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Now back to 911. what we have here on 911 2001 are fake planes,fake hijackers, fake phone calls, fake eye witness testimony, fake passengers mostly I'm guessing.....but real preps that never showed up at the WTC that day like they do 364 days every year.

seems kind of haphazard doesn't it, or more like a Hollywood movie a B rated Hollywood movie.

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Now back to 911. what we have here on 911 2001 are fake planes,fake hijackers, fake phone calls, fake eye witness testimony, fake passengers mostly I'm guessing.....but real preps that never showed up at the WTC that day like they do 364 days every year.

seems kind of haphazard doesn't it, or more like a Hollywood movie a B rated Hollywood movie.


And there we have it, I have taken the liberty to bold the pertinent words of mostly I am GUESSING!

57, please give us ONE LINK to where anyone said they were actors. Of course, if you cannot, then how do you know they were actors and ergo, fake witnesses?

Or are you just GUESSING again?

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Now back to 911. what we have here on 911 2001 are fake planes,fake hijackers, fake phone calls, fake eye witness testimony, fake passengers mostly I'm guessing.....but real preps that never showed up at the WTC that day like they do 364 days every year.

seems kind of haphazard doesn't it, or more like a Hollywood movie a B rated Hollywood movie.

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Now back to 911. what we have here on 911 2001 are fake planes,fake hijackers, fake phone calls, fake eye witness testimony, fake passengers mostly I'm guessing.....but real preps that never showed up at the WTC that day like they do 364 days every year.

seems kind of haphazard doesn't it, or more like a Hollywood movie a B rated Hollywood movie.


Sorry, but just because you repeatedly ride the "no planer" hogwash doesn't prove a thing. If you were really trying to spread the truth to both young and old, you would at least address the evidence I presented proving "September Clues" was bunk, the creation of "Loose Change" by Dylan Avery was by his own admission pure fiction, that John Lear is a raving loonatic, and that the use of holograms to the extent that they could display a complete 767 jetliner is simply not possible. .. We are talking about 911. Right?

Once again 57channels... And mind you, if you have the time to post the above over and over again, then I see no problem why you cannot take the time to answer the evidence I posted below.

Before any kind of image could be projected, so as to be visible against the bright blue sky above New York that morning, some method of creating what can only be described as a mid-air ABSENCE OF LIGHT would first have to have been employed to create what is known as a traveling matte into which a 3D plane image would fit so that it didn't look transparent and blue where the skylight seeped through its lighter tones. Adding to that, the light requirement to project such a science fiction "all-over-New York animated hologram, or multiple holograms", would be measured in trillions of lumens. Considering that there is NO evidence that such a system exists, or is ever likely to exist, pretty well dispels all the nonsense regarding your 911 hologram theory.

Please elaborate 57.

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Sorry, but just because you repeatedly ride the "no planer" hogwash doesn't prove a thing. If you were really trying to spread the truth to both young and old, you would at least address the evidence I presented proving "September Clues" was bunk, the creation of "Loose Change" by Dylan Avery was by his own admission pure fiction, that John Lear is a raving loonatic, and that the use of holograms to the extent that they could display a complete 767 jetliner is simply not possible. .. We are talking about 911. Right?

Once again 57channels... And mind you, if you have the time to post the above over and over again, then I see no problem why you cannot take the time to answer the evidence I posted below.

Before any kind of image could be projected, so as to be visible against the bright blue sky above New York that morning, some method of creating what can only be described as a mid-air ABSENCE OF LIGHT would first have to have been employed to create what is known as a traveling matte into which a 3D plane image would fit so that it didn't look transparent and blue where the skylight seeped through its lighter tones. Adding to that, the light requirement to project such a science fiction "all-over-New York animated hologram, or multiple holograms", would be measured in trillions of lumens. Considering that there is NO evidence that such a system exists, or is ever likely to exist, pretty well dispels all the nonsense regarding your 911 hologram theory.

Please elaborate 57.



That is a great post. I hope he attempts to answer it.

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If you were really trying to spread the truth to both young and old,
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I had a bumper sticker on my car saying 9-11 was an inside job www.truthout.org for 10 years until my Oldsmobile died. Handed all the others out to customers and friends.

I dont believe 95% of your boney dumb questions where you pretend you think you know what your talking about.

PS.......I'll take the experts opinions about holograms, fake planes, fake videos, ect.ect. over your boney questions where you think your some kind of sly devil. Your a dime a dozen cowardly bobblehead here for 1 reason: to spread disinfo and follow orders.

