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8/14/2015 7:30:20 PM  
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When we look around the world today it is abundantly clear that religion is the cause of most of the worlds current wars, a theme that has been repeated throughout history.Within the Muslim faith the Sunni and the Shia seem to be in a perpetual state of war,killing each other indiscriminately.Muslims are also constantly in a state of war with the Jews in Israel,Muslims in various parts of Africa are at war amongst themselves and against all Christians.Wegers in China are in a relatively constant war with mainstream Chinese.Here in the USA people claiming to be Christians are in a constant state of war against many of the policies which our government has enacted into law,this despite the fact most have never entered a church of any kind.The numerous crusades throughout history pitted Christians against Muslims.For something that portends to promote peace and love, the history of religion paints the exact opposite picture.

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8/14/2015 7:32:43 PM New Hope, PA  

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Is it religion that fights wars, or is it governments and bankers, that use religion as their excuse?

8/14/2015 7:35:31 PM New Hope, PA  
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It's both. The bankers use religion as a means to their ends.

8/14/2015 7:35:47 PM New Hope, PA  
61falcon
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I don't think those fighting in Syria or Afghanistan are influenced too much by bankers.

8/14/2015 7:48:31 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from 61falcon:
I don't think those fighting in Syria or Afghanistan are influenced too much by bankers.


The people that send troops there are highly influenced by bankers that invest in weapons of war!

8/14/2015 7:50:47 PM New Hope, PA  

naprinciple
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Quote from 61falcon:
I don't think those fighting in Syria or Afghanistan are influenced too much by bankers.



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Where do you imagine they get their weapons from?

8/14/2015 7:51:44 PM New Hope, PA  

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Not really. Greed and power has caused more wars and more death.

8/14/2015 7:54:10 PM New Hope, PA  

Alahunter70
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What many Progressives and Dems are pushing for, has caused many more deaths than religion the past couple hundred yrs.. which is kinda more relevant.. considering it's more directly influencing us right now..

During the century measured, more people died as a result of communism than from homicide (58 million) and genocide (30 million) put together. The combined death tolls of WWI (37 million) and WWII (66 million) exceed communism’s total by only 9 million.

8/14/2015 7:58:17 PM New Hope, PA  

naprinciple
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It seems the democide totals from the 20th century is about 260 million!




Governments are far better at killing their own citizens than they are at killing "enemies"

8/14/2015 7:58:32 PM New Hope, PA  
61falcon
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ISIS,ISIL got most of their weapons from the USA who armed the Iraqis only to have them drop their weapons and run,they drive American Humvees into battle.

8/14/2015 8:03:20 PM New Hope, PA  
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Lord Of The Rings’ Actor Says What No One Else Will About Islam And Christianity

The West has “lost its moral compass” and sits aimlessly doing nothing as Christianity in Africa and the Middle East is being wiped out, according to Welsh-born actor John Rhys-Davies, who played the dwarf Gimli in the Lord of the Rings movies.

“There is an extraordinary silence in the West,” said Rhys-Davies on Adam Carolla’s podcast posted Monday night. “Basically, Christianity in the Middle East and in Africa is being wiped out — I mean not just ideologically but physically, and people are being enslaved and killed because they are Christians. And your country and my country are doing nothing about it.”

“This is a unique age. We don’t want to be judgmental,” said Rhys-Davies. “Every other age that has come before us has believed exactly the opposite…It’s an age where politicians don’t actually say what they believe. They are afraid of being judged as being partisan. Heaven forbid that we should criticize people who, after all, share a different value system.”

On the podcast, Rhys-Davies mocked what he called the doctrine of political correctness.

“‘But it’s all relevant. It’s all equally relative,” he said mockingly. “We’re all the same. And God and the devil, they’re the same, aren’t they, really? Right and wrong? It’s really just two faces of the same coin,'” he said.

“We have lost our moral compass completely, and, unless we find it, we’re going to lose our civilization. I think we’re going to lose Western European Christian civilization, anyway,” said Rhys-Davies.

Carolla joined in and said American society has become scared to judge others.

“This notion that we’ve evolved into a species that’s incapable of judging other groups and what they’re doing, especially when it’s beheading people or setting people on fire or throwing acid in the face of schoolgirls,” he said.

