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11/17/2014 7:52:39 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Quote from citylights01:
They haven't tried to take your guns and you will be able to open carry soon, but you're paranoid they're going to take your guns?


All of the far rights arguments are based on what the government could do with the impression given that they are already trying. That's why I referenced Alex Jones earlier..lol

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11/17/2014 7:55:52 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
citylights01
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Quote from markjetson:
Those vets were pussies, you want some firsthand "gun stories" I got a really good one for you. What? you say. F u I would'nt piss on you, if your signifigant other started you on fire, let alone tell you about some some personal events. Want to live with gun control, move to N. Korea, Cuba, or Mexico for that matter, see how that works out for you


You guys keep b*tching about him wanting gun control, so you must not have read this thread.

11/17/2014 7:57:51 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
hardtwist
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,061)
Surprise, NE
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Quote from popado2:
All of the far rights arguments are based on what the government could do with the impression given that they are already trying. That's why I referenced Alex Jones earlier..lol


When you have useless tools like Bloomburg spending 50 mil of his own money to elect anti gun politicians and the groups he supports make banning all fire arms illegal...you expect people to not get neevious?

11/17/2014 7:59:30 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
citylights01
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (22,409)
Annapolis, MD
38, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from popado2:
All of the far rights arguments are based on what the government could do with the impression given that they are already trying. That's why I referenced Alex Jones earlier..lol


They always have to whine about something.

11/17/2014 8:04:40 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
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City, NO, you liberal progressives keep b*tching about it because the f**ked up twisted f**ks you coddle are the ones who do this shit.



Quote from citylights01:
You guys keep b*tching about him wanting gun control, so you must not have read this thread.


11/17/2014 8:05:13 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Quote from hardtwist:wn money to elect anti gun politicians and the groups he supports make banning all fire arms illegal...you expect people to not get neevious?
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Good question.

Can you honestly say you are ? I'm not in the least. Besides you are talking about state level laws not national we all need to be worried they are coming for our guns b.s. like the other posters are talking about.

11/17/2014 8:06:21 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
calloused_heart
Romulus, MI
37, joined Sep. 2014


Quote from hunter12gauge:
I just bought a 44 magnum Henry Rifle, Golden Boy it holds 10 shells. Haven't shot it yet. I wonder how bad it kicks?


It's not bad. The .44 magnum is very manageable in a rifle. My lever action .44 mag is pretty tame. The high price of the bullets is why I hardly ever shoot mine. It's been in storage for years.

I hear you can fire .44 mag out of a .410. Thinking about buying that cheap single shot Rossi break barrel to try it out. My only concern is the chamber pressure. Might have to tie it to a tree and run some cord to the trigger. Lol!

11/17/2014 8:06:50 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,776)
Eaton Rapids, MI
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from citylights01:They always have to whine about something.

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Likewise for the far left. Change of topic is all that's needed. Both sides need to start calling out the far sides and disowning their ignorance.

11/17/2014 8:08:49 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
citylights01
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (22,409)
Annapolis, MD
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Quote from jillybodob:
City, NO, you liberal progressives keep b*tching about it because the f**ked up twisted f**ks you coddle are the ones who do this shit.



Quote from citylights01:
You guys keep b*tching about him wanting gun control, so you must not have read this thread.


Do what shit, halen? Who exactly is trying to take away all your guns?

11/17/2014 8:13:09 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
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Bloomberg, Obama, Biden, and every other progressive democrat on the face of the planet, except if you are a criminal in Chicago...then they have nothing to say about that.

11/17/2014 8:14:29 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
hardtwist
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Surprise, NE
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Quote from popado2:
Quote from hardtwist:wn money to elect anti gun politicians and the groups he supports make banning all fire arms illegal...you expect people to not get neevious?
###############################################################


Good question.

Can you honestly say you are ? I'm not in the least. Besides you are talking about state level laws not national we all need to be worried they are coming for our guns b.s. like the other posters are talking about.


