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7/25/2008 11:56:14 PM |
I think women are holding out |
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mjkittredge
Nashua, NH
age: 27
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I did an experiment once, on my space. I had my regular profile, and a bunch of pictures of myself on it. I consider myself an above average looking guy, nothing super special, nothing terrible. About a 7 on the 1 to 10 scale. My profile wasn't getting much attention. I believed that if I looked better, I would get much more friend requests and emails and comments.
SO, I searched the internet for pictures of attractive guys, and finally settled on one whom I considered very good looking, a 9 or 10 on the 1 to 10 scale. Copy/pasted a bunch of his pictures, made a fake profile. Wouldn't you know it, within a few days, I had 50 friends. After a week, over 100. And it just kept going and going. A lot of the really cute/hot girls too. They were all commenting, emailing, chatting with me, calling me on the phone, trying to set up get togethers. I finally let them all know about the experiment, and linked to my own profile. Surprisingly, some of them, despite the deception, still wanted to be my friend and talk to me. After passing the uber-attraction test, they got a taste of my personality and intellect, and liked it. If not for the pictures of hot guy, they never would have known though, and that is disheartening to me.
So it seems, to me, that a lot of girls (especially younger ones) are holding out for the really hot guy, and will go to great lengths once they find him. And that despite people constantly saying looks are everything, apparently, to start things off, they are everything. And if a guy can't start things off, what does it matter what his intellect or personality are like? He might as well have none, for what it's worth.
I know this is probably sounding a lot like those BBW threads we've all seen too much of. I think the difference here is, that guys who are decent looking, but not HOT, get passed up. There aren't enough 8s, 9s, 10s for every girl to have one. And I'd venture a guess that a lot of those elite guys are players & cheaters, because they have an eye popping amount of opportunities constantly, and only their willpower and morality to stop them from indulging. How good are you going to look compared to all the other girls these guys have dated, and all the girls they can date at any time they choose? They've also been having way more sex than other guys. They monopolize women.
Ladies, take a second look, at that group of guys in between hotties and uglies. You might really like what you find.
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7/25/2008 11:57:58 PM |
I think women are holding out |
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sumbeach777
Red Springs, NC
age: 45
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I did an experiment once, on my space. I had my regular profile, and a bunch of pictures of myself on it. I consider myself an above average looking guy, nothing super special, nothing terrible. About a 7 on the 1 to 10 scale. My profile wasn't getting much attention. I believed that if I looked better, I would get much more friend requests and emails and comments.
SO, I searched the internet for pictures of attractive guys, and finally settled on one whom I considered very good looking, a 9 or 10 on the 1 to 10 scale. Copy/pasted a bunch of his pictures, made a fake profile. Wouldn't you know it, within a few days, I had 50 friends. After a week, over 100. And it just kept going and going. A lot of the really cute/hot girls too. They were all commenting, emailing, chatting with me, calling me on the phone, trying to set up get togethers. I finally let them all know about the experiment, and linked to my own profile. Surprisingly, some of them, despite the deception, still wanted to be my friend and talk to me. After passing the uber-attraction test, they got a taste of my personality and intellect, and liked it. If not for the pictures of hot guy, they never would have known though, and that is disheartening to me.
So it seems, to me, that a lot of girls (especially younger ones) are holding out for the really hot guy, and will go to great lengths once they find him. And that despite people constantly saying looks are everything, apparently, to start things off, they are everything. And if a guy can't start things off, what does it matter what his intellect or personality are like? He might as well have none, for what it's worth.
I know this is probably sounding a lot like those BBW threads we've all seen too much of. I think the difference here is, that guys who are decent looking, but not HOT, get passed up. There aren't enough 8s, 9s, 10s for every girl to have one. And I'd venture a guess that a lot of those elite guys are players & cheaters, because they have an eye popping  amount of opportunities constantly, and only their willpower and morality to stop them from indulging. How good are you going to look compared to all the other girls these guys have dated, and all the girls they can date at any time they choose? They've also been having way more sex than other guys. They monopolize women.
Ladies, take a second look, at that group of guys in between hotties and uglies. You might really like what you find.
