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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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In observance of Black History month I would like to share videos and pictures of every day to extraordinary black people. Thank you for viewing.
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| 1/26/2009 8:36:03 AM |
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olderperson
Seattle, WA
age: 69
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Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing it! We should't forget the Blacks that contributed to the Civil War either. I'm not talking about the cooks and general workers I'm talking about the Blacks tha volunteered to fight for the South. There are many that will say they were "forced" into this, but that's not true! All the Blacks that wore Confederate gray were all volunteers....as were the Blacks that fought for the North. When the Confederacy decided to enlist Blacks for the army there was a lot of controversy about arming them. Some thought there would be a rebellion and a "slave uprising"...but that didn't happen. They were enlisted, uniformed, armed and they kicked some pretty fair butt during that war.
After that war was over...we shouldn't forget the "Buffalo Soldiers" of the 9th. and 10th. Cavalry at Fort Huachuca, Arizona. All Black and tough as nails! The Indians tagged them as "Buffalo Soldiers" because of their hair. It looked like the front end of a Buffalo. After a troop of Buffalo Soldiers would capture some Indians...the Indians would ask why, if they had been slaves of the Whites...they were fighting for them. They would tell the Indians that slavery was no longer and they were free to come and go as they pleased and that the Army had accepted them as soldiers.
Again...Thanks for sharing the video
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| 1/26/2009 8:37:44 AM |
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k_tothe_c
Las Vegas, NV
age: 40
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Cool post! ...i hope everyone takes the ten minutes to watch it! 
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| 1/26/2009 8:48:11 AM |
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eightinchbend
Gadsden, AL
age: 46
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Bessie Coleman
I think you'll enjoy learning about Ms. Coleman's story on how she became a pilot. One day, she did three "firsts" all in the same moment: First black, first woman, and first person to receive an international pilot's license. She was an inspiration and a role model for many young girls who wanted to learn how to fly.
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| 1/26/2009 9:02:33 AM |
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faithhealer
Muskogee, OK
age: 60
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Aaaaah the good old days.
You've come a long way Bessie!
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| 1/26/2009 9:35:55 AM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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Thank you to all of you gentleman.
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| 1/26/2009 10:01:44 AM |
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scorpiomoon
Brattleboro, VT
age: 61
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Beautiful video, beautiful music, thanks for sharing!!
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| 1/26/2009 10:10:41 AM |
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olderperson
Seattle, WA
age: 69
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As long as we are on the topic of Black History here....we must never forget the darker, more negative side of it.
This is a picture of Gordon, a Black salve that escaped his master in Mississippi and what they did to him after he was captured. He was stripped, tied to a tree and whipped viciously.
GRANTED! Not all slaves were treated this way, but many of them were, so with every aspect of any history there is the good side and the dark side.
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| 1/26/2009 10:16:56 AM |
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gavinh
Council Bluffs, IA
age: 40
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Black History Month---February, not January.
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| 1/26/2009 11:31:06 AM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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Black History Month---February, not January.
There's nothing wrong with getting an early start by just a few days. I have a lot that I want to share and I hope others have something enlightening to share regarding the history. Starting with early years gave me a broader perspective and I think it's a great starting position. We can look at the life and times, inventors, advocates,actvists as well as every day people. A friend sent me an email entitled Black History 365(days). It is remarkable but I wasn't able to post it.
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| 1/26/2009 11:47:22 AM |
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1pinkstar
Omaha, NE
age: 57
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When is White History month? (nice photos anyhow)
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| 1/26/2009 12:01:35 PM |
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ddhriss
Glen Burnie, MD
age: 65
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When is White History month? (nice photos anyhow)
Good point, or American Indian history month?
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| 1/26/2009 12:03:10 PM |
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olderperson
Seattle, WA
age: 69
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And....National Fire Fighters Month?
JUST KIDDING!
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| 1/26/2009 12:05:49 PM |
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faithhealer
Muskogee, OK
age: 60
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and the white caucus in congress.....and pervert month....whoops, that slipped out>
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| 1/26/2009 1:22:38 PM |
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patripassion
Thomson, GA
age: 45
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Lets not stop there when is there yellow history month.This would be the month that we would celebrate what the chinese, Japanese, Koreans, and all other asians have done to improve this counrty.
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| 1/26/2009 1:27:22 PM |
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1pinkstar
Omaha, NE
age: 57
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American History in Pictures: the 1800
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| 1/26/2009 1:42:20 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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This is not relevant. Please delete this.