When you slam every person who has spoke out about 9-11.........I would think even those sitting on the fence would say " How can a no name nobody continually criticize all the experts who say 9-11 was an inside job??

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That is a great post. I hope he attempts to answer it.


9/11 truth don't 'do' questions, but they want you to answer everything they posit, but as for actual debate with these creatures, not much luck there.

Hypocrisy, thy name is 9/11 truth.

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Now back to 911. what we have here on 911 2001 are fake planes,fake hijackers, fake phone calls, fake eye witness testimony, fake passengers mostly I'm guessing.....but real preps that never showed up at the WTC that day like they do 364 days every year.

seems kind of haphazard doesn't it, or more like a Hollywood movie a B rated Hollywood movie.


B1 & B2

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PS.......I'll take the experts opinions about holograms,


What EXPERTS?

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STILL waiting for 57 to answer these two very simple questions about fake actors/witnesses.

We know he has trouble in bringing anyone forward, but you thought he might try...

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And there we have it, I have taken the liberty to bold the pertinent words of mostly I am GUESSING!

57, please give us ONE LINK to where anyone said they were actors. Of course, if you cannot, then how do you know they were actors and ergo, fake witnesses?

Or are you just GUESSING again?



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You claimed actors were planted to play eye witnesses, yet you have failed to bring one forward, so how do you know that they were actors?


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When you slam every person who has spoke out about 9-11.........I would think even those sitting on the fence would say " How can a no name nobody continually criticize all the experts who say 9-11 was an inside job??


But of course, conversely, how can you nobodies continue to criticize those experts that say it wasn't an inside job?

After all 57, there are more experts and people within the the USA who do say it was really a terrorist attack.

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But of course, conversely, how can you nobodies continue to criticize those experts that say it wasn't an inside job?

After all 57, there are more experts and people within the the USA who do say it was really a terrorist attack.


Have you read about Pepper's claim that the NIST committed fraud? It's a joke! Because the NIST diagram omitted a joining/seat plate in their modelling of the collapse, these clowns are bleating, 'fraud!'. It doesn't matter that those qualified to revue the material state that the omission would have no effect on the outcome. Where is Gage's or Pepper's paper proving otherwise? Non-existent.

I have supplied in this very thread links to over 50 academic papers from global sources that confirm and agree with the NIST report. Where is Gage's paper demonstrating that the NIST got it wrong? Non-existent.

Why would I believe 9/11 truth? Why would anyone? For to believe what Gage, Chandler or whoever state on the matter without supporting evidence (esp. physical) would be to deny one's academic integrity.

The response to this obvious problem is that there are 2,500 Architects and Engineers in support of the CD hypothesis. This is incorrect as the figure is derived from the amount of people who have signed on to the site, and that does NOT include 2,500 professionals in those fields. The Skeptics society has made a detailed study of the membership and found that the meme, '2,500 architects and engineers' is just that, a meme and definitely 'inflated'.

If they have 2,500 qualified architects and engineers, where are the papers? Surely after thirteen years 2,500 qualified individuals should be able to build a prima facie case for a new investigation, and publish their findings for the academic community to review?

Apparently not.

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Sorry, but just because you repeatedly ride the "no planer" hogwash doesn't prove a thing. If you were really trying to spread the truth to both young and old, you would at least address the evidence I presented proving "September Clues" was bunk, the creation of "Loose Change" by Dylan Avery was by his own admission pure fiction, that John Lear is a raving loonatic, and that the use of holograms to the extent that they could display a complete 767 jetliner is simply not possible. .. We are talking about 911. Right?

Once again 57channels... And mind you, if you have the time to post the above over and over again, then I see no problem why you cannot take the time to answer the evidence I posted below.

Before any kind of image could be projected, so as to be visible against the bright blue sky above New York that morning, some method of creating what can only be described as a mid-air ABSENCE OF LIGHT would first have to have been employed to create what is known as a traveling matte into which a 3D plane image would fit so that it didn't look transparent and blue where the skylight seeped through its lighter tones. Adding to that, the light requirement to project such a science fiction "all-over-New York animated hologram, or multiple holograms", would be measured in trillions of lumens. Considering that there is NO evidence that such a system exists, or is ever likely to exist, pretty well dispels all the nonsense regarding your 911 hologram theory.

Please elaborate 57.


Kudos.

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Chris Mohr discredits the Jones, Harritt and Leahy claims published in Bentham paper. The whole Thermite/Thermate/Nano-Therm*te story has no substance and 9/11 truth cannot discredit the findings.

https://youtu.be/aGGJ4xzna8o

Well done, Chris and thanks for your extensive investigation that finally discredits the foolish claims of 9/11 truth.