Cheater, now you go sit in the corner.....No pudding pop for you.....LOL
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7/26/2008 12:09:47 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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katiescarlett72
Arlington, TX
age: 35
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I know this is probably sounding a lot like those BBW threads we've all seen too much of. I think the difference here is, that guys who are decent looking, but not HOT, get passed up.
The difference here. Uh-huh. Let me see if I've got this straight.
If a girl is talking to a guy who is average looking, such as 7 out of 10, then she should overlook the fact that he's not a 9 or a 10 and take into account his personality and intellect in making their overall decision.
However, if a man is talking to a woman who is only a 4 out of 10 because she has extra weight on her, then they are perfectly justified in overlooking trivial things such as personality and intellect.
Just out of curiousity, what's the limit? 5/10, 6/10? At what point does a man or woman become "decent looking" enough that their personality should be taken into consideration?
Here's the similarity inherent in your "experiment" and the love/hate relationship that so many women have with their own curves: it's called lack of self esteem. If you see yourself as a ten in every respect, then you project that onto others and they see your values - ALL OF THEM - as well. If you only focus on one or two facets of yourself (looks only, intellect only) then those will be the things that people will notice most often, but they are not a complete enough package for the long term.
Jack Nicholson has been one of the most genuinely homely men ever to grace the silver screen, but he's always had beautiful women dripping off his arms. It's because he oozes sex appeal from every pore; HE believes he's sexy. I could name a dozen other examples, but you get the picture.
If you're having problems getting dates, I'd suggest taking up a hobby and doing things to make yourself more interesting to the girls you meet, rather than sitting home conducting experiments to figure out what's wrong with everyone else.
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7/26/2008 12:13:13 AM |
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semp
Valencia, CA
age: 53
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LMAO yep he was naughty but for a cause 
Good point you made and yes I do agree most will respond to a hot sexy photo of a guy or girl. But your not so bad looking, hang in there and maybe your test will work out for with the ones that are still talking with ya
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7/26/2008 12:26:56 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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klassyklown
Bakersfield, CA
age: 39
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mj, you are absolutely correct. Fortunately many times with age comes wisdom. But I guarantee, the women who were still your friends after the revelation were the ones worth keeping. Hot guys are eye candy more often than not nothing more and most real women know that.
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7/26/2008 12:31:25 AM |
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mjkittredge
Nashua, NH
age: 27
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LMAO yep he was naughty but for a cause
Good point you made and yes I do agree most will respond to a hot sexy photo of a guy or girl. But your not so bad looking, hang in there and maybe your test will work out for with the ones that are still talking with ya 
This was years ago. Not in touch with any of them anymore.
Katiescarlett: did you see Jack back when he was young & fit, like in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest? Far from ugly.
There isn't really a numerical cutoff point. I'm just saying, rather than holding out or chasing the top of the top, the elite, maybe check out some guys who are close but not quite GQ cover material. I'm not BBW, asking a person to overlook 100+ extra pounds and 20 chins.
[Edited 7/26/2008 12:36:07 AM]
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7/26/2008 1:01:05 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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whitechocolates
New South Wales
Australia
age: 50
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MJ....how right you are!!!
Good for you doing a test on that..lt is a fact that good looking people have the easier lives.lts survival of the fitest!!Law of nature etc.
l used to tell my daughters the world is their oyster!..(very attractive girls)
YET...theyve had the good looking guys,who used and abused...now theyre looking for someone stable and REAL...yet fun,intelligent,quirky.(Oldest daughter 23)
Then theres ME...l was always quiet a good looker.
Now lm 50...and it freaks me OUT that l am carrying more weight,and even though still pretty good for 50.My aim was to find a great man with the HEART and SOUL worth keeping!
Not by looks....but personality!!!.
So ld say that as youre wisdom catches up with maturity,Your needs in a partner change...you look beyond the skin.
l would avoid the pretty boys.They wouldnt be easy to hold onto unless HIS personality
was an added bonus to his looks.
Genetically the scientists have proven,that subconsciously we look for certain things in a persons face/body/eyes/mouth...because we are looking to BREED!!...strength,stature,skin color,muscle tone,his scent!!!!!Breath....Trust me,its real.
