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8/20/2013 10:15:46 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

whays
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Country/Region IQ (2002)[2] IQ (2006)[1]
Hong Kong 107 108
Singapore 103 108
North Korea 105* 106*
South Korea 106 106
Japan 105 105
China 100 105
Taiwan 104 105
Italy 102 102
Iceland 98* 101
Mongolia 98* 101*
Switzerland 101 101
Austria 102 100
Luxembourg 101* 100*
Netherlands 102 100
Norway 98 100
United Kingdom 100 100
Germany 102 99
Belgium 100 99
Canada 97 99
Estonia 97* 99
Finland 97 99
New Zealand 100 99
Poland 99 99
Sweden 101 99
Andorra N/A 98*
Australia 98 98
Czech Republic 97 98
Denmark 98 98
France 98 98
Hungary 99 98
Latvia 97* 98*
Spain 97 98
United States 98 98
Belarus 96* 97*
Malta 95* 97
Russia 96 97
Ukraine 96* 97*
Moldova 95* 96*
Slovakia 96 96
Uruguay 96 96
Israel 94 95
Portugal 95 95
Armenia 93* 94*
Georgia 93* 94*
Kazakhstan 93* 94*
Romania 94 94
Vietnam 96* 94
Argentina 96 93
Bulgaria 93 93
Greece 92 92
Malaysia 92 92
Ireland 93 92
Brunei 92* 91*
Cambodia 89* 91*
Cyprus 92* 91*
Lithuania 97* 91
Republic of Macedonia 93* 91*
Thailand 91 91
Albania 90* 90*
Bermuda N/A 90
Bosnia and Herzegovina N/A 90*
Chile 93* 90
Croatia 90 90
Kyrgyzstan 87* 90*
Turkey 90 90
Mexico 87 90
Cook Islands N/A 89
Costa Rica 91* 89*
Laos 89* 89
Mauritius 81* 89
Suriname 89 89
Ecuador 80 88
Samoa 87 88
Azerbaijan 87* 87*
Bolivia 85* 87
Brazil 87 87
East Timor N/A 87*
Guyana 84* 87*
Indonesia 89 87
Iraq 87 87
Myanmar 86* 87*
Tajikistan 87* 87*
Turkmenistan 87* 87*
Uzbekistan 87* 87*
Kuwait 83* 86
Philippines 86 86
Seychelles 81* 86*
Tonga 87 86
Cuba 85 85
Fiji 84 85
Kiribati 84* 85*
New Caledonia N/A 85
Peru 90 85
Trinidad and Tobago 80* 85*
Yemen 83* 85
Afghanistan 83* 84*
Belize 83* 84*
Colombia 88 84
Federated States of Micronesia 84* 84*
Iran 84 84
Jordan 87* 84
Marshall Islands 84 84
Morocco 85 84
Pakistan 81* 84
Panama 84* 84*
Paraguay 85* 84
Puerto Rico 84 84
Saudi Arabia 83* 84*
Solomon Islands 84* 84*
The Bahamas 78* 84*
United Arab Emirates 83* 84*
Vanuatu 84* 84*
Venezuela 88* 84
Algeria 84* 83*
Bahrain 83* 83*
Libya 84* 83*
Oman 83* 83*
Papua New Guinea 84* 83
Syria 87* 83
Tunisia 84* 83*
Bangladesh 81* 82*
Dominican Republic 84* 82
India 81 82
Lebanon 86 82
Madagascar 79* 82
Egypt 83 81
Honduras 84* 81
Maldives 81* 81*
Nicaragua 84* 81*
Northern Mariana Islands N/A 81
Barbados 78 80
Bhutan 78* 80*
El Salvador 84* 80*
Guatemala 79 79
Sri Lanka 81* 79
Nepal 78 78
Qatar 78 78
Comoros 79* 77*
Cape Verde 78* 76*
Mauritania 73* 76*
Uganda 73 73
Kenya 72 72
South Africa 72 72
Tanzania 72 72
Ghana 71 71
Grenada 75* 71*
Jamaica 72 71
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 75* 71
Sudan 72 71
Zambia 77 71
Antigua and Barbuda 75* 70*
Benin 69* 70*
Botswana 72* 70*
Namibia 72* 70*
Rwanda 70* 70*
Togo 69* 70*
Burundi 70* 69*
Côte d’Ivoire 71* 69*
Malawi 71* 69*
Mali 68* 69*
Niger 67* 69*
Nigeria 67 69
Angola 69* 68*
Burkina Faso 66* 68*
Chad 72* 68*
Djibouti 68* 68*
Eritrea 68* 68*
Somalia 68* 68*
Swaziland 72* 68*
Dominica 75* 67
Guinea 63 67
Guinea-Bissau 63* 67*
Haiti 72* 67*
Lesotho 72* 67*
Liberia 64* 67*
Saint Kitts and Nevis 75* 67*
São Tomé and Príncipe 59* 67*
Senegal 64* 66*
The Gambia 64* 66*
Zimbabwe 66 66
Republic of the Congo 73 65
Cameroon 70* 64
Central African Republic 68* 64
Democratic Republic of the Congo 65 64
Ethiopia 63 64
Gabon 66* 64*
Mozambique 72* 64
Sierra Leone 64 64
Saint Lucia 75* 62
Equatorial Guinea 59 59

*From book of same title.

