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8/6/2010 11:09:26 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
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8/6/2010 4:51:31 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

4evr6y
Over 2,000 Posts (2,346)
Morgan, VT
age: 68


I listened to the videos..and years ago would have been in agreement with them...
but ,how does the song go..."i'm so much older now"

True religion is an insight into reality, the faith-child of the moral consciousness, and not a mere intellectual assent to any body of dogmatic doctrines.
True religion consists in the experience that "the Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are the children of God."
Religion consists not in theologic propositions but in spiritual insight and the sublimity of the soul's trust.
FER

8/6/2010 5:37:34 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Ah but i was so much older then ~ i am younger than that now...
i am not here for debate or to listen to any criticism ...

please be courteous enough to honor Christ's teachings
open your heart & mind & spirit to receive His Love
if you choose to say something positive on a post here
that would be great , otherwise please keep on going !!!




"Gotta Serve Somebody"


by Mr. Bob Dylan


You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

Might be a rock'n' roll adict prancing on the stage
Might have money and drugs at your commands, women in a cage
You may be a business man or some high degree thief
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a state trooper, you might be an young turk
You may be the head of some big TV network
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame
You may be living in another country under another name.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a construction worker working on a home
You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome
You might own guns and you might even own tanks
You might be somebody's landlord you might even own banks.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride
You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side
You may be working in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair
You may be somebody's mistress, may be somebody's heir.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may call me Terry, you may call me Jimmy
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray
You may call me anything but no matter what you say.

You're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.



by Van Morrison

The sun was setting over Avalon
The last time we stood in the west
Suffering long time angels enraptured by Blake
Burn out the dross innocence captured again
Standing on the beach at sunset all the boats
All the boats keep moving slow
In the glory of the flashing light in the evenings glow

When will I ever learn to live in God?
When will I ever learn?
He gives me everything I need and more
When will I ever learn?

You brought it to my attention everything that was made in God
Down through centuries of great writings and paintings
Everything lives in God
Seen through architecture of great cathedrals
Down through the history of time
Is and was in the beginning and evermore shall be

When will I ever learn to live in God?
When will I ever learn?
He gives me everything I need and more
When will I ever learn?

Whatever it takes to fulfill his mission
That is the way we must go
But you've got to do it your own way
Tear down the old, bring up the new

And up on the hillside its quiet
Where the shepherd is tending his sheep
And over the mountains and the valleys
The countryside is so green
Standing on the highest hill with a sense of wonder
You can see everything is made in God
Head back down the roadside and give thanks for it all

When will I ever learn to live in God?
When will I ever learn?
He gives me everything I need and more
When will I ever learn













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8/6/2010 7:26:57 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57








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8/8/2010 6:17:43 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

nonstandard
York, PA
age: 48


My soul will feed the earth , same as all the plants and animals that inhabit it with me . I am not so much better than them . The earth gave me life and it is an honor to give it back . If I could save my soul , I would happily give it back to the life that has given me so much joy and pleasure .
Christians have no faith . They are greedy hoarders that spit on the gift of life .

8/11/2010 2:09:22 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  
lady__darkness
Springfield, MO
age: 23


You no there is a christain forum right? do u even relise how insulting it is for u 2 come in here and demand we love christ? people do have their own minds and their own beliefs. Some were raised that way, some came to research and belief that way. but that doesnt make them any better or worse than u. poeple come into this forum to get away from that sort of thing, so we can speak freely and not have some others opinion cramed down our throat. i no i am a good person, just because i do not practice christainaniy does not make me less of a good person

8/11/2010 3:30:27 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


it is really funny and sad at the same time

with some of the comments & false accusations that have been made here ...

people get blocked when they come in with rudeness ~ arrogant ego and lies

don't try and accuse me of trying to cram something down anyone's throat...




no one is tieing you up or handcuffing you

no one is forcing you to stop by & read my threads...

and no one Good is forcing you to do anything

but satan keeps warring for your souls & makes puppets of those who serve him

and if you want to blame anyone for misleading you & leading you to destruction


blame Satan & blame yourselves for not listening & not obeying

and for rebelling against the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ




so if you want to accuse me of something

accuse me of something i am really doing



For I am pointing out the way to the Light of God

and then you will be correct in your observation !!!

and many will thank me

and others will wish they had listened and obeyed






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8/11/2010 3:36:23 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57









[Edited 8/11/2010 3:42:03 PM ]

8/11/2010 4:01:37 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

wolfyhp
Over 2,000 Posts (2,491)
Atascadero, CA
age: 37


Look, this is an other religions group. Christians have been told specifically not to come in here and proselytize. You have a group for discussing Christian matters. This doesn't just come from us, this comes from Dustin, the site owner. As a group, we have decided not to bother saying anything wrong to Christians who come in with respect, not to spam us with dozens of videos which aren't going to change our views or to tell us that we're all going to hell for not believing in your version of Yeshua/Jesus. I have reported this thread as inappropriate for this forum.

Go to people who want to hear your message and who are ready to hear it. Waste not your efforts on those who do not want to hear it, for they will not hear it. You do a disservice to those who would want to hear your message by spending your time with those who do not.


If you would like to discuss religion with non-Christians, your best bet is to go to the Religion forum under the "forums" section of this site. I'll even give you a link to a topic within the forum, since it's a hidden one. Add it to your favorites so you can find it again.

https://DateHookup.dating/Thread-487802.htm

There, it's a thread about if atheists have a purpose in life. There's tons of threads there you'd enjoy and people who might actually want to hear what you have to say.



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8/11/2010 4:24:59 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57







8/11/2010 4:27:20 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57







8/12/2010 4:29:13 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

4evr6y
Over 2,000 Posts (2,346)
Morgan, VT
age: 68




8/14/2010 9:33:58 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from 4evr6y:



wow...that is such a trip that you would post this video ...


oh do i have an incredible out of this world story about the book Urantia







8/14/2010 12:59:39 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57



http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/pro005.htm
King James Version: Proverbs Chapter 5
1 My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding
2 That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge
3 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb
and her mouth is smoother than oil:
4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword
5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell
6 Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life
her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them
7 Hear me now therefore, O ye children
and depart not from the words of my mouth
8 Remove thy way far from her
and come not nigh the door of her house
9 Lest thou give thine honour unto others,
& thy years unto the cruel
10 Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth
and thy labours be in the house of a stranger
11 & thou mourn at the last
when thy flesh and thy body are consumed
12 & say, How have I hated instruction
& my heart despised reproof
13 & have not obeyed the voice of my teachers
nor inclined mine ear to them that instructed me!
14 I was almost in all evil in the midst of the congregation & assembly
15 Drink waters out of thine own cistern
& running waters out of thine own well
16 Let thy fountains be dispersed abroad
& rivers of waters in the streets
17 Let them be only thine own & not strangers' with thee
18 Let thy fountain be blessed:
and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.
19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe;
let her breasts satisfy thee at all times;
& be thou ravished always with her love