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| 1/26/2009 2:17:08 PM |
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gavinh
Council Bluffs, IA
age: 40
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It is American History. Why just black not white?
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| 1/26/2009 2:25:17 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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It is American History. Why just black not white?
This Thread is closed. Please see Thread concerning Black History
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| 1/26/2009 2:25:32 PM |
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eightinchbend
Gadsden, AL
age: 46
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When is White History month? (nice photos anyhow)
Actually, it's the same time as Black History Month. It started in 1926 as Negro History Week, and Carter Goodson picked February as the month of observance because it is the same month as Abraham Linoln's and Frederick Douglass's birthdays. Both men were the seeds that spawned the quest for civil rights.
This February marks 100 years of the NAACP, the oldest civil rights organisation in America. It started as The Niagra Movement because W.E.B. Dubois and other black leaders convened on the Canadian side of the US/Canadian border because hotels in American did not admit blacks. Their second conference a year later included several whites. One of them, Henry Moskowitz, came up with the idea to rename the group NAACP.
Untold scores of whites lost their lives helping blacks. Information is still being discovered about who these white people were. One of those "Forgotten Soldiers" is Viola Liuzzo.
Viola Liuzzo
She was born with protest in her blood because she questioned everything and anything the government did that she felt would cause more harm to people than good. In 1965, the young mother of five children followed Martin Luther King's Selma March with great interest. After failing to cross Edmund Pettus bridge, King and his followers decided to attempt a future crossing. The date was made public, and Mrs. Liuzzo decided she wanted to be a part of it. She left her children and husband at home to make the long drive to Alabama alone saying, "it's everybody's fight." She and many others volunteered to drive protesters safely to their homes. One such trip caught the attention of some local whites who were upset that King successfully marched across Edmund Pettus bridge on his second attempt. They saw Liuzzo admit a young black man into her car, and the white men who were Klan members followed them. Once outside of the city limits, they chased the frightened pair into the remote backdrop of Loundes County. As the klansmen pulled alongside of Liuzzo's Oldsmobile, shots were fired with one landing in her head. She died instantly and the car ran off the road for a while before it came to a stop. The black protestor lay still on the ground until it was safe for him to flee.
Back in Michigan, Viola Liuzzo received a State funeral with people from all over the country in attendence including Martin Luther King, several Hollywood actors, and noteable recording artists. It is impossible to describe her as anything less than a hero.
You are correct. It isn't just "Black History Month" but American history regardless of calendar appointment. However, "Black History Month" has another significance to it other than recognising achievements and contributions by blacks in multiple areas of American life. Whites know more about it than we do. It leaves me speechless to know many blacks don't know who Garrett Morgan is. They see his contributions everytime they try to outrun a yellow traffic light, or have need for a gas mask. He invented both. When blacks donate blood, so many have no clue that Dr. Charles Drew discovered the process for preserving blood for later use. Each day black people slip on a pair of shoes, many don't know Mr. Jan Matzeliger developed a machine that attached the sole of a shoe in less than a minute which ended the need to do this by hand. He revolutionised shoe manufacturing for the enitre world.
Blacks don't know enough about this, and know even less about the whites who helped us every step of the way. Whites helped make sure the story would be told. To forget, or to dismiss an opportunity to learn about our history would be the greatest act of dishonouring those who died in the process....both black and white. To do so would be the same as saying Viola Liuzzo lost her life for no reason. Not embracing that history means rejecting Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner, two young white men who drove from New York City to Neshoba County Mississipi and were executed for helping blacks fight for voting rights.
Andrew Goodman
Michael Schwerner
Those who lived to tell about it can't be forgotten either. It would be the same as saying Marlon Brando, Paul Newman, Leonard Bernstein, and others joined "freedom riders" simply because they had nothing else better to do with their time. Forgetting Black History would mean Charlton Heston and James Garner stood in the August heat listening to King's "Dream" speech only because their agents couldn't book them on any epic movie projects.
Yes, it's White History too. For helping us, you were shunned by your friends and family. You lost your jobs. You were chased out of town. You were spat upon. You were jailed. You were beaten, stabbed, and shot to death. No black person should forget this important and invaluable sacrifice .............neither should whites.
