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wikdfury
Springfield, MO
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Slender Man is a mythical boogeyman created on a forum in 2009. The pictures thread challenged posters to Photoshop in images to appear to show supernatural entities.
The creator, Eric "Victor Surge" Knudsen, added a few lines of back story when posting the images which evolved and grew over the years.
On May 31, 2014 things took a deadly turn when two 12 year old girls stabbed their friend 19 times. When questioned about the attempted murder they claimed they were doing it in the name of Slender Man as the first step in becoming proxies for him.
Both girls are being charged as adults and facing 65 years in prison.
Do you think they should be charged as adults or treated as mentally ill?
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bigdinv
Houston, TX
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Video games aren't responsible for an individual's decisions.
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mylegsarecold
Green Bay, WI
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No, they should not be charged as adults because they are not adults.
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cawk_n_beanz
Houston, TX
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They tried to blame columbine on the game "doom"...I played the shit out of doom back then but never did any school shootings 
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tc_spurs
Little Rock, AR
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I blame spoons and forks for my weight gain.
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mylegsarecold
Green Bay, WI
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I blame spoons and forks for my weight gain.
You should of bought the stainless steel non edible ones.
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tc_spurs
Little Rock, AR
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You should of bought the stainless steel non edible ones.
Live and learn huh?
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plusminus
Seattle, WA
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No, they should not be charged as adults because they are not adults.
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wikdfury
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They aren't necessarily blaming the Slender Man myth. One of the girls stated they were trying to become proxies for Slender Man by offering the killing as an attempt to please him. After the killing they had planned to run away and live in his forest mansion.
I think at least one of the two girls is mentally ill to have this logic.
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wikdfury
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No, they should not be charged as adults because they are not adults.
But then are you comfortable with the idea of these two girls having a clean criminal record after they turn 18?
It's a tricky situation. What is the best course of action to take for these two girls? Will they kill again? Are they mentally ill, impressionable or sadistic?
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cawk_n_beanz
Houston, TX
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Parents fault, they should have let them play "Barbie Adventure" not Slender man.
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ttrockz55
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I have a 15 yr old who follows these things. She knows what the real world is. So did these girls. They need be charged as adults so they dont live in an institution, And end up eventually released back into society to do something like this again. This was obviously thought out, excuses and all.
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wikdfury
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Slender Man has inspired many media characters on TV and in some video games such as the popular Minecraft game for kids.
^^ Enderman
But they didn't learn about him that way. They learned about the myth via creepypasta.com
Slender Man is a story that was birthed on an online message board (Something Awful Forums) like this one in a thread about Photoshop which is what makes it intriguing to me.
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cawk_n_beanz
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I have a 15 yr old who follows these things. She knows what the real world is.
..nice Unicorn...
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jason_in_tx
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Quote From mylegsarecold:
No, they should not be charged as adults because they are not adults.
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Exactly. We have a throw away policy of kids in this country that needs to be stopped. You aren't unredeemable at 12.
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ttrockz55
Wickenburg, AZ
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..nice Unicorn...
why thank you, lol
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| 6/3/2014 8:21:23 AM |
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wikdfury
Springfield, MO
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I have a 15 yr old who follows these things. She knows what the real world is. So did these girls. They need be charged as adults so they dont live in an institution, And end up eventually released back into society to do something like this again. This was obviously thought out, excuses and all.
What is your child was mentally ill though? Would she still know fantasy from reality?
Also if you read from creepypasta.com where the girls claim they learned about Slender Man it attempts to build an entire historical background which could be very suggestive to a young girl with some loose wiring.
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mermaidinwaitin
Seattle, WA
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They should fry those brats, and charge their parents as well. Parents are liable for the crimes of the minor children if they in any way influenced/aided the illegal conduct. Where the hell were they while these two evil b*tches were plotting all of this? Are they so removed from their parenting that they had no clue what influence this character had on their kids?
This was premeditated attempted murder, and no way anyone can say that at the age of 12 they didn't know it was wrong. The two brats are probably just trying to scam the system using the stupid "the game made me do it" mentality.
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cawk_n_beanz
Houston, TX
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There is an infamous child killer in the UK...Mary Bell. As a child she killed two boys..strangling and mutilating the bodies when she was 11.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bell
She eventually go released in the 1980's and has been out of trouble since, got married, had a kid and also wrote a book about the abuse she suffered at the hands of her prostitute mother and her mothers clients.
