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7/29/2015 12:33:08 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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These trophy hunters are disgusting.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/28/africa/zimbabwe-lion-killed/index.html

U.S. dentist wanted for killing Cecil the lion - CNN.com

(CNN)An American man is being sought in connection with a case that has drawn international attention -- the killing of Cecil the lion -- Zimbabwean officials said Tuesday.

The man suspected in Cecil's death is Walter James Palmer of Eden Prairie, Minnesota, according to Johnny Rodrigues, head of the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force.

Cecil, who was 13, was a prized lion in Zimbabwe's Hwange National Park, where visitors reportedly sighted him frequently. A video of the animal, regal, indifferent and sleepy-eyed, has been widely disseminated.

He was a participant in a study that Oxford University in Britain was conducting, and he had been outfitted with a GPS collar.

A police official in Zimbabwe said that two Zimbabweans had been arrested in the case and that police were looking for Palmer.

Walter James Palmer, a U.S. hunter wanted for killing Cecil the lion, seen posing (on the left) with a dead ram.
Walter James Palmer, a U.S. hunter wanted for killing Cecil the lion, seen posing (on the left) with a dead ram.

An alleged $50,000 payment

The Zimbabweans, Honest Trymore Ndlovu and Theo Bronchorst, were due in court Wednesday, according to a statement from the Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife Management Authority and Safari Operators Association of Zimbabwe. Bronchorst is a professional hunter, the statement said.

Rodrigues said Palmer was an American and gave his passport number and street address, but police were more vague. Charity Charamba, a Zimbabwe police spokeswoman, said police were seeking Palmer, "who might be an American or a Spaniard."

The allegation is that the lion was killed illegally, Charamba said.

In a statement Tuesday, Palmer, who runs a dental practice, said he hired professional guides who secured proper permits.

"To my knowledge, everything about this trip was legal and properly handled and conducted," he said in the statement.

"I had no idea that the lion I took was a known, local favorite, was collared and part of a study until the end of the hunt. I relied on the expertise of my local professional guides to ensure a legal hunt."

He said no authorities in Zimbabwe or the United States had contacted him but he would assist them in any inquiries.

The hunter concluded: "Again, I deeply regret that my pursuit of an activity I love and practice responsibly and legally resulted in the taking of this lion."


Cecil's death was cruel, in Rodrigues' account.

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7/29/2015 12:38:41 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
nat_now
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Disgusting! Africa should be ashamed for hosting these hunts.
There has to be a more ethical way to raise funds for their wildlife programs.

7/29/2015 12:59:02 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

urealysucklol
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that's disgusting , I hate hunting, unless u gonna feed people, but to kill such a beautyfull animal just for sport, is just weird , if hunters think they r so bad a** they should hunt the animal using they hands

7/29/2015 1:03:47 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
nat_now
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And charge admission to watch

7/29/2015 1:06:13 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

sureshot40
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I thought killing and selling the body parts was okay and should be tax payer funded.

7/29/2015 1:10:45 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
61falcon
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The Minnesota dentist who shot Cecil had been previously convicted of hunting outside the designated hunting area, here in the USA,clearly someone who thinks he can play with his own rules and morals.

7/29/2015 1:27:45 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

txninnc
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Liberals are more upset about a lion being killed than babies being killed by dismemberment.

7/29/2015 1:36:09 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

urealysucklol
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Quote from nat_now:
And charge admission to watch


7/29/2015 2:00:22 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

thekinghasrisen
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The shot that killed a legacy.

Whatever kind of person this dentist might have been and whatever he might have accomplished in his life; he will forever be known as the 'guy that killed Cecil the Lion'.

That's a pretty high price to pay for a carcass that he didn't even get a meal out of.

7/29/2015 2:02:54 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

urealysucklol
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wow he killed cecil it was elderly too

7/29/2015 2:13:27 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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Quote from thekinghasrisen:
The shot that killed a legacy.

Whatever kind of person this dentist might have been and whatever he might have accomplished in his life; he will forever be known as the 'guy that killed Cecil the Lion'.

That's a pretty high price to pay for a carcass that he didn't even get a meal out of.


Apparently the guy loved trophy hunting. There are lots of pictures with him posing with the animals he killed.

I don't understand that kind of mindset. I get hunting to eat, but hunting just because you think killing animals is fun? Horrible.

7/29/2015 2:14:57 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
smthgabouther
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Damn shame.

7/29/2015 2:26:05 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

urealysucklol
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I wonder how he would feel if we hunt him n cut his nuts off

7/29/2015 2:35:09 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
nat_now
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And charge admission to watch and give $ to wwf.

7/29/2015 2:55:43 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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Maybe the shame of the world knowing he illegally poached the lion will keep him from killing animals for fun.

7/29/2015 3:01:37 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

urealysucklol
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Quote from nat_now:
And charge admission to watch and give $ to wwf.


