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10/16/2008 6:46:19 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
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10/16/2008 6:49:23 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
freethinker2112
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Well if he is then he has my vote.



[Edited 10/16/2008 6:49:43 PM ]

10/16/2008 7:29:59 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

stardreamergirl
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I have heard from seceral people, that they think he is.
me? I dont know. But I do know that i wont be voting for him. something just feels wrong about him.

10/16/2008 7:31:10 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
indoubt
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Wow I feel everything right about him. I feel he really has our best interests at heart

10/16/2008 7:44:10 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
skunkbreath
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Conservative republicans have been filling that position for years now!

It's not the name, but the actions that count. And the hypocritical, perverted republicans have a history of evil!

Of course, one would have to have some knowledge of history to know that!

And i will be surprised if this red neck nation will put a black into the white house, even if it should be a slam dunk against the way over the hill geezer and his trailer trash running mate.

10/16/2008 7:49:08 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
fzappa
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This is totally offensive.(even for me..lol)..this poster child should be banned.



[Edited 10/16/2008 7:56:54 PM ]

10/16/2008 8:15:18 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
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Quote from indoubt:
Wow I feel everything right about him. I feel he really has our best interests at heart



I'm not surprised. You are anti-christ yourself, so he would appeal. The Scriptures say he will be loved by most.

10/16/2008 8:20:21 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

lovesgod57
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Is anybody getting the clues I'm sending out?

10/16/2008 8:22:11 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
Chicopee, MA
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Quote from skunkbreath:
Conservative republicans have been filling that position for years now!

It's not the name, but the actions that count. And the hypocritical, perverted republicans have a history of evil!

Of course, one would have to have some knowledge of history to know that!

And i will be surprised if this red neck nation will put a black into the white house, even if it should be a slam dunk against the way over the hill geezer and his trailer trash running mate.


You are just a small, nasty little man. You can call the woman trailer trash, but sit on a high horse because you aren't a racist. You are pathetic.

Ok, genius, give me a list of the Republican's history of evil (this ought to be good).

You mean, like ending slavery? You remember, when the south voted exclusively Democrat for decades because they supported slavery and the Republicans didn't?

10/16/2008 8:24:26 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
fzappa
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Quote from valion:
I'm not surprised. You are anti-christ yourself, so he would appeal. The Scriptures say he will be loved by most.


I can't be this "anti-christ" thing...I am balding and my 666 would show to easily.....you're spouting shit that is stoking what could be violence if Obama is elected..I am all FOR freedom of speech but you are over the line, you are one word from actually inciting the attempted assassination of this candidate. It only took one nut to kill JFK, MLK (debatable still), and I bet if you had a clear shot you'd do it...arsehole.

10/16/2008 8:29:33 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
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Quote from fzappa:
I can't be this "anti-christ" thing...I am balding and my 666 would show to easily.....you're spouting shit that is stoking what could be violence if Obama is elected..I am all FOR freedom of speech but you are over the line, you are one word from actually inciting the attempted assassination of this candidate. It only took one nut to kill JFK, MLK (debatable still), and I bet if you had a clear shot you'd do it...arsehole.


You are a freakin' nutcake. I in no way have encouraged or even intimated Obama should be harmed. Get help, you need it.

10/16/2008 8:34:26 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
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from freethinker....

"Well if he is then he has my vote."



I'm sure. Your fate is pretty much sealed anyway.

10/16/2008 8:38:34 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
fzappa
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Quote from valion:
from freethinker....

"Well if he is then he has my vote."



I'm sure. Your fate is pretty much sealed anyway.


He's being sarcastic...you're being and arsehole.

10/16/2008 8:48:45 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
raventalon
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What I'd like to see is all of you people in the same room.

Of course, you will be searched for any weapons.

10/16/2008 8:51:32 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
fzappa
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Quote from raventalon: What I'd like to see is all of you people in the same room.

Of course, you will be searched for any weapons.


I don't associate with known terrorist...

10/16/2008 9:17:35 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
stringsvrs
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[Edited 10/16/2008 9:18:23 PM ]

10/16/2008 9:27:48 PM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
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from fzappa:He's being sarcastic...you're being and arsehole.


And you're being the moron you were born as and will die as.

10/17/2008 8:16:39 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
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Quote from clarencec:
I would answer no to the original question if it deserved an answer at all, rather than a thread deletion. Is there no quality control in this place?


Obviously there is no quality control. You are here.