20 And why wilt thou, my son,
be ravished with a strange woman,
& embrace the bosom of a stranger?
21 For the ways of man are before the eyes of the LORD,
& he pondereth all his goings.
22 His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself
& he shall be holden with the cords of his sins
23 He shall die without instruction
& in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray




Proverbs chapter 31 King James Version
1 The words of king Lemuel, the prophecy that his mother taught him.
2 What, my son? and what, the son of my womb? and what, the son of my vows?
3 Give not thy strength unto women, nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.
4 It is not for kings O Lemuel it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink
5 Lest they drink & forget the law & pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted
6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish
& wine unto those that be of heavy hearts
7 Let him drink & forget his poverty & remember his misery no more.
8 Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction
9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.
10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
15 She riseth also while it is yet night,
& giveth meat to her household & a portion to her maidens.
16 She considereth a field & buyeth it:
with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
17 She girdeth her loins with strength & strengtheneth her arms.
18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
19 She layeth her hands to the spindle & her hands hold the distaff.
20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor;
yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household:
for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry ~ her clothing is silk and purple
23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land
24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it & delivereth girdles unto the merchant
25 Strength & honour are her clothing & she shall rejoice in time to come
26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom & in her tongue is the law of kindness
27 She looketh well to the ways of her household & eateth not the bread of idleness
28 Her children arise up & call her blessed; her husband also & he praiseth her
29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all
30 Favour is deceitful & beauty is vain
but a woman that feareth the LORD she shall be praised.
31 Give her of the fruit of her hands
& let her own works praise her in the gates"









Justice among the nations of mankind, and the uplifting of humanity,
can be brought about only by those strong and daring men
who with wisdom love peace, but who love righteousness more than peace.

~ Theodore Roosevelt (1858–1919)





Dare Greatly
It is not the critic who counts;
nor the man who points out how the strong man stumbled,
or where the doer of deeds could have done better.

The credit
belongs to the man
who is actually in the arena;
whose face is marred
by dust and sweat and blood;

who strives valiantly; who errs
and comes short again and again

because there is no effort
without error and shortcomings;

who knows the great enthusiasms,
the great devotions;
who spends himself in a worthy cause;

who at best knows in the end,
the triumph of high achievement;
and who at worst, if he fails,
at least fails while daring greatly;
so that his place shall never be
with those cold and timid souls
who know neither victory nor defeat.

~ Theodore Roosevelt (1858–1919)

















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8/17/2010 6:51:39 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  
vestalman
Knoxville, TN
age: 46


PLEASE!!! It's people like you who have turned myself and many others against your archaic religion! Your pompous self righteousness disgusts me, and many others.

8/17/2010 9:03:00 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57







8/17/2010 9:51:40 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57






8/19/2010 7:57:13 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

wildkhaine
Everett, WA
age: 28


I think we need to revive the practice of feeding the Christians to the lions like the old days in Rome. You can definitely go first.

9/7/2010 11:28:11 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

cassetoi
Lynnwood, WA
age: 37


The soul re-incarnates either through force or cohersion from the dark angels of this reality/dimension. In truth there are very few souls that will ever see the eternity that they are promised from the dark god of this world. Most souls, even those of generally good people, will simply cease to exist. There is no heaven..there is no hell. There are places where one can feel as if it is heaven or hell but in reality they do not exist. These are levels of existence or dimensions of reality in which darkness is most prominent and all powerful. There are varying levels of existence all of which are considered negative or dark. Ones soul can travel to these levels, through astral projection or mediation of the more secretive type but at great peril to the soul, the mind and the body. As there are entities that can rend the body, infect the mind with insanity and madness and trap the soul or enslave it for aeons. Those souls that are of the light will be saved from the fate of those souls who have given themselves over to the darkness or who have been usurped by the darkness. Their fate is oblivion or extinction. They will simply cease to exist. There are those who have tried to seek out these dimensions in hopes of eternal life and salvation. But alas, it only leads to death of the eternal nature. The soul cannot be saved except by the beings of the light and the self through study and realization of WHAT KIND OF DIMENSION YOU EXIST AND WHO IS IN CONTROL of this dimension. Only through realization of WHAT THE DARKNESS IS AND HOW IT OPERATES in this level of reality can you hope to see eternal life. WHich in itself is not life.Life is physical and created. All things that are created have an expiration date and therefore eternal life is not physical. The bible decieves people in the hopes and aspirations they will INHERIT THE PHYSICAL EARTH.when in reality they cannot inherit the physical earth as it and the physical universe will cease to be and therefoe ther will be nothing to inherit. This is a very subtle trap of the darkness that plays on people instinctive search for salvation and god/creator in which a lie is promised but will never be fulfilled. The darkness traps souls in the body through lies and deceit such as these and tales of salvation and sacrifice and duty to man to gain the favor of the creator to gain eternal life. But the physical creator too was created and has a termination date. As I have stated most souls will NEVER SEE ETERNITY in its tru and spirit form but will simply cease to be.

9/8/2010 5:51:18 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

4evr6y
Over 2,000 Posts (2,346)
Morgan, VT
age: 68


ouch that's too hard to follow....
could you go slower and try to be more specific?

9/8/2010 7:54:24 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  
ready_to_rock
Over 2,000 Posts (3,110)
Albion, IL
age: 50


Quote from 4evr6y:
ouch that's too hard to follow....
could you go slower and try to be more specific?



MEEEE TOOOOO!
LMAO!

9/8/2010 1:33:51 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57




9/8/2010 2:03:10 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57




I don't mean to laugh at the person who posted above ,
it is the comments that were left after that are funny

it is sad how these days many people make up all kinds of things

& It sounds to me like another manifestation of someone's vivid imagination ...

I try to respect everyone's right to believe what they want...
but unfortunately ...it is really tragic how misled so many people are

it is real popular these days
for young people to be drawn to darkness & that gothic crap

having vampire incisors implanted ...yes , it is very serious to some

http://www.theescapist.com/vampfan.htm

satan is trying his best to encompass who he may and draw the multitudes away



I have kids in their thirties & know many young people
and they have had their exposures to that dark gothic thing too ...
but they never bought into that kind of stuff

& their instinctual sense of right & wrong overrided any peer pressure
their upbringing and the important principles of life & of the Light Prevailed


living in darkness is Not a place where any of us want to be

and i am not being closed minded at all...
i have searched for many years as to the source of Truth

wondering if my upbringing was the truth or if it was still out there
and i come back again and again to the old fashioned Gospel of Jesus Christ

