written by none other than GOP darling Senator John McCain.
In the foreword McCain re-hashes an abhorrent amount of Neo-Con detritus that relies solely on 9/11 having happened exactly as the government claims it did.
"We liberated Afghanistan from the murderous rule of the Taliban, our attackers' proud hosts. We chased Al Qaeda around the globe," barks McCain.
Afghanistan is now a failed narco-state run by tribal warlords and ex-Taliban kingpins, nowhere outside of Kabul is secure, malnutrition amongst children is the highest in the world outside Africa, and opium production is at record levels. Bellicose statements about chasing Al-Qaeda around the globe are somewhat contradicted by the fact that Al-Qaeda-Iraq links were proven to be fraudulent and outgoing CIA director AB “Buzzy” Krongard told the London Times that Bin Laden should stay free. Couple this with President Bush's view on Bin Laden - "I truly am not that concerned about him," and McCain's rhetoric falls flat on its face.
McCain also uses the callous tactic of saying that questioning the government's version of 9/11 insults the victims and this is also parroted in the Popular Mechanics magazine piece.
Let's hear what Bill Doyle, representative of the largest group of 9/11 family members has to say on this subject.
"If you want to believe what they want to snow you under on like the 9/11 Commission - that's a total fallacy," said Doyle.
"It looks like there was a conspiracy behind 9/11 if you really look at all the facts - a lot of families now feel the same way."
Doyle said that half of the family members - relatives of the 9/11 victims - he represents thought that the US government was complicit in 9/11.
Despite the efforts of Popular Mechanics to whitewash government complicity in 9/11 via a front page feature story and a new book, recent polls clearly show an increasing trend towards a rejection of the official version of events.
If we are to set aside the 30% of Americans that do not even know the year in which September 11 happened, then we are left with figures of around 36% who agree that the government was involved in the attack and only 34% of Americans who actually know in which year the attack took place that still think it was carried out solely by a rag-tag group of 19 incompetent morons who couldn't fly Cessna's at the behest of a man on a kidney dialysis machine.
Popular Mechanics are sure to make a tidy sum of money from their latest publication, but their credibility is certain to dwindle in light of the fact that they are willingly acting as collaborators by aiding the cover-up of a crime that resulted in the deaths of nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11 and untold more to come as a result of how the attack changed US foreign policy.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/100806popularmechanics.htm
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Classic Crisis Actor - 9/11 " WITNESS "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FeQzpNqHG4
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Classic Crisis Actor - 9/11 " WITNESS "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FeQzpNqHG4
(2013) 9/11 Actor Exposed - Fake Witness Live on TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z45hI6YuC-I
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Classic Crisis Actor - 9/11 " WITNESS "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FeQzpNqHG4
This is your REPUTABLE link, a YOUTUBE video???
Grow up.
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It is a video of a genuine 911 newscast on September 11, 2001. Watch the video, Moshe.
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Same Crisis Actor Interviewed at LAX Shooting and 9/11 Twin Towers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzog9yTRVNQ
Published on Nov 6, 2013
Crisis actor busted! Nick Pugh was interviewed at the LAX shooting and on 9/11 just after the towers came down. Why did the police let him go from an airport shooting when he had no I.D. and no plane ticket?????
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I did and so what? Well, I watched about 3 minutes of it so please, please tell me how that even SUGGESTS he is a crisis actor?
What about the other 130 eye witnesses, got youtubes of them (laughing).
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911 HOAX NAILED WTC FRAUD CRISIS ACTORS DUSTED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEHC2hXP8iw
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@higgy51:
I did and so what? Well, I watched about 3 minutes of it so please, please tell me how that even SUGGESTS he is a crisis actor?
What about the other 130 eye witnesses, got youtubes of them
Link?
Like I said before Moshe, you can SAY anything you want to but without a link to support your statement then at best it is only a CLAIM.
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911 twin towers witness's [ Actors & Agents]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKrEgT2UdLY
Uploaded on Jun 5, 2007
theirs 3 witness's to the 2nd explosion
1 is cut off, the other 2 are psyop buddies, at 52 seconds you will see a third guy to right hand side!! he is also present when the screaming women is getting interviewed.
