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2/15/2016 2:04:46 PM Potato  

voyager02
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1. take a potato
2. not take a potato


you are going to meet someone in a cabin in the woods, ppl are saying, you should take a potato with you or else he is going to kill you, so will you say this is the strangest thing i have ever heard and not take a potato or will you taking a potato with you?

is taking a potato with you too hard, that you risk your life?
same thing with believing, is believing too hard that you risk everything

strangest things happens even in this world and you shock, you say it is impossible, outside earth strangest thing happens, impossibles

no one can be sure about God existence
coz our best scientist cant tell whats even in 99 percent of universe
and our best science and scientist are nothing we all are nothing, comparing with universe

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2/15/2016 2:52:22 PM Potato  

asanb
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As long as you realize that Belief in itself isn't magic. It's an opinion that is a product of the mind. Until you stand in front of the man in the woods with or without a potato, it's all mental/emotional conjecture.

2/15/2016 2:58:45 PM Potato  

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Quote from voyager02:
you are going to meet someone in a cabin in the woods, ppl are saying, you should take a potato with you or else he is going to kill you, so will you say this is the strangest thing i have ever heard and not take a potato or will you taking a potato with you?

is taking a potato with you too hard, that you risk your life?
same thing with believing, is believing too hard that you risk everything


It depends on what you are being asked to believe.

On another thread here we are asked to believe in God because if we don't, God will punish us in Hell for all eternity, and so we should believe just to be on the safe side, so that doesn't happen us.

That's exactly like your potato thing, isn't it? Basically it's giving in to superstition and threats. What sort of a life to live is that?

strangest things happens even in this world and you shock, you say it is impossible, outside earth strangest thing happens, impossibles

no one can be sure about God existence
coz our best scientist cant tell whats even in 99 percent of universe
and our best science and scientist are nothing we all are nothing, comparing with universe


2/15/2016 4:00:33 PM Potato  

followjesusonly
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Quote from voyager02:
you are going to meet someone in a cabin in the woods, ppl are saying, you should take a potato with you or else he is going to kill you, so will you say this is the strangest thing i have ever heard and not take a potato or will you taking a potato with you?

is taking a potato with you too hard, that you risk your life?
same thing with believing, is believing too hard that you risk everything


If I knew and trusted that the person at the cabin loved me and that the idea that He would kill me if I didn't bring a potato had to be false and out of character, even blasphemous, then I would not take a potato. If I thought that He would kill me for not taking a potato then I would not go to the cabin at all.

Did someone snag you into Christianity using these devices?

Is Christianity the only religion on earth that threatens people with torture at the hands of God if they don't believe as the Christians do?

2/15/2016 6:53:52 PM Potato  

ludlowlowell
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Sounds like a good argument for God to me. Very similar to my own argument in my thread about fire insurance.

2/15/2016 6:56:15 PM Potato  

followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Sounds like a good argument for God to me. Very similar to my own argument in my thread about fire insurance.


It's exactly like your Satanic blasphemy against God, that He will torture His children who don't love Him. We call it child abuse, and you're saying that God is a child abuser.

2/15/2016 7:07:01 PM Potato  

ludlowlowell
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God does not send children to Hell, at least not any child younger than about age 7 (age 7 is considered in the Catholic Church to be the age of reason---some children a little younger, some a little older). At about age 7 human beings become able to reason properly, to think for themselves, to understand the difference between right and wrong, to take responsibility. The way I understand the Church's teaching a child younger than age 7 or so is incapable of committing a mortal sin because children younger than that probably are not able to be mindful of how seriously wrong a serious wrong is, and\or they are probably not able to give full consent of the will, two things necessary for something to be a mortal sin. I guess they could commit venial sin but not mortal sin.



[Edited 2/15/2016 7:08:53 PM ]

2/15/2016 7:53:46 PM Potato  

followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
God does not send children to Hell, at least not any child younger than about age 7 (age 7 is considered in the Catholic Church to be the age of reason---some children a little younger, some a little older). At about age 7 human beings become able to reason properly, to think for themselves, to understand the difference between right and wrong, to take responsibility. The way I understand the Church's teaching a child younger than age 7 or so is incapable of committing a mortal sin because children younger than that probably are not able to be mindful of how seriously wrong a serious wrong is, and\or they are probably not able to give full consent of the will, two things necessary for something to be a mortal sin. I guess they could commit venial sin but not mortal sin.


If God is "our Father," then we are all God's "children" and according to you and your blasphemy against God, God DOES send his children to Hell where He tortures them for not loving Him. And you also say:

"God... sends people to Hell who don't love Him back."

And Jesus says YOU don't love God:

"If a man love me, he will keep my words."(John 14:23)
"He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings." (John 14:24)

You're in a heap of spiritual reality trouble.

2/16/2016 3:07:27 AM Potato  

w6o6l6f_1
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I would bring a potato in the form of Vodka.

