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Somebody you know Clearview? It wouldn't benefit me to block you or anyone else unless and only unless he/she made a personal attack. However, I am on the blocked list of everyone in your clique. If you wanted to make a valid claim that I was actually blocking someone from posting to this thread then you would first recognize that the same individuals that post degrading and racists remarks have done so since the conception of this thread and continue to do so to date. So put your shared brain together with your clique and come up with another accusation. Hurry though, Black History Month is nearing the end. No need to block you, you are doing a fine job contradicting yourself. Have an Awesome Day!!!



You'll have to settle for this.
Love, Peace and Soul my sister



2/14/2009 1:11:06 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

david_duke
Calhoun, LA
age: 39


true but why were black panthers standing out in front of the election polls threating white people during obamanations election?this is about black history asswhip not white history,get a life liberal




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2/14/2009 3:58:36 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Quote from crazyhorse327:
heres some more black history for you.how about the poor jena six,where six black students attacted a lone white kid because somebody else hung a noose from a tree on campus.did the noose hurt them,no!did this kid they almost beat to death have anything to do with it,NO!why did it take six of them to beat up one person?micahal bell who should have already graduated but was so stupid that the only thing he could get by on was football and was being tried as a adult was singled out as the ring leader behind this brutal attack.jesse jackson and al sharpton,,well known racists,came to his rescue and got him out of it.since then bell has moved to monroe,la,where he robed a store and because he got cought,shot himself in the shoulder,,,to bad he didnt aim higher,,,when intervied and asked if he had any regretes about the robberey and about beating a inocent person,all he had to say was all the fault of thows that had prayed for him and was mad because he couldnt play football anymore
Your thoughts are really off the map. you have a narrow-minded views of things and you support your thoughts with more misleadings. Black men do have a gift of athleticism, There is nothing wrong with getting paid do what you enjoy doing and if that means a pro football basketball golf player then more power to them. The sight of the noose alone is intimidation considered a terroristic threat here, when people started hanging them out here at a construction site and then a bus transporation co.,those incidents were treated very seriously and not to be downplayed. I think the intent (not supporting fighting) when several men fight a lone kid is the degree that they are trying to inflict pain not the subject itself. An impact of 4 beating on one is greater. Anger drove them to this. Sometimes we seek revenge before justice. That is a human weakness not a racial one. Again I support the work of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They are active confrontational and people don't like that but they get things done. They have similiar roles as detectives or lawyers in a sense that they seek facts, justice and demand rights. As a stated to Widow in an earlier thread is hard to find a way to like someone if you haven't lived as a black person. If it was up to a few people on DHU all activist, support agencies, advocacy groups would be eliminated. In a time of crisis some people cannot think or think clearly and I would feel assured knowing I could count on the support of these men and agencies. Widow, I don't see what your video has to do with anything.Everyone under the sun knows you dont like our President but this isn't the thread for that there are plenty of threads here with Obama bashing going on. I think you would be more comfortable there. DD, There was an arrest last month of 3 white men then another 1 white man following an investigation for intimidating black voters. It isn't okay for anyone to ever do this. I expecting everyone to be spreading love while I was away.



[Edited 2/14/2009 4:03:46 AM ]

2/14/2009 4:21:35 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
sapphireblue579
Over 2,000 Posts (2,240)
Jackson, MI
age: 52


Areallady...The world is messed up. And we are ALL to blame. I understand what the former poster's intent was. And it's not really so bad. They are railing against INJUSTICE...in the present day, not yesterday. INjustice is INjustice...no matter what the face is. And so I understand.

When I attempt to understand another person's position or struggle...I try to imagine myself in their place. When I took care of the severely retarded, as an example, I imagined how I would feel and what I would do if this creation of God were my child, my parent or my sister or brother. In other words...I brought it down to the get down. And when you can SEE in that way....such enormous LOVE explodes your very being...that all else falls away...and what you have left is only REAL.

So....this thread is on a particular Race of Man. There are so many that are worthy...in fact...ALL OF THEM ARE. But I do give honor and place and credit, to those who have risen above all adversity. And have proven themselves remarkable in God's sight, as well as Man's. Kudos baby!

(Against all odds! Join the club! You paid your dues.)

2/14/2009 5:15:20 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Quote from areallady1:


HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY
Below are a list of some poets. I know there are so many more great poets who have written lovely poems Would you like to share a song or poem today in observance of Valentine’s day? (Good taste please and it doesn’t have to be about love)


Maya Angelou
Imamu Amiri Baraka


Langston Hughes
Anthony Ai
Paul Laurence Dunbar


Alice Walker
Cornelius Eady
Jessie Redmon Fauset
Forrest Hamer
Yuesf Komunyakaa
Audre Lorde

Natasha Trethewey
James Weldon Johnson
Gwendolyn Brooks
Arna Bontemps
Countee Cullen
Rita Dove
James A Emanuel
Nikki Giovanni
Robert Hayden
Jupiter Hammon
Etheridge Knight
Claude McKay
Wanda Phipps
Quincy Troupe
Phyllis Wheatley

Those school days, of telling tales and biting nails are gone,
But in my mind,
I know they will still live on and on,
But how do you thank someone, who has taken you from crayons to perfume?
It isn’t easy, but I’ll try,
If you wanted the sky I would write across the sky in letters,
That would soar a thousand feet high ,
To Sir, with Love
The time has come,
For closing books and long last looks must end,
And as I leave,
I know that I am leaving my best friend,
A friend who taught me right from wrong,
And weak from strong
That’s not a lot to learn,
What, what can I give you in return?
If you wanted the moon I would try to make a start,
But I, would rather you let me give my heart,
To Sir, with Love

Lu Lu




[Edited 2/14/2009 5:16:42 AM ]

2/14/2009 5:23:59 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
sapphireblue579
Over 2,000 Posts (2,240)
Jackson, MI
age: 52


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[Edited 2/14/2009 5:25:57 AM ]

2/14/2009 6:28:06 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
eightinchbend
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,188)
Gadsden, AL
age: 46


This thread was created to acknowledge positive contributions of blacks in various aspects of American life that have helped to build the history of the United States which ultimately helped to build the history of the world. Many posters to this thread have participated accordingly. Others have expressed the appreciation for the opportunity to learn something they never knew previously. Then, there are those who disagree with the practice of observing Black History Month to the point of creating a separate thread that acts as a platform to protest it. At least they had enough respect to express their oppositions among themselves outside of this thread topic.