We all know Clinton's mislabeled assault weapons ban, was to test the waters for banning weapons. The united methodists counsel went into orgasmic bliss . Funny damn thing is, it didn't ban assault weapons! ignorant public.

There is a segment of the populace that would sell their children to outlaw firearms.

11/17/2014 8:17:18 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
citylights01
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Quote from jillybodob:
Bloomberg, Obama, Biden, and every other progressive democrat on the face of the planet, except if you are a criminal in Chicago...then they have nothing to say about that.


The OP says no one has tried to take his guns. Now you're saying all kinds of people are trying to take all guns. Why is that, halen?

11/17/2014 8:19:41 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
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I don't know City, how about you parrot the prez for the last 3 years?

11/17/2014 8:24:41 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

cntxman
Over 1,000 Posts (1,163)
Brownwood, TX
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City - I clearly stated, no one has "yet" but it's coming in small increments!!! Surely you can wrap your head around it!! I just happen to live in a great state that doesn't believe in cowing down.

11/17/2014 8:25:13 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
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The fact of the matter is City, liberal socialist policies that coddle the violent criminals kill about 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the people killed by guns in this country.

11/17/2014 8:26:12 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Hardtwist

Using the smallest number and most extreme examples doesn't support either side and I tire quickly when a discussion turns into a back and forth of using idiots doing idiotic things from one side or the other to make points.

11/17/2014 8:29:27 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
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pop, maybe you would like to comment on what I last wrote.

11/17/2014 8:30:45 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

cntxman
Over 1,000 Posts (1,163)
Brownwood, TX
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Your argument about the smallest numbers doesn't wash. Have you not paid attention? The smallest groups scream, rant and rave so much that it's the minority rather than majority that creates the most problems!! Look at the shit we have to change in our lives so that we don't offend or upset the minority!!!

11/17/2014 8:33:13 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
hardtwist
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That's my point papado. It was done with a firearm that is used in less than 2% of gun crimes. It made me money and it made me think.

Take a long hard look at California's gun laws. That's the ground work. Gun confistisication will be implemented at the state level, to lay the groundwork for nation wide.

Do I think this will happen in my lifetime? No.

11/17/2014 8:35:00 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
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The 9% (the minority) commit 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the crimes. And I'm being kind on those stats dumb head.

11/17/2014 8:45:06 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Quote from jillybodobop, maybe you would like to comment on what I last wrote.

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No I wouldn't. Not sure why anyone would.

11/17/2014 8:48:51 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (19,741)
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Why, do you think the 9% figure is too high or too low?

11/17/2014 8:52:44 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,776)
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Quote from cntxman:Your argument about the smallest numbers doesn't wash. Have you not paid attention? The smallest groups scream, rant and rave so much that it's the minority rather than majority that creates the most problems!! Look at the shit we have to change in our lives so that we don't offend or upset the minority!!!

______________________________________________________________________________

It doesn't wash with you because they are all you have. Taking away your prepackaged rhetoric would leave you speechless.

If you've noticed I've managed to defend my post without the use of any extremist bullshit. So it can be done with little to no effort if you were to set the bar a little higher.

11/17/2014 8:59:17 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,776)
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Quote from hardtwist:That's my point papado. It was done with a firearm that is used in less than 2% of gun crimes. It made me money and it made me think.

Take a long hard look at California's gun laws. That's the ground work. Gun confistisication will be implemented at the state level, to lay the groundwork for nation wide.

Do I think this will happen in my lifetime? No.

_______________________________________________________________

Sorry. I didn't mean your Clinton example I was referring to the last example you made about the populous willing to sell their children.

Everything can be viewed as the ground work for more positive or more negative legislation while some claim are valid most fail the logic test. Calif's problems started back in the 60's and no other state has that type of foundation in restrictive laws so while I see your point I think it's a bad example.

