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8/7/2015 11:07:32 PM  

stellar007
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He loses my vote.

He better be able to back that a$$ up!




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8/7/2015 11:08:54 PM Plymouth, MI  

longbobby
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If Trump goes independent...history will repeat itself and Trump will become Ross Perot Version 2.0, allowing Hitlery to slither her way into the half white house.

8/7/2015 11:10:59 PM Plymouth, MI  
alls_fair
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I see the similarities between tRump and Perot already...

And I ain't looking very hard either!

8/7/2015 11:11:22 PM Plymouth, MI  

nuffan
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Trump will not go independent unless the republican party forces him to...

And they are well on their way to doing just that...

Clearly Fox News has already made their mind up...

In the end it will only hurt the republicans...and they will only have their party to blame for it...



[Edited 8/7/2015 11:11:58 PM ]

8/7/2015 11:14:35 PM Plymouth, MI  

w6o6l6f_1
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I like Trump's attitude.
He lost me on stopping Obamacare.

8/7/2015 11:15:26 PM Plymouth, MI  

hurryme
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Quote from nuffan:
Trump will not go independent unless the republican party forces him to...

And they are well on their way to doing just that...

Clearly Fox News has already made their mind up...

In the end it will only hurt the republicans...and they will only have their party to blame for it...


It doesn't mean Shillary is a shoe in though, she is toxic!

8/7/2015 11:23:31 PM Plymouth, MI  
nat_now
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Do you trust the RNC to get behind him if polls show for him?

I'm glad he didn't "pledge".. he would have though, had he felt he was getting backed and treated fairly, so far.

The msm, Luntz, rnc has been less than respectful!

He did the right thing.

The question should have been to raise hands to pledge to back Trump if he gets the nom..

Ha.

8/7/2015 11:25:29 PM Plymouth, MI  

nycman530
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7 years ago Trump admired Hillary. Now he despises her. He flip flops on many things. We need to know where he stands.

8/7/2015 11:25:30 PM Plymouth, MI  

longbobby
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Quote from nat_now:
Do you trust the RNC to get behind him if polls show for him?

I'm glad he didn't "pledge".. he would have though, had he felt he was getting backed and treated fairly, so far.

The msm, Luntz, rnc has been less than respectful!

He did the right thing.

The question should have been to raise hands to pledge to back Trump if he gets the nom..

Ha.


Jeb Bush has already announced he will be the nominee. I believe him. The GOP will do to Trump what they did to Ron Paul and screw him out of the nomination going with their "chosen one" Jeb Bush.

The fix is in.

8/7/2015 11:26:01 PM Plymouth, MI  
nomorecatast
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Yeah I thought trump spoke like a clown...

Not to mention he made a lot of false statements.

8/7/2015 11:27:42 PM Plymouth, MI  

longbobby
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Most repub politicians these days aren't really Conservatives anymore. Rather, they are cuckservatives.

I can see already I need to educate you guys on what cucks are.

8/7/2015 11:31:00 PM Plymouth, MI  
alls_fair
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Not that you give a hairy rat's a** what my opinion is but I just don't think tRump is electable...

And the reason is very simple. The gen'ral public doesn't feel comfortable electing someone like trump nor perot for the simple reason that they are still clinging to their ol' delusions about the "American dream". Electing a patsy middle man is still far more palatable than giving up their denial that the US is no longer a democracy nor a place where hard work and thrift is rewarded...

To elect trump or someone like him is to come to terms with the US aristocracy and US constituents are not capable of that...YET!!!

8/7/2015 11:33:39 PM Plymouth, MI  
1truuprince
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Is it true he was straight outta bankruptcy 4 times and he inherited his fortune from his father?

8/7/2015 11:36:49 PM Plymouth, MI  
nat_now
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Quote from nycman530:
7 years ago Trump admired Hillary. Now he despises her. He flip flops on many things. We need to know where he stands.


Businessmen admire a lot of people they might need. Nothing new there.. it is necessary.. everyone has to climb fool's hill. This man has given up a lot to run.. and he's risking MUCH. Who else has ANYTHING to lose if they don't win??

8/7/2015 11:39:10 PM Plymouth, MI  
alls_fair
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Quote from nat_now:
Businessmen admire a lot of people they might need. Nothing new there.. it is necessary.. everyone has to climb fool's hill. This man has given up a lot to run.. and he's risking MUCH. Who else has ANYTHING to lose if they don't win??


What would he have to lose???

I am just curious...