2/16/2016 10:31:30 AM Potato  

olderthandirt20
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Potato chips
Potato salad
Potato pancakes
Potato bread
Potato tots
Potato famine
Potato flakes
Potato buds
Potato & Onions
TURNIP
HELLO isa

2/16/2016 11:39:20 AM Potato  

voyager02
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Quote from olderthandirt20:
Potato chips
Potato salad
Potato pancakes
Potato bread
Potato tots
Potato famine
Potato flakes
Potato buds
Potato & Onions
TURNIP
HELLO isa

hi TURNIP

2/16/2016 11:40:11 AM Potato  

voyager02
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Sounds like a good argument for God to me. Very similar to my own argument in my thread about fire insurance.




2/16/2016 2:26:57 PM Potato  

followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Sounds like a good argument for God to me. Very similar to my own argument in my thread about fire insurance.


That's because you are slipping farther into unreality. In your un-reality, God the Father is a child abuser who tortures His children for not loving Him. Strangely enough, that's a fate that you say is going to happen to YOU, since Jesus says you don't love Him and since you say, "God ...sends people to Hell who don't love Him back."

Unreality is strange.

"It requires a great and noble character, having started out wrong, to turn about and go right. All too often one’s own mind tends to justify continuance in the path of error when once it is entered upon." -The Urantia Book

2/16/2016 5:12:17 PM Potato  
ron6280a
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The raw tater is not palatable. I would take a carrot in case i got hungry.

2/16/2016 6:52:04 PM Potato  

aphrodisianus
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Mr Potato god.



2/16/2016 10:52:19 PM Potato  

asanb
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I think that you should just bag it and let the chips fall where they may.

2/17/2016 7:58:37 AM Potato  

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We live in a universe where nothing is guaranteed , including belief .

Belief is really just,"beating the odds". Even when the odds are already in our favor , there will always be the remote possibility , that things can go horribly wrong . Not because a god is punishing people , but because life doesn't offer guarantees .

Belief serves an important function . It soothes , calms , and comforts . It gives us confidence , and makes us feel safe . It protects us from a mind that can harm , and even kill , a perfectly functioning body , with its psychological stresses , and fears .

If you use belief to create stress , and fear , "your going the wrong way".

2/17/2016 9:29:47 AM Potato  

voyager02
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i try to listen to everyone, if i listen to Atheist, there is a posiblity of afterlife, i might be in trouble, but if i listen to believers, i have nothing to lose if there is no afterlife i will lose nothing if there is an afterlife i will lose nothing, but believing an atheist there is possibility of losing everything



[Edited 2/17/2016 9:30:16 AM ]

2/17/2016 9:45:01 AM Potato  

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Quote from voyager02:
i try to listen to everyone, if i listen to Atheist, there is a posiblity of afterlife, i might be in trouble, but if i listen to believers, i have nothing to lose if there is no afterlife i will lose nothing if there is an afterlife i will lose nothing, but believing an atheist there is possibility of losing everything


We're here because of everything , we're not the hull , that floats the boat .

2/17/2016 9:53:04 AM Potato  

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If anything , we're the ice that turns everything upsidedown .

2/17/2016 7:39:35 PM Potato  

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Quote from voyager02:
i try to listen to everyone, if i listen to Atheist, there is a posiblity of afterlife, i might be in trouble, but if i listen to believers, i have nothing to lose if there is no afterlife i will lose nothing if there is an afterlife i will lose nothing, but believing an atheist there is possibility of losing everything


Good point, but it has nothing to do with bringing a potato in fear that if you don't, you will be killed. You want to believe in God because you love Him and you want to be with Him and you want to be perfect as He is, but not because He will kill you if you don't love Him. That's the wrong reason.

By the way, have you read The Urantia Book? The last 700 pages are the true and complete life and teachings of Jesus, from God's records.

This is the one to get:

                                

2/18/2016 3:23:04 AM Potato  

voyager02
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i didnt read it but i heard this books name many times

2/18/2016 7:58:37 AM Potato  

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Quote from voyager02:
i try to listen to everyone, if i listen to Atheist, there is a posiblity of afterlife, i might be in trouble, but if i listen to believers, i have nothing to lose if there is no afterlife i will lose nothing if there is an afterlife i will lose nothing, but believing an atheist there is possibility of losing everything


I'm not an atheist , I know that there's magic in the air . I just don't pretend to know , what cant be known .

All of my knowledge comes from physical objects , but even the densest objects are filled with empty space , that I cannot know , even though I know that its there .

2/18/2016 9:32:35 PM Potato  

voyager02
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Quote from nonstandard:
I'm not an atheist , I know that there's magic in the air . I just don't pretend to know , what cant be known .

All of my knowledge comes from physical objects , but even the densest objects are filled with empty space , that I cannot know , even though I know that its there .



so the ppl who dont know must be cautious and not risk everything, i dont know too, if i was 100 percent sure i would choose to not believing, but no human can be 100 percent sure coz i said earlier our knowledge outside earth is nothing and we our nothing comparing to universe

2/19/2016 9:07:05 AM Potato  

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The universe provides the stage , and it makes all of the rules .

2/20/2016 2:51:21 PM Potato  

nonstandard
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We don't always listen , we take insane advantages , from mundane , helpless life , to make ourselves look like kings . Its so damn easy , to kill everything that keeps us alive .