This is not the first time the actor has spoken his mind. In 2004, Muslim advocacy groups sought to have him removed from the “Lord of the Rings” films after Rhys-Davies gave interviews in which he interpreted author J.R. Tolkien’s story of good versus evil as a metaphor for modern race relations.

“There is a demographic catastrophe happening in Europe that nobody wants to talk about, that we daren’t bring up because we are so cagey about not offending people racially,” Rhys-Davies said in 2004.

“I think that Tolkien says that some generations will be challenged. And if they do not rise to meet that challenge, they will lose their civilization. That does have a real resonance with me,” he added.

“Many do not understand how precarious Western civilization is and what a joy it is,” Rhys-Davies said in 2004. “From it, we get real democracy. From it, we get the sort of intellectual tolerance that allows me to propound something that may be completely alien to you.”


http://www.westernjournalism.com/lord-of-the-rings-actor-says-what-no-one-else-will-about-islam-and-christianity/

8/14/2015 8:04:06 PM New Hope, PA  

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Quote from 61falcon:
ISIS,ISIL got most of their weapons from the USA who armed the Iraqis only to have them drop their weapons and run,they drive American Humvees into battle.


And what "great" American leader has stated that he has no plan whatsoever to deal with ISIS? And then went on to capitulate to another Islamic based Gov't, to give them a fast track to nuclear capability?

8/14/2015 8:08:39 PM New Hope, PA  

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Quote from 61falcon:
ISIS,ISIL got most of their weapons from the USA who armed the Iraqis only to have them drop their weapons and run,they drive American Humvees into battle.


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Don't forget the airdropped weapons too

8/14/2015 8:14:29 PM New Hope, PA  
61falcon
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alahunter clearly you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, Obama has had a request for funding the war against ISIS for months and so far Boehner and the GOP congress have avoided it like the plague.They left on their Summer vacation knowing it was sitting their waiting for a vote. Boehner continues his perfect record of being the least productive congress in our history,the one thing he is good at.

8/14/2015 8:23:46 PM New Hope, PA  

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Obama stated from his own mouth, he had no strategy for ISIS. Then months later, followed it up by saying it was about ideas. He's an idiot and enabler of ISIS and Islamic terrorism.


And you mistake my disgust with Obama with thinking I love the R's in Washington. I loathe Boehner and the vast majority of the Rino's on the Hill. They've capitulated to the damage Obama has inflicted with his policies.



[Edited 8/14/2015 8:24:57 PM ]

8/14/2015 8:26:37 PM New Hope, PA  

naprinciple
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ISIS/ISIL is a creation of the West...... All they need to do to get rid of them is quit funding them.



Ever wonder why Libyan Rebel's Oil tankers were boarded by SEALs and sent back to port, but ISIS/ISIL's Oil makes it to market unmolested?

8/14/2015 9:50:41 PM New Hope, PA  

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Do some research, the book of wars chronicles every conflict recorded in man's history..It takes all the experts, scholars knowledge of the conflicts and tallies up the findings..

94% of all conflicts were Non religious in origin..

8/14/2015 9:54:08 PM New Hope, PA  

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8/14/2015 9:59:07 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from 61falcon:
When we look around the world today it is abundantly clear that religion is the cause of most of the worlds current wars.


communists must destroy religion; nothing must compete with or confront the power of the state


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union


8/14/2015 10:27:33 PM New Hope, PA  

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When we look around the world today it is abundantly clear that religion is the cause of most of the worlds current wars, a theme that has been repeated throughout history.Within the Muslim faith the Sunni and the Shia seem to be in a perpetual state of war,killing each other indiscriminately.Muslims are also constantly in a state of war with the Jews in Israel,Muslims in various parts of Africa are at war amongst themselves and against all Christians.Wegers in China are in a relatively constant war with mainstream Chinese.Here in the USA people claiming to be Christians are in a constant state of war against many of the policies which our government has enacted into law,this despite the fact most have never entered a church of any kind.The numerous crusades throughout history pitted Christians against Muslims.For something that portends to promote peace and love, the history of religion paints the exact opposite picture.