The point, a child of 12 should not be tried as an adult because they are not adults, do not think as adults, do not view the world as adults, do not fully understand the implications of their actions as an adult would.
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mermaidinwaitin
Seattle, WA
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What is your child was mentally ill though? Would she still know fantasy from reality?
Also if you read from creepypasta.com where the girls claim they learned about Slender Man it attempts to build an entire historical background which could be very suggestive to a young girl with some loose wiring.
YOUR wiring is totally tweaked if you think there is ANY excuse or defense for this.
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ttrockz55
Wickenburg, AZ
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What is your child was mentally ill though? Would she still know fantasy from reality?
Also if you read from creepypasta.com where the girls claim they learned about Slender Man it attempts to build an entire historical background which could be very suggestive to a young girl with some loose wiring.
no, she's not. Nor are the kids I've met who read creepypasta. Maybe these girls aren't well, but they thought this out. Do you really see them completely rehabilitated? Let them come live in your neighborhood...or just live with you.
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cawk_n_beanz
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A child having a child's mind isn't being mentally ill...every child that believed in Santa, the tooth fairy, the Easter bunny, the bogey man... would therefore be mentally ill.
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wikdfury
Springfield, MO
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There is an infamous child killer in the UK...Mary Bell. As a child she killed two boys..strangling and mutilating the bodies when she was 11.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bell
She eventually go released in the 1980's and has been out of trouble since, got married, had a kid and also wrote a book about the abuse she suffered at the hands of her prostitute mother and her mothers clients.
The point, a child of 12 should not be tried as an adult because they are not adults, do not think as adults, do not view the world as adults, do not fully understand the implications of their actions as an adult would.
Ah yes, I'm familiar with Mary Bell. Nice reference
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wikdfury
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no, she's not. Nor are the kids I've met who read creepypasta. Maybe these girls aren't well, but they thought this out. Do you really see them completely rehabilitated? Let them come live in your neighborhood...or just live with you.
It isn't for me to say if they could be rehabilitated or not but I do think a 12 year old mind is not fully capable of adult reasoning regardless of other childrens abilities and strengths.
I also really question the mental state of two girls who want to run away and live in a forest mansion with a creepy pedo looking ghost. What would make a child want something like that for themselves?
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cawk_n_beanz
Houston, TX
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Those who think a 12yr old is responsible..think of it this way.
If you had a 12yr old daughter and she brought home and had consensual sex with a 30yr old...would you still think she is responsible for her actions?..or would you beat the f**k out of and press charges against the 30yr old?
Same reasoning applies to the 12yr olds responsibility level for a murder.
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tc_spurs
Little Rock, AR
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Those who think a 12yr old is responsible..think of it this way.
If you had a 12yr old daughter and she brought home and had consensual sex with a 30yr old...would you still think she is responsible for her actions?..or would you beat the f**k out of and press charges against the 30yr old?
Same reasoning applies to the 12yr olds responsibility level for a murder.
Great defense comparison!!
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| 6/3/2014 8:45:36 AM |
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wikdfury
Springfield, MO
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YOUR wiring is totally tweaked if you think there is ANY excuse or defense for this.
There's no reason to attack me. All opinions are welcome, mine, yours and everyone else. To me it's a difficult case when kids are involved and wondering what the appropriate action to take. It isn't really up to any of us what the court system decides but it's an interesting topic to discuss and share thoughts about.
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jason_in_tx
Bryan, TX
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I Think at age 12 it is insane to think a kid is completely done for as far as society goes. They deserve another chance.
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shovelheaddave
Waskom, TX
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The bottom line is that SOMEBODY needs to be held responsible for this,because their is a little girl who was DELIBERATELY assaulted and injured.
If the 12 year old girls are not responsible for this,the people who were responsible for the 12 year old girls should be accountable for the actions of their charges,the same way as somebody whose pit bull get out and mauls somebody is responsible for what their dog did.
It was the parents job to raise their children to NOT be a danger to society,and they did not do their job.
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ttrockz55
Wickenburg, AZ
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Those who think a 12yr old is responsible..think of it this way.
If you had a 12yr old daughter and she brought home and had consensual sex with a 30yr old...would you still think she is responsible for her actions?..or would you beat the f**k out of and press charges against the 30yr old?
