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1/6/2013 8:51:36 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  

allen281
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Quote from brother_icey:
"So if the BBC with the Discovery Channel has uncovered this new evidence, needless to say, we think everyone should know. And the way Blacks willfully accepted Jesus Christ when he was White, our White Christian brothers and sisters should equally accept Jesus Christ now that Whites have discovered that in fact, he was a Negro. The video is available through the Discovery Channel E7008, and it’s entitled, “Jesus: The Complete Story.” It runs for 2 hours and 36 minutes."


If you sit under a teaching no matter what is is, sooner or later you will
believe it but it doesn't always make it true just because someone says so.
You really ought to spend more time on something that matters.
Color of skin means nothing.

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1/7/2013 1:18:20 AM What did Jesus christ look like ?  
jim_a49
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Quote from brother_icey:
Except for the genitic fact that they are caucasion, a trait brought with from the middle east. They merged with the Kazars, and overpowered them with genitics.

"It is important to realize that in Old Testament times Egyptians were black, not Arab. Arabs first conquered Egypt when Moslems invaded Egypt shortly after the death of Mohammed."


It important to realize that you are using yout fantasy books for refference and not archeological,anthropological data.
You can keep rpeating the same lie all you want, it does not make it true.
I want to see the archeological evidence, for what you claim.

1/7/2013 1:30:22 AM What did Jesus christ look like ?  
jim_a49
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Quote from brother_icey:
Except for the genitic fact that they are caucasion, a trait brought with from the middle east. They merged with the Kazars, and overpowered them with genitics.

"It is important to realize that in Old Testament times Egyptians were black, not Arab. Arabs first conquered Egypt when Moslems invaded Egypt shortly after the death of Mohammed."


And it is equally important to realize that you are broad brushing Egypt, a huge country,
The southern, sub sahara people were black, while the northern were European, caucasion, arab, and mediterianian types.
At least that is what the archeology tells us, and goes back almost 5000 years.
we have the bodies, and the DNA.
and they are not Negroid, and I am curious where you get this evidence they are.

1/7/2013 1:36:21 AM What did Jesus christ look like ?  
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Sunrise, I know you mean well, but somehow you gotinvilved with Diop books, and the little I read from them, I saw they were very missleading.
As it stands the biblical and archeological evidence points an entirly different direction than what you are trying to present, and you need to come up with something that is a little more factual than missleading quotes from people who were not even there.

1/7/2013 12:49:10 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  
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"The skeletons and skulls of the Ancient Egyptians clearly reflect they were Negroid people with features very similar to those of modern Black Nubians and other people of the Upper Nile and of East Africa."

1/7/2013 12:56:39 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  

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"The skeletons and skulls of the Ancient Egyptians clearly reflect they were Negroid people with features very similar to those of modern Black Nubians and other people of the Upper Nile and of East Africa."


You use the word ( similar ) similar does not mean what you say is true because
we all have things that are similar but yet we are different.
Similar could also mean, half white and half black, as we all are mixed.

1/7/2013 1:02:45 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  
brother_icey
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"Arabs invaded Egypt in the 7th Century AD; Remember, Egypt wasn't invaded by Rome until 300 BC. The Bible dates 4000 BC.

Therefore, Arabs have no more connection to Ancient Egypt than Europeans have to Ancient America."

1/7/2013 1:08:24 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  

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Semitic origin

There is a consensus that the Semitic peoples originated from Arabian peninsula. It should be pointed out that these settlers were not Arabs or Arabic speakers. Early non Arab Semitic peoples from the Ancient Near East, such as the Arameans, Akkadians (Assyrians and Babylonians), Amorites, Israelites, Eblaites, Ugarites and Canaanites, built civilizations in Mesopotamia and the Levant; genetically, they often interlapped and mixed. Slowly, however, they lost their political domination of the Near East due to internal turmoil and attacks by non-Semitic peoples. Although the Semites eventually lost political control of Western Asia to the Persian Empire, the Aramaic language remained the lingua franca of Assyria, Mesopotamia and the Levant. Aramaic itself was replaced by Greek as Western Asia's prestige language following the conquest of Alexander III of Macedon, though it survives to this day among Assyrian (aka Chaldo-Assyrian) Christians and Mandeans in Iraq, northeast Syria, southeast Turkey and northwest Iran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_people#Semitic_origin