Really falcon?. Homosexual marriages, abortion and equal Right's for the unequal hasn't promoted war?. Isn't it a fact that liberals have repeatedly ignored public opinion?. Has common sense become a religion falcon?.

8/14/2015 10:33:44 PM New Hope, PA  

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I'd posit all wars qualify as religious wars, as belief in government authority is a religion belief

8/14/2015 10:40:11 PM New Hope, PA  

k_tothe_c
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Not only is the title of this thread completely correct, religions are also FALSE.
Every damned one of them is false.

8/15/2015 12:29:06 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from 61falcon:
When we look around the world today it is abundantly clear that religion is the cause of most of the worlds current wars, a theme that has been repeated throughout history.Within the Muslim faith the Sunni and the Shia seem to be in a perpetual state of war,killing each other indiscriminately.Muslims are also constantly in a state of war with the Jews in Israel,Muslims in various parts of Africa are at war amongst themselves and against all Christians.Wegers in China are in a relatively constant war with mainstream Chinese.


bullshit f*gcum alert. He is now comparing wars where hundreds of thousands of people are murdered, to "war" when you don't agree with a corrupt government.

Oddly, f*gcum most of the people here, making "war" are the secular humanists, or liberals. Religious people have jobs and don't have time to protest like liberals do when they go to "war"



Here in the USA people claiming to be Christians are in a constant state of war against many of the policies which our government has enacted into law,this despite the fact most have never entered a church of any kind.


again f*gcum, liberals or secular humanists are the religion that declares war in america and they have actually killed around 40 million people.



The numerous crusades throughout history pitted Christians against Muslims.For something that portends to promote peace and love, the history of religion paints the exact opposite picture.



YES, unlike liberal f*gs real people stand up against murdering thugs, what ever they are.

8/23/2015 7:15:20 PM New Hope, PA  
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Religion if rigid, militant its followers are mere subjects
and their devotion blind.

8/23/2015 7:17:50 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from naprinciple:
Is it religion that fights wars, or is it governments and bankers, that use religion as their excuse?


Religion

8/23/2015 7:19:51 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from naprinciple:
ISIS/ISIL is a creation of the West...... All they need to do to get rid of them is quit funding them.



Ever wonder why Libyan Rebel's Oil tankers were boarded by SEALs and sent back to port, but ISIS/ISIL's Oil makes it to market unmolested?


That was really dumb.

All ot these Islamic groups are founded by the Qur'an and sunnah.

Sure others, including us have used them, but the religion is the founder.

8/23/2015 7:21:51 PM New Hope, PA  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from dwwcat:
Do some research, the book of wars chronicles every conflict recorded in man's history..It takes all the experts, scholars knowledge of the conflicts and tallies up the findings..

94% of all conflicts were Non religious in origin..


Your graph means nothing, as an example, there were about 550 jihads into Europe.

How are these classified.

8/23/2015 7:28:34 PM New Hope, PA  
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generally wars are fought for booty or land.

However when your religion orders you to fight that war, it may not be classified as a religious war in their ratings.

8/23/2015 7:31:04 PM New Hope, PA  

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It is fallacious to blame religion for war. A better term would be ideology.

Behind most wars is a belief that an ideology (whether religious or political) is superior and it must be enforced. Of course, the enforcement of an ideology is often used as a pretext for a land or resource grab.

8/23/2015 7:33:43 PM New Hope, PA  

class5
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Quote from naprinciple:
I'd posit all wars qualify as religious wars, as belief in government authority is a religion belief


Close, but it is not a belief in governmental authority (does that even exist?) but a strict adherence and belief in the superiority of an ideology (whether it be religious, social or political).



[Edited 8/23/2015 7:34:46 PM ]

8/23/2015 7:36:27 PM New Hope, PA  
Yasureoktoo
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It is the ideology, weather that is in the governments teachings, or the religions teachings.

However when you have a religion you are brainwashed into from birth, and the religion declares war on everyone, it pretty much trumps everything.

8/23/2015 7:39:28 PM New Hope, PA  

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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
It is the ideology, weather that is in the governments teachings, or the religions teachings.

