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10/16/2008 7:58:31 AM Minimum wage  

dunitall
Buckley, WA
age: 44


What'da think should we have it lowered, Then whats next, Once you give in a inch, they'll take a mile. It'll be hard to regain that loss. I cant even imagine what people go thur working for minimum wage. How do they survive. Thats what Rossi thinks! I'm not trying to get poltical. I just dont like the ideal

10/16/2008 8:07:38 AM Minimum wage  

lifetimeskier
Olympia, WA
age: 47


Why would we wanna go backwards and cut our min. wage???This is the first I have heard of this...So Rossi wants to go backwards????That would be a bad move is how I feel about that...

10/16/2008 9:12:34 AM Minimum wage  

wish2bagain
Olympia, WA
age: 58


Claim: Dino wants to lower the minimum wage for working adults by $1.50.

Fact: Rossi actually supports a stair-step training wage that would only apply to youth 18 years and under.

When asked at the AWB debate if he would support a stair-step training wage, which would begin at $1.50 less than the minimum wage and then ramp up from there, Rossi said:

“Would I be open to some of these ideas? You bet, especially a training wage. You think about how many young people are being cheated out of their first job. Getting the idea of going to work, fulfilling a task and being paid for it. That’s a very good thing. Work ethic is something very good to instill in our youth and letting them have that opportunity. But when minimum wage gets so high that that job isn’t worth that much to the employer, you don’t get that first job.

“Minimum wage is really your first job. Not many people stay at minimum wage. Not very long. It’s not meant to be a family wage. But it’s meant to be an entry level wage. I think it should be looked at as such.”

10/16/2008 3:09:51 PM Minimum wage  

night_tangle
Oak Harbor, WA
age: 19


wow the first post freaked me out.

the training wage seems like a good idea (now that of corse im over the age of 18) lol you kno what though, if this helps kids get jobs and keep them, more power to it.

i kno kmart istills a policy to fire ppl b4 their 90 probationary time is up. its cheaper (apparently) to train new ppl than the give pay raises to the people already working there.

10/16/2008 3:47:52 PM Minimum wage  

wish2bagain
Olympia, WA
age: 58


Quote from night_tangle:
wow the first post freaked me out.

the training wage seems like a good idea (now that of corse im over the age of 18) lol you kno what though, if this helps kids get jobs and keep them, more power to it.

i kno kmart istills a policy to fire ppl b4 their 90 probationary time is up. its cheaper (apparently) to train new ppl than the give pay raises to the people already working there.


Umm, I find that interesting that Kmart would do that. As an employer, when you fire someone, it affects your employement record with Employment Security, which in turn can affect the rate you pay as an employer. The more turnover you have the higher your rate. But hey with Kmart anything is possible, that is one store I have not set foot in since 1981.

10/16/2008 3:49:30 PM Minimum wage  

night_tangle
Oak Harbor, WA
age: 19


well idk if every kmart does it but the one in my town does.

lol and kmart is actually less kreepy and horrid than wal mart i think o.o

10/16/2008 3:50:27 PM Minimum wage  

wish2bagain
Olympia, WA
age: 58


Quote from dunitall:
What'da think should we have it lowered, Then whats next, Once you give in a inch, they'll take a mile. It'll be hard to regain that loss. I cant even imagine what people go thur working for minimum wage. How do they survive. Thats what Rossi thinks! I'm not trying to get poltical. I just dont like the ideal


This is another prime example of the bashing going on with the elections. The ad that the governor is running is only a half truth. You can make an ad say anything you want, by leaving out some key parts. Now I know Dino's side has done the very same thing, they both should be ashamed of themselves..the same as should the presidential candidates.

10/16/2008 4:29:13 PM Minimum wage  

bellinghamster
Bellingham, WA
age: 27


Wow! and I'll be lucky if I earn $3.00 an hour on my crafts if I even get into this craft fair next month. all you people with jobs have it easy. People are actually willing to pay $10 an hour for people to not really even do anything special.

10/16/2008 4:30:18 PM Minimum wage  

bellinghamster
Bellingham, WA
age: 27


then after I report my wages it would be $1.50 an hour. because social security will take half of it.

10/16/2008 4:38:37 PM Minimum wage  

wish2bagain
Olympia, WA
age: 58


Quote from bellinghamster:
Wow! and I'll be lucky if I earn $3.00 an hour on my crafts if I even get into this craft fair next month. all you people with jobs have it easy. People are actually willing to pay $10 an hour for people to not really even do anything special.


