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10/2/2008 4:59:45 PM	Do atheist have morals?
stormbay Tasmania Australia age: 63	The word "moral" purports to describe something as if it were a fact. Like saying murder is wrong, is the same sort of claim as saying, tar is black. Yet ethical needn't be factual, as sociologically it may be unethical (that is, a breach of a particular code) for doctors to sleep with their patients, but there are circumstances where no one would call it immoral. The word ethics is sometimes used to refer to the set of rules, principles, or ways of thinking that guide, the actions of a particular group; and stands for the reasoning about how we ought to act. Ethics is a field of study, a subject taught in university departments of philosophy. So ethics is choosing principles of conduct as a guiding philosophy. Whilst morals are conforming to an implied standard of supposed right behaviour. The difference is morals are rules and standards that we are told we must conform to, when deciding what is the right behaviour. In other words, morals are dictated to us by either society or religion. Ethics on the other hand, are principles of conduct that you choose to govern your life, as a guiding philosophy that you have chosen for your life. You see ethics practised in the animal kingdom on a daily basis and that's how nature has been able balance life and give opportunity. Whilst you see morals in religious and ideological controls, which dictate rights and wrongs irrelevant to the actuality and suppress opportunity. [Edited 10/2/2008 5:01:42 PM]
10/2/2008 5:08:01 PM	Do atheist have morals?
valion Chicopee, MA age: 56	Yes.
10/2/2008 5:57:59 PM	Do atheist have morals?
ourself Hamilton, ON age: 36	Well, you're still alive for one thing. If you beak off like that in real life and meet someone with no morals, they'd as soon kill you as listen to you prattle on. What do you consider to be an Atheist? Buddha had no gods so would that make Buddha lacking in ethics and morality? If anything, someone who depends on God to tell them what is acceptable behavior and what isn't would be the ones with no morals... That would be why they need them given to them so you really have it backwards in my opinion. It doesn't take a God to figure out that hurting others is wrong. But here you are... A supposed follower of God and you start a thread in an attempt to cause hurt and separation. I know alot of religious people with morals who I gladly call friends but this thread is an example of the ignorance it claims to be against. [Edited 10/2/2008 6:04:04 PM]
10/2/2008 6:05:05 PM	Do atheist have morals?
agentox Hialeah, FL age: 31	"If anything, someone who depends on God to tell them what is acceptable behavior and what isn't would be the ones with no morals... That would be why they need them given to them so you really have it backwards in my opinion." Yes, I disagree. Someone that believes that the author of morality (God) is a constituent to everyone else's freedom of thought on the subject of morality. Interesting. Those darn mindless, religious fools! P.S. We as mankind have absolutely answered the existence of God question, with a resounding...what? We haven't? Are you serious? Fark!
10/2/2008 11:56:48 PM	Do atheist have morals?
serenity0515 Mesquite, TX age: 34	Quote from msgolds: Sabellious... can you please stop wasting our time by posting these close-minded posts? Also... stop claiming to be a Jew. LOL go look at his profile. He's claiming to be Jewish? But he has Christian on his profile and that he is looking for a very Christian lady??? I'm confused here????
10/3/2008 12:01:28 AM	Do atheist have morals?
dj_hollewood Pittsburgh, PA age: 24	Of course they do. You don't have to be religious to believe that murder or even simply capital punishment are just plain wrong. That's part of just being human.
10/3/2008 12:06:45 AM	Do atheist have morals?
r_7 Sanford, FL age: 45	Atheism is relativistic and amoral by its very nature! Atheists will try to deny it-But can not- lol!
10/3/2008 1:39:07 AM	Do atheist have morals?
stormbay Tasmania Australia age: 63	”Atheism is relativistic and amoral by its very nature! Atheists will try to deny it-But can not- ” Why would any sensible person deny being amoral, after all morals are a religious ideological concepts, not realistic but controlling. Being amoral is in being able to accept various approaches to life, as long as they don't impede upon your ethics. When you say, atheists are relativistic, are you saying, they are travelling at nearly the speed of light, and obeying the special laws of behaviour that apply at such speeds. You do know an object becomes relativistic, when the energy of its motion (kinetic energy ) approaches light speed and is subject to the special or the general theory of relativity, which is related to relativistic quantum mechanics. Maybe you mean the relativistic increase in mass or your relating to the philosophical doctrine of relativism. Could you define what you mean. Now I don't believe atheists think they are approaching light speed, so maybe you relating them to William Perry's model of intellectual development, which is considered to be relative and situational. Meaning, relativistic learners critically reflect on multiple perspectives and determine the most suitable answer in a particular situation. They do this by using related concepts, deep level processing and, critical thinking. That approach seems quite logical and rational to me, but I note you have a habit of bashing your head into a brick wall, is your confusion that bad. Maybe more medication will help. [Edited 10/3/2008 1:41:19 AM]
10/3/2008 3:16:33 AM	Do atheist have morals?