However, there is no question in my mind that there are a few whites who have taken things beyond a mere disagreement with celbrating Black History Month. The repulsive things they have said about black people indicate they have made personal choices to focus on the negative aspects that are undoubtedly a fact of life for African-Americans. They appear to believe that a few bad apples spoil the entire bunch. They also want to project the notion that blacks are "just as bad" as whites, but that's what they resort to in order to feel some measure of justification for their own degrading expressions. As much as their words offend me, I don't let them define who I am. At the same time, I don't let their words represent the views of all white people.....and they would be foolish to think that they are in fact representatives of "The White Majority." If they are angry at how diverse, multi-cultural, and multi-racial the world has become, then they are going to have the most difficult time living in it because there is nothing they can do to stop it. If they are disappointed that more whites are not in this thread expressing similar views, then they need to find another thread, or another Website that will satisfy them. They can say all they want to.....here, another site, or to my face. None of it stands in the way of doing what I need or desire to accomplish for myself. None of it is going to make me feel badly about myself, and none of it is going to make me have hatred within myself.

2/14/2009 7:41:43 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
illude
Berwyn, IL
age: 65


As a white I have said it before and will say it again. Black history is very important and must be understood by all. It is our history and not the exclusive domain of African Americans. This is why we have Black History Month - to bring attention to what for many years was almost totally ignored. I watched an excellent program on PBS the other hight featuring an African American in his looking for the truth about how Abraham Lincoln really felt about African Americans. We all know he was always opposed to slavery. This PBS documentary points out that Lincoln's acceptance of slaves being molded into white society was a gradual process that took some time. It also well reported the politics of the times that Lincoln lived in. The message of this documentary is it gave this African American a deeper appreciation of Lincoln and by his objectivity in presenting many points-of-view strengthen my own belief in how great a man Abraham Lincoln truly was that was far ahead of his time. If only our government and biased press could report information to us as did this African American we would all be the better off for it.

2/14/2009 8:25:40 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
clearview1
Albany, OH
age: 40


Frederick Douglass and Booker T. Washington, generally had white ancestors in the paternal line.

For a couple of years, I’ve been pointing out that because African-American culture has become so narrow and inward-looking, it’s now having a harder time producing high achievers outside of Officially Black fields such as basketball, football, and some forms of entertainment. Thus, the black race is increasingly represented at the top of many categories by half-black individuals.

Barack Obama is only the most obvious example of the rise of this New Mulatto Elite.

2/14/2009 8:46:55 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

bones01
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,611)
Orange, CA
age: 61


Real Lady, Thanks, I enjoyed all that is positive in this thread.

2/14/2009 8:49:43 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
monty_python
Over 2,000 Posts (3,759)
Bridgeport, CT
age: 56


Quote from david_duke:
true but why were black panthers standing out in front of the election polls threating white people during obamanations election?this is about black history asswhip not white history,get a life liberal


Nothing like a narrow mind to miss the point.

2/14/2009 8:59:18 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

osoroho
Over 1,000 Posts (1,201)
Mesquite, TX
age: 60


Monty didnt understand your last statement??? What are you saying...

2/14/2009 9:10:58 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
eightinchbend
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,188)
Gadsden, AL
age: 46


Quote from osoroho:
Monty didnt understand your last statement??? What are you saying...



Hey Osoroho,

Monty was referring to the comment at the top of Page 17.

2/14/2009 9:17:01 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

osoroho
Over 1,000 Posts (1,201)
Mesquite, TX
age: 60


I dont care who it would be.. If some one was attempting to threaten some one at a voteing place they need to be in prison... It doesnt matter what color or party.. That is very wrong!!!!!

2/14/2009 10:29:08 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
dominicross
Saint Charles, IL
age: 50


Black History Month: Old Black America


If you set aside a separate holiday for Black History Month in the public schools,


if you set aside separate graduation ceremonies,


college dorms,


academic departments,


recruiting programs,


and government contracts


and subcontracts by race,


you send a message that hardcore racial separatism is not only acceptable—but desired.

2/14/2009 10:35:21 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
eightinchbend
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,188)
Gadsden, AL
age: 46


Quote from david_duke:
true but why were black panthers standing out in front of the election polls threating white people during obamanations election?this is about black history asswhip not white history,get a life liberal



The Irish did the same thing in Five Points New York during the days of Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall.....white history, but....WTF does it matter? No one should be "keeping score" of what bad things blacks did, or the bad things whites did in the world of politics because you will die trying to see who stands out as the greatest compromisers of the voting process.

2/14/2009 11:26:24 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
markd61
Wilmington, NC
age: 49


A Categorized World-A Jauntilating Society
Music From Our Lips Confirmating Variety
Human Popularity-Fits Behind Glass So Well
Changing Times Adapt To Tell-Stories
Describing The History That Was Placed Before Me
Intelligence Being Insulted Through Sarcasm-Irony
Enraging Thoughts-Fashion Manipulated-Now
Our Minds Are Bought Children Are To Learn
That Have Never Been Taught-Concentrating
On Inventions-Instead Of The Now-Dimensions
Crossed Over-Painting The Town-World Poverty
Claims That It’s Here-Yet A Flat Screen T.V. And A
Two Hundred Disc DVD[player0 Should Be Near
Selfish Acts Of Life Itself-Bring Defeat Upon Ourselves Read What’s Been Placed On Our Shelves-For Knowledge Is A Gift TO Tell-Take
And Then Take Some More
Throw Our Society’s Heart Out The Door
Living Is Breathing-But Then Comes Death-Captured Last Breaths-And Words Last Said-Taunting My Closed Eyes As Burning Tears Are Shed….
H. Washington A.K A. “L”


Love and Peace
This is a pretty lady. She is one of the many half black half white party this or partly the other. There wont be a new Mullatto race if you think. Kids choose race they identify with. I know a white bright lady who was raised up by her black dad and grandma she chose black for her race. What you are trying to say is wrong. why would you try to call anybody elite?