Same reasoning applies to the 12yr olds responsibility level for a murder.
I have 3 daughters..been lucky with them...raised them with good morals, right and wrong...
but. I have a niece. In her 30s now..who at 13 was with a 30yr old, but hid it from her parents..and its since been determined that she has major mental problems. They tried to keep her on meds, help her over and over, she still goes back to bad behavior of all kinds, and says she likes the way she feels off meds and doing as she pleases...her siblings just don't get it, nor her parents...
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cawk_n_beanz
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The bottom line is that SOMEBODY needs to be held responsible for this,because their is a little girl who was DELIBERATELY assaulted and injured.
If the 12 year old girls are not responsible for this,the people who were responsible for the 12 year old girls should be accountable for the actions of their charges,the same way as somebody whose pit bull get out and mauls somebody is responsible for what their dog did.
It was the parents job to raise their children to NOT be a danger to society,and they did not do their job.
I'd be more comfortable with holding the parents responsible than the kids...12yr old girls shouldn't really be out in the woods by themselves anyway for their own saftey!
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cawk_n_beanz
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I have 3 daughters..been lucky with them...raised them with good morals, right and wrong...
but. I have a niece. In her 30s now..who at 13 was with a 30yr old, but hid it from her parents..and its since been determined that she has major mental problems. They tried to keep her on meds, help her over and over, she still goes back to bad behavior of all kinds, and says she likes the way she feels off meds and doing as she pleases...her siblings just don't get it, nor her parents...
Not sure I get the point you are trying to make...are you saying the 13yr old niece with mental problems was responsible for having a 30yr old boyfriend...or more reasonably was the 30yr old responsible for statutory rape...and the parents responsible for not keeping tabs on a mentally challenged 13yr old?
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ttrockz55
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I just don't think their action should be excused. Sure, blame the parents too. Especially if doing so makes others aware that they need be more conscious of their kids actions and thoughts...but really. What they did is in their heads...and none of us can say how that will affect them in the future
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cawk_n_beanz
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I just don't think their action should be excused. Sure, blame the parents too. Especially if doing so makes others aware that they need be more conscious of their kids actions and thoughts...but really. What they did is in their heads...and none of us can say how that will affect them in the future
Sure they shouldn't be excused, but the question is should they be tried/treated as adults...NO.
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ttrockz55
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I have 3 daughters..been lucky with them...raised them with good morals, right and wrong...
but. I have a niece. In her 30s now..who at 13 was with a 30yr old, but hid it from her parents..and its since been determined that she has major mental problems. They tried to keep her on meds, help her over and over, she still goes back to bad behavior of all kinds, and says she likes the way she feels off meds and doing as she pleases...her siblings just don't get it, nor her parents...
Not sure I get the point you are trying to make...are you saying the 13yr old niece with mental problems was responsible for having a 30yr old boyfriend...or more reasonably was the 30yr old responsible for statutory rape...and the parents responsible for not keeping tabs on a mentally challenged 13yr old?
sorry. I'm lost too.
saying that it was all wrong...but trying to change her years down the line has not worked. They've done what they were medically advised to do...
so, I just don't know if mental institution and "rehabilitation" is the way to go.
and ya, I'm way lost on it all now
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cawk_n_beanz
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Well I think you can agree the future of anyone is unknown...and you shouldn't be tried/convicted and locked up based on an unknown...it is known that legally and mentally a child isn't capable of making the right decisions all the time or thinking about consequences.
When dealing with such a situation you deal with what is at hand...not convict someone on what they "might" do in the future.
Personal example on a lesser scale, when I was a kid of 12 or 13..I stole a few times...I haven't done it as an adult and would never consider doing it as an adult. As a child I really didn't think about how a reputation/criminal history for stealing would affect my life and those I stole from...as an adult I do.
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zombietrouble7
Knoxville, TN
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I don't care what is done with them,as long as it doesn't include allowing them to be part of society.Put them in a cage and leave them there.
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ttrockz55
Wickenburg, AZ
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Treat each as an individual situation and evaluate...?
but cawk...when I was young, I didn't even think of doing anything "wrong" cuz I knew my dad would find out and beat my ass....and I am fine with that!
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wikdfury
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They may have lived by woods. The girls had planned a three day slumber party and on Saturday morning they went out to play hide and seek in the woods.