Wake up! This is a RELIGIOUS forum. The largest religion in the world has a book that states an anti-christ will come. It is therefore completely in keeping with the nature of this forum to question if any individual might be the fulfillment of that prophesy.

Are you shocked, horrified, offended? Well this place is haunted with atheists that some might find offensive, but in the name of free expression, they are tolerated.

10/17/2008 8:25:56 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
pretty_moon
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There not only is no quality control...there is NO control.

Who is there to control the uncontrollable but..dare I mention God.....but He lets us to our own mucked up devices.

PEACE as always


pretty moon

10/17/2008 8:42:52 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
scorpiomoon
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I think AntiChrist is a term of endearment used by Christians, considering I have heard them slap that label on just about everyone, including other Christians. According to the bible, anyone who isn't Christian is antichrist, so there isn't just one but rather millions out there. So much for the dragon, superstition and the 666.

Quote from Obama: "I'm on my own faith journey and I'm searching," he says. "I leave open the possibility that I'm entirely wrong."

I guess another one bites the dust!!!

10/17/2008 9:01:10 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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Quote from stardreamergirl:
I have heard from seceral people, that they think he is.
me? I dont know. But I do know that i wont be voting for him. something just feels wrong about him.


Might it be, that he is Black? because, it seems to me, that the Constitutional LAW professor, is exactly what this country needs, someone armed with the original document of the founding fathers, and the brains, and character to put us back into the graces of Our constitution,

let me guess, I will bet you voted for Bush? one of those Libertarians, that wants deregulation are you? well those people have nearly destroyed what every military family has suffered for since the inception of this country, and the fact that people would consider more of the same is nauseating.

please, stay home on voting day, you are a liability to our nation. if you are even considering the moron that wants to Increase the tax relief for the corporations that NO LONGER employ americans, and yet think it will trickle down.

guss what, their ignorant tax breaks are trickling down to the poor people in INDIA now, and the republicans and the ignorant LIbertarians arent smart enough to figure out they are hemmoraghing OUR money into foreign banks.

continue destroying the nation as you will, BUT remember it was you REPUBLICANS that converted America to socialism, and notice they didn't bother to give US healthcare even though we pay through the nose for it,

they have successfully embraced socialism when it serves THEM, but have half of the morons in this country afraid of being like ENgland and CANada.

real bright.

10/17/2008 9:04:27 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

skypoet
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Someone likes throwing stones... be careful they don't ricochet. There are more anti-christs in the churches these days, but I'm not naming names... and that's the BIG difference.

10/17/2008 9:07:39 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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Quote from scorpiomoon:
I think AntiChrist is a term of endearment used by Christians, considering I have heard them slap that label on just about everyone, including other Christians. According to the bible, anyone who isn't Christian is antichrist, so there isn't just one but rather millions out there. So much for the dragon, superstition and the 666.

Quote from Obama: "I'm on my own faith journey and I'm searching," he says. "I leave open the possibility that I'm entirely wrong."

I guess another one bites the dust!!!


The funny thing is, IF all of these people, werent serving the wrong master ( MONEY) read the red part of your bible people

they would NOT be so damned upset about the collapse of the economic system in America, and they wouldn't FEAR the anti christ.

If you read what Jesus sdaid was going to happen, it is that the greed MOngers system will collapse, and GODS will will be done on earth.

the republicans and the Liberarians, which no longer truly represent either group as they were intended, are scared, because their sinful way of living, is dying before their eyes, I would suggest they read the gospels. but the funny thing is, they read the Bible assuming that they are not in a sinful state of mind, and they are, so they are scared.

Jesus and Micah both said, He came here with a double edged sword to destroy those that are NOT worthy of Jesus. and the way you are NOT worthy of Jesus, is when they worship Money, and greed, and they seek pleasure over spirit. he also said it is what comes OUT of your mouth that makes you sinful because it comes from your heart.

AND he spoke directly about the elections.

McCain supporters are deluded. as much as I used to respect the man, I pity him now because he sold his soul tot he republican party, and offered it up for Rove and Cheney to use and abuse as they see fit.

disgusting

10/17/2008 9:11:29 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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Quote from valion:
Obviously there is no quality control. You are here.

Wake up! This is a RELIGIOUS forum. The largest religion in the world has a book that states an anti-christ will come. It is therefore completely in keeping with the nature of this forum to question if any individual might be the fulfillment of that prophesy.

