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naprinciple

West Plains, MO
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Isn't it high time we get rid of slave owners on our money then? Monuments to them in DC? Disregard the documents they signed, as they were clearly immoral people?
Come on people, let's not take half measures
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7/31/2015 1:04:25 PM |
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thekinghasrisen

San Diego, CA
30, joined Nov. 2013
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Isn't it high time we get rid of slave owners on our money then? Monuments to them in DC? Disregard the documents they signed, as they were clearly immoral people?
Come on people, let's not take half measures 
I don't think it's a zero-sum proposition. Some people have a knee-jerk reaction of taking things to their furthest natural conclusion to try and draw a correlative point between the issue at hand and the presumptive'end game' (yes, I'm looking at you Rush 'The American Flag is Next' Limbaugh).
Why would there be a need to do such things? From my understanding, there's no public outcry for it. 
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7/31/2015 1:07:02 PM |
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naprinciple

West Plains, MO
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I don't think it's a zero-sum proposition. Some people have a knee-jerk reaction of taking things to their furthest natural conclusion to try and draw a correlative point between the issue at hand and the presumptive'end game' (yes, I'm looking at you Rush 'The American Flag is Next' Limbaugh).
Why would there be a need to do such things? From my understanding, there's no public outcry for it. 
Does a principled government do what's right, or just react to whims of the population?
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7/31/2015 1:08:22 PM |
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thekinghasrisen

San Diego, CA
30, joined Nov. 2013
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Does a principled government do what's right, or just react to whims of the population? 
It's not a quid-pro-quo in most cases. It can do both. Besides...it doesn't have much of a choice given the fact that his is indeed a republic and a representative democracy (...in theory). 
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7/31/2015 1:13:53 PM |
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naprinciple

West Plains, MO
46, joined Feb. 2014
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Can it do both if the whims of the people are immoral?
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7/31/2015 1:34:18 PM |
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thekinghasrisen

San Diego, CA
30, joined Nov. 2013
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Can it do both if the whims of the people are immoral?
Well, technically yes: but the prospect of that happening assumes three very unlikely things:
1. There is one single universal set of morality.
2. The majority of Americans can be made to agree on that standard.
3. A representative government would not reflect similar morals to the majority (and thus have the will and/or political capital to act against their constituents). 
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7/31/2015 1:42:23 PM |
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naprinciple

West Plains, MO
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Well, technically yes: but the prospect of that happening assumes three very unlikely things:
1. There is one single universal set of morality.
2. The majority of Americans can be made to agree on that standard.
3. A representative government would not reflect similar morals to the majority (and thus have the will and/or political capital to act against their constituents). 
There is a universal set of morality, and it's really simple.
Do whatever you like, so long as you don't harm others, persons or property.
The main problem is government violates this simple tenant, with its very existence.
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7/31/2015 1:50:17 PM |
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hercules2010

Dubois, IN
54, joined May. 2014
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)
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7/31/2015 1:51:31 PM |
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thekinghasrisen

San Diego, CA
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There is a universal set of morality, and it's really simple.
Do whatever you like, so long as you don't harm others, persons or property.
The main problem is government violates this simple tenant, with its very existence. 
A universal moral code like that would never see it's way past a generation or two without the ability to protect it from organized threats. In a free society like that after all...some folks will use their 'freedom' to break said moral code. You get more than one of those people to agree on such an action and now you have a threat greater than one free man (even with a gun) can logically address on his own.
Also (arguably more importantly): other more organized entities would carve us up like a Christmas turkey (not unlike we did to other civilizations). 
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7/31/2015 1:56:13 PM |
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thekinghasrisen

San Diego, CA
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Some people have a knee-jerk reaction of taking things to their furthest natural conclusion to try and draw a correlative point between the issue at hand and the presumptive'end game'
Yes we must do what ever it takes to make the Wetbacks and n**gers happy!
If it means re-writing history to show blacks did everything from designing the pyramids, started all great civilizations, invented every modern device, to having average IQ's in the 150 range while whitey is a mere 105, so be it.
If it will keep blacks from killing whitey and raping his women, so be it.
Point proven.
That actually took less time than I expected. Any way. 
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7/31/2015 2:50:21 PM |
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lennyjohn58

Albuquerque, NM
56, joined Feb. 2015
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I wish you would erase your history. Future as well.
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8/1/2015 12:15:52 PM |
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testsignup