That is when they attacked the girl.
One girl stated that "the bad part of me wanted her to die but the good part of me wanted her to live."
The other girl stated, "it was weird that I didn't feel remorse"
The one with no remorse really scares me. They aren't naming names for the statements though. The other girl seems to have a better chance at rehabilitation and cognitive therapy.
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cawk_n_beanz
Houston, TX
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Treat each as an individual situation and evaluate...?
but cawk...when I was young, I didn't even think of doing anything "wrong" cuz I knew my dad would find out and beat my ass....
The a** beatings were never a deterrent for me...grounding was a greater punishment as I always wanted to be outside.
My dad even gave me the choice sometimes...an a** whooping or a grounding, I'd always take the a** whooping.
As you said, treat each as an individual case but with the foresight to understand a 12yr olds brain isn't fully developed..it actually doesn't stop growing till about aged 25!.
I think it's stupid kids of 16yrs are allowed to drive here in the US...which is supported in the accident figures for that age demographic...that right there tells you 16yr olds are not making smart decisions...so a 12yr old?...
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wikdfury
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Another interesting fact is that both girls packed back packs thinking that Slender Man would appear to them after the killing to take them to his forest mansion.
Seems he didn't show up.
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cawk_n_beanz
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4th_stall_wally
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I think this could be a landmark case- though its not the first time we've seen cases like this. But most of the time the attackers have not lived to be tried.
The key here, I think, is that the girls apparently had complete freedom to access the internet. And that creepypasta has no age restriction.
AFAIK, the victim hasn't died, though that could change. So I think they should be tried as adults PENDING a psych exam and depending upon the diagnosis. They probably won't get severe jail time but I think 8-10 years probation would be sufficient at least. Children like this need to be monitored. I'm not talking about controlling what they see and do, but just keeping an eye on them in case they revert back to the states that led to this.
I also think the parents are responsible, though prosecuting them would be tricky.
How to fix this situation?
My plan is this: Either required drivers license # on all age-restricted websites, or distribute ID # to all citizens for the same use. And prosecute adults who allow their # to be used by minors, or allowing minors to view content that's not appropriate for their age. In addition, they need to start age-restricting many more sites online. I'm not talking about 18+...there needs to be much more comprehensive restrictions, so that a child up to 8 can only go to certain sites, then gradually relax restrictions up to 18. So a 8 year old can only view educational sites or ebooks, and 8-12 includes shopping sites (Amazon), and so on.
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wikdfury
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I think it's important that each girl is tried separately also. I keep looking for more information on the background of each girl and who made what statement after the attack but not much is being released to help see each of the two separately.
One source says that Morgan Geyser (long haired girl) was the one who originally came up with the plan but that Anissa Weier (short haired girl) is the one who is more internet savvy.
Anissa does seem to be more active online and I found her vine account and YouTube account where she must have lied about her age to join. Morgan doesn't seem to be active online from what I have discovered.
The source indicated that Anissa was the one to show Morgan the website known as creepypasta where they found the legend of Slender Man and became infatuated.
I'm still very curious about these girls backgrounds and would be interested to know the evaluations of each girl individually.
Restricting online activity can be so hard. It is the new norm to be online with some kind of profile to network with friends. Options are available for parental accounts on some sites but many sites are still lacking that support for parents.
You have to know what your child is looking at though. Setting up user accounts with parental settings on computers is a must. Knowing what sites your child has profile on is a must. And having a healthy relationship with your child so they talk to you about their interests is a must.
There is no prefect prevention or solution to this situation though. And then we are left with the hard choices of what to do now.
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wikdfury
Springfield, MO
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My plan is this: Either required drivers license # on all age-restricted websites, or distribute ID # to all citizens for the same use. And prosecute adults who allow their # to be used by minors, or allowing minors to view content that's not appropriate for their age. In addition, they need to start age-restricting many more sites online. I'm not talking about 18+...there needs to be much more comprehensive restrictions, so that a child up to 8 can only go to certain sites, then gradually relax restrictions up to 18. So a 8 year old can only view educational sites or ebooks, and 8-12 includes shopping sites (Amazon), and so on.
This could be something that ISP providers could assist with when registering new customers for service. Not everyone pays for an internet subscription though. Often sites use credit cards verification like playstation network but that would deter some people who don't use banks.