Are you shocked, horrified, offended? Well this place is haunted with atheists that some might find offensive, but in the name of free expression, they are tolerated.


UMMMM< are you catholic?

because you should study the bible itself before you contribute any single book to GOD.

Revelations isn't from GOD, it is from an exile from Rome Named JOHN, and it is written specifically for those people that were living under NEROs oppressive rule,

IT is over.

try reading one of the TRUE gospels, either Matthew or Mark, skip John, and Luke is written by a pharisee. so, revelations is over, Nero is dead. the 7 headed beast was ROME and it was slain a very long time ago.

the king james version of the Bible isn't even as old as America. know thyself.

10/17/2008 9:13:25 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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Quote from skypoet:
Someone likes throwing stones... be careful they don't ricochet. There are more anti-christs in the churches these days, but I'm not naming names... and that's the BIG difference.


who might you be accusing of throwing stones BRIT?

I despise political correctness in politics, it is NO place for pleasantries.

and thank GOD the founding fathers agreed with me.

10/17/2008 9:15:26 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
faithhealer
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Damn Valion....you just destroyed my misguided belief that people from the northeast were open-minded and well-balanced.

Did you just move there from Alabama?

10/17/2008 9:16:14 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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Quote from clarencec:
I would answer no to the original question if it deserved an answer at all, rather than a thread deletion. Is there no quality control in this place?

Edit: My answer of "No" is in no way intended to support the notion of a modern day Antichrist having any real world credence or meaning outside the superstitious delusions of a certain intellectually challenged sector of the faith community..


I lived in Yorkshire too.Evesham

and since this is a religious Forum, and our elections are less than 3 weeks away, and we get a completely NEW government after this vote. everything is relative.

according to JESUS, it is very relevant, unfortunately, most people that cvlaim CHRIST, have NO idea what he is actually saying. because they are serving the wrong master.

they worship cash rather than GODs will.

and you know it is easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven????

10/17/2008 9:19:22 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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Quote from valion:
Obviously there is no quality control. You are here.

Wake up! This is a RELIGIOUS forum. The largest religion in the world has a book that states an anti-christ will come. It is therefore completely in keeping with the nature of this forum to question if any individual might be the fulfillment of that prophesy.

Are you shocked, horrified, offended? Well this place is haunted with atheists that some might find offensive, but in the name of free expression, they are tolerated.


I love this holier than though piety.

who do you think you are??

you think this is a Christian forum don't you??

guess what. atheism is a religion too,

and if you want to know the truth, it is the rest of us, that toletrates you christians.

you are the ones that continuously assert yourself as some sort of position of power, power you do not have.

the proof is in your statement that Others are tolerated.

grow up for gods sake. this is exactly whay Christianity is dying out and fast. good riddance, jesus cwertainly would NOT be a Christian.

10/17/2008 9:26:41 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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Quote from valion:
You are just a small, nasty little man. You can call the woman trailer trash, but sit on a high horse because you aren't a racist. You are pathetic.

Ok, genius, give me a list of the Republican's history of evil (this ought to be good).

You mean, like ending slavery? You remember, when the south voted exclusively Democrat for decades because they supported slavery and the Republicans didn't?


wow, OK genius, lewts start with suspendiong habias cortpus, and MOve on to mureder, stealing, and torture.

of course that is JUST int his administration, wou7ld you like for me to go back to Bush one, or Reagaqn, because they both imported Crack Cocaine,

started wars for profit to fluff their own bank accounts ( Iran contra and Panama, and lets NOT forget the sandanistas)

you clearly have a deluded view of history.

or maybe we should list the curreent administration declaring themselves a monarchy by refusing to testify under subpoena. eliminating the checks and balances and the constitution itself???

you are deluded, go back to school and take a government class before you vote.

let me guess, you voted for Bush right??

try going to henry Waxmans website, he is on the oversight committee and provides you with REAL testimony, of those people that didn't refuse to testify as Law requires.

or How about condi and Bush and Rumsfeld, and Cheneys psychotic evil ass, endorsing and signiong directives ordering and approving heartily Torture, then Lying to the Country about that to kewep their asses out of prison.

or how about them politicizing the justice department so they can prosecute democrats and protect legally republicans gfrom prosecution according to THEIR will
if Clinton had done that he would be in prison now.

I can't wait until cheney is behind bars.