However when you have a religion you are brainwashed into from birth, and the religion declares war on everyone, it pretty much trumps everything.


Couldn't that also be said of Nazism and Communism? Isn't the West bringing 'democracy' to peoples who have no experience of such an ideology?

I don't know my friend, I mistrust all of them.




Give a man an ideology and people start dying.

8/23/2015 7:39:40 PM New Hope, PA  

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Quote from 61falcon:
When we look around the world today it is abundantly clear that religion is the cause of most of the worlds current wars, a theme that has been repeated throughout history.Within the Muslim faith the Sunni and the Shia seem to be in a perpetual state of war,killing each other indiscriminately.Muslims are also constantly in a state of war with the Jews in Israel,Muslims in various parts of Africa are at war amongst themselves and against all Christians.Wegers in China are in a relatively constant war with mainstream Chinese.Here in the USA people claiming to be Christians are in a constant state of war against many of the policies which our government has enacted into law,this despite the fact most have never entered a church of any kind.The numerous crusades throughout history pitted Christians against Muslims.For something that portends to promote peace and love, the history of religion paints the exact opposite picture.
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Typical ZioPropaganda.

Put all the blame on Christians and Muslims and IGNORE the Zionist invaders from Russia, Poland, and Germany.

ESPECIALLY ignoring how the unholy book used by the cultural marxists is the WORST example of hate literature in human history.

8/23/2015 7:42:16 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from class5:
Couldn't that also be said of Nazism and Communism? Isn't the West bringing 'democracy' to peoples who have no experience of such an ideology?

I don't know my friend, I mistrust all of them.




Give a man an ideology and people start dying.


Absolutely.

Hitler had his ideology, and preyed on the Christians to follow him through propaganda.
Religion has always been a common denominator for a call to arms, bur here in most cases the religion is manipulated to the masses.

8/23/2015 7:43:25 PM New Hope, PA  
Yasureoktoo
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Islam is different in the way the waring dialect is written into the religion.
Regardless who the leader of the day is, the religion is cast in stone.

8/23/2015 7:45:31 PM New Hope, PA  
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Did I not say the Jews and Muslims are in a constant state of war???Longboobs do you read funny???

8/23/2015 7:46:12 PM New Hope, PA  

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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
Absolutely.

Hitler had his ideology, and preyed on the Christians to follow him through propaganda.
Religion has always been a common denominator for a call to arms, bur here in most cases the religion is manipulated to the masses.


Yes, war propaganda continually emphasises the religious aspect of the conflict.

"With God on our side....we will prevail..." & "Allah Akbar" etc.

8/23/2015 7:46:52 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from 61falcon:
Did I not say the Jews and Muslims are in a constant state of war???Longboobs do you read funny???


Jews and muslims are in a constant state of war, because the religion of Islam demands it.

It is not going away.

8/23/2015 7:48:59 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from class5:
Yes, war propaganda continually emphasises the religious aspect of the conflict.

"With God on our side....we will prevail..." & "Allah Akbar" etc.


A lot of the Christian deeds of evil were orchestrated by the people in charge,
Anyone reading the Christian religion would not go for it in todays world.
years ago the illiterate people were at the mercy of the religious leaders.

8/23/2015 7:52:44 PM New Hope, PA  
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the Christian religion does not order you to go out and rob, rape, and kill people, and anyone trying to present it as such will be condemned by the church.

8/23/2015 7:54:43 PM New Hope, PA  

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Quote from 61falcon:
Did I not say the Jews and Muslims are in a constant state of war???Longboobs do you read funny???
==============================

You only mentioned "Jews" and Israel. The Zionist invaders from Russia, Poland, and Germany are responsible for ALL of the strife which now occurs on a daily basis in the ME.

What you did is called "marginalization".

As you damned well know already.



[Edited 8/23/2015 7:56:04 PM ]

8/23/2015 8:00:59 PM New Hope, PA  

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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
A lot of the Christian deeds of evil were orchestrated by the people in charge,
Anyone reading the Christian religion would not go for it in todays world.
years ago the illiterate people were at the mercy of the religious leaders.


The balance of power shifted after the Renaissance, and the church started to lose its power.