Springfield, VA
62, joined Sep. 2009
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Isn't it high time we get rid of slave owners on our money then? Monuments to them in DC? Disregard the documents they signed, as they were clearly immoral people?
Come on people, let's not take half measures 
Your "suggestions" go too far, I think. Take them off the money? I don't care. Eliminate the monuments to them? Saves money on tax-payer maintenance.
But disregard the documents they wrote? Erase our entire History?
That's obvious, or at least SHOULD be obvious nonsense.
We have steadily CORRECTED the documents they wrote, to eliminate the support for slavery that was built in to them. Continue to do that.
Your "completely erase our history" comment makes it clear that you personally are being entirely sarcastic and negative in this thread.
So, should we seriously discuss the ideas behind your sarcasm? Yes.
Should we use this thread as a model to do so? Nope. It's not designed to do that.
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8/1/2015 12:54:03 PM |
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lobo_corazon

Orleans, ON
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If people look at some monument and are moved to believe that other races are naturally inferior to their own, then yes, we should take it down.
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8/1/2015 6:52:25 PM |
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naprinciple

West Plains, MO
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Your "suggestions" go too far, I think. Take them off the money? I don't care. Eliminate the monuments to them? Saves money on tax-payer maintenance.
But disregard the documents they wrote? Erase our entire History?
That's obvious, or at least SHOULD be obvious nonsense.
We have steadily CORRECTED the documents they wrote, to eliminate the support for slavery that was built in to them. Continue to do that.
Your "completely erase our history" comment makes it clear that you personally are being entirely sarcastic and negative in this thread.
So, should we seriously discuss the ideas behind your sarcasm? Yes.
Should we use this thread as a model to do so? Nope. It's not designed to do that.
I'm 100% serious about tossing the Constitution out as an immoral document
I'm playing off the ridiculous flag drama to make a very serious point
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8/1/2015 9:07:12 PM |
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jeffb1981

Mendocino, CA
34, joined Jul. 2013
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No, symbols and monuments are just that. Moving graves to appease peoples wittle feewings is beyond stupid. All of these actions against things from history is just proof positive Americans are pussies.

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8/1/2015 9:09:35 PM |
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nycman530

New York, NY
62, joined Dec. 2010
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Isn't it high time we get rid of slave owners on our money then? Monuments to them in DC? Disregard the documents they signed, as they were clearly immoral people?
Come on people, let's not take half measures 
Maybe put Kid Rock or Willie Mays on a hundred dollar bill.
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8/1/2015 9:17:27 PM |
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nat_now

Ocala, FL
56, joined Jul. 2013
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If people look at some monument and are moved to believe that other races are naturally inferior to their own, then yes, we should take it down.
Moved to believe?
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8/1/2015 9:21:51 PM |
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loving91390

Santa Clarita, CA
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Moved to believe?
And why does the Canadian say ... " WE " should take it down ???
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8/1/2015 9:34:26 PM |
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loving91390

Santa Clarita, CA
58, joined Apr. 2013
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And why does the Canadian say ... " WE " should take it down ???
And BTW ... He has me blocked ... So that question is for all .
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8/1/2015 9:42:32 PM |
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bluecougareyes

Chelan, WA
71, joined Nov. 2008
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If people look at some monument and are moved to believe that other races are naturally inferior to their own, then yes, we should take it down.
Is that what the Canadian Socialistic Government does ?
Remove Canada's history ??
Sound like a real good thing for CANADA to do !!! 
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8/1/2015 9:46:38 PM |
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bluecougareyes

Chelan, WA
71, joined Nov. 2008
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Re-writing of history... 
The NEW future...
Hmmmm. Food for thought
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8/1/2015 10:46:43 PM |
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testsignup

Springfield, VA
62, joined Sep. 2009
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I'm 100% serious about tossing the Constitution out as an immoral document
I'm playing off the ridiculous flag drama to make a very serious point 
Balderdash. You are NOT serious about tossing out the Constitution. If you were, then you would be lying when you say "I'm playing off the ridiculous flag drama to make a very serious point."
You can play it one way or the other, but not both. So which is the lie?
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8/1/2015 11:09:00 PM |
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naprinciple

West Plains, MO
46, joined Feb. 2014
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Balderdash. You are NOT serious about tossing out the Constitution. If you were, then you would be lying when you say "I'm playing off the ridiculous flag drama to make a very serious point."
You can play it one way or the other, but not both. So which is the lie?
You realize I'm an anarchist, right? You realize a flag is an inanimate object, right?
Government is immoral, and pretending banning a flag will do anything helpful for race relations is ridiculous
Are those two positions really mutually exclusive in your mind?
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8/2/2015 7:56:47 AM |
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testsignup