[Edited 5/31/2015 3:48:41 AM ]

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Chris Mohr discredits the Jones, Harritt and Leahy claims published in Bentham paper. The whole Thermite/Thermate/Nano-Therm*te story has no substance and 9/11 truth cannot discredit the findings.

https://youtu.be/aGGJ4xzna8o

Well done, Chris and thanks for your extensive investigation that finally discredits the foolish claims of 9/11 truth.


Then give us an explanation to what eyewitnesses such as firemen described as "lava pouring down the side of the building" and that same lava is caught on video.

Explain how the nose of a 767 can miraculously stay in tact without being sliced up as if it's going thru a cheese grater as it goes completely thru one of the towers.

Explain how the whole damn plane went inside of each building without atleast a wing or tail section snapping off therefore crashing to the ground. Explain why the only engine claimed to have been from one of the planes found at the foot of the building was NOT the engine from an american airlines 767.

Explain how a plane going 500 miles per hour and crashes into a building but yet there is no wind vortex whatsoever being evident thru the flames and thick smoke.

Explain how flight 93 crashes into the exact crater, the same crater that was already in that field since 1994. Then explain how flight 93 disintegrated upon impact with no visually large pieces visible until 24 hours later when wreckage was found 5 miles away from the original crash site.

Were just getting warmed up non believers so explain away because after you morons answer these questions, i have a whole barrage more of them for you

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I'm sure you have a lot more questions to ask the three kiddies just like I do.Its people like you and the other patriotic truth seekers who want accountability for the crimes of the elite that give a little hope to this country.

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I'm sure you have a lot more questions to ask the three kiddies just like I do.Its people like you and the other patriotic truth seekers who want accountability for the crimes of the elite that give a little hope to this country.


We answer questions though, YOU seem to skip past and ignore them.

So, I ask again. How do you know the witnesses were paid actors? Can you name them for us?

57, please give us ONE LINK to where anyone said they were actors. Of course, if you cannot, then how do you know they were actors and ergo, fake witnesses?

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STILL waiting for 57 to answer these two very simple questions about fake actors/witnesses.

We know he has trouble in bringing anyone forward, but you thought he might try...

Quote from higgy51:
And there we have it, I have taken the liberty to bold the pertinent words of mostly I am GUESSING!

57, please give us ONE LINK to where anyone said they were actors. Of course, if you cannot, then how do you know they were actors and ergo, fake witnesses?

Or are you just GUESSING again?



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You claimed actors were planted to play eye witnesses, yet you have failed to bring one forward, so how do you know that they were actors?


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Then give us an explanation to what eyewitnesses such as firemen described as "lava pouring down the side of the building" and that same lava is caught on video.

Explain how the nose of a 767 can miraculously stay in tact without being sliced up as if it's going thru a cheese grater as it goes completely thru one of the towers.

Explain how the whole damn plane went inside of each building without atleast a wing or tail section snapping off therefore crashing to the ground. Explain why the only engine claimed to have been from one of the planes found at the foot of the building was NOT the engine from an american airlines 767.

Explain how a plane going 500 miles per hour and crashes into a building but yet there is no wind vortex whatsoever being evident thru the flames and thick smoke.

Explain how flight 93 crashes into the exact crater, the same crater that was already in that field since 1994. Then explain how flight 93 disintegrated upon impact with no visually large pieces visible until 24 hours later when wreckage was found 5 miles away from the original crash site.

Were just getting warmed up non believers so explain away because after you morons answer these questions, i have a whole barrage more of them for you


Explain 1. That wasn't a nose cone of the plane, it was debris and smoke.
Explain 2. What engine was found and from what plane did it come from? (or was it somehow planted?)
Explain 3. Why should there be a wind vortex?
Explain 4. The plane didn't crash into that existing crater, this has already been debunked countless times.

Ask away and be prepared fro answers you won't like.



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So, I ask again. How do you know the witnesses were paid actors? Can you name them for us?
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There are actors or phony witnesses at every false flag attack or govt. inside job. How many were killed speaking out about JFK?? You have to have phony witnesses at every govt. inside job.or average joes would start asking questions and might even get mad?? Common sense

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So, I ask again. How do you know the witnesses were paid actors? Can you name them for us?
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There are actors or phony witnesses at every false flag attack or govt. inside job. How many were killed speaking out about JFK?? You have to have phony witnesses at every govt. inside job.or average joes would start asking questions and might even get mad?? Common sense


The you should be able to name these so called actors shouldn't you? What films have they been in?