10/17/2008 9:33:20 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
Chicopee, MA
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Quote from curiousone2:
wow, OK genius, lewts start with suspendiong habias cortpus, and MOve on to mureder, stealing, and torture.

of course that is JUST int his administration, wou7ld you like for me to go back to Bush one, or Reagaqn, because they both imported Crack Cocaine,

started wars for profit to fluff their own bank accounts ( Iran contra and Panama, and lets NOT forget the sandanistas)

you clearly have a deluded view of history.

or maybe we should list the curreent administration declaring themselves a monarchy by refusing to testify under subpoena. eliminating the checks and balances and the constitution itself???

you are deluded, go back to school and take a government class before you vote.

let me guess, you voted for Bush right??

try going to henry Waxmans website, he is on the oversight committee and provides you with REAL testimony, of those people that didn't refuse to testify as Law requires.

or How about condi and Bush and Rumsfeld, and Cheneys psychotic evil ass, endorsing and signiong directives ordering and approving heartily Torture, then Lying to the Country about that to kewep their asses out of prison.

or how about them politicizing the justice department so they can prosecute democrats and protect legally republicans gfrom prosecution according to THEIR will
if Clinton had done that he would be in prison now.

I can't wait until cheney is behind bars.



Alrighty then...... seems they must allow PC access in the nut house every Friday. Enjoy your computer time.

10/17/2008 9:35:40 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
mtn_man_vail
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Quote from curiousone2:
I love this holier than though piety.

who do you think you are??

you think this is a Christian forum don't you??

guess what. atheism is a religion too,

and if you want to know the truth, it is the rest of us, that toletrates you christians.

you are the ones that continuously assert yourself as some sort of position of power, power you do not have.

the proof is in your statement that Others are tolerated.

grow up for gods sake. this is exactly whay Christianity is dying out and fast. good riddance, jesus cwertainly would NOT be a Christian.


"jesus cwertainly would NOT be a Christian"........do you even know what that statement says about your analogy knowledge?

Just so you know... it takes more restraint than you'll ever know for christians to tolerate others on this site.

10/17/2008 9:38:10 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

skypoet
Lincolnshire
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A reminder for all christians: "Who among you shall cast the first stone?"

The fact that I'm a "Brit" is irrelevant to my post, I don't care for "political correctness" either and I don't need to name names. However I will say that I am not the author of this thread. It's simply saying "if the shoe fits, wear it."



[Edited 10/17/2008 9:39:31 AM ]

10/17/2008 9:46:40 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
Chicopee, MA
63, joined Aug. 2008


Quote from curiousone2:
I love this holier than though piety.

who do you think you are??

you think this is a Christian forum don't you??

guess what. atheism is a religion too,

and if you want to know the truth, it is the rest of us, that toletrates you christians.

you are the ones that continuously assert yourself as some sort of position of power, power you do not have.

the proof is in your statement that Others are tolerated.

grow up for gods sake. this is exactly whay Christianity is dying out and fast. good riddance, jesus cwertainly would NOT be a Christian.


Who do you think you are?

You better pow wow with your atheist buddies on this, because they insist atheism is not a religion.

I'm not holier than thou, I'm just not completely FOS like you.

No, it's a RELIGIOUS forum. There are a number of religions other than Christianity. Duh.

You godless ones tolerate us by coming to a RELIGIOUS forum? I guess in your alternate reality world that makes sense.

No, silly, Christianity is dying out fast because the Bible says it will. It says those of us who believe will be persecuted. YOU make the Bible true, LOL.

Right, like you would have the first flippin' clue what Jesus would be, hilarious.

10/17/2008 9:57:28 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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valion

thats right, an opposing point you run and hide, typical. hope you take that attitude Nov 4th and don't vote, save our nation please, stay at home.

ahhh typical republican, a disagreeing point MUST be crazy right??

excpet that YOUR team destroyed our country genius.

have you looked at the stock market or the unemployment stats lately???
have you checked out the numbers of people that are Homless, with you wonderful leaders???

yeah probably not because people that are republican delude themselves as LONG as it serves them to do so.

which is exactly why they will be stripped of everything they hold dear. you can't serve 2 masters.

you should read what Jesus said would happen when the sons of adam finally reject the ways of the greedy.

not scary at all, unless you are one of the greedy?

