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cntxman
Brownwood, TX
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If you'll respect my right to protect myself...
I'll respect your right to be a victim!!!
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darthcapital
North York, ON
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Meaning?
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cntxman
Brownwood, TX
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These leftist that want to do nothing but have a gun grab and say we have no rights to own guns as protection... I'm saying if you'll respect my right to own and bear arms to protect myself, my home, my family... Then I'll support your right to be unarmed, un protected and become a victim!
Seemed pretty clear to me!!
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manniblelector
Vancouver, WA
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Meaning?
How could you not get the meaning? It's as plain as day.
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darthcapital
North York, ON
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Im saying that doesn't make sense?
Nobody wants to be a victim,but lots wants to right to defend themselves.
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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These leftist that want to do nothing but have a gun grab and say we have no rights to own guns as protection... I'm saying if you'll respect my right to own and bear arms to protect myself, my home, my family... Then I'll support your right to be unarmed, un protected and become a victim!
Seemed pretty clear to me!!
Misrepresenting the anti gun argument shows you offer nothing logical. Your response to your misrepresented leftist argument shows it's not an accident the first lacks logic.
I'm against any type of gun regulations including the ones already on the books. Any type of requirement including but not limited to age and identity are violations of my rights. Whether I exercise the right regularly or not.
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cntxman
Brownwood, TX
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No shit???
But if your shit all stupid to think if you take all guns away from law biding citizens then crime will stop then you are setting yourself up to be a victim!!!
I choose not to be a victim so stay out of my rights not to be and I'll stay out of your rights to be!!!
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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No shit???
But if your shit all stupid to think if you take all guns away from law biding citizens then crime will stop then you are setting yourself up to be a victim!!!
I choose not to be a victim so stay out of my rights not to be and I'll stay out of your rights to be!!!
Now it's take away all of the guns ? 
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| 11/17/2014 2:32:54 PM |
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cntxman
Brownwood, TX
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Dude if you don't think the left would love to have every gun taken out if public hands then your either ignorant or part of it!!!
As with the Overton Window, they will start off slow saying you can't own this caliber, this particular round, this magazine capacity, oh well now you can't have one that's not single bolt action, well now it can't have optics because we know optics are for distance, pretty soon they will have you down to a single action slingshot!!!
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| 11/17/2014 2:33:11 PM |
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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I'm 42 years old and I've never been in a situation that could have been changed had I been in position of my pistol. The only crime I've ever had committed against me was burglary theft while I was out of town.
Is it my personal choices or geographical location that has kept me from feelings intimidated or fearful of my own safety that I'm not worried about being a victim ?
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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Dude if you don't think the left would love to have every gun taken out if public hands then your either ignorant or part of it!!!
As with the Overton Window, they will start off slow saying you can't own this caliber, this particular round, this magazine capacity, oh well now you can't have one that's not single bolt action, well now it can't have optics because we know optics are for distance, pretty soon they will have you down to a single action slingshot!!!
You are using the most extreme examples which are based on the lowest number of people trying to suggest all people seeking restrictions fit into your little anti story. This pretty much shows you lack the competence to defend anyone's rights including your own.
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| 11/17/2014 2:41:25 PM |
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cntxman
Brownwood, TX
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Crime can happen in any geographical location!!! My dad was accosted by two bikers at knife point in the middle of nowhere on a dirt county road and was going to be murdered. But my dads military training kicked in and he is alive today because of it. Yes he did it without a weapon but so many cannot defend themselves in that way.
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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Surprise. A person story that includes a gun being a factor. Strange I've yet to meet anyone like that in all of my travels. Never a shortage of stories just a shortage of people they actually happen to.
I know Vet's that want nothing to do with firearms and some have problems with simple things like police officers to close to them. Not every opinion or issue is base on the anti crap you've been spoon fed and try to feed to others.
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ron6280a
Detroit, MI
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Gun control....
is steady hands and a well placed shot.
I'm all for gun control.
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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Gun control....
is steady hands and a well placed shot.
I'm all for gun control.
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jrbogie1949
Ventura, CA
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No shit???
But if your shit all stupid to think if you take all guns away from law biding citizens then crime will stop then you are setting yourself up to be a victim!!!
I choose not to be a victim so stay out of my rights not to be and I'll stay out of your rights to be!!!
when was the last time somebody tried to take your guns?
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cntxman
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It's well documented that many times people being armed has diffused the situation or has kept it from becoming a lot worse.