How do you know they are phony?

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Explain 1. That wasn't a nose cone of the plane, it was debris and smoke.
Explain 2. What engine was found and from what plane did it come from? (or was it somehow planted?)
Explain 3. Why should there be a wind vortex?
Explain 4. The plane didn't crash into that existing crater, this has already been debunked countless times.

Ask away and be prepared fro answers you won't like.


Question 1. You need to reexamine the (supposed)live footage of the second plane hitting the tower.That CLEARLY was not jagged debris protruding from the exit hole of the building and smoke is transparent nowhere near as uniform as the (supposed)c*ckpit protruding from the building.If it was smoke then wouldn't the force of the plane along with its air pressure have caused the smoke and flames to shoot straight out from the exit hole rather than the smoke curling to look like a smooth c*ckpit?

Question 2. The engine found on murry street was either a cfm56 or a cf6, both made by general electric (owned by rockefeller) but unfortunately american airlines only used pratt-whitney engines on ALL of their 767 aircraft.I bet the idiots that dropped off that engine were buried 6 foot under that same evening

Question 3. Have you ever seen an aircraft go thru the air and not cause a (vortex)disturbance in the air? It's impossible. Smoke or clouds make the vortex visible but yet why wasnt there any type of tortex when the (supposed) second plane hit the tower since there was plenty of flames and smoke to show the vortex? Answer: Because there was no plane.The media thru 3d manipulated the camera footage and added the plane but the idiots allowed the image of a plane to go too far thru the building hence the nose cone protruding.

Question 4. Flight 93 hitting the crater that has been in that field since 1994. If that crater has already been debunked, do you mind showing your sources because i surely can't find it.After you share your source of info, explain away why aerial and on the ground footage shows nothing whatsoever of a plane crash except for a crater in the ground which was already there in 1994.Why no passenger seats, luggage, any significant pieces of wreckage atleast as big as a suitcase, bodies or shit, atleast one of the titanium engines. What are we to believe that again just like the pentagon hoax where the whole damn plane was sucked into a small hole in the building, that flight 93 was completely sucked into a crater with not a damn bit of debris protruding or scattered around the supposed crash site? Then almost 24 hours later we are told the debris miraculously flew 5 miles away to a secluded area in the woods? God help us if were ignorant enough to buy into that bullshit

Here's a 37 minute (fact finding) video that covers all of these questions and a little more so watch it or keep your head buried in the mud, choice is yours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4d2Mt2a6iM

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The 3 kiddies hear, speak, and see no evil unless its sprouted out on the MSM by the Jewish media. The MSM said Bin Laden did it, Bush said Bin Laden did it [ within 3 days ] and it took the feds 10 years to figure out who the unabomber was

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I think we have to be very thankful that the feds let all those people escape out the stairwells before they detonated the entire two big towers. A real terrorist attack [ where the bad guys want to kill as many as possible ] they would have blown out the stairwells 3 or 4 stories high [ maybe higher ] so no one could escape. Nobody mentions this aspect...but a suicide mission would have had terrorists storming the 2 big towers, killing anyone in the way and blown out the stairwells.

Fake planes, fake terrorists, fake videos, fake phone calls, fake Bin Laden tapes --- poorly scripted movie....but Mericans are by far are the dumbest people on earth.

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@ 57 channels,

It's too damn bad the rest of the world knows the real truth but our ignorant fellow american is as dumb as a bag of rocks

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It's too damn bad the rest of the world knows the real truth but our ignorant fellow american is as dumb as a bag of rocks
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I agree for the most part........but since the evidence is soooo overwhelming and the professionals in all area's are sounding off about the truth of 9-11........I have to think a large # of them are just too cowardly to admit it. Or perhaps the ole pride closes the mind. There's alot of people [ esp. vets and troops - since the USA is always in some boondoggle war milking some countries natural resources ] that their minds will not or cannot grasp the truth. Brainwashing over decades and decades. Plus.....anyone of real importance that sounds off....suffers big time.

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You know the perps are getting sooooooo arrogant and brazen I can hear one of them saying to the others " Hey..lets have some stoolie drop off the wrong fkn engine on Murray street...thus this will help the intelligent researches to know that no planes flew that day......but what the f**k are they gonna do about it?? Not a dam thing. We get the no planers arguing with the planers...mission accomplished. The MSM and US Govt. will label them all conspiracy nuts until we have a full fledged police state with martial law---then we can announce that WE DID IT??????? WE DID 911 hahahahahaha

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