Arab family of Ramallah, early 1900s


1/7/2013 1:49:24 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  
brother_icey
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Semitic origin

There is a consensus that the Semitic peoples originated from Arabian peninsula.

Yeah, it might be that many Semitic (or, rather, Shemitic people, as being children of Shem) were located in such an area and/or what is commonly known today as the "Middle East."

It should be pointed out that these settlers were not Arabs or Arabic speakers. Early non Arab Semitic peoples from the Ancient Near East, such as the Arameans, Akkadians (Assyrians and Babylonians), Amorites, Israelites, Eblaites, Ugarites and Canaanites, built civilizations in Mesopotamia and the Levant; genetically, they often interlapped and mixed.

Hmm. Yes it is indeed true that many of those black nations such as the Amorites, Israelites, and Canaanites were in that area and built civilizations in Mesopotamia, etc. I am not sure about Arabs not being there since many understand that Arabs came from Ishmael, the child of Abraham who descended from the line of Shem.

Slowly, however, they lost their political domination of the Near East due to internal turmoil and attacks by non-Semitic peoples.

Yes, it is indeed true that over time, many of those originally black nations and civilizations were attacked and eventually "whitened-up" to have the so-called mixed-breed "Middle-Easterners" that people see today!

Although the Semites eventually lost political control of Western Asia to the Persian Empire, the Aramaic language remained the lingua franca of Assyria, Mesopotamia and the Levant. Aramaic itself was replaced by Greek as Western Asia's prestige language following the conquest of Alexander III of Macedon, though it survives to this day among Assyrian (aka Chaldo-Assyrian) Christians and Mandeans in Iraq, northeast Syria, southeast Turkey and northwest Iran.

1/7/2013 2:11:25 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  
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Quote from brother_icey:
"Arabs invaded Egypt in the 7th Century AD; Remember, Egypt wasn't invaded by Rome until 300 BC. The Bible dates 4000 BC.

Therefore, Arabs have no more connection to Ancient Egypt than Europeans have to Ancient America."


But europeans have a psysical connection to all around the med, for 5000 years.

1/7/2013 2:13:54 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  
jim_a49
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Quote from brother_icey:


"The skeletons and skulls of the Ancient Egyptians clearly reflect they were Negroid people with features very similar to those of modern Black Nubians and other people of the Upper Nile and of East Africa."


FAIL

sometines the jawbone can be used but it is not reliable,

and even isolated bones do not account for anything.

we want to see historical evidence for a mass of people, and not just a sentence you copied from Diop's book.

1/7/2013 2:15:37 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  

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Quote from jim_a49:
FAIL

sometines the jawbone can be used but it is not reliable,

and even isolated bones do not account for anything.

we want to see historical evidence for a mass of people, and not just a sentence you copied from Diop's book.


1/7/2013 2:16:33 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  
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But europeans have a psysical connection to all around the med, for 5000 years.


How could they if Egypt wasn't invaded by Rome until 300 B.C.?

1/7/2013 3:06:22 PM What did Jesus christ look like ?  
jim_a49
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Quote from brother_icey:

But europeans have a psysical connection to all around the med, for 5000 years.


How could they if Egypt wasn't invaded by Rome until 300 B.C.?


Psysical evidence left in the form of mummies, and other things. DNA, etc.
We have a good anthroploogical evidence of just who was there.
The med was a trade route, it was easier, and shorter to cross than go around, and was controled by European, and mixed race, med, arab types for almost 5000 years.