7/29/2015 3:47:30 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

starfox22
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Quote from txninnc:
Liberals are more upset about a lion being killed than babies being killed by dismemberment.



Well, you know libs gotta get their priorities lined up.

7/29/2015 4:16:28 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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You boys who are complaining about the topic of the thread are free to create your own threads. You aren't being forced to participate in this one. It should be easy enough for you to stay on topic.

7/29/2015 4:31:07 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
walt_hallow
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Quote from starfox22:
Well, you know libs gotta get their priorities lined up.


Too bad your name aint Cecil..

7/29/2015 4:33:57 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
jeffb1981
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If he killed it Bare handed that would have been cool...

7/29/2015 4:34:20 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

urealysucklol
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Quote from citylights01:
You boys who are complaining about the topic of the thread are free to create your own threads. You aren't being forced to participate in this one. It should be easy enough for you to stay on topic.
meh, free country

7/29/2015 4:35:26 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

urealysucklol
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they found the most beautyfull blue fish, I bet the dentist want to go kill it ,

7/29/2015 4:45:30 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
1truuprince
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These immigrants need to stay in their country and stop coming into other people lands to be wicked and evil! Killing innocents animals.

7/29/2015 4:50:31 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

mr_bad_robot
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Cecil's untimely death is cruel. If the Hunter is found guilty of luring Cecil off of the reserve then he should be charged.

7/29/2015 4:54:58 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
1truuprince
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Anybody that hunts innocent animals for fun should be punished!

7/29/2015 4:58:21 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

mr_bad_robot
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Quote from 1truuprince:
Anybody that hunts innocent animals for fun should be punished!


What about unborn babies?

7/29/2015 5:11:31 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
1truuprince
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That's no different but i don't think this thread is about that.

7/29/2015 5:12:09 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
drwookie
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Quote from citylights01:
Maybe the shame of the world knowing he illegally poached the lion will keep him from killing animals for fun.


People that like killing animals for fun are psychopaths, unable to feel shame.



[Edited 7/29/2015 5:12:40 PM ]

7/29/2015 5:44:28 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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Quote from mr_bad_robot:
What about unborn babies?


As already stated, stay on topic.

7/29/2015 5:52:32 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

urealysucklol
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Typical for a woman to say that,

7/29/2015 5:56:11 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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Huh? There's no need to continue to try changing the topic. That has nothing to do with being a woman.

7/29/2015 5:58:08 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
1truuprince
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Foreigners need to be banned and punushed for hunting in africa which is one of the most beautiful places in the world

7/29/2015 5:59:11 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
61falcon
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He paid $55,000 to kill this lion and now the two African guides that accompanied him are being placed on trial........they are punishing the wrong moron.

7/29/2015 6:09:53 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
nat_now
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You morons have to realize this has been going on legally for a long time. Why did the guides not know cecil was his target? Pretty lame guides. But this shouldn't happen anyways. Still, the Africans themselves have poached for ages, selling tusks, killing animals...many have! This hunter has likely done his last dentistry and last trip to Africa. He's hiding..

7/29/2015 6:19:01 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
aposorichie
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Davey Crockett killed him a bare when he was only three..

Davey..Davey Crocket..

Men are the masters...

7/29/2015 6:36:36 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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Quote from aposorichie:
Davey Crockett killed him a bare when he was only three..

Davey..Davey Crocket..

Men are the masters...


This guy is such a manly man for killing a lion for fun, right? Even more so for luring the lion out of the national park to kill him!

7/29/2015 6:40:31 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
lennyjohn58
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You gotta be a special kind of sick bastard to kill an animal for sport.

7/29/2015 6:41:08 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from 61falcon:
He paid $55,000 to kill this lion and now the two African guides that accompanied him are being placed on trial........they are punishing the wrong moron.

ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

He doesn't know, he is depending on the guides for accurate info on what lions he can kill.

We have similar buffalo hunts here.

7/29/2015 6:42:18 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

reginamc
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/02/zimbabwes-mugabe-condemns-white-safaris-eats-baby-elephant-at-lavish-birthday-bash/

This is Africa, "City" - read about how they celebrate their president's birthday - Zimbabwe has no room to talk about killing anything. The guy served a whole zoo of exotic animals. Including an old lion.

That's what they do.

I can't believe that with everything going on in the world you get all torqued up about a lion.

7/29/2015 6:48:10 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
Quote from 61falcon:
He paid $55,000 to kill this lion and now the two African guides that accompanied him are being placed on trial........they are punishing the wrong moron.

ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

He doesn't know, he is depending on the guides for accurate info on what lions he can kill.

We have similar buffalo hunts here.


I don't believe that someone paying that much to kill an animal doesn't do their research to know and understand what they're getting into. He's to blame just as much as his guides. Understand the laws when you do something, rather than not taking responsibility for what you've done and placing the blame on others.