Parents need to be more active with their kids online activity. My cousin has a girl who is less than 13 and she made an account for her daughter on the playstation network. To do so she had to first make an account for herself, verify it with a credit card and then create a sub account for her daughter. This way playstation verified that the minor had parental consent to be online and they provide a dashboard for her to view her Childs activity and limit things like chat, ratings and access to the network store.
More sites need to offer this to parents such as Amazon (now that they have kindle) and YouTube. And parents need to take the time to set up these accounts.
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tc_spurs
Little Rock, AR
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So now I've gotta stop photoshopping the tall dude into my family photos?
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cawk_n_beanz
Houston, TX
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So now I've gotta stop photoshopping the tall dude into my family photos?
Nah it's still ok to include me in them.
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winterrain222
Stinnett, KY
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I know the story of the slender man. Their is another one called Jeff the Killer who is also equally famous.
As for those 2 kids. It's hard to say. I think they are both mentally ill to have done these things and most likely do need some serious help.
I can see both sides of this. I would not want these kids out among the public without some serious testing and observations done to make sure they are safe.
If I was the parents of the victims however I would indeed want them tried as adults.
I mean the child they stabbed was supposed to be their friend. Both girls look sick in the head. I mean look at the pics. I don't think whatever is wrong with them is going to be going away anytime soon.
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wikdfury
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Both girls look sick in the head. I mean look at the pics. I don't think whatever is wrong with them is going to be going away anytime soon.
Here's more pictures of Morgan Geyser
She actually looks really normal and happy which is surreal.
After further reading She is the girl that said, "It was weird that I didn't feel remorse." and when asked what her intent was she said, "I may as well just say it: Kill her." and she also said what she did was "probably wrong"...
Here is Anissa Weier on Vine where you can find a few short videos that she posted. Her YouTube video uploads have been removed. She posted a video a few days ago of her signing but the link no longer works. She is more active online but I'm not able to find as many photos of her.
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winterrain222
Stinnett, KY
41, joined Sep. 2013
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If they didn't feel any sort of remorse then I say yes they should be tried as adults. That changes things a great deal, and yea they kind of look normal. That's whats so scary about psychopaths and sociopaths. They are perfectly normal seeming .
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| 6/3/2014 2:27:35 PM |
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wikdfury
Springfield, MO
21, joined Nov. 2013
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If they didn't feel any sort of remorse then I say yes they should be tried as adults. That changes things a great deal, and yea they kind of look normal. That's whats so scary about psychopaths and sociopaths. They are perfectly normal seeming .
I think we should look carefully at each one as individuals because I have read a lot into this and watched a lot of video clips and read the statements made by the girls and looked up all online profiles and information available.
Morgan is a sick girl who needs help but may not ever be rehabilitated. Anissa seems to be genuinely remorseful and I think with some help could have a bright future. I would lock up Morgan and throw away the key in a mental hospital but I would sentence Anissa as a juvenile and let her out at 25 with parole.
Right now all they are talking about is either lock them up for 60-65 years as adults or sentence them as juveniles and they would serve 10-15 years.
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| 6/3/2014 2:32:20 PM |
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
70, joined Nov. 2008
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"" Do you think they should be charged as adults or treated as mentally ill? ""
Charged As Adults... They were hoping to murder their Ex friend and they are both definitely Evil and loved their EVILNESS to the extent of carrying it out with real action...
The are defiantly GUILTY of attempted murder... 
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| 6/3/2014 2:34:03 PM |
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jason_in_tx
Bryan, TX
31, joined Apr. 2013
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I think we have to draw the line somewhere when it comes to how we treat adults vs how we treat minors. I guess the hard truth is even if you are extremely young you still may be a lost cause at the end of the day. But I think society should do everything possible first before they give up and throw then away.
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| 6/3/2014 2:51:26 PM |
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wikdfury
Springfield, MO
21, joined Nov. 2013
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I think we have to draw the line somewhere when it comes to how we treat adults vs how we treat minors. I guess the hard truth is even if you are extremely young you still may be a lost cause at the end of the day. But I think society should do everything possible first before they give up and throw then away.
I agree, they really have to look closely at this case and they need to look at both kids individually and what their backgrounds and home life was like. I think they both need some evaluations and they need to be split up and not grouped together in the jail because they are a toxic combination.