Christ shows me again and again that there is no other way






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9/8/2010 2:03:56 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

cassetoi
Lynnwood, WA
age: 37


I will try to explain it simpler. The majority of people who worship the god of the bible do not know that the god of the bible is a dark god and represents the darkness or a negative force. These people will lay their hopes of eternal life into the lies based on the worship of this god and the bible. The true light source which gives energy to this existence in the forms of souls and atoms will one day no longer give that energy. Then this world, this universe and all thats in it will cease to function or exist. No created thing can have a life or function in the universe without ENERGY. No energy equals no life. The only reason this universe and the world functions is based on the energy that it gets from the true light/energy source. The true source is Light and Purity. Pure Light Energy. Likewise, those who know this truth and accept it as such will be removed before the source quits giving its energy to this dimension. When the source no longer gives its energy to this dimension all things will cease to operate and will simply cease to be. Like when a radio loses its ability to power itself either through electricity or battery it will simply sit and decay and cease to be. It will return to its natural state of atoms. Likewise these atoms will retun to their natural state of "free energy" that will no longer exist here. Thus, those who think they will be saved by good deeds and prayers to the dark god of this world will cease to be as the energy they would have gotten from the source will no longer be given. Then the life that was in them will no longer exist as the energy that gives that life will be removed. There is no salvation from a place called hell. What I was refering to by various levels of dimensions is this. There are other realms, dimensions, realities in this universe and other universes that can be accessed by man? Most people are not TAUGHT HOW TO ACCESS THIS FUINCTION IN THEMSELVES AND ARE FOOLED, LIED TO AND DUPED INTO BELIEVING THESE THINGS DO NOT EXIST WHEN IN REALITY THEY DO Those who have the ability to go to these realms and come back fully sane and intact, teach this to others or write it down in the form of doctrine. Most of, if not all of, these places are created by the dark god, his dark angels/gods and serve his purposes. These places are pure evil or negative energy. Black. They therefore can be see as forms of hell. However, the hell in the bible is fiction and is NOTHING in comparision to the REAL realiities of these dimensions. Example = in science you are taught that space/time is circular or linear..correct This is true to a certain point in space/time. Beyond that point all space and time are ANGLULAR within these angles exist various entities, forces, powers and gods that are created from the PUREST of dark energy and their realms or homes are likewise pure evil/darkness. There are things or life forms that are called Hounds of Tindalos. These hounds exist on these OUTER levels and those who know how to access these outer levels may encounter them. When done, these hounds or guardians (better name) will follow these travellers back to their home dimension and attack from the ANGLES of ones home, work, car wherever this is an angle that they can MANIFEST or BECOME PHYSICAL. Then the person or wayward traveller will be terminated. This is but one price to pay for having this knowledge and accessing these levels of life. There are many levels of life forms that cannot be fully explained or understood. There are places in this universe that holds lifeforms whose desctructive and negative nature is incomprehensible to the average person. I assure you they exist same as "Alien" life exist and operates on this planet and this 3rd dimension. There over 8 dimensions in this universe and all can be accessed by those who know to. This knowledge is dangerous and is generally not given to or told to 99% of the populace for reasons of their own safety and for reasons of control. Likewise, the world governments are working with the dark gods and dark angels in the physical form of alien bodies and deceive the populace and lie to them that these entities do not exist. How truly foolish one is to believe that in all the vastness of the universe the only LIFE IS ON EARTH. This is another more blatant way of control of people through lies and deceptions that they are the sole occupiers of the universe. The dark god of the bible has more deceptions that entraps people on various levels of understanding. To keep a person ignornat of his surroundings ensures his slavery and servial nature. Slaves were not taught of the world, or its knowledge. In this capacity they could be more docile to control because of fear of the unknown. Likewise religion teaches that the unknown is to be feared and not understood. Therefore the abilites that man has at his disposal to experience the full nature of physical life and all its aspects are with held and he is controlled through fear and intimidation. Therefore his ascention in the spiritual sense is halted and his soul is enslaved and trapped in the body. This is a more subtle way of condemnation of the light energy that the dark god knows will not escape this dimension or its fate. The dark god does not wish to return to the light or have any of the lights energy in the form of souls and spirits to return either and will dupe, fool, lie to and deceive all and any whom it can so that when the time for the removal of the light energy comes they will suffer the same fate as the darkness. Its existence as well as theirs will no longer be.

9/8/2010 2:04:18 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

cassetoi
Lynnwood, WA
age: 37


The bible speaks of such things but in a deceptive manner and cannot be fully trusted because the bible is based on and written under the influence of the dark god especially certain books such as the Old Testament and the books of revelation. Whenever the light tries to give its truth in the form of written doctrine the darkness intercedes and corrupts the doctrine. There are many passages in the books of revelation that have been changed, re-written, had things added to or removed from them before being re-issued under the guise of being easier to read and understand. The true light is only to be understood by those who can receive its truth or light. Likewise those who wrote the bible and then re-wrote the bible and translated it and re-translated it have done so with the intent of deceit and deception. The truth is not easily understood or concluded to and it is not meant to be so. Therefore by simplifying the truth so ALL CAN UNDERSTAND it they are giving darkness in the form of light. The true light can be understood only by those whom the source intended to understand. Many people have been corrupted by the darkness and the truth cannot be told to or understood by these people. Therefore trying to make the truth simpler by taking away from it or adding to it is the work of the darkness and should not be trusted. Unless you have the correct doctrine you will never know the difference. Thus, those who depend on this book and its teachings for Salvation will not receive that Salvation as Salvation cannot be received in a book. The knowledge that a book may contain can LEAD TO SELF SALVATION. You cannot rely on ANY GOD FOR YOUR SALVATION..ONLY RELY ON YOUR PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE SOURCE AND THE DARKNESS AND HOW THIS WORLD OPERATES WILL YOU BE ABLE TO EXCAPE ITS FATE. The source does not promise any special life other than RELIEF from this oppressive place with its various miseries, sufferings, grief’s, strife’s and hardships. There is much more to say regarding this topic but I will let those who can receive this light digest it and contemplate its reality and truth. The eternal truth is love under will. Do what thou will is the law of the source. I assure you the source does not condemn you for being who you are and living life that makes you happy. Only the dark god condemns and sends those to fire and brimstone who do not serve HIM and HIS wishes. Do not be deceived.

9/8/2010 2:26:40 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

cassetoi
Lynnwood, WA
age: 37


How funny it is to see the people who have been duped by the lies of the bible and act as if they have found the truth when the bible itself was written as a lie and is based off lies. I repeat...those who follow the god of the bible are deceived and will not accept the light for what it is. They will argue vehemently, that the god of the bible and its doctrine within is THE ACTUAL WORDS OF GOD. They will cast judgement on all who oppse this so-called truth when they themselves have LITTLE TO NO KNOWLEDGE AT ALL OF THE BIBLE, ITS PASSAGES OR THOSE WHO WROTE THE BIBLE AND WHY. People will say how the god of the bible is love and he cares for all life and all people. Yet, in the same bible and various passages from god and about god that show gods anger, wrath, jealousy, vengence and hate. "Vengence is mine said the lord" how can one claim to be a being of LOVE AND LIGHT but in the same instance promote hate, death and destruction. Yet, these followers will somehow have a useless explanation on WHY god behaves in such a vile manner. These people will lie to and deceive others into following this god and the doctrine of the bible and by doing so are doing the work of the dark god. They themselves do not know this is a dark god and when told and given substantial evidence they will still resist. These people have given their free will to the darkness and will not accept the light. The light IS IN THE BIBLE BUT IS HIDDEN in its various passages.The average church going bible reader will NEVER FIND THEM but will honestly believe they have and spread that belief to others and condemn their souls to oblivion. Do not trust or follow these people. The truth of the god of the bible can be seen in its many passages as such:

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)

The god of the bible will condemn people to death for their OWN sexual activities. Yet, this is the same god who loves ALL PEOPLE..EXCEPT THOSE WHO DO NOT DO AS HE SAYS. THIS IS SIN. SIN IS LACK OF OBEDIENCE OR A SLAVE GETTING OUT LINE WITH THE MASTER AND MUST BE PUNISHED IN ORDER TO SHOW THE OTHERS NOT TO FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLE.


Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19)


Hmm, if you worship a different god other than the god of the bible you are condemned to death. NO FREEDOM OF RELIGION WHATSOEVER!!! Do as you are told or DIE!!! NO
EXCEPTIONS!


Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)


Again, if you seek ANY OTHER SOURCE OF SALVATION OTHER THAN THE GOD OF THE JEWS/ISRAEL you are to put to death.




Kill Brats

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24)


Again, because children are children and will act as such, it is ok to "CURSE" them in the name of the Lord and have them killed by use of "Black Magick". How truly funny and sad it is that readers of the bible DO NOT SEE THESE FOR WHAT THEY ARE. DARK PASSAGES BY A DARK AND EVIL GOD WHO ENJOYS DEATH, PUNISHMENT AND TORTURE OF ALL PEOPLE INCLUDING HIS OWN CHOSEN WHO HE HAS ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION CURSED OR DESTROYED. People will claim that God of the bible loves and respects life, but these passages in HIS BOOK WRITTEN BY HIS PEOPLE ABOUT HIM AND THEM AND THEIR INTERACTION WITH THE OTHERS IN THE WORLD PAINT A MORE VIVID AND SINISTER STORY. But they will deny it to the day they will cease to be.


9/9/2010 12:07:01 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


cassetoi ...it is obvious that you are very deceived ..

i would block you, but i pity you for you are soo brainwashed

& you are the one who has been duped by the enemy who is satan the father of all lies

You are soo unenlightened and misunderstand so drastically God's Word

I pray that you are born again brand new of the Holy Spirit

that you will be able to see things from a Spiritual standpoint...

then all your negative preconceived notions will fall away

like leaves on a beautiful brisk windy autumn day










Psalm 23 (King James Version)


1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,

I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies:

thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life:

and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.




9/9/2010 1:23:27 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

pike45
Over 2,000 Posts (2,294)
Omaha, NE
age: 57


Quote from alonghairedlady:
cassetoi ...it is obvious that you are very deceived ..

i would block you, but i pity you for you are soo brainwashed

& you are the one who has been duped by the enemy who is satan the father of all lies

You are soo unenlightened and misunderstand so drastically God's Word

I pray that you are born again brand new of the Holy Spirit

that you will be able to see things from a Spiritual standpoint...

then all your negative preconceived notions will fall away

like leaves on a beautiful brisk windy autumn day










Psalm 23 (King James Version)


1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,

I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies:

thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life:

and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.








9/9/2010 5:34:37 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

4evr6y
Over 2,000 Posts (2,346)
Morgan, VT
age: 68


Seeking God and finding God constitute the most thrilling adventure of a lifetime. There is no pursuit quite as satisfying or quite as all-encompassing as the pursuit of truth, beauty and goodness, all of which are found in the always-enlarging realization of the Father. Jesus teaches us that it is"... the greatest discovery possible for the human soul to make—the supernal experience of finding God for yourself, in yourself, and of yourself, and of doing all this as a fact in your own personal experience."


9/10/2010 1:26:49 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

cassetoi
Lynnwood, WA
age: 37


If you wish to block me thats fine. I do not care really. I simple answered the question. If you disapprove of my answer thats not my fault.

9/10/2010 1:31:37 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from cassetoi:
If you wish to block me thats fine. I do not care really. I simple answered the question. If you disapprove of my answer thats not my fault.



i really do not wish to block any one but if people are rude, they get blocked

we all have the right to believe as we do and you have not been rude so you are here

i have been through a lot in life and i have children very very close in age to you

and if i can share the Light of God with you, and you are receptive , i will be grateful ...


if you are not receptive to it, then all i can do is pray for you

that God will reveal Himself to you in a Mighty way ...

you are welcome to be here as i said

but please do not be disrespectful to the beliefs stated within

if you choose not to do that ...then you won't be welcome ...

and there are many atheist threads you can go to

where many Godless people badmouth my Lord


so if that is your purpose here , please take it elsewhere...

if not ,,,then i have no problem with you ...

but i think you have stated quite fully how you feel or at least mostly


and you have made your point even though it is not considered

You see ..there is no need to give energy to the counterfeit


For there is nothing Like the Genuine Article & Jesus is the Real Deal


when you have truly been in the Presence of the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords

everything else pales in comparison to Jesus ///He is the way the truth and the life

so i will pray for you , that you will experience God in a brand new way

and that the Holy Spirit encompasses you with a newness of Spirit

a purity and cleanness you never thought possible & total deliverence from the imposter


When a person is truly touched by the Holy Spirit , His or her life is never the same



Jesus of Nazareth (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znN1Adv_htE&feature=fvw







[Edited 9/10/2010 1:35:02 PM ]

9/10/2010 1:34:16 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from 4evr6y:
Seeking God and finding God constitute the most thrilling adventure of a lifetime. There is no pursuit quite as satisfying or quite as all-encompassing as the pursuit of truth, beauty and goodness, all of which are found in the always-enlarging realization of the Father. Jesus teaches us that it is"... the greatest discovery possible for the human soul to make—the supernal experience of finding God for yourself, in yourself, and of yourself, and of doing all this as a fact in your own personal experience."