8/7/2015 11:39:33 PM Plymouth, MI  
nomorecatast
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Hes not losing anything. He can retire right now and move to a private island if he wants.

8/7/2015 11:40:48 PM Plymouth, MI  

thekinghasrisen
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Quote from stellar007:
He loses my vote.

He better be able to back that a$$ up!


Why?

What happened to voting on principal over partisanship?

8/8/2015 12:00:05 AM Plymouth, MI  
1truuprince
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I like trump but in a different view but as president i can't say. Being a president is not a business but a serious matter greater then it. I think he a funny guy with sense of humor but again he say some foul stuff that isn't president like.




On the other hand Is it true he was straight outta bankruptcy 4 times and he inherited his fortune from his father?

8/8/2015 12:05:06 AM Plymouth, MI  

srv63
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Quote from nycman530:
7 years ago Trump admired Hillary. Now he despises her. He flip flops on many things. We need to know where he stands.


Trump was completely behind the clintons in the past and i'm sure nothing has changed. I honestly believe that Trump is just another con job by the puppet masters to seem opposite of hillary the b*tch clinton.This way we focus and vote for either of them that way the puppet masters still win, much the same as the so called difference between a republican and democrat.There is NO difference. We need to vote for the underdog that the media tries to attack or fails to mention--THAT is where the best man is

8/8/2015 12:07:14 AM Plymouth, MI  
nat_now
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Quote from alls_fair:
What would he have to lose???

I am just curious...


Listen to him bare all! He burns a bridge everytime he opens his mouth...look how many like Macy's and many more took their toys and went home, sticking him in the back! He wouldn't be sticking his neck out like this if he didn't really want this!
Sure he can retire. But can u imagine the people who want to really stick it to him now he's honestly called them out???

The one guy who can do what we need done, esp re the tpp, and for us to stop rolling over on trade deals, the one guy who has had to have great negotiating skills to come out at advantage, and look at the competition...ugh... they're SO LAME.!!!!!!!

8/8/2015 12:16:28 AM Plymouth, MI  

stellar007
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If Trump can't out smart and out class Bush and then goes independent in a temper tantrum, then Bush will still kick Trumps a$$ and bankrupt him once more.

His job is to draw heat from the marque -- if he turns on the GOP he will pay. Period!

8/8/2015 12:18:30 AM Plymouth, MI  

stellar007
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In other words... Trump better be a good boy and do as he is told.

8/8/2015 12:29:31 AM Plymouth, MI  
nat_now
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Well, if they appear neck in neck and we the people smell a rat, I do think he could win as an Independent..he's smart to leave his option open. For US. To not be locked in to holding our noses to vote.

8/8/2015 12:36:57 AM Plymouth, MI  

stellar007
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Trump just wants to be President to be President. I'm not sure he would know what to do if elected, except look out for himself as he has always done.

Bush has seasoned ex presidential family to fall back on... I don't see Trump getting a majority -- even if he went independent.

8/8/2015 12:43:09 AM Plymouth, MI  
nat_now
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I've always voted. Always cared about it. But after holding my nose on (R)'s in recent times.. for me, it is Trump or I'm done voting.

8/8/2015 12:44:34 AM Plymouth, MI  
amusicluvr
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Most Tea Baggers will support Trump no matter what he says, or does. That gives him 25%, or so, of the GOP vote. The same clowns who voted to oust Boehner will vote for Trump, even if he runs as an Independent. So will the hillbillies who voted to put those clowns in office.

8/8/2015 12:47:52 AM Plymouth, MI  
giss7
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If he goes, hillary becomes president. Maybe the repubs should consider that before they undermine him.

8/8/2015 1:18:08 AM Plymouth, MI  

stellar007
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It doesn't take much effort to be blunt -- just a certain level of arrogance.

Trump says things many people are thinking but has no idea how to actually solve the problems he complains about.

Trump will fold his hand once the GOP is no longer paying fo his jet fuel.

8/8/2015 1:25:34 AM Plymouth, MI  
fallguy02379
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Trump joined the race to show the GOP that they lack substance as a party .

It's a wake up call for the party

IMO [and many others] McCain ran in 2008 to shake up the GOP, IMO had no no real desire to win the nomination and IMO that is why he picked Palin.

I am not alone , many felt the same way

8/8/2015 1:28:29 AM Plymouth, MI  
fallguy02379
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Quote from stellar007:
If Trump can't out smart and out class Bush and then goes independent in a temper tantrum, then Bush will still kick Trumps a$$ and bankrupt him once more.