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| 1/26/2009 2:26:46 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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This Thread is closed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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| 1/26/2009 4:07:23 PM |
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knightnyte2
Spring, TX
age: 57
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closed? i see you made another racist thread...
i watched your OP video and kept waiting for something to be said. Did I miss something?
peace... don't be hatin'
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| 1/26/2009 4:14:20 PM |
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in_doubtalishis
Beaumont, CA
age: 35
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Girl im sorry your thread got ruined. You have every right to celebrate black history month. In fact I hope this year we go to excess with celebration and appreciation. Too many people are too concerned with their ownselves to see what others sacrificed for them and what they have today. I hope you open your new thread and I will participate
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| 1/26/2009 4:14:44 PM |
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hunter12gauge
Bellaire, OH
age: 48
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There's nothing wrong with getting an early start by just a few days. I have a lot that I want to share and I hope others have something enlightening to share regarding the history. Starting with early years gave me a broader perspective and I think it's a great starting position. We can look at the life and times, inventors, advocates,actvists as well as every day people. A friend sent me an email entitled Black History 365(days). It is remarkable but I wasn't able to post it.
Yes.yes,yes...... why don't we celebrate all year long,afterall the economy is in the tank,and noone will be reporting for work anytime soon,so hell yea let's kick this bad boy off a little early and maybe stay tooooooooo late. Hell we don't have anything else to do much less celebrate.       
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| 1/26/2009 4:17:38 PM |
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eightinchbend
Gadsden, AL
age: 46
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closed? i see you made another racist thread...
i watched your OP video and kept waiting for something to be said. Did I miss something?
peace... don't be hatin'
Knight,
With all due respect.......how is this thread an expression of racism?
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| 1/26/2009 4:27:21 PM |
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knightnyte2
Spring, TX
age: 57
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Knight,
With all due respect.......how is this thread an expression of racism?
lol.. defender of all, why am I not surprised you come to the rescue?
most of this lady's post are a bit controversial. why would you start a thread, without any comments, a video that just showed some old photos. Of course the topid classified 'pictures' but gee.. When others asked if they could have Asian, white, hispanic, polish.. the thread was said to have been closed... American History in Pictures.... then subtitle of Old Black America. That's a wide open topic. American History in Pictures!! Each can subtitle as they wish...
peace... don't be hatin'
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| 1/26/2009 4:32:56 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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lol.. defender of all, why am I not surprised you come to the rescue?
most of this lady's post are a bit controversial. why would you start a thread, without any comments, a video that just showed some old photos. Of course the topid classified 'pictures' but gee.. When others asked if they could have Asian, white, hispanic, polish.. the thread was said to have been closed... American History in Pictures.... then subtitle of Old Black America. That's a wide open topic. American History in Pictures!! Each can subtitle as they wish...
peace... don't be hatin'
My thread clearly says in observance of Black history month. I closed it because a simple individual was making a mockery of the theme. Aren't forums suppose to be controversial. This isn't a crochet club. A new Thread is available. Thank you guys who particpated and shared your videos I will see you in the other Thread. Thank you.
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| 1/26/2009 4:58:40 PM |
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knightnyte2
Spring, TX
age: 57
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My thread clearly says in observance of Black history month. I closed it because a simple individual was making a mockery of the theme. Aren't forums suppose to be controversial. This isn't a crochet club. A new Thread is available. Thank you guys who particpated and shared your videos I will see you in the other Thread. Thank you.
no, this isn't a walk down easy street. I stand behind my racist comment about this thread. I'm guessing posting this a week early just because.... consider the comments as you said, controversial. and did you notice I did not post until after you had blocked a couple? turnabout is fair play...
truly...
peace... don't be hatin'
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| 1/26/2009 5:47:03 PM |
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centurion6
Gadsden, AL
age: 46
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lol.. defender of all, why am I not surprised you come to the rescue?
most of this lady's post are a bit controversial. why would you start a thread, without any comments, a video that just showed some old photos. Of course the topid classified 'pictures' but gee.. When others asked if they could have Asian, white, hispanic, polish.. the thread was said to have been closed... American History in Pictures.... then subtitle of Old Black America. That's a wide open topic. American History in Pictures!! Each can subtitle as they wish...
peace... don't be hatin'
Knight,
What did you see in the first few postings to this? I saw people enjoying the topic. So, again.......where did it turn "racist"?
Could you please read Eights post? I'd like to know what you think.
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| 1/26/2009 5:52:40 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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no, this isn't a walk down easy street. I stand behind my racist comment about this thread. I'm guessing posting this a week early just because.... consider the comments as you said, controversial. and did you notice I did not post until after you had blocked a couple? turnabout is fair play...
