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3/25/2016 9:00:25 AM Easter Pagan origins  

asanb
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"according to Jacob Grimm’s Deutsche Mythologie, which he wrote after journeying across Germany and recording its oral mythological traditions, the idea of resurrection was part and parcel of celebrating the goddess Ostara:

“Ostara, Eástre seems therefore to have been the divinity of the radiant dawn, of upspringing light, a spectacle that brings joy and blessing, whose meaning could be easily adapted by the resurrection-day of the christian’s God. Bonfires were lighted at Easter and according to popular belief of long standing, the moment the sun rises on Easter Sunday morning, he gives three joyful leaps, he dances for joy … Water drawn on the Easter morning is, like that at Christmas, holy and healing … here also heathen notions seems to have grafted themselves on great christian festivals. Maidens clothed in white, who at Easter, at the season of returning spring, show themselves in clefts of the rock and on mountains, are suggestive of the ancient goddess.”

Spring is a sort of resurrection after all, with the land coming back to life after lying dead and bare during the winter months. To say that ancient peoples thought otherwise is foolish, naïve and downright uninformed. Many, many pagan celebrations centre around the return of light and the rebirth of the land; these ideas are not new themes in the slightest.

And yes, rabbits and eggs are fertility symbols, and they are, in fact, associated with Eostre."

http://bellejar.ca/2013/03/28/easter-is-not-named-after-ishtar-and-other-truths-i-have-to-tell-you/

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3/25/2016 9:22:21 AM Easter Pagan origins  
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The problem we have in this day and age is that we could, right now, invent a deity, and give it certain characteristics straight from our imagination, and it would turn out someone had that one before.

3/25/2016 9:29:44 AM Easter Pagan origins  

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Quote from asanb:
"according to Jacob Grimm’s Deutsche Mythologie, which he wrote after journeying across Germany and recording its oral mythological traditions, the idea of resurrection was part and parcel of celebrating the goddess Ostara:

“Ostara, Eástre seems therefore to have been the divinity of the radiant dawn, of upspringing light, a spectacle that brings joy and blessing, whose meaning could be easily adapted by the resurrection-day of the christian’s God. Bonfires were lighted at Easter and according to popular belief of long standing, the moment the sun rises on Easter Sunday morning, he gives three joyful leaps, he dances for joy … Water drawn on the Easter morning is, like that at Christmas, holy and healing … here also heathen notions seems to have grafted themselves on great christian festivals. Maidens clothed in white, who at Easter, at the season of returning spring, show themselves in clefts of the rock and on mountains, are suggestive of the ancient goddess.”

Spring is a sort of resurrection after all, with the land coming back to life after lying dead and bare during the winter months. To say that ancient peoples thought otherwise is foolish, naïve and downright uninformed. Many, many pagan celebrations centre around the return of light and the rebirth of the land; these ideas are not new themes in the slightest.

And yes, rabbits and eggs are fertility symbols, and they are, in fact, associated with Eostre."

http://bellejar.ca/2013/03/28/easter-is-not-named-after-ishtar-and-other-truths-i-have-to-tell-you/


Yes, this is how I celebrate resurrection, during the spring equinox.


Resurrection in the sense of the procession of the seasons.



[Edited 3/25/2016 9:30:46 AM ]

3/25/2016 10:15:22 AM Easter Pagan origins  

wayn49
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yes there are pagan traditions in Easter and it was substituted and replaced with the suffering and death and resurrection of Jesus

we use to as kids color eggs and find them and candy etc

i see nothing wrong in celebrating our Lord Jesus for what he has done

3/25/2016 10:20:31 AM Easter Pagan origins  

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It doesn't bother me one bit that Easter has pagan origins. It doesn't bother me one bit that the early Christians took a pagan holiday and Christianized it. Easter celebrates the Resurrection of Jesus. How could we NOT celebrate such a happy day?

3/25/2016 10:48:06 AM Easter Pagan origins  

isna_la_wica
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There are Pagan origins in every thing.

Before Christianity came about, well, our ancestors were Pagan in one way or another.So, what?

It bothers me not in the slightest.

I celebrate this day for what I believe, and it does not bother me at all what my ancestors celebrated or others today do.

Pretty sure we are not breaking any patent, copy write laws or stealing intellectual property.