His job is to draw heat from the marque -- if he turns on the GOP he will pay. Period!


This time around being anti- established GOP is the way to gain votes

Being anti-liberal was once an idea but, the recent crop of GOP failing miserably as leaders has given Trump a way in.

8/8/2015 6:54:25 AM Plymouth, MI  

nuffan
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Quote from hurryme:
It doesn't mean Shillary is a shoe in though, she is toxic!



Where in my post did I ever mention Hillary?

I do not even think Hillary will get the democratic nomination....

8/8/2015 7:06:40 AM Plymouth, MI  

whcarter
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Overnight Chump was disinvited from RedState Nation because of really despicable comments about Megyn Kelly (Blood was coming out of her eyes and coming out of her wherever.)
This clown has no filter whatsoever and may be entertainment but not remotely presidential material. You people mock Biden for his gaffs, but this stuff is okay?
And it's delusional to think that he can win as a third-party candidate. You can't win any election when you've alienated women and Hispanics. You can't win on the old white man vote alone. Not happening. And he goes third-party, Hillary should start measuring for drapes now.

8/8/2015 7:28:01 AM Plymouth, MI  
lennyjohn58
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Quote from nomorecatast:
Yeah I thought trump spoke like a clown...

Not to mention he made a lot of false statements.


They all did. It's like right wingers live in an alternate universe

8/8/2015 7:39:34 AM Plymouth, MI  

nycman530
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Trump really hurt himself by not only his attitude and remarks but by the fact that he was the only one who raised his hand that he wouldn't pledge support for the winner. And I never cared for his flip flopping and pandering. I was more impressed by Carson, Rubio, Fiorina, and Huckabee. And Kasich seemed to have good likeable qualities as well. I can envision Fiorina being a VP candidate. As a woman, she has more to offer than Palin, Bachmann, or Hillary.

8/8/2015 7:40:25 AM Plymouth, MI  

nuffan
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Quote from whcarter:
Overnight Chump was disinvited from RedState Nation because of really despicable comments about Megyn Kelly (Blood was coming out of her eyes and coming out of her wherever.)
This clown has no filter whatsoever and may be entertainment but not remotely presidential material. You people mock Biden for his gaffs, but this stuff is okay?
And it's delusional to think that he can win as a third-party candidate. You can't win any election when you've alienated women and Hispanics. You can't win on the old white man vote alone. Not happening. And he goes third-party, Hillary should start measuring for drapes now.




You could not be more wrong...

Legal immigrants want the illegals dealt with as well...

Women...Trump has not alienated the majority of women...some of course he is going to piss some people off...sure...

His momentum is gaining...and it is not the old white mans vote driving it....



[Edited 8/8/2015 7:41:26 AM ]

8/8/2015 7:48:36 AM Plymouth, MI  
annamally
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Quote from whcarter:
Overnight Chump was disinvited from RedState Nation because of really despicable comments about Megyn Kelly (Blood was coming out of her eyes and coming out of her wherever.)
This clown has no filter whatsoever and may be entertainment but not remotely presidential material. You people mock Biden for his gaffs, but this stuff is okay?
And it's delusional to think that he can win as a third-party candidate. You can't win any election when you've alienated women and Hispanics. You can't win on the old white man vote alone. Not happening. And he goes third-party, Hillary should start measuring for drapes now.



Didn't Hillary already steal the drapes ?

8/8/2015 7:50:57 AM Plymouth, MI  

nuffan
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Trump is actually campaigning quite well...He has found a growing vein of population...

Americans fed up with establishment politics and political correctness...and that is a large sector made up of a lot more than angry old white men...


Do not know if he can win with it...but it is certainly keeping him in the race...



[Edited 8/8/2015 7:51:46 AM ]

8/8/2015 8:06:33 AM Plymouth, MI  
giss7
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Quote from nycman530:
Trump really hurt himself by not only his attitude and remarks but by the fact that he was the only one who raised his hand that he wouldn't pledge support for the winner. And I never cared for his flip flopping and pandering. I was more impressed by Carson, Rubio, Fiorina, and Huckabee. And Kasich seemed to have good likeable qualities as well. I can envision Fiorina being a VP candidate. As a woman, she has more to offer than Palin, Bachmann, or Hillary.



The rest of the candidates are beholden to do what they are told by the rnc. That's where their money and control comes from. Trump is not forced to do as he is told.