Huh? Blocked a couple of what? Dont make it seem as if I am trying to block people because they have a question for me. truly...
peace... don't be hatin'
I blocked one person because she deserved it. She blocked me for a month or longer then unblocked me only to cause me grief. What r u talking abt? r u another one of her groupies?
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| 1/26/2009 5:54:59 PM |
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knightnyte2
Spring, TX
age: 57
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i only responded to the one responding to me. no, i have not read eight's post. i might do so later, but at this point... cant say.
look, i was not even posting in this crap until she blocked. had she not expected a response, she should have made a post like this in a not so controversial forum.... she told me to grow thick skin. I have it.
celebrate all you guys wish. I do not have a problem with it. But I firmly believe we have too many 'hallmark' holidays. those who aren't Christian, do not believe in GOD, certainly take advantage of the holidays offered by Christians, don't they? I do not take a day off work for many of the 'bank' holidays either. Washington's birthday, MLK day, and many others. I work on these days, but if you wish to celebrate... go for it!
peace... don't be hatin'
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| 1/26/2009 5:58:56 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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i only responded to the one responding to me. no, i have not read eight's post. i might do so later, but at this point... cant say.
look, i was not even posting in this crap until she blocked. had she not expected a response, she should have made a post like this in a not so controversial forum.... she told me to grow thick skin. I have it.
celebrate all you guys wish. I do not have a problem with it. But I firmly believe we have too many 'hallmark' holidays. those who aren't Christian, do not believe in GOD, certainly take advantage of the holidays offered by Christians, don't they? I do not take a day off work for many of the 'bank' holidays either. Washington's birthday, MLK day, and many others. I work on these days, but if you wish to celebrate... go for it!
peace... don't be hatin'
Block??????
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| 1/26/2009 7:30:14 PM |
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knightnyte2
Spring, TX
age: 57
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like i said, i wasn't even going to post on this thread until complaints came about it being a little unfair. if you'll notice, I do not post on threads I consider racist. it doesnt mean I do not read some of them..
peace... don't be hatin'
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| 1/26/2009 7:57:07 PM |
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eightinchbend
Gadsden, AL
age: 46
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Quote from knightnyte2: like i said, i wasn't even going to post on this thread until complaints came about it being a little unfair. if you'll notice, I do not post on threads I consider racist. it doesnt mean I do not read some of them..
peace... don't be hatin'
So, are you saying you find no value at all in this? What about from an educational perspective? Consider my submission regarding Bessie Coleman. For me, I find great interest in this because not only did she break colour lines in flight training, she also broke the gender line as well. Also, my Father was one of the Tuskegee Airmen which was an all black unit of the Air Force during times of a segregated military. However, many of their training programmes were quickly adopted as standard procedure for the entire Air Force. These tactics helped to improve aircraft efficiency and contributed to many combat successes.
Why would discussing such information be considered "unfair"? Did you see the part about blood preservation? Was there ever a time when you were curious about who came up with the idea? How many billions of lives have been improved or saved because of this?
Please Knight........I'm not trying to "sign you up", but can you appreciate the immeasurable impact left because of these people and others like them?
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| 1/26/2009 8:11:18 PM |
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be4eyedieagain
Janesville, WI
age: 46
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As long as we are on the topic of Black History here....we must never forget the darker, more negative side of it.
This is a picture of Gordon, a Black salve that escaped his master in Mississippi and what they did to him after he was captured. He was stripped, tied to a tree and whipped viciously.
GRANTED! Not all slaves were treated this way, but many of them were, so with every aspect of any history there is the good side and the dark side.
Absorbing that kind of pain and living with it would probably be passed down to the next generations and rightfully so. Inflicting that kind of pain to another could also be passed down to the next generations, unrightfully so. I liked the thread, much to be learned and not much time....jmo
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| 1/26/2009 8:14:42 PM |
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sweetiepielove
Jacksonville, FL
age: 33
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Quote from gavinh:It is American History. Why just black not white?
Because this is HER thread?
If you want a 'American History: Old WHITE America' thread, then start one.
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| 1/26/2009 8:35:08 PM |
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knightnyte2
Spring, TX
age: 57
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Quote from knightnyte2: like i said, i wasn't even going to post on this thread until complaints came about it being a little unfair. if you'll notice, I do not post on threads I consider racist. it doesnt mean I do not read some of them..
peace... don't be hatin'
So, are you saying you find no value at all in this? What about from an educational perspective? Consider my submission regarding Bessie Coleman. For me, I find great interest in this because not only did she break colour lines in flight training, she also broke the gender line as well. Also, my Father was one of the Tuskegee Airmen which was an all black unit of the Air Force during times of a segregated military. However, many of their training programmes were quickly adopted as standard procedure for the entire Air Force. These tactics helped to improve aircraft efficiency and contributed to many combat successes.