10/17/2008 10:04:31 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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I KNOW myself,

I am NOT an atheist

YOU are completely full of yourself.

you actually think that ONLY christianity is a religion???

you are NOT a christian, you are stupid.

you clearly need to go back to school and improve your reading comprehension.

jesus did NOT say Christianity would fall away because Christians would be persecuted.
a pharisee said that,. leave it to a pharisee Loving christian, to NOT know the difference

who wrote revelations genius??? NOT jesus.

jesus was a JEW. you THINK you know, and even worse, you think you are so damned smart that you think you Know what I think and believe. there are 7 woes due to you,

YOU are a pharisee. jesus said beware of the pharisees, and people like you worship one. in the form of Christianity.

you don't even know the history of the very Institution you are entrusting your soul to, because it makes you feel safe and warm and fuzzy to live in ignorance.

carry on.

matters not to me or anyone else, what the state of your soul, or any other is.





[Edited 10/17/2008 10:05:05 AM ]

10/17/2008 10:17:25 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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from mtn_man_vailjesus cwertainly would NOT be a Christian"........do you even know what that statement says about your analogy knowledge?

Just so you know... it takes more restraint than you'll ever know for christians to tolerate others on this site


Just so YOU know, Christians are eqwually annoying to the rest of the world, and while the christians have dopne a piss poor job of being tolerant, the rest of the worls HAs been forced to tolerate the christians.

read some history for gods sake. the crusades ring a bell?? how about the popes assertion that ther holocause was a cleansing??

Christians tend to be ego centric, self absorberd people that usually cannot ( out of fear of course) even fathom that anyone else MIght be right because they have been fed spoonfulls of fear since birth usually.

Trust me you don't love jesus anymore than I do, I just don't worship the church therefore I reject the name Christian, because the CHURCH distorted Jesus message of do unto others, for their own personal gain, Hell read the bible he tells you this is true.

jesus, was jew, Jesus would never have embraced a religion, that kills, and mames, and especially NOT the catholic church, that is founded By a pharisee that was OPUT hunting christians, when he got the idea to use and abuse them for his own personal gain, and then set out to kill any other beliefs that disagreed with them

I am certainly not surprised that you supposed Christians, embrace this behavior.

there were 12 disciples all of which gave testimony about Jesus LIFE.

Paul the christian killing pharisee, decided that Jesus DEATH rather than his testimony was what was important, and he formed a council and heresey Laws to kill anyone that disagreed with him.

try reading the gnostic texts and some of the gospels that ARE NOT matthew and Mark.

Luke and JOHN were NOT written by people that Knew jesus or ever heard him speak, or ever laid eyes on him. JUST like PAUL.

continue worshipping the catholic church, I believe Jesus was speaking to Thomas when he said that the church would serve up heaping amounts of damnation to the people by having them worship a dead man.

if you think that the King JKames version of the bible is the end all be all, you don't know squat. and probably don't even know who King james was.

if you did, you would be a bit more skeptical since he combined the church of englands beliefs with the catholic church beliefs to save his own Head.

10/17/2008 10:20:54 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
mtn_man_vail
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valion i agree with you, there are a lot of athiests that think it is not a religion.
Even humanists are practicing their own religion!
They want to put religion and christianity in a box together so they can feel better about not blieving they particapate in a religion...

Delusional, which is what we get called from them.

10/17/2008 10:21:01 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
Chicopee, MA
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Quote from curiousone2:
I KNOW myself,

I am NOT an atheist

YOU are completely full of yourself.

you actually think that ONLY christianity is a religion???

you are NOT a christian, you are stupid.

you clearly need to go back to school and improve your reading comprehension.

jesus did NOT say Christianity would fall away because Christians would be persecuted.
a pharisee said that,. leave it to a pharisee Loving christian, to NOT know the difference

who wrote revelations genius??? NOT jesus.

jesus was a JEW. you THINK you know, and even worse, you think you are so damned smart that you think you Know what I think and believe. there are 7 woes due to you,

YOU are a pharisee. jesus said beware of the pharisees, and people like you worship one. in the form of Christianity.

you don't even know the history of the very Institution you are entrusting your soul to, because it makes you feel safe and warm and fuzzy to live in ignorance.

carry on.

matters not to me or anyone else, what the state of your soul, or any other is.




Note to self: (Don't bother with this nutcake anymore.)