[Edited 2/14/2009 11:48:22 AM ]

2/14/2009 1:06:17 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

david_duke
Calhoun, LA
age: 39


what about neworleans after katrina,with black gang bangers shooting at rescue workers,i suppose want to be alady thinks that was a human reaction too.hatered is hatered and for someone to say that blacks arnt capable of it is sure denial and stupidity at its greatest hight

2/14/2009 2:24:48 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

ylekiot
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,359)
Stateline, NV
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2/14/2009 2:38:36 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
sapphireblue579
Over 2,000 Posts (2,240)
Jackson, MI
age: 52


Chaka Khan...



2/14/2009 3:31:39 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Quote from david_duke:
im capable of denial and stupidity at its greatest hight
Stick to the topic. We can do without your personal attacks that only refect nothing more than ignorance. If you are in seek of an adult communication regarding your concerns you will need to first learn to respectfully address individuals. Have a Great Evening!

2/14/2009 3:50:43 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Quote from ylekiot:

It's much funnier with the entire scene attached....
Watch this one:


2/15/2009 12:53:26 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
searching4him1
Frederick, MD
age: 48




2/15/2009 1:02:39 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

soulcitywalker
Over 2,000 Posts (3,761)
Lexington, KY
age: 51


dominic: If you set aside a separate holiday for Black History Month in the public schools,

SCW: How come you haven't put forth the same argument against teaching ONLY white history in the schools?!

You all have allowed the teaching of white history to be taught the entire school year.
But once African-/Asian-/Latino- and Native-"Americans" request that their contributions be included, you start running your mouths.

2/15/2009 8:24:18 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
clearview1
Albany, OH
age: 40


Mr Souless in the City:

Black history is already taught in the school systems. Black History Month is a pointless exercise, rooted in two fallacies.

1. The first is that self-esteem is a prerequisite for learning. Evidence is always fuzzy on such reasoning, but, according to former assistant U.S. Education secretary Chester E. Finn, African-American children, when compared to their white counterparts, report ''slightly higher levels of agreement with statements about taking a positive attitude toward oneself, judging oneself to be a person 'of worth,' and being generally satisfied with oneself.'' In other words, black students already show signs of marginally higher self-esteem than white students.

2. The second fallacy is more basic and more insidious: that children's ambitions are circumscribed by the accomplishments of the people they most closely resemble. The implication is that an architectural design by Frank Lloyd Wright, a white man from Wisconsin, cannot inspire a black child to study architecture. It's a ridiculous, racist thought.

Black History Month's distortions are more about adults' hearts than children's minds. They're about the fear that if we define history as a record of military conflict, scientific advance, social movements, speculative thought and artistic endeavor (and what is the sensible alternative?), there's comparatively little black history to report -- at least not until the last 500 years, when black history becomes a record of blacks being grotesquely exploited by Europeans, Americans and Arabs.

As anthropologists and geneticists are quick to point out, the notion of ''race'' is itself so problematic -- variations among populations are subtle and continuous from one region to another -- as to render the proposition that one race is in any way inferior to another meaningless. Still, the belief that dark-skinned people were categorically inferior to lighter-skinned people was so widely held for so long that even now many of us, black and white, don't quite trust the experts who assure us of its falsehood.

So we seize upon instances of black achievement, the pained eloquence of Langston Hughes, the quiet dignity of Rosa Parks, and we clutch them to our hearts, inflating their accomplishments way out of proportion and in so doing ultimately diminishing them. As noble a spirit as Tubman was, she probably didn't contribute as much to the emancipation of American slaves as Harriet Beecher Stowe, who wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin. To compare her contribution to Lincoln's is absurd.

In the final analysis, the very concept of ''black history'' is just a slightly more benign cousin of ''Jewish science.'' Both are ultimately futile attempts to cordon off a zone of the human experience according to the dubious category of race. Whatever the motives, such classifications are acts of will, not intellect.

Ok, Areallady---you can block me now, just like you have every other person online who does not agree with you.



[Edited 2/15/2009 8:27:26 AM ]

2/15/2009 8:39:30 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Here are some remarkable ways that slaves communicated:
Through songs:
Drinkin’ Gourd is another name for the Big Dipper asterism.
Folklore has it that slaves in the United States use to use it as a point of reference so they would not get lost. The asterism is laid out in such a way that it is always seen in the north sky. Two of the stars line directly up with Polaris. Hence, according to a popular myth, all slaves had to do was look for the Drinkin’ Gourd and follow it north to freedom. The name drinking gourd is based upon the shape resemblance of the constellation to a dipper.
Words to song:
When the sun come back and the first quail calls,
Follow the Drinkin Gourd
For the old man’s waitin’ for to carry you to freedom
If you follow the Drinkin’ Gourd.




Wade In The Water
Harriet Tubman sang this spiritual as a warning to runaway slaves. To escaping slaves, the song told them to abandon the path and move into the water. By traveling along the water’s edge or across a body of water, the slaves would throw chasing dogs and their keepers off the scent.


Communication through quilts
When the slaves communicated secretly, they often used quilts. They had many different paterns,each with its own secret meaning. Parents taught their children the meanings by using a sampler quilt made up of all the patterns used for secret messages:


Flying Geese, told the slaves which direction to travel.

The Wagon Wheel. It meant that you needed to get your things together for the journey.

The Tumbling Blocks told them to pack up their belongings. The number of blocks on the quiilt equaled how many days until they escaped.


Log Cabin: It meant that the occupants of that house were taking slaves. These people, who were mostly freed blacks and some whites, gave the slave clothes.

The North Star It meant to follow the North Star to freedom. The slaves always traveled north to get to freedom.


Crossroads indicated a major city or stop along the Underground Railroad. Once the slaves were out of the mountains, any quilts hung would direct slaves to major crossroads. From the crossroads, new patterns would give further directions to other cities. The main crossroad was Cleveland, Ohio.



Monkey Wrench It meant that slaves were to get tools together that might be needed on their journey to freedom. Tools included items such as something to build shelter with, .compasses for determining which direction to travel in, and tools to serve as their weapons. Thos should also mean to pack clothes or food.