These people who claim they saw the plane are scum. But loads saw it blow up and no plane. And sep clues futhers the accuracy of what happend. TV FAKERY EXPOSE
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@higgy51:
I did and so what? Well, I watched about 3 minutes of it so please, please tell me how that even SUGGESTS he is a crisis actor?
What about the other 130 eye witnesses, got youtubes of them
Link?
Like I said before Moshe, you can SAY anything you want to but without a link to support your statement then at best it is only a CLAIM.
Can't answer my question? Or WON'T answer? How does it prove he's a crisis actor?
http://www.debate.org/debates/It-is-beyond-a-reasonable-doubt-that-flight-77-hit-the-Pentagon/1/
The conclusion of the evidence is indisputable.
To accept as a reasonable possibility that flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon, one would have to first directly confront the evidence concluding that it did. It is inconceivable that out of the 136 reported eyewitnesses, or the other few hundred people within a clear vicinity of the Pentagon, not *one* eyewitness reported then or even to this day that they saw something other then a commercial airplane hit the Pentagon. Nor is there a reasonable hypothesis to how the pieces of flight 77 including its black box found its way to the impact zone if it did not crash there. And the DNA evidence concludes that Flight 77 was the only possible airplane which may have been responsible for the damage. The evidence tells a clear and consistent story.
If flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon then something else did. In over a decade after 9/11 no one has been able to provide evidence supporting any coherent alternative to the official story.
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| 4/21/2015 3:45:31 AM |
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markjetson
Albuquerque, NM
59, joined Jan. 2013
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This is for 57> A friend of mine who was a practicing doctor at a hospital along the supposed flight path of flight 11 in NYC on 9/11, told his story to me on the 11th of this month. I had heard it before but I had asked him to repeat it in more detail. Shortly before the "first attack" he said, while at work, he had gone to a room on the 17th floor to lay down, (he was a resident) he said it was a nice day and the window was open. Shortly after a co-worker came to tell him a plane had hit the WTC. They went to the roof and could see the damage. He then told his co-worker, "but I didn't hear any Airliner, I should have heard it." There's more.....about 200+ hr long shows on one of the local Public Access channels, archived on Vimeo.
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| 4/21/2015 7:08:20 AM |
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nat_now
Ocala, FL
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http://youtu.be/Ra8YmZThpgE
Sounds like a plane
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
49, joined Jan. 2011
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I couldnt hear what was going on, there was a plane flying over...
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| 4/21/2015 12:08:16 PM |
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57channels
Paducah, KY
64, joined May. 2008
online now!
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Mark
thank you just another tiny tad bit of evidence to pretty much prove that no planes flew on 9 11 out of the 4 alledged planes that day.
I think that if the cameras had not malfunctioned they would have created an image to crash in the World Trade Center number 7 and said it was flight 93.
I'm guessing that was the plan have a fake plane crash in the World Trade Center number 7, claim it was Flight 93 and can you imagine the outrage?? We would already be in Iran if that it happened.
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nat_now
Ocala, FL
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Can't imagine needing a catastrophe on a homeland to do the same as we could, had we just gone to the persian gulf and started there,.. and said we were taking action to PROTECT OUR INTERESTS... <<< that has always passed as reason enough. (By most) I mean, hell, just tell Americans if they don't go there, your car will be useless soon and that's support enough... at least "back then" it would have been.
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| 4/21/2015 12:21:44 PM |
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
60, joined Nov. 2012
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@higgy51:
I suppose ALL AND EACH AND EVERY ONE of those above were government plants?
Quite a few of the "witnesses" have admitted to being crisis actors who were paid to portray the role of a " 911 witness".
I was right there. I saw the plane pass right overhead. it was loud ! ... turns out to be a line from a script.
No more than that.
Now, when I asked you THREE TIMES to show proof of this so called claim of yours, what did you do?
You posted a Youtube of someone being interviewed.
Now, care to inform me at which minute and second of the interview(s) did the "witness" ever admit to being a crisis actor?
You should never demand proof or links when you yourself are so unable to provide them.
Proof of your rather silly statement about them admitting to be crisis actors....proof please.
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