10/17/2008 10:24:02 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
lust4love
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,709)
Atco, NJ
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Yes, he is the anti christ And he is taking all you white racist to the lake of fire to fry for eternity.Amen

10/17/2008 10:25:38 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
indoubt
Over 2,000 Posts (2,595)
Beaumont, CA
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Lust

10/17/2008 10:28:16 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
Chicopee, MA
63, joined Aug. 2008


Quote from mtn_man_vail:
valion i agree with you, there are a lot of athiests that think it is not a religion.
Even humanists are practicing their own religion!
They want to put religion and christianity in a box together so they can feel better about not blieving they particapate in a religion...

Delusional, which is what we get called from them.



It's all good brother mtn man. The persecution will only get worse. In their hate for God and His people, they are almost foaming at the mouth as it is, . Hold on to your hat, it's going to get real ugly. Take comfort in the knowledge of whose side we are on. In the end we will be rewarded for every blow we suffer on God's behalf.

10/17/2008 10:32:48 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
faithhealer
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"It's all good brother mtn man. The persecution will only get worse. In their hate for God and His people, they are almost foaming at the mouth as it is, . Hold on to your hat, it's going to get real ugly. Take comfort in the knowledge of whose side we are on. In the end we will be rewarded for every blow we suffer on God's behalf."

You guys are funnier than SNL!

10/17/2008 10:34:27 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
fzappa
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Quote from indoubt:
Lust


Hi indoubt!...what's the "lust" for today madam?

This guy give christians a bad name...he's the "abomination"

Atheism & Religion:

"Many Christians seem to believe that atheism is a religion, but no one with a fair understanding of both concepts would make such a mistake. Because it’s such a common claim, though, it’s worth demonstrating the depth and breadth of the errors being made. Presented here are the characteristics which best define religions, distinguishing them from other types of belief systems, and how atheism utterly fails to even remotely match any of them."

http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutatheism/p/AtheismReligion.htm

10/17/2008 10:34:51 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
indoubt
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You will also suffer gods blow if you do not follow your religion as you are supposed to. I hope you live by every single law of his to the T. Otherwise don't down us that don't believe. Its all or nothing dude.

And FZappa im laughing at lusts comment



[Edited 10/17/2008 10:35:34 AM ]

10/17/2008 10:38:05 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
indoubt
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I seriously can't believe religious wars. What makes one persons religion right and the others wrong? And why does so much death and destruction come about from this silly argument. WAR WAR WAR. I mean if there is a god (which there isnt) then wouldn't he love you and accept you no matter how you are or what religion you believe in? Just curious.

10/17/2008 10:38:06 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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wow, you all have btroken the mold havent you,

basically is what you are saying, is that

you all agree, that NOT believing as you do, is NOT a religious stance at all, because it isn't yours.

and valion the genius, just dismisses me as crazy since I disagree with his rediculous hyposritcal views, right???

If you are sane, I embrace insanity.

you are the most closed minded calloused hearted hypocrites I have ever had the displeasure to encounter, your ego centric ideas are rediculous,

and I am not upset at all,

or persecuting anyone, all of the thingas I have stated are verifiable Historical facts.

go look them up.

of course you might find out that Paul the christian killer founded your religion be careful you might have to do as jesus suggested and consider what you are told carefully so as NOT to be fooled, so it is probably best you all just crawl back into your ignorant little holes, where you can accumulate riches of the world in peace.



10/17/2008 10:39:23 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
Chicopee, MA
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Quote from indoubt:
You will also suffer gods blow if you do not follow your religion as you are supposed to. I hope you live by every single law of his to the T. Otherwise don't down us that don't believe. Its all or nothing dude.

And FZappa im laughing at lusts comment



All men are sinners. But sin can be forgiven through the sacrifice of Christ.

That would require one's believing in Christ to apply. So, you're pretty much screwed on that count.

10/17/2008 10:41:28 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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I seriously can't believe religious wars. What makes one persons religion right and the others wrong? And why does so much death and destruction come about from this silly argument. WAR WAR WAR. I mean if there is a god (which there isnt) then wouldn't he love you and accept you no matter how you are or what religion you believe in? Just curious.

YES exactly, whatever created us, is GOD, even if it is JUST a proccess, it is a proccess that governs OUR reality, what is real and true and what is NOT.

Therefore any religious belief that is based on FEAR is bullhsit and made up BY humans, and is therefore NOT of GOD.

you can't deny GOD because we are here, you can only be in disagreement about HOW we got here, and IF whatever brought us here, is Intelligent or not.

Thats the real arguyment, no matter what the " christians " that worship PAul want you to believe.