I remember when the microchip was ground breaking for the medical industry for the patient and it only took a few days before it became the ground work for micro chipping by the government to control us. Seems like everything as a boogie woogie addition to it these days.

11/17/2014 9:00:00 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

cntxman
Over 1,000 Posts (1,163)
Brownwood, TX
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Lmao!! I haven't used rhetoric!! I do pay attention to what the government does with our rights!! I do pay attention to how they do it in small increments so that we are oblivious!!

If I sit and take little tiny bites away from a cake it's not going to appear nearly as bad if I was too just grab the whole cake!! But if I continue the results will be the same... The cake will be gone!!

11/17/2014 9:00:51 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
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No you have not.



Quote from popado2:
Quote from cntxman:Your argument about the smallest numbers doesn't wash. Have you not paid attention? The smallest groups scream, rant and rave so much that it's the minority rather than majority that creates the most problems!! Look at the shit we have to change in our lives so that we don't offend or upset the minority!!!

______________________________________________________________________________

It doesn't wash with you because they are all you have. Taking away your prepackaged rhetoric would leave you speechless.

If you've noticed I've managed to defend my post without the use of any extremist bullshit. So it can be done with little to no effort if you were to set the bar a little higher.


11/17/2014 9:02:52 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Quote from jillybodob:Why, do you think the 9% figure is too high or too low?
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How about I find you and your posts to be a waste of server space and would rather converse with an adult suffering from sever down syndrome. I truly believe it would be more rewarding.

11/17/2014 9:07:54 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
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Interesting. You like catering to the STUPID?



Quote from popado2:
Quote from jillybodob:Why, do you think the 9% figure is too high or too low?
_________________________________________________________________

How about I find you and your posts to be a waste of server space and would rather converse with an adult suffering from sever down syndrome. I truly believe it would be more rewarding.


11/17/2014 9:12:48 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,776)
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from cntxman:Lmao!! I haven't used rhetoric!! I do pay attention to what the government does with our rights!! I do pay attention to how they do it in small increments so that we are oblivious!!

If I sit and take little tiny bites away from a cake it's not going to appear nearly as bad if I was too just grab the whole cake!! But if I continue the results will be the same... The cake will be gone!!

_____________________________________________________________________


What gave you the idea that my posts need to be worded to suit you cup cake ?

You didn't like extreme examples and you don't like rhetoric so I'm sure as shit after a cup of coffee you would throw a tantrum if I called it propaganda .

You started off with a strawman and haven't strayed far from that line since.

11/17/2014 9:14:33 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Quote from jillybodob:Interesting. You like catering to the STUPID?
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If that were the case I would have filled your request. Raise the bar or keep tripping over it. Your choice.

11/17/2014 9:18:19 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

cntxman
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And you haven't strayed from your head in the sand it won't happen rhetoric!! Daffodil

11/17/2014 9:20:52 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Another strawman supported by more ad hominem crap. Guess I was right. With out the rhetoric you'd have little to say.

11/17/2014 9:23:07 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
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Nice try, for all your talk you've not said a damn thing. As a matter of fact you've said nothing for so long and produced nothing for so long, nobody gives a crap what you say anymore.



Quote from popado2:
Quote from jillybodob:Interesting. You like catering to the STUPID?
___________________________________________________________________________________



If that were the case I would have filled your request. Raise the bar or keep tripping over it. Your choice.


11/17/2014 9:33:07 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,776)
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Quote from jillybodob:Nice try, for all your talk you've not said a damn thing. As a matter of fact you've said nothing for so long and produced nothing for so long, nobody gives a crap what you say anymore.

__________________________________________________________________________________

Good. That should remove any worry I might of had of you continuing to respond to my posts.

11/17/2014 9:36:58 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

jillybodob
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Once again, you say nothing, as you always do.

11/18/2014 1:49:53 AM Gun Control... | Page 2  
rtgoss
Pensacola, FL
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I've had to pull a gun to defend myself on multiple occasions. Once i had to put it on dashboard to stop somebody harassing me for money. People who want to ban firearms Don't think things through fully.