Shoofly There is very little known about this pattern. It is believed that Shoofly refers to an actual person who might have aides escaping slaves. Harriet Tubman may have been called “Shoofly.”

2/15/2009 8:40:36 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Continued

Drunkards Path this was a warning for the slaves to go in a staggered path through the woods. This meant that the slaves should not go in a straight line, but go in different directions to get to their destination



Bears Paw It was believed that this pattern was sometimes used to help slaves follow the path of the bear and to identify landmarks on the edge of the plantation.


Bow Ties: This meant that someone was going to bring a change of clothes tot the escaping slaves. The slaves would have clothes that were tattered and torn. The slaves would now fit in with the free Blacks in the north, because of their newer looking clothes.



Students narrate Songs of Slavery



2/15/2009 8:57:59 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
markd61
Wilmington, NC
age: 49


Quote from clearview1:
In the devolved mindset of modern American thinking, the world is divided into black and white, but there is room for the hue of gray.

Is it not better for us to allow for—and embrace—diversity and complexity? In fact, is this not one of our highest duties as sentient beings? If so, should we not be willing to admit that when we confront situations that are beyond the scope of our understanding, we may be in need of more discerning minds? Alas, I’m afraid, the human ego knows no bounds!

The most intriguing thing about the speech Mr. Obama gave at he National Constitution Center, near the statues of the founding fathers who signed the document declaring that “all men are created equal,” was not even the part about black and white. It was the new color that Obama unexpectedly wore: gray.

Gray is a welcome relief from black and white.
The black and white fighting must end.

Quote from clearview1:
SCW should be blocked. Besides that he ain't white.


2/15/2009 10:41:42 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


2/15/2009 8:02:31 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
dominicross
Saint Charles, IL
age: 50


Thank goodness February is a short month.

2/15/2009 8:30:19 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

layla22
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (52,512)
Peoria, IL
age: 56


areal, had a minute and looked up the name of the black physician i referred to earlier on either this thread or the one which was locked.

it was dr. charles richard drew.

he invented the first blood bank, in 1940, which greatly assisted civilian medical care and also care for wounded military in ww ii.

prior to that, he developed the first process for preserving blood plasma, in 1938.

2/16/2009 7:15:18 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
eightinchbend
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,188)
Gadsden, AL
age: 46


Quote from dominicross:
Thank goodness February is a short month.


But the history remains constant.

2/16/2009 8:40:01 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD

The Underground Railroad, a vast network of people who helped fugitive slaves escape to the North and to Canada, was not run by any since organization or person. Rather, it consisted of many individuals --many whites but predominantly black--who knew only of the local efforts to aid fugitives and not of the overall operation.
Still, it effectively moved hundreds of slaves northward each year--according to one estimate, the South lost 100,000 slaves between 1810 and 1850.
An organized system to assist runaway slaves seems to have begun towards the end of the 18th century. In 1786 George Washington complained about how one of his runaway slaves was helped by a “society of Quakers, formed for such purposes.” The system grew, and around 1831 it was dubbed “The Underground Railroad,” after the then emerging steam railroads.

The system even used terms used in railroading: the homes and businesses where fugitive would rest and eat were called “stations” and “depots” and were run by “stationmasters”, those who contributed money or gods were “stockholders,” and the conductor” was responsible for moving fugitives from one station to the next.
For the slave, running away to the North was anything but easy. The first step was to escape from the slaveholder. For many slaves, this meant relying on his or her own resources. Sometimes a conductor posing as a slave would enter a plantation and then guide the runways northward. The fugitives would move at night. They would generally travel between 10 and 20 miles to the next station, where they would rest and eat, hiding in barns and other out-of-the-way places. While they waited a message would be sent to the next station to alert its stationmaster.
The fugitives would also travel by train and boat--conveyances that sometimes had to be paid for. Monet was also needed to improve the appearance of the runaways being that the tattered clothing would attract attention. The money was donated by individuals and also raised by various groups, including vigilance committees.
Vigilance committees sprang up in the larger towns and cities of the North, most prominently in New York, Philadelphia, and Boston. In addition to soliciting money the organizations provided food, lodging and money, and helped the fugitives settle into a community by helping them find their jobs and providing letters of recommendation,
The Underground Railroad had many notable participants, including John Fairfield in Ohio, the son of a slaveholding family, who made many daring rescues, Levi Coffin, a Quaker who assisted more then 3,000 slaves, and Harriet Tubman, who made 19 trips into the South and escorted over 300 slaves to freedom.







Red marked area is general directions of escape
Olive is Free State-slavery prohibited
Evergreen is Slave state-slavery permitted
Amber Territories where slavery permitted by local decision
Harriet Tubman

The Coffins




[Edited 2/16/2009 8:42:54 AM ]

2/16/2009 8:41:34 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


UNDERGROUND RAILROAD Continued




2/16/2009 7:24:01 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
pahoalookout
Dearborn, MI
age: 70 online now!


Good movie on HBO, Tuesday at 10:30 AM. "Something The Lord Made" staring Alan Rickman. An African American lab assistant, because of his superior knowledge of the heart's anatomy, helps a heart surgeon develop new procedures. Either base on or is a true story. *** Three stars. Worth the watch.

2/16/2009 8:09:26 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

crazyhorse327
Columbia, LA
age: 48


Quote from areallady1:
Stick to the topic. We can do without your personal attacks that only refect nothing more than ignorance. If you are in seek of an adult communication regarding your concerns you will need to first learn to respectfully address individuals. Have a Great Evening!
seems your the type of person who thinks two wrongs make a right.i thought the subject was black history,didnt here you say what kind?you cant have the good without the bad as your so found of pointing out about white history.if you think im a raceist,you need to look at yourself first because every white person that comes on here and you dont agree with thier views,thats what you label them as.you portray yourself in everyway as a black person who hates white people because its all about being black and nothing else

2/16/2009 8:14:58 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
in_doubtalishis
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,777)
Beaumont, CA
age: 35


Crazy why dont you quit the yappin and let the education continue. I just did a paper on the under ground railroad last semester. It was wonderful that people were strong enough to put their life on the line to help others. Too many people once freed from any situation will run and never look back. But so many people here risked their life day in and day out and even had bounties on theor heads and faced death right in the face, but they went to help others. Now that is courage and strength. Thanks for trying to teach so many and putting in so much effort. Sorry you are continually met with this hate. It is a shame.