10/17/2008 10:41:42 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
Chicopee, MA
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Quote from indoubt:
I seriously can't believe religious wars. What makes one persons religion right and the others wrong? And why does so much death and destruction come about from this silly argument. WAR WAR WAR. I mean if there is a god (which there isnt) then wouldn't he love you and accept you no matter how you are or what religion you believe in? Just curious.



Name me a "religious war". There were none.

10/17/2008 10:43:45 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
Chicopee, MA
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from curiousone2 "I embrace insanity."


That's obvious.

10/17/2008 10:44:42 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
indoubt
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So valion, you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you say im sowwy please forgive me. Either do your religion to the T or I seriously dont want to hear how holier than thou you are. K Believe it all the way and live by it word for word.

10/17/2008 10:44:58 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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All men are sinners. But sin can be forgiven through the sacrifice of Christ.

That would require one's believing in Christ to apply. So, you're pretty much screwed on that count.


This statemtn is sinful genius,

YOU are NOT god, YOU do NOT have the right to daqmn her, or SET the bar for salvation.

it is self righteousness, and therefore a sin BY your OWN religious standards,

when you add to the mix the fact that you are Both ridiculing this person and taking some sort of perverse pleasure in thinking you are morally superior, IT grows exponentially,

when you add again, jesus Law that fulfills both the lws and the prophetsm, DO unto others as you would have them do unto YOU.

you fall short of the glory yet again, don't you???

you missed the mark of what is right? oops.

don't worry all of your friends will be thwere with you, wherever you go.

10/17/2008 10:47:11 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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from curiousone2 "I embrace insanity."


That's obvious.



and you got your degree where??????

and your credentials are What????

because I assure you, I have been tested, and I am definitely NOT insane, just really pissed off by hypocrites, and religious zealots.

I take jesus sort of seriously, and I have studied religion both in my life, and at school. what sort of credentials do you have exactly?

10/17/2008 10:48:57 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
skunkbreath
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"""-give me a list of the Republican's history of evil- """

You and your perverted republican conservatives are "given over" to evil that you would not recognize evil if it were logically laid before you where even a moderate christo-retard could understand it!..I am not here to educate the most perverted of minds, but to express as i choose.

Conservatism has infected both parties (all parties)...It is when that element gains uncontrolled power and economic/social circumstances allows their evil to be expressed that the true nature of conservatism is expressed!(Spanish Inquisition, KKK,etc..)..The republicans have not always been so contaminated by christian thugs, and the party needs a moral leadership that is not so perverted!..As for history, remember one word, Nixon!...

Your lack of morality and twisted rationalizing would allow you to support a Hitler or Stalin if they declared themselves "Republican" and christian! And i will accept the labels of "pathetic", and "small", if they disassociate me from you and your perverted ilk!

A redneck mentality, with some power and money, (even with lipstick, is still a redneck mentality!!..My reference to "trailer trash" was toward the most ignorant, superstitious, redneck, conservative republicans who have far too much influence in the direction of this country at this time.They can be seen as the American Taliban! And their Mullah Mohammed Omar is gwb at the moment!(talk about small and pathetic, gwb, the dregs of american presidents!

10/17/2008 10:50:00 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

drpepperz
Lafayette, LA
37, joined Feb. 2008


Quote from curiousone2:


Therefore any religious belief that is based on FEAR is bullhsit and made up BY humans, and is therefore NOT of GOD.


God was invented by humans which makes him bullshit as well.

9/ll was waged by terrorists who fought in the name of Allah
Technically, the Israeli/Palestinian wars are religious
The conflicts in Ireland are/were at least somewhat religious
The Crusades in the middle ages
The Spainish conquest of the Americas was also partially a religious war.

10/17/2008 10:54:04 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
Chicopee, MA
63, joined Aug. 2008


from curiousone2: "This statemtn is sinful genius,

YOU are NOT god, YOU do NOT have the right to daqmn her, or SET the bar for salvation.

it is self righteousness, and therefore a sin BY your OWN religious standards,"


I don't dislike stupid people. I generally like them if they are good. But I cannot endure the stupid telling how it should be.

I have not sinned in this case. I have merely stated the obvious. One cannot be saved through the sacrifice of Christ if they don't believe in Christ.

I do not damn her. If it were up to me I would have her saved. I think she has a good heart, but just looks to the world for solutions when there are none there. Only God has the solutions.