8/8/2015 9:05:57 AM Plymouth, MI  
waltree
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As an Independent voter it won't make any difference with me what so ever. As far as I'm concerned the 2 party system is nothing but a Cesspool of Corrupted Politicians.
Donald Trump is not Owned by any Special Interest or Lobbyist Group. That earns him my vote.

8/8/2015 9:42:18 AM Plymouth, MI  

srv63
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Quote from waltree:
As an Independent voter it won't make any difference with me what so ever. As far as I'm concerned the 2 party system is nothing but a Cesspool of Corrupted Politicians.
Donald Trump is not Owned by any Special Interest or Lobbyist Group. That earns him my vote.


I agree with your statement, only problem is, since the media is talking about Trump daily, it seems as if the media wants to appear to not like Trump but in reality constantly mentioning a candidate makes that candidate more popular and a household name. Something about it really stinks.

Remember when Ross Perot and Ron Paul ran, both were barely mentioned by the bought off media for the sole purpose of alienating them from being known by the public.

8/8/2015 10:05:08 AM Plymouth, MI  

nuffan
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Quote from srv63:
I agree with your statement, only problem is, since the media is talking about Trump daily, it seems as if the media wants to appear to not like Trump but in reality constantly mentioning a candidate makes that candidate more popular and a household name. Something about it really stinks.

Remember when Ross Perot and Ron Paul ran, both were barely mentioned by the bought off media for the sole purpose of alienating them from being known by the public.



That is an interesting view...

only I think Fox News honestly thinks they can sabotage him...and they are scared of him and they were not scared of Ross Perot or Ron Paul...

8/8/2015 10:08:32 AM Plymouth, MI  

mr_bad_robot
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Do people really like Trump or do they like what he is talking about? Trump the man I think any sane person would agree is not presidential material. Now his ideas would make a great a president.

8/8/2015 11:21:19 AM Plymouth, MI  

srv63
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Quote from mr_bad_robot:
Do people really like Trump or do they like what he is talking about? Trump the man I think any sane person would agree is not presidential material. Now his ideas would make a great a president.


^^^^^Agreed

8/8/2015 11:24:27 AM Plymouth, MI  
nat_now
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Trump didn't get this far with poor communication skills in negotiating.
He just already knew MSM is vile scum...

8/8/2015 11:25:25 AM Plymouth, MI  
waltree
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Quote from mr_bad_robot:
Do people really like Trump or do they like what he is talking about? Trump the man I think any sane person would agree is not presidential material. Now his ideas would make a great a president.


Presidential Material amounts to a Wizard of Oz Show. Behind the scenes presidents are as ordinary and common as any man on the street. I refuse to worship any politician as a God, being all of them are Corrupt as Hell.
I think Trumps experience with bankruptcy and debt will help him deal with the massive debt problem the USA is facing. I think he will do his best to solve some of this nations problems unlike our Current Do Nothing Congress and Senate!

8/8/2015 11:44:25 AM Plymouth, MI  

starfox22
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Quote from longbobby:
If Trump goes independent...history will repeat itself and Trump will become Ross Perot Version 2.0, allowing Hitlery to slither her way into the half white house.


I thought so a few weeks ago but not so much anymore. I think republicans and conservatives would abandon him in droves if he did that. There is too much at stake to give the democrats another 4 or 8 years to completely f**k this country over.

Now Bernie on the other hand would be a force as an independent. He would garner all of the dependent, jealous of success, oh woe is me, vote. He promises the world to people, with zero method of paying for it, and the sheeple love that stuff so he would draw millions away from the democrats.

Trump will be a force only in that he will feel butt hurt when people no longer cheer him and he will switch parties and throw millions toward the skank to try to get her elected.

8/8/2015 11:46:41 AM Plymouth, MI  

stellar007
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Trump does well for himself... That's about all.

He talks the talk but I'd be very surprised if he could walk the walk of a politician. He lacks political experience but hides it with scathing critisism.

If Trump can win the GOP nomination it might go a long way towards proving he is able to work with others.

8/8/2015 11:49:38 AM Plymouth, MI  
giss7
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Quote from mr_bad_robot:
Do people really like Trump or do they like what he is talking about? Trump the man I think any sane person would agree is not presidential material. Now his ideas would make a great a president.



It all depends on what you mean. As a negotiator, he's miles ahead of anything Obama ever thought. On trade contacts, again no one can touch him. On law and order? He's right on. For pussies with with virgin ears who want only to hide from the truth? He will make them at the bed at night.