Regina, I get that you don't like threads about animals here because you feel other things in the world are more important. You're free to post about those things you find more important. You're not being forced to participate in this thread.

7/29/2015 6:55:25 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
beachlivinnow
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Quote from citylights01:
Apparently the guy loved trophy hunting. There are lots of pictures with him posing with the animals he killed.

I don't understand that kind of mindset. I get hunting to eat, but hunting just because you think killing animals is fun? Horrible.


Are you kidding ?? You're worried about that ???

Maybe you ought to be more worried about the pervasive atmosphere of graft and ignarance of all law shown by apes all over Africa. This is what leads to all the HUMAN starvation, civil wars, tribal wars, vaginal mutilation which is the 3rd largest RELIGION in Africa.

You liberals continually show us why you belong in the special olympics.

7/29/2015 6:56:34 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

urealysucklol
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7/29/2015 7:00:46 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
Yasureoktoo
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People have gone on African Surfaris forever, and were at the mercy of the guides, who work for the government, to show them where to hunt.

While he may have gone along with something illegal, he also may not have known.
The guides wanted their money, and don't get it without him getting his lion.
They knew what they were doing.

7/29/2015 7:01:00 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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Quote from beachlivinnow:
Are you kidding ?? You're worried about that ???

Maybe you ought to be more worried about the pervasive atmosphere of graft and ignarance of all law shown by apes all over Africa. This is what leads to all the HUMAN starvation, civil wars, tribal wars, vaginal mutilation which is the 3rd largest RELIGION in Africa.

You liberals continually show us why you belong in the special olympics.


What is with you people whining about this thread, rather than just creating your own threads to discuss what you find important?

7/29/2015 7:01:43 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

reginamc
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Quote from citylights01:
I don't believe that someone paying that much to kill an animal doesn't do their research to know and understand what they're getting into. He's to blame just as much as his guides. Understand the laws when you do something, rather than not taking responsibility for what you've done and placing the blame on others.

Regina, I get that you don't like threads about animals here because you feel other things in the world are more important. You're free to post about those things you find more important. You're not being forced to participate in this thread.


Can't comment on the article?

7/29/2015 7:02:05 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
People have gone on African Surfaris forever, and were at the mercy of the guides, who work for the government, to show them where to hunt.

While he may have gone along with something illegal, he also may not have known.
The guides wanted their money, and don't get it without him getting his lion.
They knew what they were doing.


I'm sure they did, but he should have known what he was doing as well. This guy is apparently a big trophy hunter, so I'm willing to bet he knew exactly what he was getting into.

7/29/2015 7:02:48 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

reallove202331
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I sit on my porch and shoot coons of the top.of my garbage cans and it is fun!

7/29/2015 7:04:14 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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Sociopaths kill animals for fun.

7/29/2015 7:09:45 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

reallove202331
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Its not also fun, i dont have to pick up a mess the next morning either from the trash in my driveway

7/29/2015 7:11:33 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
nat_now
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.

She trains rangers to stop poachers in Africa.

7/29/2015 7:11:44 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

reginamc
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Quote from reallove202331:
Its not also fun, i dont have to pick up a mess the next morning either from the trash in my driveway


You could get some trash cans that they can't get into. I've heard they exist.

7/29/2015 7:12:17 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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We're on the same page for the first time ever, I think, Nat.

7/29/2015 7:14:18 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

naprinciple
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Quote from citylights01:
Sociopaths kill animals for fun.




Like cops and dogs

7/29/2015 7:15:49 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
mizgal
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I heard about that story. Ppl who do that are just sick.

7/29/2015 7:17:23 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

naprinciple
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Quote from mizgal:
I heard about that story. Ppl who do that are just sick.



Almost as sick as people who kill babies, or travel to other countries and kill people until their government relents

7/29/2015 7:18:55 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
1truuprince
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This angry me in a way, these foreigners need to be banned for hunting.

7/29/2015 7:22:46 PM Killing Cecil the lion  

reginamc
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Quote from 1truuprince:
This angry me in a way, these foreigners need to be banned for hunting.



Does this "angry you" too?



http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/02/zimbabwes-mugabe-condemns-white-safaris-eats-baby-elephant-at-lavish-birthday-bash/

7/29/2015 7:25:16 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
walt_hallow
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nice deflection regi, that's all you ever f**king do

7/29/2015 7:27:40 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
1truuprince
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Quote from reginamc:
Does this "angry you" too?



http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/02/zimbabwes-mugabe-condemns-white-safaris-eats-baby-elephant-at-lavish-birthday-bash/


How is it even compared? Irrelevant

7/29/2015 7:27:47 PM Killing Cecil the lion  
citylights01
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Regina, the laws need to apply to those who live there as well as those coming there to hunt. However, the guy who this thread is about kills animals simply for fun. The lion was found skinned and beheaded. He didn't kill it to eat it.