My dads story is very well documented. It was on national news as well. But his isn't the only story. Just because you know of no one doesn't mean it doesn't happen often!!
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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It's well documented that many times people being armed has diffuses the situation or has kept it from becoming a lot worse.
My dads story is very well documented. It was on national news as well. But his isn't the only story. Just because you know of no one doesn't mean it doesn't happen often!!
Use the most extreme and rare cases for their argument and your own. Shit happens and has happened since the beginning of time. The only thing that changes through the years are the details.
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cntxman
Brownwood, TX
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when was the last time somebody tried to take your guns?
They haven't!! Yet!! But your gullible if you think it's not a future plan!!!
Well I will back off a little bit. Not here in Texas it won't happen! Hell we are going to be open carry hopefully soon!
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hardtwist
Surprise, NE
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when was the last time somebody tried to take your guns?
Sept 2003. My x's lawyer was show boating and entered a motion to have my firearms impounded for the duration of divorce proceedings. I had an FFL at that time.
Fortunately my lawyer knew her lawyers game plan. I had all of my firearms stored in his vault, 2 weeks before he tried to have mine confiscated by the court. We had signed reciets, for when my lawyer took possession of my firearms.
From what I've seen, when law enforcement takes away firearms you never see them again
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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They haven't!! Yet!! But your gullible if you think it's not a future plan!!!
Well I will back off a little bit. Not here in Texas it won't happen! Hell we are going to be open carry hopefully soon!
You don't get it.
You are the rights far right version of the leftists far left extremists. So much so you are cheering a state passing a law to allow you to exercise rights you already have in a gun control thread.
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darthcapital
North York, ON
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This is what I don't understand with the left that wants to eliminate guns .
The left wants to eliminate all guns from law abiding citizens but says nothing about what are they going to do to solve the problems with criminals with the guns?
I can walk through a town with someone openly carrying a gun and not worry about them , its the criminal element I fear, the car jackers, the bank robbers and those who are violent and non law abiding is the one that gives me nightmares.
The last time I was in new york city, I heard shots not too far from me and everyone was ducking for cover, new york has one of the toughest gun laws yet gun violence still exists.
So again I ask the left, what are you going to do about the criminal element with the guns?
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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This is what I don't understand with the left that wants to eliminate guns .
The left wants to eliminate all guns from law abiding citizens but says nothing about what are they going to do to solve the problems with criminals with the guns?
I can walk through a town with someone openly carrying a gun and not worry about them , its the criminal element I fear, the car jackers, the bank robbers and those who are violent and non law abiding is the one that gives me nightmares.
The last time I was in new york city, I heard shots not too far from me and everyone was ducking for cover, new york has one of the toughest gun laws yet gun violence still exists.
So again I ask the left, what are you going to do about the criminal element with the guns?
Bullshit question based on a bullshit strawman.
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| 11/17/2014 3:43:04 PM |
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darthcapital
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bullshit how?
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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I've already covered this read the thread. You are the same as the op the rights version of the lefty extremist.
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cntxman
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Pop - do you own guns?
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darthcapital
North York, ON
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Ive read the thread , where is the strawman in my post?
Im not anti gun nor am I pro gun, I respect people's choice.
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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Pop - do you own guns?
Read your own thread. Already stated my position and ownership status.
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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Ive read the thread , where is the strawman in my post?
Im not anti gun nor am I pro gun, I respect people's choice.
Really ? After you create a made to fail argument for the left you mock them. Not sure what you consider to be respect but it falls short of anything I've ever known.
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darthcapital
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Oh I see you're just being invidious
Good one.
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markjetson
Albuquerque, NM
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Surprise. A person story that includes a gun being a factor. Strange I've yet to meet anyone like that in all of my travels. Never a shortage of stories just a shortage of people they actually happen to.
I know Vet's that want nothing to do with firearms and some have problems with simple things like police officers to close to them. Not every opinion or issue is base on the anti crap you've been spoon fed and try to feed to others.
Those vets were pussies, you want some firsthand "gun stories" I got a really good one for you. What? you say. F u I would'nt piss on you, if your signifigant other started you on fire, let alone tell you about some some personal events. Want to live with gun control, move to N. Korea, Cuba, or Mexico for that matter, see how that works out for you
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popado2
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No. You're like the op. You have to create your own failed argument because without it your post makes no sense at all.
