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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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"...without the shedding of blood there is no remission."
--Hebrews 9:22
You have the mindset of ancient man who believed killing a goat once a year atoned for sin and it is inexcusable that you still believe this. God is not some kind of a blood thirsty double-minded God righteous one day and murderous the next, ordering man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all sorts of absurd reasons and unwilling to forgive man for sin until He has received a blood sacrifice of the innocent. And the fact this is what you believe shows how morally corrupt and spiritually dead you really are.
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| 3/24/2016 5:13:59 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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God's ways are not our ways. Sin is horrible. Only the horrible suffering and death of Jesus could atone for it. The sacrifice of goats and other animals in the Old Testament prefigured the sacrifice of Jesus.
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| 3/24/2016 7:29:44 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Ludlow, its blasphemy for you to call yourself a Christian.
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| 3/25/2016 12:23:04 AM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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Ludlow, its blasphemy for you to call yourself a Christian.
I agree. Jesus says that Ludlow doesn't even love God.
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| 3/25/2016 1:38:29 AM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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God's ways are not our ways.
That's for sure. God's ways are not your ways. God says, "Call no man your father upon the earth: "for one is your Father, which is in heaven." (Matthew 23:9)
That's God's way. And you say essentially, "To hell with you God, I'm going to do it my way and call all priests, "Father."
Sin is horrible.
Disobedience to God is horrible-er.
You don't even know what sin is.
148:4.4 “Sin is the measure of unwillingness to be divinely led and spiritually directed." The Urantia Book
And Jesus, who you refuse to obey, says that if you forgive others, your sins will be forgiven.
But you don't believe Him or love Him.
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| 3/25/2016 7:25:12 AM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Sin, and disobedience to God, are the same thing.
Unrepentant sinners hope their is no Hell. Unrepentant sinners hope in vain.
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| 3/25/2016 10:15:01 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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So you are clearly a corrupt fool to be a unrepentant sinner, right, Ludlow? How could it be otherwise?
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| 3/25/2016 10:50:18 AM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Right!
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| 3/25/2016 11:40:56 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You are clearly a corrupt fool by your own admission. 
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| 3/25/2016 1:40:42 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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If you have repented of your sins, I'm glad you did. If you haven't, I hope you will.
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| 3/25/2016 2:57:14 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You are the corrupt fool that hasn't repented not me.
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| 3/25/2016 3:08:37 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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If you have repented of your sins, I'm glad you did. If you haven't, I hope you will.
If you have decided to follow Jesus and obey Him and show Him thereby that you love God, I'm glad you did. If you haven't, I hope you will.
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| 3/25/2016 3:11:56 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Sunday morning I will obey Him and eat His Body and drink His Blood.
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| 3/25/2016 3:17:14 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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Sunday morning I will obey Him and eat His Body and drink His Blood.
Sunday, your sin-day, you will disobey Him and call priests, "Father."
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| 3/25/2016 3:21:46 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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If you let your children call you "Dad", and if St. Paul can call Abraham our father in faith, I call call my priest " Father". (This Sunday, it being Easter, he probably will be too busy for me to talk to him anyway.)
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| 3/25/2016 3:50:18 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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If you let your children call you "Dad", and if St. Paul can call Abraham our father in faith, I call call my priest " Father". (This Sunday, it being Easter, he probably will be too busy for me to talk to him anyway.)
When you talk to your priest ask him if he is striving to believe as Jesus believed and thus to become more like Him or is he just striving to uphold Catholic doctrine about the book they compiled?
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| 3/25/2016 6:50:16 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I think that my pastor, Father Ted Sosnowski, is a very Christ-like man. He grew up in Communist Poland and knows firsthand what severe persecution of the Church is like.
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| 3/25/2016 7:12:17 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Well, ask him if he actually believes Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for these reasons and tell us what he says.
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
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| 3/25/2016 8:14:30 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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I think that my pastor, Father Ted Sosnowski, is a very Christ-like man. He grew up in Communist Poland and knows firsthand what severe persecution of the Church is like.
Calling him "Father" is forbidden by Jesus. Please don't call anyone "Father" on my threads who is not God.
Why don't you obey Jesus?
Look at how proud and obstinate and willful you are, refusing to follow Jesus and His simple command not to call priests, "Father."
"Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46)
Your life would change for the better if you simply obeyed God.
Do me a favor, Lud, obey Jesus every day for a year, and if you do it with an open mind, I guarantee you will grow closer to Jesus.