11/18/2014 1:54:07 AM Gun Control... | Page 2  
jenny669
Over 2,000 Posts (2,135)
Chester, VA
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OP is a victim of stupidity.

Looks like the only people who get harassed and attacked are people who own guns. Glad I don't have one.



[Edited 11/18/2014 1:55:32 AM ]

11/18/2014 2:27:38 AM Gun Control... | Page 2  
ameadea
Over 1,000 Posts (1,075)
Lewisburg, TN
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The idea of gun control lacks any common sense.
Anyone who thinks criminals will comply with any gun control laws lacks common sense. Firearms in the hands of law obedient citizens do not pose much threats anyway. At least not for anyone who's not trying to harm other people.

So... the brilliant idea is: pass the gun control laws and expect thugs to follow it; take any means of protection away from the citizens, leaving them with only one option of relying on government to protect them, the option that usually fails...
Amazing... as usually.

11/18/2014 5:33:14 AM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Wow. Criminals don't follow the law. Who's the friggen genius that put that together ?

Probably the same guy that asked me how I got sunburned.

11/18/2014 6:50:28 AM Gun Control... | Page 2  

kingslayer99
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Arlington, TN
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Able to put a five round grouping into a 50 yard target bullsey!

11/18/2014 7:21:01 AM Gun Control... | Page 2  
ameadea
Over 1,000 Posts (1,075)
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Quote from popado2:
Wow. Criminals don't follow the law. Who's the friggen genius that put that together ?

Probably the same guy that asked me how I got sunburned.

You don't like the wording or what is your problem with my post?
I'm yet to see an argument that you presented that actually makes any sense. But don't sweat, I don't expect much from you anyway.

11/18/2014 1:28:42 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Quote from ameadea:
You don't like the wording or what is your problem with my post?
I'm yet to see an argument that you presented that actually makes any sense. But don't sweat, I don't expect much from you anyway.


Based on your post I don't think you having a problem making sense of things is anything new so I don't take personal in any way.

11/18/2014 2:16:46 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
ameadea
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Quote from popado2:
Based on your post I don't think you having a problem making sense of things is anything new so I don't take personal in any way.

Well I have to admit you do surprise me time to time. With a nonsense you come up with periodically

11/18/2014 2:40:12 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Quote from ameadea:
Well I have to admit you do surprise me time to time. With a nonsense you come up with periodically



So what do you think about mandatory gun spec laws ? You know the law that gives a criminal a mandatory sentence for the gun on top of any sentence they get for committing the crime itself..

Or how about criminals being denied their right to own a fire arm even after they have served their full sentence ?



[Edited 11/18/2014 2:40:35 PM ]

11/18/2014 2:44:47 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

longbobby
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Quote from rtgoss:
I've had to pull a gun to defend myself on multiple occasions. Once i had to put it on dashboard to stop somebody harassing me for money. People who want to ban firearms Don't think things through fully.
====================================

Ah yes, the old "gun on the dashboard" trick. Works great.

I used to keep a .410 Snake Charmer on the dashboard. Worked great. People were very polite to me.

11/18/2014 2:52:41 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
1love916
Over 4,000 Posts! (7,016)
Inglewood, CA
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Quote from rtgoss:
I've had to pull a gun to defend myself on multiple occasions. Once i had to put it on dashboard to stop somebody harassing me for money. People who want to ban firearms Don't think things through fully.


What type of life style were you living during the time period you had to use your gun to defend yourself multiple times?

You had to of been a cop or a gang banger. I can't think of any other type of life style that would require using a gun to defend yourself multiple times.

And brandishing your weapon to scare pan handlers irresponsible.



[Edited 11/18/2014 2:55:31 PM ]

11/18/2014 3:06:31 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,776)
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that guys full of shit. Florida has a gun spec law with a mandatory sentence for pulling your weapon and yes putting his on the dashboard is considered brandishing his weapon.