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cntxman
Brownwood, TX
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Ok - so say when they pass legislation saying (assuming) it has a clip that your pistol has to be a revolver and nothing over a .22, will you then keep saying they are not trying to take it away or are you going to sit back until they come back and say you can't own anything more than a flint lock. They won't make the grab all at once! They will gradually shut the window on your ability to own! I own everything from .22, ,380, 44 SuperMag, 22-250, 223, 243, 25-06, 30-30, 30-06, 308, 12 and 20 gauge shotguns. I have two AR15 I use merely for Predator/Varmint hunting. You don't think they are trying to legislate that out??
Try buying Ammo!!
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popado2
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Those vets were pussies, you want some firsthand "gun stories" I got a really good one for you. What? you say. F u I would'nt piss on you, if your signifigant other started you on fire, let alone tell you about some some personal events. Want to live with gun control, move to N. Korea, Cuba, or Mexico for that matter, see how that works out for you
Calm down cupcake and try not to add your ignorance to my posts. Just read what's there and take it for what it is. If anything confuses you just ask and I will try to simplify it for you.
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| 11/17/2014 4:13:42 PM |
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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Ok - so say when they pass legislation saying (assuming) it has a clip that your pistol has to be a revolver and nothing over a .22, will you then keep saying they are not trying to take it away or are you going to sit back until they come back and say you can't own anything more than a flint lock. They won't make the grab all at once! They will gradually shut the window on your ability to own! I own everything from .22, ,380, 44 SuperMag, 22-250, 223, 243 20-06, 30-30, 30-06, 308, 12 and 20 gauge shotguns. I have two AR15 I use merely for Predator/Varmint hunting. You don't think they are trying to legislate that out??
Try buying Ammo!!
That's not just a bullshit question it's a childish Alex Jones type question.
And what part of my position of ANY AND ALL laws restrict my right are you having a problem understanding ?
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| 11/17/2014 4:18:00 PM |
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cntxman
Brownwood, TX
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It's not a bullshit question!!! They are already stating a clip capacity, ban on assault rifles! It's that foot in the door that will ultimately lead the way to complete fun control!
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markjetson
Albuquerque, NM
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Calm down cupcake and try not to add your ignorance to my posts. Just read what's there and take it for what it is. If anything confuses you just ask and I will try to simplify it for you.
you calm down you puny SOB, you'ld probably shit your panties if you ever even saw a gun "in real life," let alone stand down range.
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| 11/17/2014 4:24:55 PM |
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darthcapital
North York, ON
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Im still waiting for my strawman argument in my post?
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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It's not a bullshit question!!! They are already stating a clip capacity, ban on assault rifles! It's that foot in the door that will ultimately lead the way to complete fun control!
Foot in the door. lol Boogie woogy.
Limit hand guns to .22 cal..
You are fighting an imaginary issue with imaginary could be answers.
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| 11/17/2014 4:26:55 PM |
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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Im still waiting for my strawman argument in my post?
Sure you are.
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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you calm down you puny SOB, you'ld probably shit your panties if you ever even saw a gun "in real life," let alone stand down range.
That's much better. You see I don't mind if you make yourself look stupid I just don't like you changing my post to make yourself look stupid!
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cntxman
Brownwood, TX
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Did you just f**king say Boogy Woogy???
I must say I stand down! If you can make that kind of remark I obviously have met my match!!
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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Then go back to being all happy about Texas hopefully telling you it's ok to exercise a right you already have.
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hardtwist
Surprise, NE
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I like the anti gun soccer moms. One said the Ruger 10/22 was called that because it killed 2 people for every shout fired or better yet the one that said the AK47 fired 47 bullets every time the trigger was pulled!lol she went on to say AK stood for automatic killer and was a much more dangerous gun than the AR15!
Just like birth control, a comprehensive education should be mandatory
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popado2
Eaton Rapids, MI
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I like the anti gun soccer moms. One said the Ruger 10/22 was called that because it killed 2 people for every shout fired or better yet the one that said the AK47 fired 47 bullets every time the trigger was pulled!lol she went on to say AK stood for automatic killer and was a much more dangerous gun than the AR15!
Just like birth control, a comprehensive education should be mandatory
We've got those types of idiots on both sides of the issue and I can't understand why anyone pays either any mind at all.
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cntxman
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I like the anti gun soccer moms. One said the Ruger 10/22 was called that because it killed 2 people for every shout fired or better yet the one that said the AK47 fired 47 bullets every time the trigger was pulled!lol she went on to say AK stood for automatic killer and was a much more dangerous gun than the AR15!
Just like birth control, a comprehensive education should be mandatory
Now that shit made me laugh!!