Amen

thank you so much for stopping by & for your wonderful comments , my Brother








9/10/2010 3:02:44 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

cassetoi
Lynnwood, WA
age: 37


The whole point is this. The bible, like any book, was written by MAN. Also, if people simply READ the bible only and DO NOT DO ANY OTHER INDEPENDENT RESEARCH ABOUT the bible and what is said therein off the reference of other books related to the bible?? then the only truth they have found is the truth they WANT to accept. People will be provided EVIDENCE of this truth. THERE IS SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE that the bible is a COMPILATION OR COMPILEMENT of many other books that the CHURCH decided to give to the layman to understand god based on these books being acceptable to the church. It is a well known fact that the stories about Genesis and the creation of man are based LARGELY OFF EARLIER SUMERIAN stories. A well known fact. Likewise the stories of the flood and noah were based off Sumerian tales of "The Epic of Gilgamesh" which was the flood incident and Noah is based off Ziusudra the son of the Annunaki god Enki. Incidently, the first five books of the bible also called the "Torah" were just re-writes of the Sumerians, Egyptians and Babalonians. This also can be proven. Again, people thinking that the bible is the ACTUAL words of god are deceived and this too can be proven. Yet, when faced with these facts people act as if they for some reason cannot be wrong even though evidence proves the opposite. Then, these people want to ban you have you cast out or say you will burn in a fictional hell because you pose a position that does not go according to their belief based on their ill education of the book or books in which they have placed their faith. I for one would NOT PLACE MY FAITH AND THE SALVATION OF MY SOUL AND SPIRIT ETERNAL on something or in something that may not hold all the truth? I say things not to be offensive but to give knowledge or gnosis. This is what the Christ did. Jesus himself throughout many passages of the New Testament condemned the writers of the bible and the god of the bible. It is there. Even with this evidence people are still resistant to the end. Now, if you did outside research that provided significant evidence of the wrong information and misleading changes and additions to the bible in its many, many different translations and that due to these changes and the majority not knowing them, that they in turn would respond a certain way when confronted with the truthfulness of its contents would that not make you see that there must be truth to what you have researched based off their re-actions being pre-disposed to you and them acting accordingly to this? Thus, is why so many people are turned off by religion and especially christianity becasue of the BLIND allegiance and hateful condemnation of those who disagree with them. Christians are fast, very, very fast to condemn someone or act hateful towards those people if they point out discrepencies in the bible. As if the christian wrote the bible themselves when in fact they did not and it was the Levites and the Sanhedrin. Those who have the TRUTH are to give it to those who do not. I am simply doing so. There are those who will read my words and they will ring true to them and there are others who are lost and cannot be found or showed the truth and they will run from it, hide from it or try their best to kill the messenger. Whether that be physically, emotionally or mentally by various forms of verbal persecution as the christians have always done. Christians are fast to condemn others of their actions but who is willing among them to admit to the many atrocities the christians have committed? None, if any at all. This is the point exactly, they are mislead by a book that promotes death and destruction to believers who do not obey and non-believers who have a different outlook or different god. Just as does the Qu'ran. Yet, Islam is a terrible religion to the christians who follow almost the exact kind of logic.

9/10/2010 8:59:32 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57





The Bible was written with man's hands

under the Inspiration & Guidance of the Holy Spirit

that is what you don't grasp still being of a finite limited comprehension ...


I am not saying i am smarter than you , it is that i have been born again in the Spirit

and like i mentioned , when a person is reborn in the Spirit


you see life & the ways of God in a brand new light

like you have never been able to understand things before ,,,

it defies human explanation truly

so we walk by faith and not by sight

Hebrews 11:1 (King James Version)

1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for,

the evidence of things not seen.

























[Edited 9/10/2010 9:06:01 PM ]

9/10/2010 11:14:37 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

cassetoi
Lynnwood, WA
age: 37


How nice of you to post your opinions instead of some facts? The bible was written under the inspiration of god you say? SOOOO.....if god says all homosexuals are to be killed, then YOU MUST ALSO SUPPORT THEIR DEATHS? CORRECT? Being that of course you support god and his will and his will is to kill them and NOT GIVE THEM RIGHTS SUCH AS GAY RIGHTS? Correct, you MUST ALSO DENY GAY RIGHTS AS WELL AND SUPPORT THEIR DEATHS? SAME AS THE BIBLE.

9/11/2010 8:27:39 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from cassetoi:
How nice of you to post your opinions instead of some facts? The bible was written under the inspiration of god you say? SOOOO.....if god says all homosexuals are to be killed, then YOU MUST ALSO SUPPORT THEIR DEATHS? CORRECT? Being that of course you support god and his will and his will is to kill them and NOT GIVE THEM RIGHTS SUCH AS GAY RIGHTS? Correct, you MUST ALSO DENY GAY RIGHTS AS WELL AND SUPPORT THEIR DEATHS? SAME AS THE BIBLE.


no they are not opinions , they are fact...

gay rights///what a joke only it's not funny...

gay is happy , they are not happy ..they are lost



God will judge the homosexuals and child molestors and the murderers of innocence

and God is not pleased for their abominations & transgressions,

many are so lawless and are behaving as in the days of sodom and gommorah

what God does to those people is His Decision...that is not my call...

The homosexuals and other deviants have been told of the gospel of Jesus Christ

and they turn their back on Him...

He created them as He created everything

& He gave us free will we all have choices .

.we can either serve God or serve the devil , it's our choice

and God will deal with all men for either being righteous servants of Him

or for choosing darkness over the Light ..It is really clear and cut and dry




God will Judge those who chose to be of the darkness & to fall away from God's Grace ...

they have choices and they who are choosing darkness over the Light will pay


for the wages of sin is death

but the gift of God is Eternal Life through Jesus Christ Our Lord

Romans 6:23



I know men who were homosexual & who have given their lives over to Jesus Christ ,

have gotten married to women and fathered children and they are soo glad they did ...


end of story...


now go fight with someone else....

I am not interested in hearing your verbal accusations






by Bob Dylan


Gotta Serve Somebody
You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody

You might be a rock ’n’ roll addict prancing on the stage
You might have drugs at your command, women in a cage
You may be a businessman or some high-degree thief
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody

You may be a state trooper, you might be a young Turk
You may be the head of some big TV network
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame
You may be living in another country under another name

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody

You may be a construction worker working on a home
You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome
You might own guns and you might even own tanks
You might be somebody’s landlord, you might even own banks

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody

You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride
You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side
You may be workin’ in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair
You may be somebody’s mistress, may be somebody’s heir

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody

Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody

You may call me Terry, you may call me Timmy
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray
You may call me anything but no matter what you say

You’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody



[Edited 9/11/2010 8:32:09 AM ]

9/15/2010 9:00:16 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57








9/15/2010 10:28:09 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

4evr6y
Over 2,000 Posts (2,346)
Morgan, VT
age: 68


Van you da man...
I heard him interviewed back in the 60's...
he was so blitzed ya couldn't even make out what he said
or maybe i was , but it looks like
eventually
we both came around

9/15/2010 11:04:03 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from 4evr6y:
Van you da man...
I heard him interviewed back in the 60's...
he was so blitzed ya couldn't even make out what he said
or maybe i was , but it looks like
eventually
we both came around
















[Edited 9/15/2010 11:05:03 AM ]

9/15/2010 2:54:43 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

begbear1952
Over 2,000 Posts (2,201)
Easley, SC
age: 58


My soul is going to land up on the rooftop and hang on the chimney, alongside the Frisbee, for eternity. I know it for a fact, because a co-worker once told me.

9/15/2010 4:56:21 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

4evr6y
Over 2,000 Posts (2,346)
Morgan, VT
age: 68


M'Lady if i may interject a bit of my philosopgy...

Quote from begbear1952:
My soul is going to land up on the rooftop and hang on the chimney, alongside the Frisbee, for eternity. I know it for a fact, because a co-worker once told me.

nooo ....i don't think so...

an exerpt from my favorite book...