8/8/2015 11:51:48 AM Plymouth, MI  
giss7
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Quote from stellar007:
Trump does well for himself... That's about all.

He talks the talk but I'd be very surprised if he could walk the walk of a politician. He lacks political experience but hides it with scathing critisism.

If Trump can win the GOP nomination it might go a long way towards proving he is able to work with others.


No experience? You mean like obama? Executive experience? He has more than any one in my life time.


Lack political experience? That just means you f**k the American people for your donors.

8/8/2015 12:01:56 PM Plymouth, MI  

nuffan
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Quote from starfox22: I thought so a few weeks ago but not so much anymore. I think republicans and conservatives would abandon him in droves if he did that. There is too much at stake to give the democrats another 4 or 8 years to completely f**k this country over.

Now Bernie on the other hand would be a force as an independent. He would garner all of the dependent, jealous of success, oh woe is me, vote. He promises the world to people, with zero method of paying for it, and the sheeple love that stuff so he would draw millions away from the democrats.

Trump will be a force only in that he will feel butt hurt when people no longer cheer him and he will switch parties and throw millions toward the skank to try to get her elected.



Bernie Sanders whole message is change the taxation burden from the middle class...

it is not a message of communism...lol

and we are all going to feel it...he will eliminate the earned income credit by raising the minimum wage...how he goes about it will be also constrained by congress...

but raising it is going to cause over all prices to rise...

No way to pay for it?

Bernie will fix our horrific taxation policies...

the elite will not like it...

and neither will the poor....

because the earned income credit would go away and so would supply side economics...

added revenue from the bottom...and added revenue from the top...

and congress is never going to let him get it to 90%....lol

but it will go up....it has no choice...


This country has thrived on its working class for decades...

and our taxation policy has worked against the working class and has to change...

it favors those who barely work...and those who do not have to work...

8/8/2015 1:16:45 PM Plymouth, MI  

stellar007
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Quote from giss7:
No experience? You mean like obama? Executive experience? He has more than any one in my life time.


Lack political experience? That just means you puck the American people for your donors.


What does Trump bring to the table in terms of Military experience? Does his family have any Military background?

What good would Trumps business experience be during a time of War? Bush on the other hand, has a vast assortment of assets in the War department -- and more importantly the respect of our armed forces. While Trumps statements about McCains war record were unflatteringly truthful, it cost him a lot of respect. Telling someone their best isn't good enough is too little, too late after said person has served his time and lived to tell the story. Trump could have stood his ground with McCain in a more tactful way but that is not Trumps style.

It really comes down to who is best qualified to run the nation. Jeb hasn't even taken off his glasses, yet alone his gloves. I'm giving Jeb a lot of credit based upon his pedigree - George Sr. and George W., both past Presidents. No one can deny that W. lead this nation thru a very difficult time in American history and did a darn good job! I'm very interested in seeing Jeb in full on campaign mode.

Trump simply isn't prepared to deal with a politicians lifestyle. It would honestly be the equivalent of thermal shock if he got in office. It's just not his style! Let's face it, politicians are as reptile as attorneys but they literally live the $hit. They make sacrifices of time, family and any worth their salts make it their life - for the overall betterment of life for others. Make no mistake, many fail miserably, become corrupt or both. That's why I'm a little leery of a Trump nomination.

That said, Trump needs his on Jet because otherwise he'd have to check his ego with his baggage.



[Edited 8/8/2015 1:17:07 PM ]

8/8/2015 1:24:07 PM Plymouth, MI  

stellar007
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I'm also willing to bet that in addition to having a solid Family to fall back on, Jeb has learned from the mistakes of others. He will be much more critical of his actions since he has an inherent obligation to show the world he can do it better than his Dad and Brother.

And who can Deny that George W. wasn't the favorite of the family? With a name like that how could he not have won the Presidency!



[Edited 8/8/2015 1:25:14 PM ]

8/8/2015 1:42:14 PM Plymouth, MI  
Yasureoktoo
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I would like to see another party formed.

8/8/2015 1:46:04 PM Plymouth, MI  

stellar007
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
I would like to see another party formed.


What part might that be? The party of let's see who can be the biggest a$$?

We already have the Democrat party!

8/8/2015 1:58:40 PM Plymouth, MI  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from stellar007:
What part might that be? The party of let's see who can be the biggest a$$?

We already have the Democrat party!


Dems and repubs are in bed together on most things anyway, sure they put up a phony show for the people, but we need a party who will break the lines, not catering to special interests, but rather for what is right.