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| 6/3/2014 3:02:38 PM |
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mylegsarecold
Green Bay, WI
52, joined May. 2011
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If they didn't feel any sort of remorse then I say yes they should be tried as adults. That changes things a great deal, and yea they kind of look normal. That's whats so scary about psychopaths and sociopaths. They are perfectly normal seeming .
But how can you consider whether they are remorseful for their actions when our
judicial system presumes the accused are innocent?
They haven't been convicted of anything yet, so whether they were remorseful or not
can't really be used to determine whether they should be tried as an adult.
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| 6/3/2014 3:10:26 PM |
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wikdfury
Springfield, MO
21, joined Nov. 2013
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But how can you consider whether they are remorseful for their actions when our
judicial system presumes the accused are innocent?
They haven't been convicted of anything yet, so whether they were remorseful or not
can't really be used to determine whether they should be tried as an adult.
They are not pursued innocent, they have confessed. It's now a matter of whether there is mental illness factor and if they should be considered for adult court or juvenile because the sentencing will be very different depending.
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| 6/3/2014 3:10:45 PM |
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orz
Portage, WI
65, joined Jul. 2010
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Part of the problem with adult or not is that too many kids know that. So they taunt the cops..ha ha cant do anything to me cause I am a kid. When you get around the world, you find 12 year old soldiers in Africa. 12 years old kids in India taking care of sibs when all are orphaned and working. We have history of even younger children aware of things and doing stuff adults wouldnt to save a family member. Or do mischief. We have to get over the idea that kids are allowed to be irresponsible til 40!!! There are kids who do know better and do it just to do it or see if they can get away with it. Or to be cool. Getting hooked by an older man into a relationship is not the same thing. Think Bonny and Clyde type women. There are killers in this country who have no interest in changing their attitude. They enjoy killing. Let them out in30 years and they kill again. This is going to be a hard case. Treat the kids individually for sure. As far as mental goes, adults have have delusions..my invisible friend told me to do it. And they never get better. I think it is time we stop coddling kids and show them they CANT get away with stuff due to age. At 12 I roamed the farm, had a key to let myself in the house if parents hadnt gotten home from shopping. I was helping run the livestock. I took dads .22 hunting alone with a list of rules I followed. Farm boys drove tractors and did men's work. Perhaps it is their parents fault. But, the girls did the killing. And to stab that many times...oh yeah..they are normal.
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| 6/3/2014 3:39:49 PM |
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mylegsarecold
Green Bay, WI
52, joined May. 2011
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They are not pursued innocent, they have confessed. It's now a matter of whether there is mental illness factor and if they should be considered for adult court or juvenile because the sentencing will be very different depending.
They have not been found guilty, they have only been charged with the crimes.
By law, they are still presumed innocent.
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By The Associated Press
on June 02, 2014 at 6:58 PM, updated June 02, 2014 at 7:07 PM
WAUKESHA, Wis. -- Two 12-year-old southeastern Wisconsin girls stabbed their 12-year-old friend nearly to death in the woods to please a mythological creature they learned about online, prosecutors say.
Both girls were charged as adults with first-degree attempted homicide Monday in Waukesha County Circuit Court; they each face up to 60 years in prison if convicted. A court commissioner set bail at $500,000 cash per child. According to a criminal complaint, the girls had been planning to kill their friend for months and finally made the attempt in a park on Saturday morning, after a slumber party.
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| 6/3/2014 4:26:35 PM |
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winterrain222
Stinnett, KY
41, joined Sep. 2013
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I think we should look carefully at each one as individuals because I have read a lot into this and watched a lot of video clips and read the statements made by the girls and looked up all online profiles and information available.
Morgan is a sick girl who needs help but may not ever be rehabilitated. Anissa seems to be genuinely remorseful and I think with some help could have a bright future. I would lock up Morgan and throw away the key in a mental hospital but I would sentence Anissa as a juvenile and let her out at 25 with parole.
Right now all they are talking about is either lock them up for 60-65 years as adults or sentence them as juveniles and they would serve 10-15 years.
From what you have said in this statement sounds right to me. If one showed remorse and the other one did not and one seems to be redeemable then so be it. However before either one of them saw the light of day again I would make sure they past every study, every psychological test possible that can be given to them. 
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