2/16/2009 8:20:45 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
in_doubtalishis
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,777)
Beaumont, CA
age: 35


Im so lucky I found my paper. Here it is







December 16, 2008
History 111-4126
Final Paper Assignment


There are people in this world who are sayers and then there are those who are doers. It is the people who have great ideas and actually fulfill them that make a difference. They act upon them and use them to make a statement in this world. They stand up for causes and rights of everyone. It is these people who make this world such a wonderful place.

Anyone can have a great idea, but it is the people who actually take these ideas and are heroic enough to make a statement and put their foot down and speak against wrongdoings in the name of humanity. They are the ones who stand up and yell NO More! We will not take this anymore. It is not right and we must do what we can to get people to understand that as human beings we all have rights. It is inhumane to treat anyone otherwise or believe that certain people just because of color or just because of status have totally opposite polar rights.
Everyone who breathes has a right to live a life unharmed by any man. A life of peace and happiness. The right to explore the world without borders. We deserve a life unharmed by others. It is a right as a human being that you deserve. Call it a birth right. Because you are born, is right enough to be treated equally. We all equally inhabit this planet.

I came across people throughout history who made a difference. They cared enough to stand up for their rights and their beliefs. They at times risked their lives to help other people. Those are the true heroes. They take risks to save people from harmful treatment. They might even be called angels to some people. They stood against the oppression and fought it hard. They used the right to voice their opinions and they voiced them, strongly.

With power, With dignity, With tolerance.

Harriet Tubman is one of those people. She was born in 1820 to parents Harriet Rit Green and Benjamin Ross of Dorchester County, Maryland. In my research I have found that there is actually conflicts in the year she was born, but it is between 1820-1822. Harriet‘s birth name is Araminta Harriet Tubman. She was born into a life of slavery. It was a difficult life and it had effects that left a standing impression in her heart and on the world. She would not only change people lives, but she would risk her life to save them.

Harriets experience with slavery left her with lasting painful effects when she was hit in the head by an iron weight that was thrown at a fleeing slave. This almost killed her, but she had a reason to live. She had a purpose in life. Though she would suffer headaches, seizures, and sleeping spells, she set out on a mission to save slaves from the brutal lives they were forced to live. Harriet Tubman set out to make the greatest use of her life and in doing so she saved over 300 slaves and made a statement to the world.
In 1849 Harriet feared being sold and decided she was going to run away. What a risk to take. Imagine being in a world where there were only a handful of people around to help you escape such an atrocity. It is like taking the world on alone. Harriet was so brave to take on such a task. But this escape was minute compared to the bravery Harriet would bestow upon the world through her lifetime. Harriet escaped from the South using the North star as her guide. She escaped to Philadelphia where she found work and saved money to return and help her family escape.

This was the beginning of Harriets rescues. After saving her family from slavery, Harriet continued to follow the North star for years to come. For the next 10 years Harriet would successfully complete 19 trips to the South to free her fellow slaves. She personally escorted around 300 slaves to freedom. This was not an easy task and was very dangerous. Harriet risked death each trip. Saving slaves was not looked well upon, but Harriet found the Underground Railroad which she became a part of and which became a major tool in helping Harriet on her mission.

Harriet always had to think of new techniques and alternate escape routes so that she could free the slaves safely. Because the slaves of the North were free, escaping became more popular. Slaves were trying to get to the North to live a free life. The slaves already in the North made it their mission to help. Because of their tireless efforts in helping free slaves a law came about in 1850. This was the Fugitive slave law of 1850. If helping slaves escape wasn’t hard enough in the first place, this law would hinder their efforts even more.

Because of Harriets success and efforts, a bounty of $40,000 was put on her from the South. This made her mission more risky, but it did not stop Harriet in the least. In fact because of the reward, she was nearly caught as two men were reading her wanted poster. The poster stated she was illiterate and Harriet was saved from that capture by reading a book. Harriet was a true hero for her efforts. She was described as having been wholly devoid of personal fear. She was also described as Moses for her fearless efforts and dedication to saving people.

2/16/2009 8:21:01 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
in_doubtalishis
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,777)
Beaumont, CA
age: 35


Part Deux




You can tell from her story that some people are put here on earth for a mission. Harriet lived her life to save others. Her whole life was dedicated to this. She did not stop saving people after her mission for the slaves came to an end. In 1861 Harriet continued serving people in the Civil War. She enlisted into the Union Army as a contraband nurse. Harriet nursed people back to health and through all of the disease she was amidst, Harriet did not catch any illness herself during her service in the army. Harriet is a woman who was on a mission in life. Her story has touched my heart and inspired me. Harriet has taught me that no matter what hardships you go through, you can always find a way out of it.

Harriet gives such importance to history. When you look back at her story, you see how one woman can overcome anything. All you need is the determination to fight for good, passion for human life, and a selfless heart.



Another person who has touched my heart and my mind in history is Henry David Thoreau. I find him to be such a hero because he was not afraid to be different. Henry thought outside the box. He did not follow the masses. He realized the importance of living your life for yourself and thinking for yourself. He valued nature and the beauty of the world. He took time out to observe it in its entirety. It was his passion. And this is what makes him a hero. Not only did he have ideas, he acted upon them. He made a difference in many lives. He took a stand for what he believed in. He went against the social norm and took a closer look at it all.

Henry David Thoreau paid attention to the details of the world and the people who encompass it. He paid attention to how they interacted on a micro and macro level. He was an observer of life and based his actions upon people who have touched his life like Captain John Brown’s story, which enticed Thoreau to write a Plea in defense of Brown, which had an extraordinary impact on his life. He took causes and stood by them.

He pointed out certain injustices in life. He gave a different perspective for people to ponder. He would point out different ways that our lives could be, better ways, ways that respect the people with-out doing injustice against them. He fought against paying for taxes for causes that he did not believe in. Wars that he did not want to fight. So why should he have to pay for them. He had an amazing point of view. He knew that if just enough people stand up to over bearing taxes and unjust laws, you could actually have a chance to win your cause and do so in a peaceful manner.