Look at the first Crusade:

1). Islam invades Roman territory in Palestine.

2). Alexios I appeals to western Kings for military aid against the invasion.

3). The Pope sees an opportunity of restoring Palestine to the Christian Church and adds to the appeals from Constantinople.

4). Tancred sees an opportunity to seize wealth and power and heads the Crusade, while ravaging the territory of Alexios I in the process.

5). The peasants followed the landowners with promises of booty and were slaughtered in their thousands.

8/23/2015 8:01:13 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from naprinciple:
Is it religion that fights wars, or is it governments and bankers, that use religion as their excuse?


Nappy, I couldn't help but notice that your pic(a younger version) of you looks alot like Glen Beck in his younger years. are YOU also an alcoholic like Beck? That would sure explain your delusional demeanor.

8/23/2015 8:06:38 PM New Hope, PA  
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yasure are you sure that part of the problem isn't that we and our allies in 1947 suddenly said, Palestine you are gone off the map and puff you are Israel and your land belongs to the Jews???

8/23/2015 8:06:50 PM New Hope, PA  
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The First Crusade began at the behest of Pope Urban II with a fiery speech at the Council of Clermont in southern France. The call of the Crusaders, "Deus le volt," meant "God wills it." The First Crusade is still largely considered a defensive maneuver by Christians -- the Catholic Encyclopedia points to the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in 1009 and Christians being "cruelly persecuted" ever since. There was also concern about the Byzantine Empire losing ground to Muslims and the safety of pilgrims traveling to Jerusalem.

8/23/2015 8:07:28 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
the Christian religion does not order you to go out and rob, rape, and kill people, and anyone trying to present it as such will be condemned by the church.


Yes! the Christian church teaches to turn the other cheek. But it also teaches that a man only has two cheeks. Violence isn't condemned by the church. However is is discouraged. I'd say violence is reserved for the "last resort", then it's fine and dandy. Remember Jesus telling the apostles to sell their garments if need be and get a sword. I'm sure those swords weren't for just gutting fish from the catch of the day.

8/23/2015 8:08:01 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from 61falcon:
yasure are you sure that part of the problem isn't that we and our allies in 1947 suddenly said, Palestine you are gone off the map and puff you are Israel and your land belongs to the Jews???


No, 1947 is well over a thousand years after slam was written.

8/23/2015 8:11:25 PM New Hope, PA  

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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
The First Crusade began at the behest of Pope Urban II with a fiery speech at the Council of Clermont in southern France. The call of the Crusaders, "Deus le volt," meant "God wills it." The First Crusade is still largely considered a defensive maneuver by Christians -- the Catholic Encyclopedia points to the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in 1009 and Christians being "cruelly persecuted" ever since. There was also concern about the Byzantine Empire losing ground to Muslims and the safety of pilgrims traveling to Jerusalem.


It was the appeals from Constantinople (Alexios I) that triggered Urban's speech (see, the Alexiad by Anna Komnene). The Muslims were moving further north through Anatolia at the time (Roman [Byzantine] territory).

Yasueroktoo, I don't use the term 'Byzantine' as the citizens thought of themselves as Romans (not geographically of course, but from a heritage POV).



[Edited 8/23/2015 8:14:27 PM ]

8/23/2015 8:13:07 PM New Hope, PA  
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Quote from hunter12gauge:
Yes! the Christian church teaches to turn the other cheek. But it also teaches that a man only has two cheeks. Violence isn't condemned by the church. However is is discouraged. I'd say violence is reserved for the "last resort", then it's fine and dandy. Remember Jesus telling the apostles to sell their garments if need be and get a sword. I'm sure those swords weren't for just gutting fish from the catch of the day.



Perhaps you can quote that verse, I think I know which one you are speaking of, but it is different than what you are saying.

8/23/2015 8:18:13 PM New Hope, PA  

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Quote from Yasureoktoo:Perhaps you can quote that verse, I think I know which one you are speaking of, but it is different than what you are saying.




Scholars have often commented on the 'twin' natures of Christ. That is the nurturer who loved and believed in noble abstracts, and then there is the Christ 'who brings a sword'.