Soul. The soul of man is an experiential acquirement. As a mortal creature chooses to "do the will of the Father in heaven," so the indwelling spirit becomes the father of a new reality in human experience. The mortal and material mind is the mother of this same emerging reality. The substance of this new reality is neither material nor spiritual—it is morontial. This is the emerging and immortal soul which is destined to survive mortal death ....
Morontia is a term designating a vast level intervening between the material and the spiritual.

9/16/2010 9:33:53 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from begbear1952:
My soul is going to land up on the rooftop and hang on the chimney, alongside the Frisbee, for eternity. I know it for a fact, because a co-worker once told me.





well, if your co worker told you that your soul

is going to land up on the roof and hang onto the chimney

alongside the Frisbee , for all of eternity ...

then of course it is something to definitely believe in...

right?

















of course you are kidding,...


energy doesn't just die does it ? i don't have to be a physics major to know that


i know in my heart that energy just doesn't just die never to be seen or felt again

When my fiance fell from the top of a load of lumber off the back of a semi truck


and suffered massive head injury taking the whole entire fall

from two or three pallets up from the flat bed with his brain stem

he tried to get up even after he hit his head & it took four huge paramedics to sedate him

he lived for only two weeks after that tragic fall suffering massive head injury

I know in my heart of hearts that his body may have died

but that his spirit is somewhere else far away from that


i believe that he has come to visit me several times

since that fatal day to see how i am weathering




he knows i took it hard and have never been the same since








However as a Caterpillar changes into a Lovely Butterfly during Metamorphosis



and ...as a lovely purple crocus bursts forth from the cold frozen snow




as a cold hard seed is placed into the ground & watered with spring rain


and shoots forth a brand new green living sprout


well,,,,so shall our Heavenly spirits God Given & Eternal ~ Rise once again !!!





















[Edited 9/16/2010 9:40:59 AM ]

9/16/2010 11:54:07 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from 4evr6y:
M'Lady if i may interject a bit of my philosophy...


Yes ~ Kind Sir You may proceed








Quote from begbear1952:
My soul is going to land up on the rooftop and hang on the chimney, alongside the Frisbee, for eternity. I know it for a fact, because a co-worker once told me.

nooo ....i don't think so...

an exerpt from my favorite book...

Soul. The soul of man is an experiential acquirement. As a mortal creature chooses to "do the will of the Father in heaven," so the indwelling spirit becomes the father of a new reality in human experience. The mortal and material mind is the mother of this same emerging reality. The substance of this new reality is neither material nor spiritual—it is morontial. This is the emerging and immortal soul which is destined to survive mortal death ....
Morontia is a term designating a vast level intervening between the material and the spiritual.






































9/16/2010 2:20:34 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from begbear1952:
No, not really. It is a way to trivialize religioslty that comes across to me as attempted intimidation. In fact, let me ask you a question.

Are you possibly addicted to religion? There is an excellent book on the subject written by Father Leo Booth, a Catholic priest who found his salvation once he discovered he had been using religion to control other people.

My "frisbee" comment was a signal to you -- I am not susceptible to being controlled by religion.

But since you believe it is entirely appropriate to throw out extremely private questions publicly, I have one for you; how is your sex life? Is it healthy, or unhealthy? Do you repress your own sexuality? Is your challenge to other people about their souls fueled by inability to deal with your own sexuality, or perhaps the anger I see being advertised in flashing red lights on your post?

That's four questions in one, just like the six sides of a crystal, or the three-in-one God of Christianity.

If you want to talk - let's talk.

Respectfully,

bb




oh my Gosh...

you have the flippin nerve to down play what is spiritual to me


and elevate yourself


respectfully you say ...huh ?

so what do you go off on someone you don't even know & make untrue accusations

and then you try to size them up as if you have known that person for years ,

and then you say respectfully


i don't think you know even slightly what respectful is

"
if i want to talk ...let's talk...??????? "


that is hilarious ...only not funny

i gave you the benefit of the doubt and you took the low road

& you really think i would even think of talking to you


except to slap your face & tell you off after that bunch of garbage ???


only because you had the nerve to come into my thread

and say such horrible things will i say this to you



and that is all i will say to you


and after this you are not welcome here anywhere




i am not one who appreciates any one who trivializes God as you begin to say

i find that comment and your presence here to be destructive and very callous


and extremely conceited and egotistical & insensitive to me or what i am saying

& up until today , i never saw you before in my life...



it is your opinion that i asked a personal question ...



i think your questions to me are much much more private and personal ...

i am a lady and i conduct myself as such

you do not know me nor what i have been through in life

and you have proven with your filthy comments that you do not deserve to know me

and you are to be removed from my presence , cause you are making me sick




soo.....how is it that you feel qualified to assume such things

& disrespect my beliefs when you don't know me



you are questioning my sexuality and going on and on with nonsense...




i find that to be extremely Ungentlemanly & none of your damn business

and very egotistical and lacking sensitivity or compassion or class


you totally ignored my meaningful life experience about losing my fiance


& didn't even comment at all about it

and then just rattled in with an accusation of being addicted to religion ?


no i don't want to talk to you at all ...

you are a creep and one of those guys i avoid like the plaque


such nerve...another big neanderthal man with no heart or integrity



no southern gentleman in you



[Edited 9/16/2010 2:27:35 PM ]

9/16/2010 3:25:41 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57










[Edited 9/16/2010 3:26:26 PM ]

9/18/2010 9:56:59 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  
proverbwoman
Salisbury, NC
age: 48


Sweetie they are not attacking you...but the very word of God....just remember when they reject you they rejected HIM first..So be of good cheer....When you go through trials and tribulations and false accusations, consider this a token of your righteousness...and consider this....those that are attacking you and responding to you, even in a negative way, you my friend have struck a chord in them, now it is time to let the Holy Spirit do the rest...as it is not your battle, You my sweet friend are only the messenger....The battle belongs to the LORD!. Let those who can hear, hear and those who can see, see....Your sister in Christ Trisha

9/18/2010 9:58:34 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  
proverbwoman
Salisbury, NC
age: 48


Even Jesus went to the garden....now go get some rest!

9/18/2010 11:42:43 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from proverbwoman:
Sweetie they are not attacking you...but the very word of God....just remember when they reject you they rejected HIM first..So be of good cheer....When you go through trials and tribulations and false accusations, consider this a token of your righteousness...and consider this....those that are attacking you and responding to you, even in a negative way, you my friend have struck a chord in them, now it is time to let the Holy Spirit do the rest...as it is not your battle, You my sweet friend are only the messenger....The battle belongs to the LORD!. Let those who can hear, hear and those who can see, see....Your sister in Christ Trisha



Thank you Trisha

I am totally aware that they are attacking Christianity ,

I am not new to this at all....

however that sasquatch begbear was very disrespectful

completely inappropriate & was attacking me too

I would like others to come to God and Know His Love

but i don't tolerate any disrespect ever

not in the real world and certainly not in the cyber world ..