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| 3/25/2016 8:29:06 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I called my own father "Dad" until he died in 1992 and God didn't zap me.
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| 3/25/2016 9:13:46 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Are you going to ask your priest if he actually believes Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those reasons I listed, Ludlow? Or, are you afraid too?
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| 3/25/2016 9:29:07 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Most of those things on that list are mortal sins. Unrepentant sinners face far worse than stoning on Judgment Day.
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| 3/25/2016 9:36:41 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Are you going to ask your priest if he actually believes Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those reasons I listed, Ludlow? Or, are you afraid too?
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| 3/25/2016 10:10:26 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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If he doesn't believe it he isn't a good priest.
God is not the sweet little marshmallow you think He is. God means business.
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| 3/25/2016 10:57:21 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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The term, "mortal sin" is not in the bible. It's another made up Catholic term, unbiblical and unnecessary.
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| 3/25/2016 11:08:43 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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No, but the term "sin unto death" is, and it's the same thing. See 1 John 5:16.
I thought you didn't believe in the Bible.
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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[]Quote from ludlowlowell:[/][]No, but the term "sin unto death" is, and it's the same thing. See 1 John 5:16.
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You don't even love God. Why should I listen to you every time you say one thing is the same thing as another so that you can make your beliefs come out even? And you don't believe in the bible either. See Matthew 23:9.
sin is the attitude of a personality who is knowingly resisting cosmic reality.
sin is a purposeful resistance to divine reality—a conscious choosing to oppose spiritual progress
sin is a deliberate transgression of the divine will
Sin is the conscious, knowing, and deliberate transgression of the divine law, the Father’s will.
Sin is the measure of unwillingness to be divinely led and spiritually directed.
sin is not the child of a defective nature but rather the offspring of a knowing mind dominated by an unsubmissive will.
Sin is the act of conscious and deliberate rebellion against the Father’s will and the Sons’ laws by an individual will creature.
The final result of wholehearted sin is annihilation. In the last analysis, such sin-identified individuals have destroyed themselves by becoming wholly unreal through their embrace of iniquity. -The Urantia Book
"Jesus, the reason I refuse to obey you is because..."
You finish it, Lud.
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| 3/26/2016 1:24:18 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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The Urantia Book teaches racism, eugenics, and 700,000 pagan gods because....
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| 3/26/2016 3:47:33 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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The Urantia Book teaches racism, eugenics, and 700,000 pagan gods because....
No it doesn't. You haven't read it. You're an ignorant man in the truest sense of the word, expounding on something you know little or nothing about.
You're lashing out uncontrollably because you're trying to serve two masters which is impossible and you're caught serving your church instead of God and that's because your Satanic church has convinced you that it is God.
"Jesus IS the Church, and the Church is Jesus.
Jesus=Church
Church=Jesus
Jesus=Church
Church=Jesus
Jesus=Church
Church=Jesus"
"Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46)
Just answer Jesus: "Jesus, the reason I refuse to obey you is because..."
You're in deep spiritual trouble.
Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
You love your master the church and you despise God, who should be your real one and only master.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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You love your 700,000 masters.
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| 3/26/2016 7:45:52 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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The Urantia Book teaches racism, eugenics, and 700,000 pagan gods because....
You are a corrupt liar who is spiritually dead.
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| 3/26/2016 9:05:26 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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You love your 700,000 masters.
You don't love God at all.
Your master is your church. You can't serve two masters so you throw God under the bus.
If you loved Him you'd obey Him. It's that simple. He knows you do not love Him.
"Call no man your father upon the earth: "for one is your Father, which is in heaven." (Matthew 23:9)
Jesus: "Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46)
“Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” (Mark 7:9)
"If a man love me, he will keep my words."(John 14:23)
"He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings." (John 14:24)
And the word which you have heard, is not mine; but the Father's who sent me." (John 14:24)
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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No man can serve two masters. But you are trying to serve 700,000 of them.
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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No man can serve two masters. But you are trying to serve 700,000 of them.
No, I'm not. I only try to serve God. The Creator Sons, like Jesus, are God.
But you don't even obey Him. And He says you do not love Him.
"Call no man your father upon the earth: "for one is your Father, which is in heaven." (Matthew 23:9)
Jesus: "Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46)
“Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.” (Mark 7:9)
"If a man love me, he will keep my words."(John 14:23)
"He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings." (John 14:24)
And the word which you have heard, is not mine; but the Father's who sent me." (John 14:24)
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