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8/19/2007 9:57:49 AM The Law is the Law  

queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 61


OK so you said spiritual organizations. But the other people are also trying to raise decent law abiding citizens. My opinion is that most people try to be the best that they can most of the time.

It just like when you pick out some certain people as trying to teach right than it sounds like you are saying the others are not. I think everyone, though there are a few exceptions, wants to raise successful humans, some do not know how.

As far as other peoples children that is a touchy situation. You can really cause a lot of problems for yourself by trying to teach other peoples children what you feel is right.

When it comes to schools that is not the place to teach religion and prayers where not in schools originally in this country. The dollars only had 'in god we trust' since the 1ate 1930s or early 1940s so too was not an original idea.

As far as Christmas and the other holidays and celebrating, for me that is tradition and therefore not a problem. But then again, nobody cares what I think.



[Edited 8/19/2007 10:14:38 AM]

8/19/2007 10:05:38 AM The Law is the Law  

swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!


I AM TALKING ABOUT THE "CHILDREN"WHOS PARENTS ARE NOT TEACHING THEM THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8/19/2007 10:30:30 AM The Law is the Law  

krupa1
Abilene, TX
age: 39


It is all good lovely ladies! Let's just appreciate the original post for what it is! Not feeling like verbal combat today......got some peaceful happy harmony going.....will send some on the wind to you both.........smiles to you girls.......

8/19/2007 2:47:15 PM The Law is the Law  

genuinedee
Crystal Lake, IL
age: 48


Yes, excellent post!!!

Can we send to our local newspapers for their 'Letter To The Editor' columns???

8/19/2007 3:23:59 PM The Law is the Law  

swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!


Queen...You may think you have fooled some...Half of what are "now" in your posts,werent there "before".Good job making yourself look good.I know what was there earlier and you werent "singing the same song".Perhaps you are getting an education in government,cause you learned pretty fast how to "cover your tracks".

8/19/2007 3:33:41 PM The Law is the Law  

queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 61


Up till this point I have not been angry but I am telling you now to lay off. You follow me every where I post and post right after me. You are the one judging and attacking all the time.

I wrote something then decided to add to it and when I went to post the edit you had posted right behind me. So how about keeping your mouth on you and quit using it to attack everything I say and make unsubstantiated accusations.

8/19/2007 3:52:06 PM The Law is the Law  

swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!


I posted at 8:20 and you edited above me at 9:45 then again I posted at 10:05 and you edited again above me at 10:14,thats the "only" reason they "appear" to be unsubstantiated! Otherwise I say it as I see it!

8/19/2007 5:11:27 PM The Law is the Law  

queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 61


I changed one letter on the first post at 10:48 and the second as I said you had not posted when I was doing the edit on it. I do not like being called a liar and I do not like being accused of things I did not do.

I gave up on trying to talk to you a long time ago but you still think everything I write has to do with you. Not so I am not interested in what you say or think and would appreciate you allowing me to be able to say something on here without having to defend myself from your attacks. I have a right to speech as much as you.

You say it as you see it right or wrong.



[Edited 8/19/2007 5:11:59 PM]

8/19/2007 5:25:33 PM The Law is the Law  

53lady
Jacksonville, FL
age: 53


Here's something for EVERYONE to ponder: By Andy Rooney

DID YOU KNOW?
As you walk up the steps to the building which houses the U.S. Supreme Court you can see near the top of the building a row of the world's law givers and each one is facing one in the middle who is facing forward with a full frontal view .. it is Moses and he is
holding the Ten Commandments!

DID YOU KNOW?
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.

DID YOU KNOW?
As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall, right above where the Supreme Court judges sit, a display of the Ten Commandments!

DID YOU KNOW?
There are Bible verses etched in stone all over the Federal Buildings
and Monuments in Washington, D.C.

DID YOU KNOW?
James Madison, the fourth president, known as 'The Father of Our
Constitution' made the following statement:
'We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the
capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and
all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain
ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.'

DID YOU KNOW?
Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country said:
'It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great
nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on
religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ'.

DID YOU KNOW?
Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher,
whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.

DID YOU KNOW?
Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the
established orthodox churches in the colonies.

DID YOU KNOW?
Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would overstep their authority
and instead of interpreting the law would begin making law, an
oligarchy: the rule of few over many.

DID YOU KNOW?
The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said:

'Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers.'

How, then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for
220 years in this country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?

Lets put it around the world and let the world see and remember what
this great country was built on.

Chamber, US House of Representatives

I was asked to send this on if I agreed or delete if I didn't. Now it
is your turn...
It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, it is very
hard to understand why there is such a mess about having the Ten
Commandments on display or 'In God We Trust' on our money and having
God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the other 14% to
Sit Down and SHUT UP!!!

If you agree, pass this on



[Edited 8/19/2007 5:29:32 PM]

8/19/2007 5:26:54 PM The Law is the Law  

swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!


Dee...what a wonderful idea you had about putting this in the newspaper.I have had 3 friends respond who will be trying to get it in their local papers!!!!! God Bless!