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8/20/2013 10:19:32 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
yellowbananas1
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i would like to see the method they used to determine this, but it makes sense.

8/20/2013 10:48:35 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
61falcon
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It is the dumbest list I have ever seen,most Americans haven't taken an IQ test of any kind let alone the people of the vast majority of those on that list.A figment of some idiots imagination.

8/20/2013 10:52:10 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

longbobby
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Israel ...a WHOPPING 94 95 !

Marginally more intelligent than American Negro's.

8/20/2013 10:57:30 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

tonyc4444
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I'm moving to Equatorial Guinea, I'll be a GOD!

8/20/2013 10:57:58 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

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Quote from tonyc4444:
I'm moving to Equatorial Guinea, I'll be a GOD!




8/20/2013 11:06:41 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

creepycawkasian
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While the idea of certain nations having populaces that are less educated (and to a certain extent actually less intelligent due to such factors as malnutrition and poor natal care) is assuredly true, the premise of the book is that such differences are genetic whereas they are actually caused by differing environments and governmental policies. Here is a link that explains the error in assuming the differences are racially based.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120807006238/en/American-Conservative-Debunks-%E2%80%9CGenetic-IQ-Determinism%E2%80%9D

8/20/2013 11:09:23 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
61falcon
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For 104 of the 185 nations they included they had NO data so they made it up by guessing.It is a book of fiction in no way factual.

8/20/2013 11:13:27 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

longbobby
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Quote from
For 104 of the 185 nations they included they had NO data so they made it up by guessing.It is a book of fiction in no way factual.
============================================

You're welcome to try and prove that with facts...but NOT by denying it is factual.

A denial is only proof of a refusal to admit the truth.

Frankly, I think your unsupported opinion is based on sour grapes due to the low ranking Israel received.



[Edited 8/20/2013 11:14:11 PM ]

8/20/2013 11:16:29 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

creepycawkasian
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Quote from 61falcon:
For 104 of the 185 nations they included they had NO data so they made it up by guessing.It is a book of fiction in no way factual.


I believe that.

8/20/2013 11:22:55 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
beer_goggles
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If I was going to pick nations, who live to survive and through extreme conditions, that obtain their own food, water and shelter, I would pick the lower half of this chart. I don't believe more that 30% of our nation, could do it on their own.

8/20/2013 11:23:59 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
61falcon
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The book was written by one man from Ireland and one from Denmark.They also wrote a sequel.

8/20/2013 11:24:47 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

tonyc4444
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Well there's book smart, street smart, and third world smart.

8/20/2013 11:35:18 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
61falcon
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They ignored the wealth of oil nations in the Middle East and diamond and gold wealth of nations in Africa.The book is pure fiction.

8/20/2013 11:39:48 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

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Quote from
They ignored the wealth of oil nations in the Middle East and diamond and gold wealth of nations in Africa.The book is pure fiction.
================================================

Actually I have seen that link online myself. They're all posted on the website but whays didn't post all of the nations listed on the website.

The OP deals with IQ's, shmel..NOT with literal "Wealth of Nations"

Try again, Shmel.

So far you HAVE proved once again your abysmal level of reading comprehension...probably par for the course with that 95 IQ, eh?

8/21/2013 7:01:33 AM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

whays
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Quote from creepycawkasian:
While the idea of certain nations having populaces that are less educated (and to a certain extent actually less intelligent due to such factors as malnutrition and poor natal care) is assuredly true, the premise of the book is that such differences are genetic whereas they are actually caused by differing environments and governmental policies. Here is a link that explains the error in assuming the differences are racially based.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120807006238/en/American-Conservative-Debunks-%E2%80%9CGenetic-IQ-Determinism%E2%80%9D


Utter nonsense. To deny the genetic aspect of intelligence is to deny reality.
It is akin to establishing separate laws of nature for homo sapiens.

8/21/2013 7:04:12 AM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

whays
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Quote from 61falcon:
They ignored the wealth of oil nations in the Middle East and diamond and gold wealth of nations in Africa.The book is pure fiction.


Don't be a fool. Oil resources and diamonds are natural resources. The people
remain the same.

8/21/2013 9:47:56 AM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
jodi123456
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I saw on the news the other day that soon, teachers do not have to mark a wrong answer wrong if the student can show how he/she came up with the answer. That don't make sense to me. 9x9 equals 10 is the example.
That answer can be marked a a correct answer.