Not the outstanding law abiding citizen he tries to make himself out to be.



[Edited 11/18/2014 3:07:07 PM ]

11/18/2014 3:34:27 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
ameadea
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Pop,
Serving your full sentence is not a guarantee of trustworthiness.
The punishment for a crime is supposed to be long term. Even after there are no bars on the windows. To remind one to stay away from the mistakes/crimes done before. Once a person breaks the law intentionally there will be consequences, it's a natural law. Or is yours "do the crime, serve the time, and get clean out of the shit" mentality?

11/18/2014 3:41:07 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

nycman530
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11/18/2014 5:27:45 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,776)
Eaton Rapids, MI
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Quote from ameadea:
Pop,
Serving your full sentence is not a guarantee of trustworthiness.
The punishment for a crime is supposed to be long term. Even after there are no bars on the windows. To remind one to stay away from the mistakes/crimes done before. Once a person breaks the law intentionally there will be consequences, it's a natural law. Or is yours "do the crime, serve the time, and get clean out of the shit" mentality?


I asked you two very simple and direct question's so I can't for the life of me figure out that the f**k you are talking about in that barely coherent post.

Simple yes or no.

11/18/2014 5:29:02 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,776)
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Quote from nycman530:


This is the kind of post that shows you have renounced all logic and reason.

11/18/2014 5:47:15 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

nycman530
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (18,943)
New York, NY
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Quote from popado2:
This is the kind of post that shows you have renounced all logic and reason.


I was displaying the hypocrisy. Renounced all logic and reason? Well, perhaps you're too dense or short-sighted to face the truth: Bloomberg was quoted in a NY Times article as saying “You can have a ban on assault weapons. But assault weapons kill 400 people a year. They get a lot of press. But its 400 vs. 31,000 with handguns. I think having a gun at home when you have children is really dumb.” These statements hint at Bloomberg’s real intent: further confiscation of firearms. So I suppose if Bloomberg had kids and he was an average citizen and didn't have bodyguards and was the victim of a home invasion, he would want his family to be vulnerable to attack? NOW who's illogical?

11/18/2014 5:52:15 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

cntxman
Over 1,000 Posts (1,163)
Brownwood, TX
47, joined May. 2012


Quote from longbobby:
Quote from rtgoss:
I've had to pull a gun to defend myself on multiple occasions. Once i had to put it on dashboard to stop somebody harassing me for money. People who want to ban firearms Don't think things through fully.
====================================

Ah yes, the old "gun on the dashboard" trick. Works great.

I used to keep a .410 Snake Charmer on the dashboard. Worked great. People were very polite to me.


LB - I had a H&R .410/.22 combo I really liked. Pretty nifty little gun!

11/18/2014 6:01:26 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
hunter12gauge
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (17,507)
Bellaire, OH
54, joined Apr. 2008


Gun sales UP 100% in ferguson MO. Gun shop owner says that recently 100% of his gun sales are pistols and AR-15's EVERYONE looking for protection for impending rioting. WTF?

11/18/2014 6:07:30 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,776)
Eaton Rapids, MI
45, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from nycman530:
I was displaying the hypocrisy. Renounced all logic and reason? Well, perhaps you're too dense or short-sighted to face the truth: Bloomberg was quoted in a NY Times article as saying “You can have a ban on assault weapons. But assault weapons kill 400 people a year. They get a lot of press. But its 400 vs. 31,000 with handguns. I think having a gun at home when you have children is really dumb.” These statements hint at Bloomberg’s real intent: further confiscation of firearms. So I suppose if Bloomberg had kids and he was an average citizen and didn't have bodyguards and was the victim of a home invasion, he would want his family to be vulnerable to attack? NOW who's illogical?


No it displays your contempt for logic and reason. Stupid is stupid and there is no defense for that level of stupidity.


It's idiots like you and these other morons that will be the force behind more restrictions on my already over restricted shall not be infringed upon rights!