And of course we get the inevitable notice just as a conversation starts to become interesting:

Too many quotes used recently, blah, blah, blah.

8/23/2015 8:21:02 PM New Hope, PA  
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I'm aware of that one, and the controversy surrounding it, Considering it is the only one of it's nature, and violates the teachings of Christ, it seems there is more to it than was written down.

I asked for the verse because more was added to it.

8/23/2015 8:24:15 PM New Hope, PA  
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The teachings of muhammed however are different in the way it is not one verse that can be questioned or interpreted differently, but rather thousands of verses and an entire storyline, leaving no question as to the intents.

8/23/2015 8:39:17 PM New Hope, PA  

longbobby
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Quote from 61falcon:
yasure are you sure that part of the problem isn't that we and our allies in 1947 suddenly said, Palestine you are gone off the map and puff you are Israel and your land belongs to the Jews???
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"Palestine you are gone off the map and puff you are Israel and your land belongs to the Jews."...

Sure does sound an awful lot like what that UGLY, lesbo dyke, prime minister, Golda Meir once said about the Palestinians.

8/23/2015 9:14:36 PM New Hope, PA  

louie6332
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OP, I notice you left out the religion of Atheism, which is responsible for over a billion murders so far (And you ain't seen nothing yet). And yes, atheism IS a religion. Atheists have no proof that God does not exist, for it is not possible to prove an absolute negative, they take that on faith and faith alone. Atheism IS their faith, their religion. Let me underline that, they take the nonexistence of God on faith, which is the principal tenet of their faith, because no evidence or proof exists that he does not exist.

OP, I notice that you pretend to be a Christian, but post threads that attack religion. I find that curious.

Louie

8/23/2015 9:18:08 PM New Hope, PA  
61falcon
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louie stating an actual fact is not attacking any religion.

8/23/2015 9:20:16 PM New Hope, PA  
Yasureoktoo
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Louie, show us this atheist doctrine so we can evaluate it.

8/23/2015 9:28:23 PM New Hope, PA  
61falcon
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Apologetics and the first cause uncaused is used to defend the existence of a God or religion.

8/23/2015 11:35:24 PM New Hope, PA  
blake6972
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Quote from Alahunter70:
Obama stated from his own mouth, he had no strategy for ISIS. Then months later, followed it up by saying it was about ideas. He's an idiot and enabler of ISIS and Islamic terrorism.


And you mistake my disgust with Obama with thinking I love the R's in Washington. I loathe Boehner and the vast majority of the Rino's on the Hill. They've capitulated to the damage Obama has inflicted with his policies.


Well said my brother, well said.

8/23/2015 11:41:58 PM New Hope, PA  

cubcougar
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Long Bobby is RIGHT !!!

It is a false flag bush shit WMDs and Mushroom clouds.

not real at all ...

not even a f**king terrorist.



Quote from alls_fair:
"He clearly had no firearms training whatsoever," National Guardsman Alek Skarlatos said.

"If he knew what he was doing or even got lucky and did the right thing, he would have been able to operate through all eight of the (ammunition) magazines and we probably wouldn't be here today along with a lot of other people."

http://news.yahoo.com/france-train-gunman-dumbfounded-terrorism-allegations-132517618.html

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A dangerous terrorist that doesn't know what to do with a firearm???

Ummmmmmmmmm...

Put me down for f**king speechless!



8/23/2015 11:50:33 PM New Hope, PA  

class5
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Quote from louie6332:OP, I notice you left out the religion of Atheism, which is responsible for over a billion murders so far (And you ain't seen nothing yet). And yes, atheism IS a religion. Atheists have no proof that God does not exist, for it is not possible to prove an absolute negative, they take that on faith and faith alone. Atheism IS their faith, their religion. Let me underline that, they take the nonexistence of God on faith, which is the principal tenet of their faith, because no evidence or proof exists that he does not exist.

OP, I notice that you pretend to be a Christian, but post threads that attack religion. I find that curious.

Louie





This is just rhetoric. You can't blame Atheism as that is fallacious. Those regimes were pushing another ideology so hard (Communism and Fascism) they needed to 'replace' religion with the political ideology.

It was the political ideology that drove those regimes, not atheism.



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