& he got what was coming to him


he had the nerve to bring sexuality into a spiritual conversation ...

and if he had an ounce of courtesy about him he would have treated me properly



and it is not a matter of repressed sex as he put it


it is a matter of transcending the carnal flesh for the Holy Spirit


the difference from being in the world but not of the world


any one can act like a brainless c*ckroach and have illicit sex


it takes no class or integrity & alley cats do it all day & night


but the true evidence of a Godly Person is one who seeks Holy Spiritual Things

not one who seeks worldly things or the temporary lusts of the flesh
















9/18/2010 5:15:22 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

d_voted
Over 2,000 Posts (2,156)
Winnipeg, MB
age: 58


Dear Cassetoi,

"Kill Brats

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24) "


This does not follow logically that Christians (or those who are Jewish - as 2 Kings is an Old Testament Book) are to Kill Brats. In fact it simply illustrates that a man of God will be protected by God Himself. The idea that someone would have control over a couple of shebears and guide them to tear forty two children to pieces gives rise to a person to consider well before insulting either God or a man of God (or woman of God).

Being somewhat familiar with bear behavior (having worked in the bush for a number of years when I was younger) I know that a bear will NOT go on a rampage and kill that many children or any other animals. They kill to protect their young, their territory or when they are hungry. So the idea presented in the aforementioned passage gives cause to think that something quite out of the ordinary caused this behavior.

Some people believe that the Bible is literally and historically correct while others consider the Bible to be authored by God through the power of His Holy Spirit's inspiration to man. In either case God is the author. To the non-believer this seems like nonsense. It seems to defy reason in either case and therefore can be dismissed along with all those who claim to adhere to the teachings therein.

Many persons with brilliant minds have had sincere doubts about the whole 'faith' thing and more specifically about the behavior and motives of those who propose that there is a God or more specifically the Christian doctrine. It is hard to conceive of a Trinity which includes Father, Son and Holy Spirit as one in the same being. It goes against the laws of physics. Further to that there is ample evidence to be presented that some who claim these things to be true have done so in order to gain power, prestige, and fleece their flock for personal gain. That this may be true does not prove nor disprove the actual premise of the Trinity. What it does prove is that A) Some people in positions of power abuse that power and B) some people are easily misled (Like the war in Iraq).

There is also a fear that one may lose one's autonomy if one becomes a 'follower of Christ' or a believer. It is a common misconception that my personal identity cannot depend upon someone else's value system. However that assumes that the churchs are made by man and are not inspired. There seems to be no way of knowing for sure unless one is willing to take a risk and 'tempt fate' by actually praying.

What if I pray and nothing is out there to answer my prayer. OR what if I pray and the answer comes that I don't like? What if my existing behavior is based on faulty ideas or erroneous ideals? I personally cannot verify for you about God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit and I don't want to.

However, I do think that it is probably worth the risk to SINCERELY, in the privacy of your own bedroom, ASK. A simple prayer such as, "OK God, I don't know if you exist or not but if you do I would really appreciate you reveal to me that you do exist."

What do you have to lose? Nothing.

I personally don't concern myself with etermity - Heaven or Hell (or Purgatory for that matter). These are concepts far to great for my grasp and outside of the scope of my responsibility anyways. IF they exist it is God's decision as to who will go where - NOT mine and it isn't a motivator for me anyways.

My profile says where I stand on the religion issue but I don't care about others as much as the OP does. She wants the best for everyone and so she starts a provocative thread in the hopes that someone who is not 'saved' could be. OK she is nicer than I am. I couldn't care less about your salvation.

I am from the prairies and like wide open spaces. Too many converts and heaven gets crowded - uncomfortable for me.

Be aware though - that refusing to make a decision or take a stand - IS taking a stand.
Just like the Iraq war. In spite of the intimidation of George Bush "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists." Innaction is a decision.

At least try the prayer thing. I don't care if heaven is crowded - I have to confess (because I am a Catholic) that I lied about that.

D

PS: When writing try to break down your ideas into paragraphs. Long sentences and too many ideas in one paragraph makes it difficult to read and get across your ideas clearly.



9/18/2010 5:55:27 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from d_voted:
Dear Cassetoi,

"Kill Brats

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24) "


This does not follow logically that Christians (or those who are Jewish - as 2 Kings is an Old Testament Book) are to Kill Brats. In fact it simply illustrates that a man of God will be protected by God Himself. The idea that someone would have control over a couple of shebears and guide them to tear forty two children to pieces gives rise to a person to consider well before insulting either God or a man of God (or woman of God).

Being somewhat familiar with bear behavior (having worked in the bush for a number of years when I was younger) I know that a bear will NOT go on a rampage and kill that many children or any other animals. They kill to protect their young, their territory or when they are hungry. So the idea presented in the aforementioned passage gives cause to think that something quite out of the ordinary caused this behavior.

Some people believe that the Bible is literally and historically correct while others consider the Bible to be authored by God through the power of His Holy Spirit's inspiration to man. In either case God is the author. To the non-believer this seems like nonsense. It seems to defy reason in either case and therefore can be dismissed along with all those who claim to adhere to the teachings therein.

Many persons with brilliant minds have had sincere doubts about the whole 'faith' thing and more specifically about the behavior and motives of those who propose that there is a God or more specifically the Christian doctrine. It is hard to conceive of a Trinity which includes Father, Son and Holy Spirit as one in the same being. It goes against the laws of physics. Further to that there is ample evidence to be presented that some who claim these things to be true have done so in order to gain power, prestige, and fleece their flock for personal gain. That this may be true does not prove nor disprove the actual premise of the Trinity. What it does prove is that A) Some people in positions of power abuse that power and B) some people are easily misled (Like the war in Iraq).

There is also a fear that one may lose one's autonomy if one becomes a 'follower of Christ' or a believer. It is a common misconception that my personal identity cannot depend upon someone else's value system. However that assumes that the churchs are made by man and are not inspired. There seems to be no way of knowing for sure unless one is willing to take a risk and 'tempt fate' by actually praying.

What if I pray and nothing is out there to answer my prayer. OR what if I pray and the answer comes that I don't like? What if my existing behavior is based on faulty ideas or erroneous ideals? I personally cannot verify for you about God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit and I don't want to.

However, I do think that it is probably worth the risk to SINCERELY, in the privacy of your own bedroom, ASK. A simple prayer such as, "OK God, I don't know if you exist or not but if you do I would really appreciate you reveal to me that you do exist."

What do you have to lose? Nothing.

I personally don't concern myself with etermity - Heaven or Hell (or Purgatory for that matter). These are concepts far to great for my grasp and outside of the scope of my responsibility anyways. IF they exist it is God's decision as to who will go where - NOT mine and it isn't a motivator for me anyways.

My profile says where I stand on the religion issue but I don't care about others as much as the OP does. She wants the best for everyone and so she starts a provocative thread in the hopes that someone who is not 'saved' could be. OK she is nicer than I am. I couldn't care less about your salvation.

I am from the prairies and like wide open spaces. Too many converts and heaven gets crowded - uncomfortable for me.