8/21/2013 9:55:28 AM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

longbobby
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Quote from jodi123456:
I saw on the news the other day that soon, teachers do not have to mark a wrong answer wrong if the student can show how he/she came up with the answer. That don't make sense to me. 9x9 equals 10 is the example.
That answer can be marked a a correct answer.
==================================================

I used to tutor black adults for their GED exam. Most blacks intelligence stops at the level of an 8 year old white kid in the 3rd grade.

They can understand math up to the 3rd grade level; but it is incomprehensible to them after that.

It's amazing these people are allowed to vote, to drive and have automobiles and to own guns, isn't it?

8/21/2013 10:25:06 AM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

whays
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We need a national voting test.

8/21/2013 1:05:58 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

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Quote from whays:
Utter nonsense. To deny the genetic aspect of intelligence is to deny reality.
It is akin to establishing separate laws of nature for homo sapiens.


You're suffering from confirmation bias. Yes genetics has an effect on intelligence, but due to the relatively homogeneous genetic variety of humans as a species (an artifact of the Toba eruption around 70k years ago that nearly wiped out humankind shortly before the exodus out of Africa) the differences between groups on a hereditary level are miniscule in comparison to the impact that environment plays. For example, multiple nationalities and racial groups with low average test scores in their home countries and as first generation immigrants to the US show vast improvements in the second generation as long as they are given equal access to nutrition and education. The Irish for instance were the lowest testing group in Europe up until just a generation or two ago, whereas now they are near the top in Europe and people of Irish descent are also the highest testing racial group in the US.



[Edited 8/21/2013 1:06:16 PM ]

8/21/2013 3:46:11 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

whays
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Dreaming the impossible dream that we are genetically equal in intelligence.
By the same token who could deny the genetic factor in Black athletic* performance?
Or the tendency for certain types of ailments? Welfare system contributes to breeding
the worst elements.

*Suggest visiting "The Last Taboo", about athletics and genetics.
Studies now show Kenyan distance runners have advantage of more
and very effective cellular energy processing elements.

8/21/2013 3:54:59 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
61falcon
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Well I can tell you for a fact that the country receiving over 50% of the H1B visas for legal workers entering the USA next year will be people from India because they excel in science and math and we DON'T.Our US businesses are crying out for these immigrants because we are turning out idiots.

8/21/2013 5:34:14 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
61falcon
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With .02% of the worlds population and one fifth of the worlds Nobel prizes Ashkenazi Jews have proven they are probably the smartest ethnic group.

8/21/2013 5:47:40 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

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Quote from
With .02% of the worlds population and one fifth of the worlds Nobel prizes Ashkenazi Jews have proven they are probably the smartest ethnic group.
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LMAO...a JEWISH Committee giving away cracker jack prizes to the jew of the year. BFD !

Look who hasn't considered how THAT was in the days before jews invented Ecstasy and dumbed their minds down to the average of 95 that it is today.

Keep dreaming about the "glory days", Shmel.

Cause THOSE days are gone for good.

8/21/2013 5:53:25 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from
With .02% of the worlds population and one fifth of the worlds Nobel prizes Ashkenazi Jews have proven they are probably the smartest ethnic group.
============================================================

LMAO...a JEWISH Committee giving away cracker jack prizes to the jew of the year. BFD !

Look who hasn't considered how THAT was in the days before jews invented Ecstasy and dumbed their minds down to the average of 95 that it is today.

Keep dreaming about the "glory days", Shmel.

Cause THOSE days are gone for good.


Here's one of those braniac's...meet Hymie...Mr. Average Jew.


8/21/2013 5:59:31 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
61falcon
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Well if you were a results oriented person you would have to admit that actions and results outweigh bullshit.

8/21/2013 6:27:43 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

creepycawkasian
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Quote from hercules60:
And your point is, THE IRISH ARE WHITE!


Pardon me sir, but your bigot is showing.

8/21/2013 7:25:16 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

whays
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Quote from 61falcon:
With .02% of the worlds population and one fifth of the worlds Nobel prizes Ashkenazi Jews have proven they are probably the smartest ethnic group.


Do some research on the genetic bottlenecks that benefited those Ashkenaziks.
Plague, famine, pogroms. Mostly the richest Jews survived and bred. Try
googling "jewish double bottleneck genetics benefit". Should get you in
neighborhood.

8/21/2013 7:30:36 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  
61falcon
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The facts speak for themselves.

8/21/2013 7:53:35 PM IQ and Wealth of Nations  

longbobby
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Quote from
The facts speak for themselves.
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You wouldn't know what a fact was if it bit you in the ass...HERE's a "fact" for you...


Unfortunate creation of multi-generational Jewish incestual inbreeding ...