Ah, just because someone has a job, they may not have it easy. I pay my employees better than most in this business, they also have full medical and dental (paid by my company), paid vacation, paid holiday and I see them scratching to makes ends meet sometimes. Even what I pay myself, sometimes I have to be careful. So, no, just having a job does not mean easy street.

10/16/2008 4:40:00 PM Minimum wage  

night_tangle
Oak Harbor, WA
age: 19


Quote from bellinghamster:
Wow! and I'll be lucky if I earn $3.00 an hour on my crafts if I even get into this craft fair next month. all you people with jobs have it easy. People are actually willing to pay $10 an hour for people to not really even do anything special.

what do you do?

10/16/2008 5:26:09 PM Minimum wage  

andyforu
Bothell, WA
age: 46


The Gov raised the income to 42,000 a year to collect welfare. Well that puts me out of the race

10/16/2008 6:54:50 PM Minimum wage  

busybee59
Bonney Lake, WA
age: 59


That puts me out too!! I work with the goverment!( sp) and you'd be surprised how many families go for free lunches? Do they deserve it? Most of them live in really nice houses! something I can't afford!! But who am I to say? They complain about how much they pay in housing each month and they have high bills! Well, so do I!! I don't get anything for free!! I work for everything I get!! A lot of long hours that I don't get paid for! but I try to see that every kid gets a hot lunch!! even if I have to pay for it out of my own pocket!! and I do every day!! Isn't that the American way??
BB

10/16/2008 7:13:30 PM Minimum wage  

andyforu
Bothell, WA
age: 46


Quote from busybee59:
That puts me out too!! I work with the goverment!( sp) and you'd be surprised how many families go for free lunches? Do they deserve it? Most of them live in really nice houses! something I can't afford!! But who am I to say? They complain about how much they pay in housing each month and they have high bills! Well, so do I!! I don't get anything for free!! I work for everything I get!! A lot of long hours that I don't get paid for! but I try to see that every kid gets a hot lunch!! even if I have to pay for it out of my own pocket!! and I do every day!! Isn't that the American way??
BB

I wish those were free lunches. Us tax payers have to pay for those free lunches. The people that are taking advantage of the system is not only hurting us there hurting themselves for higher taxes.BB you shouldn't have to pay for those lunches they need to hold the parents accountable for there kids lunch's. I'm sure you wouldn't let your kids go hungry. I do have to say that is really nice of you doing that for the kids. BB your their

10/18/2008 8:27:21 AM Minimum wage  

craftygirl002
Tacoma, WA
age: 40


Something Mr. Rossi said really bothers me. He said, "it's not meant to be a family wage". The statement itself rings true. My guess is that when the minimum wage was first created it was intended to be an entry-level wage. I don't doubt that, as with many well-intentioned laws, the goal was to hold the entry-level wage at a high enough point to keep people from being taken advantage of. I'm sure the law was enacted to resolve issues of the time.

The step program, discussed by others in this thread, would provide some relief to employers (especially important to small businesses). It recognizes that teens don't have the financial responsibilities an adult has. Based on my limited knowledge of the program, I can see two main benefits: 1) Small businesses can utilize the program to get the help they need & the cost won't be as draining on their businesses. 2) Teens will have more opportunities available to them to gain work experience because businesses who previously couldn't afford to offer additional positions will be able to hire more people. I can also foresee 2 major pitfalls of the program: 1) Businesses will hire people and fire them when they get to whatever point in the program the employer determines is too expensive. 2) Businesses will hire the less expensive teens instead of adults. If this program is eventually enacted, I hope the abuses don't outweigh the benefits.

Mr. Rossi's statement, and his consideration of the step program, seem to lack acknowledgment of one very important fact: Minimum wage, for many people, IS a family wage. Regardless of the intent of the law, the American economy (and the economy in Washington state) has been very volatile over the last few decades. More & more people are being forced to live at, or slightly above, minimum wage. With housing and education costs continually rising, these people are finding it harder and harder to improve their situation.

Whoever our next Governor turns out to be will need to develop an overall plan to restore the economy in this state. The mimimum wage may, or may not, be a part of that plan. However, if they do address the minimum wage, I hope they do so in a manner that will do more good than harm.


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