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9/28/2008 6:29:22 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

rig216
Red Deer, AB
age: 46


Quote from bubba19682007:
I know china is slowl realizing communisim doesnt work, but here theyare determined to put us into the thick of it. and all anone here does is throw blame and no solutions, meantime its falling apart at the seams. everyone is sooo apathetic they are afraid to TRY to do something. When di this country become a bunch of WIMPS.


Chinese Corp. have been quietly expanding all over the world for many years. They must have a lot of money, they recently announced a $30 billion oil sand project in Alberta. What is their short and long term goals?

9/28/2008 6:39:08 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

bubba19682007
Indianapolis, IN
age: 40


now Im really pissed china gets to develop oil sand and our moronic country wont let us drill for te largest deposits of oil on the planet IN our own country, but I'll bet they would buy it from china. just like the Iraqi oil,,,china buys it from Iraq and we but it from china and these are the same people that ae supposed to fix the banking business?

9/28/2008 8:07:12 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

youngcharliemac
Las Vegas, NV
age: 26


Good point rig made and was what I was going to say after reading your post before it. If communism doesn't work, then how is China buying up all our debts. Ive never been to China, have you? I have no idea what it's like there except from what media tells me. I love chinese culture, I think it's beautiful, and taoism is my favorite religion and that came from China. Ive never seen any proof that China is such a horrible place. The only way I could make that assumption would be if I believed everything Im told, and I dont.

Which brings me to a question I was going to ask you after you posted the communist manifesto but I chose not to. Why does anything resembling communism make it automatically bad?

9/28/2008 8:18:17 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

wvtravlr
Ravenswood, WV
age: 49


Heres an Original idea..How about we do away with the Democratic slush funds known as Fannie Mae And Freddie Mac..That IS where all this stuff started..They realized they were in trouble 2 yrs. ago and Dems rolled them into packages and sold them on the open market trying to cover theyre BUTTS..These Financial institutions bought them thinking they were Government secured Mortgages..Then got stuck with them when the housing market collapsed..So in a sense they are buy back that which they sold to start with...
Get the moneylenders out of Congress just like JC got the moneylenders out of the church!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9/28/2008 8:18:27 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

bubba19682007
Indianapolis, IN
age: 40


Charlie, beause with communisim,,,instead of having the right to think for yourself,,,or do anything for that matter. te government tells you what to think, do, what job you can or cant have, where and when you can go anywhere, basicly yougive up all your freedoms, for the greater good of the state. that is what communisim does. that is the basis of it. and thas what our government wants to do here. btw, I have been to china. was in Hong Kong when the british owned it. if you tried to go into mainland china they would shoot you on site. but the chinese that were lucky enough to be in Hong Kong, never wanted it to go back t the chinese and never wanted to go back to mainland.

9/28/2008 9:25:10 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

youngcharliemac
Las Vegas, NV
age: 26


Like I said bubba, Ive never seen any proof that China is such a horrible place. The only way I could make that assumption would be if I believed everything Im told, and I dont.

and again, if communism doesn't work, then how is China buying up all our debts.

9/28/2008 9:33:55 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

barbarajt
Rochester, NY
age: 38


yeah funny how taxes go up and congress paychecks get bigger.... they arent the ones suffering, they are gaining... do you think they give a crap about people who struggle??

9/28/2008 9:40:04 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

foxy_woman_49
Omaha, NE
age: 50


Nope they dont give a rats ass!

9/28/2008 9:42:52 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

lust4love
Atco, NJ
age: 37


No,infact people should withdraw all their savings out of the bank just to mess with the governments heads,



[Edited 9/28/2008 9:49:25 PM]

9/28/2008 9:47:48 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

youngcharliemac
Las Vegas, NV
age: 26


Im watching C-SPAN. Its almost 1 in the morning over there, and they are still debating in Washington. I was under the impression that it was Rep. holding the bill back (silly me for listening to the people in these forums and fox news). Right now, there is only one Republican in the house, but dozens of Democrats. Turn to it. They are arguing their hearts out about this bill. I am very proud, I really am. They are exposing a lot of bullshit about it that we dont know.

9/28/2008 9:50:36 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

youngcharliemac
Las Vegas, NV
age: 26


For example everyone thought they removed that, unquestionable clause that Paulsin asked for, but the didn't. It still says that whatever happens with the money, no one involved would have to answer to the judiciary branch. Meaning, we can question them but we cant do anything about it. They are immune from any criminal charges.

Also they talked about how this exact same thing happened in the 80s but worse. The FDIC took care of that with having to take a dime of the tax payers money. ALSO, IT NOT EVEN REQUIRED THAT THEY PAY US BACk! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!



[Edited 9/28/2008 9:55:08 PM]

9/28/2008 9:59:15 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

shegotit
Houston, TX
age: 25


Quote from lust4love:
No,infact people should withdraw all their savings out of the bank just to mess with the governments heads,



This is funny.....but the truth of it is that in the end we as tax payers will only have a say at the polls...and that doesnt gaurantee that we will be free of not contributing. I feel that the government has set us up for failure. Basically. I really get upset when I begin to think about it, because it seems there is no help for the taxpayers...no way to escape it. My opinion..and JMO..if it comes down to it pick paying your taxes over going to jail.

9/28/2008 10:02:37 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

barbarajt
Rochester, NY
age: 38


Quote from youngcharliemac:
For example everyone thought they removed that, unquestionable clause that Paulsin asked for, but the didn't. It still says that whatever happens with the money, no one involved would have to answer to the judiciary branch. Meaning, we can question them but we cant do anything about it. They are immune from any criminal charges.

Also they talked about how this exact same thing happened in the 80s but worse. The FDIC took care of that with having to take a dime of the tax payers money. ALSO, IT NOT EVEN REQUIRED THAT THEY PAY US BACk! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!



why you think they gave out tax rebate checks, lol... to make us think they were doing a favor... in reality that gets paid back too!!!

9/28/2008 10:10:55 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

wvtravlr
Ravenswood, WV
age: 49


LOL..rebate checks...You wanna know where my 1200 went..Gerge W. paid off my back taxes..
at least Im out from under the IRS now...Gee Thanks Georgie..LOL


9/28/2008 10:23:16 PM Should tax payers be held accoutable for the debt of the Gov.?  

youngcharliemac
Las Vegas, NV
age: 26


I think big business got pissed off that we might get Obama in the white house and he's going to repeal the Bush tax cuts for them, so they got pissed and staged a market crash. Now they get a 700 billion dollar check that they dont have to pay back. So for the next 4 years they're are laughing their a** off going, "Ha, these silly fools, we're only giving them back the money they gave us."


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