Looks are first!...stay at a party with "Mr Gorgous" who acts like an idiot, with the brain of a GNAT!...and you will be walking/driving home one of the girls 
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7/26/2008 1:12:44 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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mjkittredge
Nashua, NH
age: 27
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MJ....how right you are!!!
Good for you doing a test on that..lt is a fact that good looking people have the easier lives.lts survival of the fitest!!Law of nature etc.
l used to tell my daughters the world is their oyster!..(very attractive girls)
YET...theyve had the good looking guys,who used and abused...now theyre looking for someone stable and REAL...yet fun,intelligent,quirky.(Oldest daughter 23)
Then theres ME...l was always quiet a good looker.
Now lm 50...and it freaks me OUT that l am carrying more weight,and even though still pretty good for 50.My aim was to find a great man with the HEART and SOUL worth keeping!
Not by looks....but personality!!!.
So ld say that as youre wisdom catches up with maturity,Your needs in a partner change...you look beyond the skin.
l would avoid the pretty boys.They wouldnt be easy to hold onto unless HIS personality
was an added bonus to his looks.
Genetically the scientists have proven,that subconsciously we look for certain things in a persons face/body/eyes/mouth...because we are looking to BREED!!...strength,stature,skin color,muscle tone,his scent!!!!!Breath....Trust me,its real.
Looks are first!...stay at a party with "Mr Gorgous" who acts like an idiot, with the brain of a GNAT!...and you will be walking/driving home one of the girls  
Thanks for the reply
I don't know about the party scenario you mentioned at the end. I think the girls at that party would initially swarm the hot but dumb guy, then scatter once he showed his inner buffoon. I'd get to talk to some, and they'd like the conversation. But I bet the girls would think to themselves "I wish this Mike guy was really hot like buffoon boy..." and "I wish buffoon boy was smart & interesting like Mike here... *sigh*" They want the complete package. Maybe, just maybe, once I got talking back and forth with them, they'd find enough to like about my physically and give me an opportunity.
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7/26/2008 1:23:30 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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1st_breath
Saint Louis, MO
age: 50
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NOPE. If ya post false pix here, the natives will be angry.
No-one likes a liar.
I think that most of us know when someone places an imposter as themself.. I had a 360 friend a long while back that had every pic he could find of the same model. Funny how the years went by and Mad Max never aged..I know I did! The guy even staged his own Ghastly Auto crash and near death experience. All there letters poured in while Mad Max lies in a coma his Dear Brother kept track of the 360 page, thanking the "fans" "DAILY" for the support.
Personally, I spoke to Mad Max many times on the tele and he was so not the man he wanted all the girls to think he was.
Just be yourself and that's perfectly fine.
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7/26/2008 1:38:54 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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kenny_aust
Queensland
Australia
age: 65
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It's the old.. judging a person by looks trick..
I feel i should advise the younger ones on here that "looks are decieving'
For a good time,be it just a night out or a relationship, judging your partner on looks is a big mistake
Having a partner that you can converse with, laugh and have fun with is so much better than wearing a peice of human jewllery
Besides beauty being in the eyes of the beholder,the real beauty of a person lies within
Just think 'Would you still want to be with your partner if they had a disfigureing accident?' If the answer is no,then get out now as outer beauty dosen't last forever...inner beauty does
You gotta laugh at the tricky little devil that posted the fake file,but it does tell you a bit about human nature...lol
The ole' whatcha see is whatcha get' always has and always will be the way i wish to go
Cheers all 
Even you bullshit artists that try to be something that they aren't...
Kenny 
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7/26/2008 1:40:45 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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irparis39
New York, NY
age: 49
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LMAO yep he was naughty but for a cause
Good point you made and yes I do agree most will respond to a hot sexy photo of a guy or girl. But your not so bad looking, hang in there and maybe your test will work out for with the ones that are still talking with ya 
This was years ago. Not in touch with any of them anymore.
Katiescarlett: did you see Jack back when he was young & fit, like in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest? Far from ugly.