8/19/2007 5:46:33 PM The Law is the Law  

genuinedee
Crystal Lake, IL
age: 48


Thanks!

I just think it is high time we come out of our personal prayer corners and respectfully 'fight back' against all the injustice, the ever increasing public sexuality that gets shoved down our throats and those of innocent children as well as the increasing suppression of our public religous freedom and the increasing expulsion of the biblical religious moral foundation, under God, that has made this country of the United States in which we live, the greatest country of all.

8/19/2007 6:01:00 PM The Law is the Law  

swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!


53lady....I must have posted almost the same time as you cause i missed this.I will certainly pass it on!!! Thanks for taking the time to post it... Peace

8/19/2007 6:41:56 PM The Law is the Law  

53lady
Jacksonville, FL
age: 53


Amen, dee...AMEN!!!!!!

8/19/2007 7:51:43 PM The Law is the Law  

jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 53


Do you know why it is that you might not care about asking big questions in life about things you don't understand completely and are just content to live in a comfort zone of what you have been taught from your parents your education and society?

Do you know why it is that on any of your bills that you recieve in the mail or on your drivers license or on your SS card or on your birth certificate, that your name is spelled in all capital letters?

Do you know why it is that at the time of your birth they had your Mother who was under a very tramatic situation, be the one to sign your birth certificate, usurping the authority of the father as head of house?

Do you know why it is that it will be very difficult for you to actually leave the hospital with your very own new born baby if you refuse to sign the birth certificate?

Do you know why it is that when you signed the promissory note for your mortgage you just signed away all of your rights, title and interest in the property you thought you were buying and for anything else you purchased on a time program?

Do you know why it is that even if you payed off your mortgage after 30 years of work from your hard earned labor of blood sweat and tears that you don't actually own your property and for anything else you purchased you think you actually own after paying it off?

Do you know why it is that if you miss 3 payments on your mortgage they will foreclose on you when it was your very own credit or collateral that allowed the bank to do the deal in the first place?

Do you know why it is that if you asked the bank for your original promissory note that you signed at the time of your mortgage they cannot produce it?

Do you know why it is that when collectors or attorneys call you after 6 months of non payment on a credit card debt after it has been written off, that it is actually illegal and a felony for them to do so?

Do you know why it is that if you were summoned into court for anything and you actually go, you have no rights and the judge won't listen to you no matter what you have to say and he just looks right through you?

Do you know why it is that the minute you walk into a court building you just gave up all of your rights to whatever courtcase you went in there for?

Do you know why it is that if you hired an attorney they can't actually help you out of your situation and that their alliegence is to the corporate US and without your knowledge you signed a form with him saying so giving up all of your rights?

Do you know why it is that the Child Protective Services in your state can break into your house in the middle of the night if someone happens to make an arbitrary claim out of the blue against you that you might be abusing your kids, they will kidnap your children without a warrant and there is nothing you can do about it?

Do you know why it is that today, if you are carrying a thousand dollars in your pocket you can be arrested and detained indefinately and they don't have to give you a reason or tell you why?

Do you know why it is that when you got married and you had a child that the state is actually the father of the child?

Do you know why it is that on the news segments for all the radio and TV stations across the country you always get to hear them broadcasting who the latest killer is or who just got murdered and who to be on the look out for?

Do you know why it is that in the Katrina hurricane disaster the military was instructed to go door to door and confiscate everyones guns when people needed serious help under tremendous circumstances just trying to stay alive at that critical time?

Do you know why it is that the twin towers in NYC fell straight down so nice and neat like a perfect demolition job from one plane with some jet fuel that cannot burn at a temperature high enough to bring down a steal framed concrete building of that size?

Do you know why it is that you work your tail off all year long and for doing so for good behavior you are allowed a 1 week vacation?

Do you know why it is that all the major calamaties of our world like disasters, wars, etc. etc. you name it, have happened or taken place during the week and not on a weekend?

Do you know why it is that the different religions argue about their particular philosophy as being the way to God?

Do you know why it is that when you said the Pledge of Allegence growing up in school, " One Nation Under God ". That you were never suppose to know that 'you' were actually that "One Nation" spoken of?

Do you know why it is that you think you need to have verifiable proof for everything you hear that is unfamiliar and does not correspond to that which science has any hard evidence for that can be seen with the naked eye? ....ie. I can't see the oxygen in the air, but I know it's there.....



[Edited 8/19/2007 7:56:19 PM]

8/20/2007 4:49:09 AM The Law is the Law  

swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!


I can only speak for myself but... I "need" to have verifiable proof for most things that are unfamiliar to my naked eye,only when someone keeps telling me that Im brainwashed or blind because I dont see it that way.

For those who are here in "this" Religion forum to chat about Religion.......

Did you know that when I was Baptized in 1959 that my mother wasnt even there??? It was so important for a baby to be baptized in the name of God, that it was usually done ASAP and the mom hadnt fully recovered from giving birth,hence she wasnt part of the Sacrament of Baptism,just the dad and God Parents attended.


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