marlopainter Milwaukee, WI age: 29	Atheism, as an explicit position, can be either the affirmation of the nonexistence of gods, or the rejection of theism. It is also defined more broadly as synonymous with any form of nontheism, including the simple absence of belief in deities. Many self-described atheists are skeptical of all supernatural beings and cite a lack of empirical evidence for the existence of deities. Others argue for atheism on philosophical, social or historical grounds. Although many self-described atheists tend toward secular philosophies such as humanism and naturalism, there is no one ideology or set of behaviors to which all atheists adhere; and some religions, such as Jainism and Buddhism, do not require belief in a personal god. The term atheism originated as a pejorative epithet applied to any person or belief in conflict with established religion. With the spread of free thought, scientific skepticism, and criticism of religion, the term began to gather a more specific meaning and has been increasingly used as a self-description by atheists. As the strictest sense of positive atheism does not entail any specific beliefs outside of disbelief in any deity, atheists can hold any number of spiritual beliefs. For the same reason, atheists can hold a wide variety of ethical beliefs, ranging from the moral universalism of humanism, which holds that a moral code should be applied consistently to all humans, to moral nihilism, which holds that morality is meaningless. Some philosophers, however, have equated atheism with immorality, arguing that morality must be derived from God and cannot exist without a wise creator. Moral precepts such as "murder is wrong" are seen as divine laws, requiring a divine lawmaker and judge. However, many atheists argue that treating morality legalistically involves a false analogy, and that morality does not depend on a lawmaker in the same way that laws do, based on the Euthyphro dilemma, which either renders God unnecessary or morality arbitrary. Philosophers Susan Neiman and Julian Baggini (among others) assert that behaving ethically only because of divine mandate is not true ethical behavior but merely blind obedience. Baggini argues that atheism is a superior basis for ethics, claiming that a moral basis external to religious imperatives is necessary to evaluate the morality of the imperatives themselves—to be able to discern, for example, that "thou shalt steal" is immoral even if one's religion instructs it—and that atheists, therefore, have the advantage of being more inclined to make such evaluations.
10/3/2008 3:53:33 AM	Do atheist have morals?
forever4 Victoria Australia age: 47	yes atheist people do have morals unlike the church people they do not beleive in molestation of any sortyes we have morals
10/3/2008 6:37:12 AM	Do atheist have morals?
r_7 Sanford, FL age: 45	Quote from forever4: yes atheist people do have morals unlike the church people they do not beleive in molestation of any sortyes we have morals You FIRST need to learn what MORALITY IS. Then try to comment on it. MORALITY right now is beyond your understanding. Its implications are beyond you.-not to speak of the scathological results of the lack thereof. But by all means-in fairness-Do try to explain to us what morality is in the abstract, with all the Philosophical consequences in human existence. Please do! Thank you in advance. Suggest you at least consult wikipedia! lol.
10/3/2008 6:57:13 AM	Do atheist have morals?
sabellious Wrens, GA age: 43	Again i do appreciate all of the post, everyone of the atheist are trying real hard to convince us that they have morals. I have to give them grade level of ''C'' for effort. Yet asking an atheist if they have morals, is like asking a dog if they like Alpo. One can train a dog or any other kind of domestic animal to do tricks like to bark when asked a question, yet are they moral decisions that the animal makes. No the animal reacts to instincts,knowing that it will get an award, so just like the atheist species they react by pure instinct. Most atheist do not think in rational terms and they are unmoral.I do have hope for the atheist ,maybe one day they can be domesticated. Right now the only thing that we can do for an atheist is be kind to them like all other animals.Lets try to make sure that they are caught up on their shots. Report anyone, who may abuse a poor helpless atheist, to the humane society. Ok lets try this again. Atheist convince us that yall animals know right from wrong. [Edited 10/3/2008 6:59:55 AM]
10/3/2008 7:49:28 AM	Do atheist have morals?
ourself Hamilton, ON age: 36	Are you afraid to address my comment there, O/P? I'll restate. If anything, someone who depends on God to tell them what is acceptable behavior and what isn't would be the ones with no morals... That would be why they need them given to them so you really have it backwards in my opinion. Now, you claim Atheists have no morals but you are showing us all that your morals are very lacking. Now, are you going anywhere with this retarded thread or are you just going to ignore us all and hide behind childish insults? I won't hold my breath for anything of substance.
10/3/2008 9:08:07 AM	Do atheist have morals?
denguefever Nabq Egypt age: 41	Define morals. If we know what your idea of morals are, then we can see if we reach them.
10/3/2008 1:17:12 PM	Do atheist have morals?
sabellious Wrens, GA age: 43	Oh the caveman has come calling.Morals are something that humanity has.It is the ability to rationalize between right and wrong. I have never met an atheist yet that can make rational differences between what is right and what is wrong.Now dengue fever with you being of a species that is just a little more superior than a Gorilla and less than a chimp. You can try to explain why you think you have morals. Dengue fever tell me what makes you higher than any other beast of the field that functions off of instinct. Yes dengue fever you may be able to tie your shoes and comb your hair.You may be even able to feed yourself. Yes you can talk Yet a well train chimp can be taught this. They can be taught to communicate through sign language.Yet the great apes even though they are much superior to yall atheist, atleast they can realize that there are other species who are greater or superior that they are. Only humanity has been given, the gift of knowing the difference between right and wrong. Atheist is a subspecies of humanity, somewhere between apes and humanity. Rationaliztion is the only thing that an atheist cannot grasp. Again atheist do not have any morals.All atheist operate from basic animal instinct, nothing more and nothing less. I say to love all animals, I say be kind to atheist.Yall dont know any better just being brute beast.Yall have the ability to love and feel pain yet all animals have this same ability. Yet in finishing, I am very sorry but when it comes to knowing the difference between right and wrong , all of you poor animals have been left out. I do hope that all will show kindness to atheist and will call the human society when one is hurt or abused.Let us mak esure that all atheist are caught up on their shots Let us all learn to be kind to all animals even the atheist. [Edited 10/3/2008 1:23:07 PM]

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