There isn't really a numerical cutoff point. I'm just saying, rather than holding out or chasing the top of the top, the elite, maybe check out some guys who are close but not quite GQ cover material. I'm not BBW, asking a person to overlook 100+ extra pounds and 20 chins.
I think its interesting that out of Katie's whole post you only pick out the whole JN scenario as to how good looking he was in One Flew...I for one have never thought him goodlooking and far from sexy. What I did think of him was high maintanence, he has gone through more women than Hufner and has always strike me as the dirty old man Hufner still is. Although I'll wager he's mellowed out in his old age, but his choice in beautiful women has not.
But what is really interesting is that like a typical man, you expect, no feel entitled to be accept for 7 that you are, but hey, the BBW with the dbl chin can kiss your flat arse...you may be a 7 but you're definitely define yourself as worth much more than a BBW. welcome to the BBW world where despite fantastic personalities, looks still are the first thing that is noticed.
When I was in college there was a guy in a wheelchair, averge in looks, certainly a 5/6 by most commercial standards. Two of the girls from one of my classes were chosen to go and take him class schedules, homework, help him around the apartment, bring cook meals etc. One was a beautiful blonde, popular etc and other dark hair, not as beautiful but she was cute, beautiful personality. The blonde who wasn't comfortable with guys in wheelchairs (or should I say less than perfect)treated him like crap, didn't want to be there and many a time would just drop food off, never heating it for him or putting in the fridge until the other girl would show up. The dark hair girl thought he was cute, intellegient, loving, kind and after a time, fell in love with him, but he would never give her the time of day, always waiting for the blonde to show up.
Since then I have observed guys especially at clubs/school (when i used to go clubbing and I'm back at school) and watch them do the same thing you did, the hot girls were brought drinks and the ones they teemed 5/6/7 were spoken to briefly, unless the girl indicated "I'll sleep with you", then the atittude would change. Although we would like to say these were young guys, I believe most older guys are just as one dimensional because from reading on here, alot of that hasn't change,its just become more sophisticated.
Paris
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7/26/2008 1:57:31 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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mjkittredge
Nashua, NH
age: 27
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LMAO yep he was naughty but for a cause
Good point you made and yes I do agree most will respond to a hot sexy photo of a guy or girl. But your not so bad looking, hang in there and maybe your test will work out for with the ones that are still talking with ya 
This was years ago. Not in touch with any of them anymore.
Katiescarlett: did you see Jack back when he was young & fit, like in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest? Far from ugly.
There isn't really a numerical cutoff point. I'm just saying, rather than holding out or chasing the top of the top, the elite, maybe check out some guys who are close but not quite GQ cover material. I'm not BBW, asking a person to overlook 100+ extra pounds and 20 chins.
I think its interesting that out of Katie's whole post you only pick out the whole JN scenario as to how good looking he was in One Flew...I for one have never thought him goodlooking and far from sexy. What I did think of him was high maintanence, he has gone through more women than Hufner and has always strike me as the dirty old man Hufner still is. Although I'll wager he's mellowed out in his old age, but his choice in beautiful women has not.
But what is really interesting is that like a typical man, you expect, no feel entitled to be accept for 7 that you are, but hey, the BBW with the dbl chin can kiss your flat arse...you may be a 7 but you're definitely define yourself as worth much more than a BBW.  welcome to the BBW world where despite fantastic personalities, looks still are the first thing that is noticed.
When I was in college there was a guy in a wheelchair, averge in looks, certainly a 5/6 by most commercial standards. Two of the girls from one of my classes were chosen to go and take him class schedules, homework, help him around the apartment, bring cook meals etc. One was a beautiful blonde, popular etc and other dark hair, not as beautiful but she was cute, beautiful personality. The blonde who wasn't comfortable with guys in wheelchairs (or should I say less than perfect)treated him like crap, didn't want to be there and many a time would just drop food off, never heating it for him or putting in the fridge until the other girl would show up. The dark hair girl thought he was cute, intellegient, loving, kind and after a time, fell in love with him, but he would never give her the time of day, always waiting for the blonde to show up.