Springfield, VA
62, joined Sep. 2009
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You realize I'm an anarchist, right? You realize a flag is an inanimate object, right?
Government is immoral, and pretending banning a flag will do anything helpful for race relations is ridiculous
Are those two positions really mutually exclusive in your mind? 
No, since you didn't post that you [think you] are an anarchist in this thread, I did not know that. But being an anarchist does not excuse a failure to reason logically.
Yes, I know that a flag is inanimate, unless it's made from living creatures. Do YOU realize that what a flag symbolizes is NOT inanimate? And that what flags symbolize is what the concerns and arguments are about, and not the fabric they are printed on?
As for "pretending that banning a flag (which has NOT been done, and has not been seriously proposed) will do anything helpful for race relations" being ridiculous, that has not been done. No one is PRETENDING that it will help race relations for the governments of states to reverse their ancestors decisions to build race-based symbology into their flags, and to purposely use symbols of the Confederacy to demonstrate their opposition to racial equality. They are actively and directly pointing out correctly that it will.
And yes, your "positions" ARE mutually exclusive. Not just in my mind, but in the real world. If you were ACTUALLY an anarchist, you would be OPPOSED to governments using flag symbology to declare their support for oppression of the people of their states.
But you clearly SUPPORT the governments continuing to directly support racial inequality, while you PRETEND that you oppose all governments.
Zen emoti yourself some time, and you MIGHT be able to reason a little more honestly with yourself.
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8/2/2015 8:04:09 AM |
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mizgal

Saint Paul, MN
25, joined Apr. 2015
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There's a particular reason we learn history.
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8/2/2015 8:06:26 AM |
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mizgal

Saint Paul, MN
25, joined Apr. 2015
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Yes we must do what ever it takes to make the Wetbacks and n**gers happy!
If it means re-writing history to show blacks did everything from designing the pyramids, started all great civilizations, invented every modern device, to having average IQ's in the 150 range while whitey is a mere 105, so be it.
If it will keep blacks from killing whitey and raping his women, so be it.
But just look at every African nation run by blacks and you will see what kind of shithole everything turns to when they run things!
No one is rewriting history to make black ppl happy. We are just telling the hard truth that white supremacists' egos can't handle.
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8/2/2015 8:11:18 AM |
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naprinciple

West Plains, MO
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No, since you didn't post that you [think you] are an anarchist in this thread, I did not know that. But being an anarchist does not excuse a failure to reason logically.
Yes, I know that a flag is inanimate, unless it's made from living creatures. Do YOU realize that what a flag symbolizes is NOT inanimate? And that what flags symbolize is what the concerns and arguments are about, and not the fabric they are printed on?
As for "pretending that banning a flag (which has NOT been done, and has not been seriously proposed) will do anything helpful for race relations" being ridiculous, that has not been done. No one is PRETENDING that it will help race relations for the governments of states to reverse their ancestors decisions to build race-based symbology into their flags, and to purposely use symbols of the Confederacy to demonstrate their opposition to racial equality. They are actively and directly pointing out correctly that it will.
And yes, your "positions" ARE mutually exclusive. Not just in my mind, but in the real world. If you were ACTUALLY an anarchist, you would be OPPOSED to governments using flag symbology to declare their support for oppression of the people of their states.
But you clearly SUPPORT the governments continuing to directly support racial inequality, while you PRETEND that you oppose all governments.
Zen emoti yourself some time, and you MIGHT be able to reason a little more honestly with yourself.
I object to all government flags as oppressive to all people, while you single out the Virgina battle flag. 
I can't have an honest debate with a man who thinks he knows more about what goes on in my mind than I do
Edit: Do you object to a giant phallic symbol erected in DC to honor a slave owner?
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8/2/2015 9:53:25 AM |
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testsignup

Springfield, VA
62, joined Sep. 2009
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I object to all government flags as oppressive to all people, while you single out the Virgina battle flag.
I can't have an honest debate with a man who thinks he knows more about what goes on in my mind than I do.
Riiiiight. Guess you didn't look at your own posts before you said THAT out loud.
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8/2/2015 10:13:13 AM |
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nat_now

Ocala, FL
56, joined Jul. 2013
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No one is rewriting history to make black ppl happy. We are just telling the hard truth that white supremacists' egos can't handle. 
Blacks be like "no way white are supreme, blacks are da supreme"

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8/4/2015 8:30:41 PM |
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fellowforyou

New York, NY
65, joined Jan. 2010
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You need a bigger eraser.
Maybe a jumbo size of white out.
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