As an observer of people he was able to watch it all from an outsiders perspective. In doing so you can see how different people interact with each other. What makes them tick. He knew there were better ways for people to interact together. If they only paid attention and took the time to look towards different answers to solve the same age old problems. Thoreau looked for different answers and he had a good perspective on everything since he was always observing the world around him. If people just took the time to listen to his ideas, the world might function just a little more smoothly.

He often wrote and out of his writings came books and essays such as Walden, Civil Disobedience, and Resistance to Civil Government. He was a writer, a philosopher, and greatest of all a teacher. He would teach people with his poems and writings and lectures that life has a whole other dimension. There is so much more to explore and discover. Thoreau had a way of making sense of things and bringing ideas together so that all readers can understand.

It is people who had ideas and took action to bring those ideas to life, well it is those people who make history such an exciting adventure to partake in. They inspire us to this day and they are remembered for their contributions to the world. Their contribution included risks that people had to take in order to advance as a society. It is them who made us look at ourselves for who we are and see the ways in which we can work to make this world a better place.


We shall not live our lives in vain. We must help those who are in need because of horrific injustices the world has lain at their feet. It is up to us to take risks and challenge our people to stand up for what you believe in, no matter the risks. That is the only way you can create change and bring about equality.



You have to absorb your lessons from the past and have the courage to take your results and share them with the world. You must stand up for what is right and what is just if you want change. All ventures include risks. It is those who were willing to take the biggest risks who have paved the way for us to do better. We need to take advantage of the wonderful journeys they have left behind and keep our eyes focused on the map that was left before us. All of our answers lie behind us. We must absorb them with care and from an outsiders point of view. We need to take our results and our ideas and share them with the world. Stand up for the change you believe in. It is with-in reach if you only take that extra step.

The greatest lesson learned is the lesson that is taken into the future and acted upon in order to make a courageous difference and contribution to a greater advancement of our society and the future of societies to come. Risks are not only worth taking, they are necessary.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau
http://www.online-literature.com/thoreau/
http://eserver.org/thoreau/walden00.html
http://www.vcu.edu/engweb/transcendentalism/authors/thoreau/
http://www.strawberrylady.com/blackhistory/tubman/Tubman.htm
http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/page.cgi/aa/tubman
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p1535.html
http://www.math.buffalo.edu/~sww/0history/hwny-tubman.html
http://www.nyhistory.com/harriettubman/life.htm
http://www.harriettubmanbiography.com/

2/16/2009 8:28:46 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

crazyhorse327
Columbia, LA
age: 48


Quote from in_doubtalishis:
Crazy why dont you quit the yappin and let the education continue. I just did a paper on the under ground railroad last semester. It was wonderful that people were strong enough to put their life on the line to help others. Too many people once freed from any situation will run and never look back. But so many people here risked their life day in and day out and even had bounties on theor heads and faced death right in the face, but they went to help others. Now that is courage and strength. Thanks for trying to teach so many and putting in so much effort. Sorry you are continually met with this hate. It is a shame.
then you would know why lincoln gave the order that any contraband found comming into the north from the south was to be confiscated and returned to the south,,,,meaning runaway slaves,,,thats why they had to go R.O.T.C,,,run over to cannada.oh and buy the way,going to school dosent make you smart,just a bigger waste of time and money

2/16/2009 8:34:11 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

layla22
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (52,512)
Peoria, IL
age: 56


on jan. 16, 1941, the US war department formed the 99th pursuit squadron, black pilots in training at tuskegee air field.

on march 7, 1942, the first class of all black pilots graduated.

they flew w/ the 99th or another black outfit, the 332nd fighter group. col. (later general) benjamin o. davis, a black, commanded the latter.

both the 99th and the 332nd, based in north africa, flew bombing missions on sicily and mainland italy, and are credited w/ major success in the air vanquishing of italy.

eighty-eight tuskegee airmen received distinguished flying crosses for their ww ii service and valor.

2/16/2009 8:35:36 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
in_doubtalishis
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,777)
Beaumont, CA
age: 35


Quote from crazyhorse327:
then you would know why lincoln gave the order that any contraband found comming into the north from the south was to be confiscated and returned to the south,,,,meaning runaway slaves,,,thats why they had to go R.O.T.C,,,run over to cannada.oh and buy the way,going to school dosent make you smart,just a bigger waste of time and money




No dear I will be a bigger earner of money. Anywhoo good luck in your life. If your ever down ill still help you.

2/16/2009 8:38:53 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

crazyhorse327
Columbia, LA
age: 48


Quote from layla22:
on jan. 16, 1941, the US war department formed the 99th pursuit squadron, black pilots in training at tuskegee air field.

on march 7, 1942, the first class of all black pilots graduated.

they flew w/ the 99th or another black outfit, the 332nd fighter group. col. (later general) benjamin o. davis, a black, commanded the latter.

both the 99th and the 332nd, based in north africa, flew bombing missions on sicily and mainland italy, and are credited w/ major success in the air vanquishing of italy.

eighty-eight tuskegee airmen received distinguished flying crosses for their ww ii service and valor.
yes thwey did and all if not most white bomber commanders wanted them to excort them be cause they never lost a plane to ennemy fighters

2/16/2009 8:45:48 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

layla22
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (52,512)
Peoria, IL
age: 56


locopony

you just said something nice about blacks!



2/16/2009 8:55:44 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

crazyhorse327
Columbia, LA
age: 48


Quote from layla22:
locopony

you just said something nice about blacks!