11/18/2014 6:10:56 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

longbobby
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Lufkin, TX
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Quote from cntxman:
LB - I had a H&R .410/.22 combo I really liked. Pretty nifty little gun!
========================

I'm thinking this will be pretty nifty too.

ROSSI MATCHED PAIR SINGLE-SHOT PISTOL
This handy single-shot pistol arrives with a .22 Long Rifle and .45 Colt/.410 combo barrel.

11 inch barrels.



http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/rossi-matched-pair-single-shot-pistol-review/

Excerpt:

The .410 shot shell patterns produced by the Matched Pair were excellent in comparison to other .45 Colt/.410 handguns on the market. Quite simply, it trounced the competition. The closed chamber, longer barrel and removable straight-rifled choke produced patterns at 7 yards that rival those produced by 20-inch barreled .410 shotguns.

A variety of 2 1/2- and 3-inch birdshot loads produced patterns ranging from 6 to 9 inches. The 00, 000 and No. 4 Buckshot loads tested yielded groups ranging from 2.5 to 5 inches, with the best performance produced by the Federal Premium Handgun 9-Pellet, 3-inch shell.

It should be noted that the level of felt recoil produced by heavy 3-inch .410 buckshot loads is stout, even with the recoil reducing grips. One shell that is bound to leave a memorable impression on both the shooter and the target is the Winchester PDX1 3-inch Defender load. This shell launches 410-grains of copper-plated lead in the form of four defense disks (pre-flattened buckshot pellets) and 16 BB-size shot pellets at a published handgun velocity of 750 fps.

At 7 yards, the defense disks produced a 2.5-inch central group with the BB pellets forming a 6.25-inch pattern around them. I would be handed my walking papers and told to clean out my desk if I ever recommended a single-shot handgun for self-defense. However, it's still good to know that if the Matched Pair were pressed into an emergency defensive roll, it will produce tight, effective buckshot groups with the proper loads.

11/18/2014 6:11:41 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
ameadea
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Quote from popado2:
I asked you two very simple and direct question's so I can't for the life of me figure out that the f**k you are talking about in that barely coherent post.

Simple yes or no.

Ok, to simplify it for you:
If you beat someone up on the street, yes your access to firearms should be restricted.
For anyone having a violence crime on their record possession of any firearms should be limited due to violent history. For someone who have no such history it shouldn't be limited.
Hope that was clear.

11/18/2014 6:12:16 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  

nycman530
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Quote from popado2:
No it displays your contempt for logic and reason. Stupid is stupid and there is no defense for that level of stupidity.


It's idiots like you and these other morons that will be the force behind more restrictions on my already over restricted shall not be infringed upon rights!


What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. You just don't catch on, do you? The cities with the most gun control have the most gun crimes. And no, I won't be the force behind more restrictions in the future. It will be control freaks like Bloomberg and his cronies. You don't know Bloomberg like I do. You don't live in NYC.

11/18/2014 6:14:05 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Quote from ameadea:
Ok, to simplify it for you:
If you beat someone up on the street, yes your access to firearms should be restricted.
For anyone having a violence crime on their record possession of any firearms should be limited due to violent history. For someone who have no such history it shouldn't be limited.
Hope that was clear.


Yes or no would be simplifying it for me. 2 direct and simple questions and you refuse to answer either of them directly.



11/18/2014 6:18:01 PM Gun Control... | Page 2  
popado2
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Quote from nycman530:
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. You just don't catch on, do you? The cities with the most gun control have the most gun crimes. And no, I won't be the force behind more restrictions in the future. It will be control freaks like Bloomberg and his cronies. You don't know Bloomberg like I do. You don't live in NYC.


If you lack the basic common sense to understand how stupid that meme is then how are you going to convince anyone you are intelligent enough to be responsible for a firearm ?

Lefty's use posts like yours to show the lack of common sense and rightfully so, it lacks any kind of sense at all. You are doing their job for them.