3/25/2016 11:02:10 AM Easter Pagan origins  

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No isna, but some who are not pagan, actually deny the pagan origins

3/25/2016 11:27:32 AM Easter Pagan origins  

olderthandirt20
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Religions often steal/appropriate/borrow from earlier religions, it's the way they evolve.
The ideals of godship are limited afterall .

3/25/2016 11:50:18 AM Easter Pagan origins  

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Yes, and note how they evolve, it's really regression ,in my opinion.

3/25/2016 2:46:35 PM Easter Pagan origins  

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Rufftreasure, what part of Christianity do you find regressive? The part that calls for repentance?

3/25/2016 5:03:40 PM Easter Pagan origins  

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In every religion, there are those that are regressive and some who are more 'progressive'.

Its the same in every human endeavor of any sort. From politics, to choosing what we eat.

Its part of a personality trait I believe. Some see only black and white while others can paint a master piece with a hundred colours.

3/25/2016 8:05:36 PM Easter Pagan origins  

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Rufftreasure, what part of Christianity do you find regressive? The part that calls for repentance?


No ,the part about how Jesus began a movement based on loving the poor, the sick, the widowed the orphans, loving you neighbors as yourself. How this regressed into the institution it's become. Repentance you ask? If I see that I have harmed someone, I make direct amends, and ask forgiveness, or they ask forgiveness, and I forgive. This is the way you see repentance, practically applied. What good is it to ask forgiveness, from a God if you don't treat your brothers and sisters well? I have changed many things in my life, repented from harmful behaviors, and it wasn't because I was afraid of hell, it was because it's the right thing to do This is called taking personal responsibility for your own actions. None of it has anything to do with an action or inaction of any God. Everything we do comes from our own personal choices. We punish or reward ourselves with what ever repercussions come from that choice, whether good choices or bad.

3/25/2016 8:06:45 PM Easter Pagan origins  

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Quote from isna_la_wica:
In every religion, there are those that are regressive and some who are more 'progressive'.

Its the same in every human endeavor of any sort. From politics, to choosing what we eat.

Its part of a personality trait I believe. Some see only black and white while others can paint a master piece with a hundred colours.



Yes

3/25/2016 10:12:02 PM Easter Pagan origins  

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Happy (spring) vernal equinox.

The egg is a symbol of the Moon.
The rabbit is a symbol of fertility.

3/25/2016 10:15:36 PM Easter Pagan origins  

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Quote from w6o6l6f_1:
Happy (spring) vernal equinox.

The egg is a symbol of the Moon.
The rabbit is a symbol of fertility.


Oestra, for estrogen, Ostara the Goddess, and resurrection of the earth.

3/26/2016 10:47:51 AM Easter Pagan origins  

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Quote from wayn49:
yes there are pagan traditions in Easter and it was substituted and replaced with the suffering and death and resurrection of Jesus
Utter ignorance of history. Lots of man-god deaths were about resurrection. Jesus is a copied myth.


i see nothing wrong in celebrating our Lord Jesus for what he has done
That's because you're ignorant. Jesus implored self-hatred, no attraction towards woman, putting your family and friends last to serve him. He committed cruelty to animals, prone to irrational outbursts, megalomania, insulting bigotry, and insanity by cursing a tree.



[Edited 3/26/2016 10:48:05 AM ]

3/26/2016 11:40:18 AM Easter Pagan origins  

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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
That's because you're ignorant. Jesus implored self-hatred, no attraction towards woman, putting your family and friends last to serve him. He committed cruelty to animals, prone to irrational outbursts, megalomania, insulting bigotry, and insanity by cursing a tree.



sorry you feel that way but you got it all wrong

3/26/2016 8:59:30 PM Easter Pagan origins  

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Quote from wayn49:
sorry you feel that way but you got it all wrong


You're incapable of refuting the myth. The myth writers wrote the scriptures in Greek. Greeks were excellent story tellers. The figure Jesus displayed all the qualities I wrote above.

3/26/2016 9:53:03 PM Easter Pagan origins  

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But you are incapable of proving that it is a myth. For all you know, God might exist, and the Jesus story might be true in its entirety.

3/26/2016 10:07:19 PM Easter Pagan origins  

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Wishful thinking .

3/26/2016 11:34:06 PM Easter Pagan origins  

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
But you are incapable of proving that it is a myth. For all you know, God might exist, and the Jesus story might be true in its entirety.


Lud, everywhere you go you expose your lack of education and intelligence.