I said somthing nice about human biengs who served thier country,dosent matter thier color to me,they did an outstanding job as for indoubt,,you should change your name to indebt.I own my four bedroom and two full bath home,along with the sixty acres it sits own,so make as much money as you want and be sure to let me know if you make it,i dont want to worry about giveing you another loan

2/17/2009 2:38:31 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Quote from pahoalookout:
Good movie on HBO, Tuesday at 10:30 AM. "Something The Lord Made" staring Alan Rickman. An African American lab assistant, because of his superior knowledge of the heart's anatomy, helps a heart surgeon develop new procedures. Either base on or is a true story. *** Three stars. Worth the watch.
Yes we introduced this story (Dr. Vivien Thomas) on page 15 I know it is hard to read the history among the distractions but it's there. It's also on HBO demand right now.
Quote from crazyhorse327:
seems your the type of person who thinks two wrongs make a right.i thought the subject was black history,didnt here you say what kind?you cant have the good without the bad as your so found of pointing out about white history.if you think im a raceist,you need to look at yourself first because every white person that comes on here and you dont agree with thier views,thats what you label them as.you portray yourself in everyway as a black person who hates white people because its all about being black and nothing else
I was referring to his personal attack on me. He added his remark about being a "want to be lady" yet he had no evidence to convince him otherwise. His personal attack had nothing to do with the subject matter and when people are upset enough to call you a name then they need to cool down and not use the thread to vent personal opinions toward the OP. Even you have taken your insults down tremendously. Also we loss important history about the Tuskegee Airman and other units when the other thread was locked. Would you post information about the men that you have. Thanks in anticipation.

Quote from bones01:
Real Lady, Thanks, I enjoyed all that is positive in this thread.

Thank you as well as Pahoa, Indoubt and Layla

2/17/2009 2:42:42 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
in_doubtalishis
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,777)
Beaumont, CA
age: 35


Your welcome. Here enjoy some Mehicana musica





2/17/2009 5:55:15 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
roaches
Portland, OR
age: 64


"His personal attack had nothing to do with the subject matter and when people are upset enough to call you a name then they need to cool down and not use the thread to vent personal opinions toward the OP."

Watch out, she will block you as she has done to most anyone else she disagrees with.



Strike one.

2/17/2009 7:03:09 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
millionplusone
Over 2,000 Posts (2,397)
Cleburne, TX
age: 29


Pardon me if I spell this wrong, the Tuskeegee Air Men. Do any of you know the group? They were fighter pilots in the navy. Damn good too!

2/17/2009 10:00:30 AM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
dominicross
Saint Charles, IL
age: 50


I think we have to accept that until we fight for human rights equally applied to all, we can't expect anything to get better, and we don’t really have the right to single only ourselves out for rights. Seems simple. Like you, I am not interested in fighting for the status quo.

My mistake was thinking that the phony black liberals who blog and especially black women were ignorant about the way society and culture affect whites and if you explained it, then they would be more supportive of ideas and causes. It took me awhile to see that unity and solidarity were only for their ideas and causes and that for the most part it is all about them.

Many white bloggers understand this because they face a backlash when they raise questions.

We are accused of being racist ourselves when we don't accept everyone with brown, red, yellor or black skin, including those who are harmful to us collectively and are as self-serving as many white people.

Is it really that hard to believe that a person who was raised in a white middle class neighborhood might absorb racist stereotypes about his/her people as well as other people of color? That person might believe that the reason they got ahead was because of hard work, and not see that better schools in their middle class neighborhood helped, or that money and their parents white connections helped, and that person thinks white and acts white.

For what it's worth, I'm a white guy trying to gain as much exposure to a wide variety of social justice issues from a steady, diverse diet of reading topics on here. Without blogs and forums such as this, I would be missing out on a whole lot of exposure to issues, ideas and insights that I might not see on a daily basis (but desperately wish I did).

The demoralization has so much to do with realizing that what I (or you) think is the answer to myriad problems and intertwined behind so many is but a "pet issue" to someone else who (sadly) has more voice and reach (for now.)

For so many of us, it is not. that is the crux. that conflict in view. we want bigger change. we feel bigger change that has to do with these insights so many of which center around a White Male Supremacy of standard and thought or a colonizing view on the rest of the world...but if we approach that elsewhere it's like "OH YOU HATE BLACK MALES" or "YOU WANT TO FOIST YOUR PET ISSUES ON THE WORLD" or "YOU ARE ARROGANT" or "YOU ARE WHINING FOR LINKS" or "YOU HATE whites" and sigh....to get through another conversation you hope teaches a little, but ends up being a battle where the hate bubbles over.

I feel I have been spinning my wheels with "white outreach," but I felt I needed to write it. The conversation rolls on, the learning rolls on.

I also think that we all absorb racism and internalize it to some extent and have to be aware of it.

I'm still searching for more, there are quality people out there in the wilderness. Most of us write because we want to make an impact, we want readers to hear us and be moved by what we say. So "popularity", links, comments, all of that counts for something. But I also like the give and take of my comments and if I was one of the "big boys" types, I couldn't handle the hundreds of comments, I'd spend all my time weeding out the racists and the trolls, with little time for much else.

Anyway, Arealady thank you for your article and the thoughts, connections and confirmations it brought to me while reading it. Be very careful not to fall into the place of wanting to lump all white people together, it's very easy to do that with any group whose "stupidity" we get sick of dealing with, especially when it seems to be endemic within that group. I am a white man - for lack of any other possible description. - who grew up not being able to deal with the racist bullshit around me where I grew up... have done the best to educate myself as I've grown and have learned the following:

1) we are all inherently racist, as that is the society we live in; part of this comes from our upbringing and the other from our experiences;

2) it is a very humbling experience when you realize the level of racism you have internalized throughout your life, more humbling to admit the times it subconsciously guided your actions;

3) it is much easier to hate a group of people who annoy the ---- out of you than not to, as I was very close to being anti-Jewish after working in the apparel industry for 6 years - the level bigotry and entitlement was mind-boggling;

4) I have found that same amount of bigotry and entitlement within the population that I now teach, which is urban, mostly non-white and working to poverty class;

5) the greatest irony is that the qualities we despise the most we can usually find in ourselves.

2/17/2009 12:02:55 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Quote from dominicross:
I think we have to accept that until we fight for human rights equally applied to all, we can't expect anything to get better, and we don’t really have the right to single only ourselves out for rights. Seems simple. Like you, I am not interested in fighting for the status quo.

My mistake was thinking that the phony black liberals who blog and especially black women were ignorant about the way society and culture affect whites and if you explained it, then they would be more supportive of ideas and causes. It took me awhile to see that unity and solidarity were only for their ideas and causes and that for the most part it is all about them.

Many white bloggers understand this because they face a backlash when they raise questions.

We are accused of being racist ourselves when we don't accept everyone with brown, red, yellor or black skin, including those who are harmful to us collectively and are as self-serving as many white people.