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dreamweaver58
Olympia, WA
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As with any restriction, it's well known that there will be those who resist an all out loss of their right - doesn't matter what that right is. The answer is to nudge or take away that right in smaller steps until they get you right where they really wanted you in the first place.
Gun ownership isn't the only right that is slowly being taken away. Look at what the PC police is up to. They are working to control what you can and can not say. They are trying to control what sports teams are named and trying to force one team to change their name because "they don't like it". Where do you think that is going to end?
I could go on but I think I have made my point. Pay attention to what is happening all around you and pay special attention to where it will all end up. Is that the kind of America you want to live in?
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hardtwist
Surprise, NE
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Now that shit made me laugh!!
I'm thinking my 10/22 is defective and maybe should buy an AK47 because the one I owned would fire 47 rounds withe squeeze of the trigger!
Hell you would need a wheel barrow to carry the magazine! Daaayum!
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| 11/17/2014 5:02:27 PM |
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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Quote from hardtwist:
I like the anti gun soccer moms. One said the Ruger 10/22 was called that because it killed 2 people for every shout fired or better yet the one that said the AK47 fired 47 bullets every time the trigger was pulled!lol she went on to say AK stood for automatic killer and was a much more dangerous gun than the AR15!
Just like birth control, a comprehensive education should be mandatory
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You remember when D*ck Cheney accidentally shot the lawyer? ABC's Dianne Sawyer described Cheney's 28 gauge double barreled shotgun firing 3/4 ounce loads of #8 birdshot; as this deadly assault weapon capable of spewing hundreds of lead slugs a second.
Oooh...scary, scary, scary. 
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hardtwist
Surprise, NE
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I forgot about that one bobby!lol
What was the co state senator that thought once the hi cap magazines were empty they couldn't be used again?
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hunter12gauge
Bellaire, OH
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Quote from hardtwist:
I like the anti gun soccer moms. One said the Ruger 10/22 was called that because it killed 2 people for every shout fired or better yet the one that said the AK47 fired 47 bullets every time the trigger was pulled!lol she went on to say AK stood for automatic killer and was a much more dangerous gun than the AR15!
Just like birth control, a comprehensive education should be mandatory
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You remember when D*ck Cheney accidentally shot the lawyer? ABC's Dianne Sawyer described Cheney's 28 gauge double barreled shotgun firing 3/4 ounce loads of #8 birdshot; as this deadly assault weapon capable of spewing hundreds of lead slugs a second.
Oooh...scary, scary, scary.
I got to haned it to Cheney..... Shooting a lawyer and NOT getting sued.
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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I don't recall off the top of my head, twist. Besides, I just ate a half a dozen scrambled eggs, so I'm digesting right now.
I'm not at my best while digesting. lol
I'm also flirting w/ this local belle; who just now asked me what we might be doing after having snuggled while watching a late night movie.
I hate multi-tasking while I'm digesting.
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cntxman
Brownwood, TX
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Can you imagine a 7.62 39mm shell being spewed out in 47 round bursts??? How many pulls would you get on that thing before it was smokin???
She did get the Automatic right, Kalashnikov and the year it was first introduced however doesn't sound so scary!! Lmao
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hunter12gauge
Bellaire, OH
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I just bought a 44 magnum Henry Rifle, Golden Boy it holds 10 shells. Haven't shot it yet. I wonder how bad it kicks?
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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Quote from cntxman:
Can you imagine a 7.62 36mm shell being spewed out in 47 round bursts??? How many pulls would you get on that thing before it was smokin???
She did get the Automatic right, Kalashnikov and the year it was first introduced however doesn't sound so scary!! Lmao
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You ever see any you tube videos of someone using an AA-12 automatic shotgun? Which uses a 20 drum magazine?
Firing off 3 round bursts using 12 gauge loads of #1 buckshot would be 48 pellets per second.
Close enough.
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cntxman
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LB - yea I've seen those!!
That would be a riot!!
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markjetson
Albuquerque, NM
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The AA-12 Shotgun is the same one Terry Crew, (Hail Ceasar,) uses in the Expendables.
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cntxman
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I have yet to watch that movie!!! May need to go get it!
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citylights01
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They haven't!! Yet!! But your gullible if you think it's not a future plan!!!
Well I will back off a little bit. Not here in Texas it won't happen! Hell we are going to be open carry hopefully soon!
They haven't tried to take your guns and you will be able to open carry soon, but you're paranoid they're going to take your guns?
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
25, joined Jul. 2013
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Now why would that be City?
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cntxman - Brownwood, TX
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