Since then I have observed guys especially at clubs/school (when i used to go clubbing and I'm back at school) and watch them do the same thing you did, the hot girls were brought drinks and the ones they teemed 5/6/7 were spoken to briefly, unless the girl indicated "I'll sleep with you", then the atittude would change. Although we would like to say these were young guys, I believe most older guys are just as one dimensional because from reading on here, alot of that hasn't change,its just become more sophisticated.
Paris
Katies post was kind of negative towards me, so I dismissed most of it. I don't expect or feel entitled - I just want chances. BBWs can lose weight, my face is stuck the way it is pretty much.
That's really sad, about the guy in the wheelchair, not giving the brunette a chance, chasing after the beauty who wanted nothing to do with him. I'm sure lots of people, guys and girls, have been in situations like that, and some realized later, when it's too late, what they missed out on, and how they were a fool going for the better looking person.
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7/26/2008 4:08:40 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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whomper
Greenwood, IN
age: 64
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I did an experiment once, on my space. I had my regular profile, and a bunch of pictures of myself on it. I consider myself an above average looking guy, nothing super special, nothing terrible. About a 7 on the 1 to 10 scale. My profile wasn't getting much attention. I believed that if I looked better, I would get much more friend requests and emails and comments.
SO, I searched the internet for pictures of attractive guys, and finally settled on one whom I considered very good looking, a 9 or 10 on the 1 to 10 scale. Copy/pasted a bunch of his pictures, made a fake profile. Wouldn't you know it, within a few days, I had 50 friends. After a week, over 100. And it just kept going and going. A lot of the really cute/hot girls too. They were all commenting, emailing, chatting with me, calling me on the phone, trying to set up get togethers. I finally let them all know about the experiment, and linked to my own profile. Surprisingly, some of them, despite the deception, still wanted to be my friend and talk to me. After passing the uber-attraction test, they got a taste of my personality and intellect, and liked it. If not for the pictures of hot guy, they never would have known though, and that is disheartening to me.
So it seems, to me, that a lot of girls (especially younger ones) are holding out for the really hot guy, and will go to great lengths once they find him. And that despite people constantly saying looks are everything, apparently, to start things off, they are everything. And if a guy can't start things off, what does it matter what his intellect or personality are like? He might as well have none, for what it's worth.
I know this is probably sounding a lot like those BBW threads we've all seen too much of. I think the difference here is, that guys who are decent looking, but not HOT, get passed up. There aren't enough 8s, 9s, 10s for every girl to have one. And I'd venture a guess that a lot of those elite guys are players & cheaters, because they have an eye popping  amount of opportunities constantly, and only their willpower and morality to stop them from indulging. How good are you going to look compared to all the other girls these guys have dated, and all the girls they can date at any time they choose? They've also been having way more sex than other guys. They monopolize women.
Ladies, take a second look, at that group of guys in between hotties and uglies. You might really like what you find.
I totally agree with you! My son told me that you have to look cool or they won't date you. I asked a guy about his age and he said it was true. They are very superficial. However, I see very pretty, "hot" girls with "ordinary" looking guys every day. Some times what you preceive as reality is what you get, because you are sending out negative vibes. If you believe that these girls won't be attracted to you -- they won't be. Change your thinking -- and change your life.
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7/26/2008 5:05:01 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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rebel1957
Beckim Settlement, NB
age: 51
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mj, you are absolutely correct. Fortunately many times with age comes wisdom. But I guarantee, the women who were still your friends after the revelation were the ones worth keeping. Hot guys are eye candy more often than not nothing more and most real women know that.
I WANT TO BE EYECANDY !!!  
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7/26/2008 5:34:57 AM |
I think women are holding out |
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ge0ge0
Tallahassee, FL
age: 41 online now!
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It's not like women or men have a choice on who they are attracted to. Far from it. It's classic natural selection and perception deception just like in the animal kingdom. Just take a look in nature and see the mating rituals insects, birds, and four-legged furry critters partake in. And yes some species actually fool their mates into thinking they are the most strong and genetically sound to carry on their desirable traits.
That's all beauty is; a gimmick.
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