Is it really that hard to believe that a person who was raised in a white middle class neighborhood might absorb racist stereotypes about his/her people as well as other people of color? That person might believe that the reason they got ahead was because of hard work, and not see that better schools in their middle class neighborhood helped, or that money and their parents white connections helped, and that person thinks white and acts white.

For what it's worth, I'm a white guy trying to gain as much exposure to a wide variety of social justice issues from a steady, diverse diet of reading topics on here. Without blogs and forums such as this, I would be missing out on a whole lot of exposure to issues, ideas and insights that I might not see on a daily basis (but desperately wish I did).

The demoralization has so much to do with realizing that what I (or you) think is the answer to myriad problems and intertwined behind so many is but a "pet issue" to someone else who (sadly) has more voice and reach (for now.)

For so many of us, it is not. that is the crux. that conflict in view. we want bigger change. we feel bigger change that has to do with these insights so many of which center around a White Male Supremacy of standard and thought or a colonizing view on the rest of the world...but if we approach that elsewhere it's like "OH YOU HATE BLACK MALES" or "YOU WANT TO FOIST YOUR PET ISSUES ON THE WORLD" or "YOU ARE ARROGANT" or "YOU ARE WHINING FOR LINKS" or "YOU HATE whites" and sigh....to get through another conversation you hope teaches a little, but ends up being a battle where the hate bubbles over.

I feel I have been spinning my wheels with "white outreach," but I felt I needed to write it. The conversation rolls on, the learning rolls on.

I also think that we all absorb racism and internalize it to some extent and have to be aware of it.

I'm still searching for more, there are quality people out there in the wilderness. Most of us write because we want to make an impact, we want readers to hear us and be moved by what we say. So "popularity", links, comments, all of that counts for something. But I also like the give and take of my comments and if I was one of the "big boys" types, I couldn't handle the hundreds of comments, I'd spend all my time weeding out the racists and the trolls, with little time for much else.

Anyway, Arealady thank you for your article and the thoughts, connections and confirmations it brought to me while reading it. Be very careful not to fall into the place of wanting to lump all white people together, it's very easy to do that with any group whose "stupidity" we get sick of dealing with, especially when it seems to be endemic within that group. I am a white man - for lack of any other possible description. - who grew up not being able to deal with the racist bullshit around me where I grew up... have done the best to educate myself as I've grown and have learned the following:

1) we are all inherently racist, as that is the society we live in; part of this comes from our upbringing and the other from our experiences;

2) it is a very humbling experience when you realize the level of racism you have internalized throughout your life, more humbling to admit the times it subconsciously guided your actions;

3) it is much easier to hate a group of people who annoy the ---- out of you than not to, as I was very close to being anti-Jewish after working in the apparel industry for 6 years - the level bigotry and entitlement was mind-boggling;

4) I have found that same amount of bigotry and entitlement within the population that I now teach, which is urban, mostly non-white and working to poverty class;

5) the greatest irony is that the qualities we despise the most we can usually find in ourselves.
With all that just remember not to generalize.
That would be fine CH I don't know a lot about O.J.



[Edited 2/17/2009 12:18:20 PM ]

2/17/2009 12:07:24 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

crazyhorse327
Columbia, LA
age: 48


Hey what about O.J.Simpson,he shows history as it realy is,the good,the bad and the ugly

2/17/2009 12:16:20 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Quote from roaches:
"His personal attack had nothing to do with the subject matter and when people are upset enough to call you a name then they need to cool down and not use the thread to vent personal opinions toward the OP."

Watch out, she will block you as she has done to most anyone else she disagrees with.



Strike one.

Roaches, I know what you need....
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2/17/2009 12:19:49 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
in_doubtalishis
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,777)
Beaumont, CA
age: 35


I was gonna suggest



















But your much sweeter than I am today

2/17/2009 12:30:24 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Quote from in_doubtalishis:
I was gonna suggest



















But your much sweeter than I am today





Indoubt:
2/17/2009 12:33:12 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
roaches
Portland, OR
age: 64


You both took the bait. A roach is a fighting fish. LOL!



2/17/2009 12:39:15 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
areallady1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,256)
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45


Quote from roaches:
You both took the bait. A roach is a fighting fish. LOL!


Does not change how we feel about you. The same response to you applies

2/17/2009 1:14:05 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
roaches
Portland, OR
age: 64


Does not change how I feel about you either, and the other girl--do you speak for her too?? or are you both people? schizo?



[Edited 2/17/2009 1:14:41 PM ]

2/17/2009 1:19:57 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
in_doubtalishis
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,777)
Beaumont, CA
age: 35


Roach now come on you knew someone was bound to do it. Its all in good fun. My name gets made fun of all the time. It comes with the territory here. Im just surprised I was the first to do it. I personally just find it bothersome how you boss the OP's around. You did it in my thread too. The OP here has every right to block trouble makers because this is an occasion to celebrate and it is hard to do with people coming in and taking away from the education we can learn here. It is disheartening to see that people will not allow the celebration of black history month. I personally believe our fellow americans deserve more. Afterall what we enjoy was mostly built from the blood of their hands. Let this thread be a time for celebration and unity and appreciation. Not fighting.



So no hard feelings you know I just had to do it

2/17/2009 1:47:21 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  
roaches
Portland, OR
age: 64


I suppose she enjoys our tiffs, since she has not yet blocked me. I am waiting. See my post in faith's thread for further clarification.

Actually, the raid does not bug me at all. Its the venom that does.

2/17/2009 2:14:29 PM American History in Pictures: Old Black America  

bluecougareyes
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Chelan, WA
age: 66


Quote from areallady1:
Yes, I remember watching Flip Wilson: Clerow Wilson Jr. Born December 8, 1933
A Regular performer at the Apollo Theatre in Harlem NY. znominated for 11 Emmys,winning two. Won a Golden Globe Award for Best Actor In A Television Series. In 1970 he won a Grammy Award for his comedy album, "The Devil Made Me Do It."

Flip Wilson Routine about a ugly baby

Geraldine and Muhammad Ali

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Hey.. I remember Flip when I was a teen, He was GREAT and always made me laugh so much!
His Geraldine was so original too !
Is he still kicking around these days ?