10/17/2008 11:00:53 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

valion
Chicopee, MA
63, joined Aug. 2008


Quote from drpepperz:

"9/ll was waged by terrorists who fought in the name of Allah
Technically, the Israeli/Palestinian wars are religious
The conflicts in Ireland are/were at least somewhat religious
The Crusades in the middle ages
The Spainish conquest of the Americas was also partially a religious war."



9/11 was not a war.

The Israeli/Palestinian wars are based in ethnicity and the desire for land.

Ireland has been about ethnicity and power/land, not religion.

The Crusades were masked in a religious facade, but were also about territory and money.

The Spanish conquest was all about gold and land.

10/17/2008 11:06:57 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
indoubt
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Beaumont, CA
40, joined Aug. 2008


Quote from valion:
from curiousone2: "This statemtn is sinful genius,

YOU are NOT god, YOU do NOT have the right to daqmn her, or SET the bar for salvation.

it is self righteousness, and therefore a sin BY your OWN religious standards,"


I don't dislike stupid people. I generally like them if they are good. But I cannot endure the stupid telling how it should be.

I have not sinned in this case. I have merely stated the obvious. One cannot be saved through the sacrifice of Christ if they don't believe in Christ.

I do not damn her. If it were up to me I would have her saved. I think she has a good heart, but just looks to the world for solutions when there are none there. Only God has the solutions.



So funny you call me stupid, yet you believe in something that is not real and sometimes live your life by it. I assume when it is convenient for you. I am not stupid. I have realized the impossibility of it. Noone has yet to convince me. I have made my arguement very clear long ago.

10/17/2008 11:07:38 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  

curiousone2
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Springfield, IL
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well thanks for clarifying that you are worshipper of the pharisee Paul,

good christian, you have behaved exactly as the pharisee wanted you to.

there is another way, that One could be redeemed through Christ,

but it actually takes actively participating in tyhe actions you make, and putting opther people, and more importantly GODS will before your own.

asee paul wasn't as smart as he thought he was.

good recruiter, but evil is eventually exposed,

If as you claim, Jesus was sent her as a sacrificial lamb to die for OUR sins, then why, didn't HE know it? and WHY didn't his disciples know it?

and don't say they did, they didn't.

jesus himself prayed that his Life might be spared in the garden of gethsemane before he was arrested,

and these people that he hand picked to give testimony about His mission, fell asleep 3 times, and didn't pray, even when Jesus asked them too. 3 times, so you want me to believe that the disciples KNEW that Jesus was sent BY god to be tortured ( which in itself makes absolutely NO sense whatesoever, but conveniently absolves the christians of any sins they might personnally commit, leaving them open to sin all they want)

so they KNEW jesus was about to save their sould, and they fell asleep rathe r than doing what he asks???

and jesus himself asked that the cup might be taken from him, so HE didn't know he HAD to die.

and He was pissed when he caugfht the disciples NOT praying, so he obviously thought their prayers would help.

what would tghe sacrificial lamb of god dying for all of our sins need their prayers for????

not to mention the fact, that any prayers were clealry that his message would be received and fall on ready ears, that would embrace his message of good behavior, and Gods will.

he prayed that GODS will be done on earth, as it is in heaven, and he also said, the pjarisees wouldn't enter heaven they refused, and, he also said Heaven is at hand.

he also heaven is the throne of God, the throne is a position of authority.

the implication is that, it is in doing GODS will here on earth, that Heaven will be experienced BY us, he also said, GHOD is the god os the living, the dead have NO need of GOD.

your religious belief that jesus died so you are safe, just doesn't measure up, when you add to the mix, that Jesus prayed it wouldn't happen, and the fact that your faith was devised by a christian killing pharisee, it loses all credibility.

but you carry on, jesus said you would

10/17/2008 11:11:17 AM Is Obamanation the anti-christ?  
mtn_man_vail
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Eagle, CO
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Quote from indoubt:
So valion, you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you say im sowwy please forgive me. Either do your religion to the T or I seriously dont want to hear how holier than thou you are. K Believe it all the way and live by it word for word.


No.. you forget to include the most important piece of the puzzle.

We will still have to answer to God, but we have eternal forgiveness because we have chosen to give our lives to Him and jesus, who will stand up for us on judgement day.
That is where you and i differ, you will not be defended by jesus to god and God
will cast you away.
And yes it's only a belief, but it is ours, and that, you can't do a damn thing about except stand by and watch.... or , on this site condemn.