Be aware though - that refusing to make a decision or take a stand - IS taking a stand.
Just like the Iraq war. In spite of the intimidation of George Bush "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists." Innaction is a decision.

At least try the prayer thing. I don't care if heaven is crowded - I have to confess (because I am a Catholic) that I lied about that.

D

PS: When writing try to break down your ideas into paragraphs. Long sentences and too many ideas in one paragraph makes it difficult to read and get across your ideas clearly.







My Dearest Canadian Friend D VOTED thank you for stoppin by


I have that rude dude begbear blocked, and others who were so rude here

I also had Cassetoi blocked , cause he was really going off on me

with really off the wall insanely hostile & caustic accusations

and i couldn't deal with it, so i locked him up & put a lid on his mouth

& so I am going to take him out of his cage for a little while

and see if he steps in to address you on this...Haha & we'll see what happens

I am going to step out for a little & get some fresh air & some cardiovascular exercise


so I will check in with you later !!! ...Thanks ...












9/18/2010 6:04:10 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from proverbwoman:
Even Jesus went to the garden....now go get some rest!




Okay ..thank you Sister...


I'm heading out right now thanks for caring ...






9/18/2010 7:58:08 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  
microphonejones
Miramar Beach, FL
age: 28


Somewhere between nowhere and Vegas.

9/21/2010 6:21:20 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

sonofagun231
Evart, MI
age: 55


Ok, so the question is where is your soul going to exist for all of eternity?

(That's good, I wouldn't want it to exist for just "part" of eternity).

You misunderstand what the scriptures say about life after death and eternity.

First off, you falsely assume you have (or any person has) an immortal soul and cannot die. This contradicts the scriptures you already quoted:

for the wages of sin is death,
but the gift of God is Eternal Life through Jesus Christ Our Lord

You see, the scriptures say the wages of sin is DEATH (not eternal life in a hot place!)and also: "the soul that sinneth, it shall surely die."

your "soul" can die - it is not eternal unless you are given that gift by God.

God will not torture people for eternity in the imaginary place called "Hell" - this is completely illogical if you believe God is love.

This idea was invented by religions that wanted to scare people into excepting their doctrines (and giving them money!). It's called "fear religion".

You probably won't understand or accept this truth unless it is given unto you to do so.

Hopefully you will.

9/22/2010 10:39:59 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  
kpoland
Deerfield Beach, FL
age: 66


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alonghairedlady

Rough and Ready, CA
age: 56 online now!

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Your'e to old to live in a dream world.

9/23/2010 9:40:30 AM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


Quote from kpoland:


Your'e to old to live in a dream world.





yes i am and so are you way too old to live in a silly dream world


so why do you continue to live in a really way behind the times fairy tale world ?


I am in the real world & that is why i believe in Creation


and do not believe in the ridiculously foolish myth of


the greatly disproven ~ consistently flawed ~ substandard theory of evolution













10/9/2010 8:41:24 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

gypsykat
Kimbolton, OH
age: 53


As I am uncertain where my soul has ventured before or where it may go henceforth, I have but this positive knowledge that it will not go to what you term "hell" or "heaven" as I truly believe that neither actually exists. My soul may take a break in between incarnations or it may continue with haste to its next destination.... I have not been given the 'sight', so I know not the answer. I do know that my physical body will be left behind to nourish my ultimate Mother - the Earth, and my soul will convene with my untimate Father - the Universe, so that I may understand the new beginnings of my journey of "lessons."

Another of your questions: Where do I stand before God? I stand proudly before Him, able to say that I am staying on the path that I feel He and the Goddess have set me upon. I am kind to neighbor, friend, and stranger; I befriend all who come my way, I treat my body with respect and as the treasure They have given me.

I use the plants the Goddess so graciously put upon the Earth as food and medicine. I partake of meat from the hunt the Lord has willingly provided.

I am a healer ~ of body and mind, and I am always able to lend an ear or a hand when needed.

I dance with my God and Goddess in Our celebrations of the turning of the wheel of the year. I dance not only to please Them but to please myself. They are gracious and enjoy pleasure. They are giving and kind, and yet They have many moods and tempers.

I am not a "God-fearing" person - I do not fear my God or my Goddess ~ for I am a part of Them.

I am truly sorry that your mind and heart are so closed that you cannot begin to understand the beauty of ALL the many beliefs in this world. That you are so hooked into believing what you so freely spew forth and basically demanding that all others follow in your Bliss.

Well, sister, Keep your Bliss. And keep it to yourself or spread the "word" in the Christian threads provided in the Christian forums section of the DH world. We would appreciate and celebrate your leaving.

As for the ones you have blocked, and you say they spewed hate at you? I have read what you have quoted there, and find nothing wrong with the questions that he asked you. You sound like a very repressed person, sensually blocked, mentally biased, and totally off balance. I was hoping for a pleasant debate when I found this thread, but you have spewn hatred and venom, and repeated not one original word in this entire thread besides the venom. Anyone can cut and paste videos and pretty pictures........ do you have anything new or original to say?

As I may do no harm, I am content to ask you to return to your own realm, and leave us in peace.

Blessed Be.......... Kat

10/10/2010 1:48:23 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57


By Theodore Roosevelt

CITIZENSHIP IN A REPUBLIC

"The Man In The Arena"

Speech at the Sorbonne

Paris, France

April 23, 1910

The Famous Quote



It is not the critic who counts;

not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles,

or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.

The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,

whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood;

who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again,

because there is no effort without error and shortcoming;

but who does actually strive to do the deeds;

who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions;

who spends himself in a worthy cause;

who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement,

and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly,

so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls

who neither know victory nor defeat.



[Edited 10/10/2010 1:50:28 PM ]

10/10/2010 1:57:57 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

alonghairedlady
Over 2,000 Posts (2,596)
Snoqualmie Pass, WA
age: 57




10/12/2010 8:20:56 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

leikashadow
Massillon, OH
age: 32


I don't know where my soul will go, it's all so confusing

I have not yet found the path that works for me

Many times I thought I was close...

But nothing seems to work

I am curious tho

Why put the Doors' "Riders on the Storm" up here?

It's a beautiful song

Just not sure how it fits

Thanks!

10/12/2010 8:39:47 PM Where is your soul going to exist ~ for all of Eternity ?  

southside20
Newberry, SC
age: 21


I start to question the manmade bible when it says youre gonna go to a place called hell(which is also madeup) if youre not good.

COME ON! That only happens in fairytales or movies ETC..

as far as this topic goes: No one knows. Unless you feel the need to speak in gods place or quote from the manmade bible??

Fear god not the government. Accept god into your hearts, while being as good as humanly possible.. *note* we sin everyday, but our sins can be forgiven.

Dont say god is this powerful being that hates gays and murders. God is like a grandaddy longleg. If it bit you it would kill you in an instant! but it's mouth is too small to ever harm you in retrospect: God could smite all of us at any moment, but god is good and he would never do that.

We damn ourselves everyday based on our actions.

When you as a human fck up! It's your fault, not gods.