8/8/2015 2:16:35 PM Plymouth, MI  

srv63
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Quote from stellar007:
What does Trump bring to the table in terms of Military experience? Does his family have any Military background?

What good would Trumps business experience be during a time of War? Bush on the other hand, has a vast assortment of assets in the War department -- and more importantly the respect of our armed forces. While Trumps statements about McCains war record were unflatteringly truthful, it cost him a lot of respect. Telling someone their best isn't good enough is too little, too late after said person has served his time and lived to tell the story. Trump could have stood his ground with McCain in a more tactful way but that is not Trumps style.

It really comes down to who is best qualified to run the nation. Jeb hasn't even taken off his glasses, yet alone his gloves. I'm giving Jeb a lot of credit based upon his pedigree - George Sr. and George W., both past Presidents. No one can deny that W. lead this nation thru a very difficult time in American history and did a darn good job! I'm very interested in seeing Jeb in full on campaign mode.

Trump simply isn't prepared to deal with a politicians lifestyle. It would honestly be the equivalent of thermal shock if he got in office. It's just not his style! Let's face it, politicians are as reptile as attorneys but they literally live the $hit. They make sacrifices of time, family and any worth their salts make it their life - for the overall betterment of life for others. Make no mistake, many fail miserably, become corrupt or both. That's why I'm a little leery of a Trump nomination.

That said, Trump needs his on Jet because otherwise he'd have to check his ego with his baggage.


Quote from stellar:

It really comes down to who is best qualified to run the nation. Jeb hasn't even taken off his glasses, yet alone his gloves. I'm giving Jeb a lot of credit based upon his pedigree - George Sr. and George W., both past Presidents. No one can deny that W. lead this nation thru a very difficult time in American history and did a darn good job! I'm very interested in seeing Jeb in full on campaign mode.

Are you f**king kidding me? Do you really buy that bullshit that you just posted? George W is a full time idiot with the IQ of a dildo and your giving him credit for running this country well? That idiot that you look up to did NOTHING while daddy bush senior and the real one running the whitehouse at that time d*ck cheney, were setting the stage for 9/11 to murder fellow americans just so we would be outraged and stand by them as they go wipe out Iraq and steal their oil and line all of their pockets. Let's not forget bush sr. the pedophile who is tied to the assassination of JFK. Sure, why not go ahead and elect another bush because we can always use another HUGE american tragedy that WE ALL can be ashamed of letting happen. Bush's did a darn good job? NOT

8/8/2015 2:29:13 PM Plymouth, MI  
hercules2010
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Quote from longbobby:
Most repub politicians these days aren't really Conservatives anymore. Rather, they are cuckservatives.

I can see already I need to educate you guys on what cucks are.


Is a cuckservative anything like a cuckold? There used to be a cuckold on here but I forget his name.

He had to clean up the mess afterwards!

8/8/2015 2:38:32 PM Plymouth, MI  
condor_0000
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Quote from nycman530:
7 years ago Trump admired Hillary. Now he despises her. He flip flops on many things. We need to know where he stands.


Where he truly stands is doing whatever is necessary to make billionaires richer. The reason he flipped from being a Democrat to a Republican is only because he sees opportunity for himself to become president as a Republican where it didn't exist as a Democrat. Candidate Trump will tell the morons whatever they want to hear. President Trump will do exactly what Bush and Obama have done. He has no other choice. Capitalism makes all the major the decisions. The super-rich must do what the capitalism beasts demands of them or it will destroy them. And that includes launching WWIII.

8/8/2015 3:15:41 PM Plymouth, MI  
peterk2
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why use this screen name instead of amoralfukr or foulcon, there, condom?



[Edited 8/8/2015 3:16:02 PM ]

8/8/2015 4:22:00 PM Plymouth, MI  
1truuprince
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Quote from nycman530:
Trump really hurt himself by not only his attitude and remarks but by the fact that he was the only one who raised his hand that he wouldn't pledge support for the winner. And I never cared for his flip flopping and pandering. I was more impressed by Carson, Rubio, Fiorina, and Huckabee. And Kasich seemed to have good likeable qualities as well. I can envision Fiorina being a VP candidate. As a woman, she has more to offer than Palin, Bachmann, or Hillary.


I like trump but in a different view but as president i can't say. Being a president is not a business but a serious matter greater then it. I think he a funny guy with sense of humor but again he say some foul stuff that isn't president like. 




On the other hand Is it true he was straight outta bankruptcy 4 times and he inherited his fortune from his father?



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