Why would discussing such information be considered "unfair"? Did you see the part about blood preservation? Was there ever a time when you were curious about who came up with the idea? How many billions of lives have been improved or saved because of this?
Please Knight........I'm not trying to "sign you up", but can you appreciate the immeasurable impact left because of these people and others like them?
and those pics in her video were all those you mentioned?
your post was quite informative. I admire what the Buffalo soldiers did. I admired what the Buffalo soldiers did in WW I and WW II. I do not think they were treated fairly. I cannot do anything about it. That was then, this is now. I admire most men and women. Race or sex means little to me. It's the person that gains respect. Showing some information with a post makes it a bit more worthy.
Eight, I had a nanny while young. Her husband helped us around the farm all my youth. I loved that couple like a child does his parent. I purchased her husband, his first milk shake. He was in his 40's. We had stopped at a small burger place while out making deliveries for my dad. I cried like a baby at his death. My last visit with my nanny before her death, she was in a wheelchair, and I wanted her at our family reunion. She was at every other one in the past. I picked her up, my ex thought I was nuts, carried her to my car, loaded her wheel chair, and brought her to the place we held the affair. She had a ball, and so did my children with her. (she told them about my youth) Her husband was old school, but if he wanted to eat at our house, he had to wash up like the rest of us, and come inside and sit at the table.
I am from the country. We shared what we had. Whine about something that i had nothing to do with is just nuts. You know, you are better off than your parents. Your parents are probably better off than their parents.. etc. Guess what? I am better off than my parents. They were better off than their parents.
Actually, I see things differently than you. I see good Americans. You see color.
peace... don't be hatin'
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eightinchbend
Gadsden, AL
age: 46
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Actually, I see things differently than you. I see good Americans. You see color.
This is why I made it a point to mention whites who were more than supportive of blacks during times of segregation and the fight for civil rights. Many suffered socially, or died because of it. Of all threads regarding race, none have mentioned this at all. Is this not an example of recognising "good Americans."?
Then, consider my approach to just about every thread I have participated in. What is it that I always try to do? Do I not seek balance (moderation)? For example; consider the many debates regarding illegal immigration. It is a contentious issue and there are scores of comments that are degrading or violent in nature. I do my best to bring contrasting points of views to the discussions. What does everyone see in those threads Knight? I see people. Everyone else sees Mexicans. Am I wrong?
You say I see colour. Well, how can I ignore my own colour living in a time where race is still a divisive issue? Do I let another person's negative reactions toward me hinder achieving my goals? No. Do I use my colour to exploit others for the sake of my own advancement? No. Do I find myself limited because of my colour? Only in one regard: I am unable to trace my ancestry beyond my great grandparents. Few formal records were kept by the slave owners regarding "who was who". I often wish I could trace my ancestry to the times before institutionalised slavery, but I can't. It's not like I'm crushed about it. It's just a thought I have once in a while. But, does any of this mean I shouldn't be proud of what blacks have done? I don't think so. For you to suggest that I shouldn't means the Spanish should stop recognising Columbus. Would you have the French and Polish stop recognising Marie Curie? Should the Italians stop recognising Bernardo Bertolucci. Should the Germans should stop recognising Bach? Should Jews stop being recognised as God's chosen people?
What about gender? Should women stop recognising their "many firsts"?
Tell me how I am wrong in recognising black history? I just want to know why it is wrong in your eyes.
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| 1/27/2009 2:21:08 AM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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like i said, i wasn't even going to post on this thread until complaints came about it being a little unfair. if you'll notice, I do not post on threads I consider racist. it doesnt mean I do not read some of them..
peace... don't be hatin'
This Thread isn't racist and like you said the only reason why you posted is because the trouble maker came to you. I don't know what good you could do other than play her patsy. If you were interested in the truth of this immature behavior you would trace the history of the individual and ask her what her problem is. I ignored her in hopes that someone else would address her because her interactions with me have been consistently sarcastic without provocation. As I stated before she held me blocked for a month or more only to unblock me to harass me as well as her groupies. It is very juvenile and my mother did not act that childish at that age. The point in this Black History Observance is to promote a learning experience. I had wished to post something for Dr. Martin Luther King actual birthday but it proved to be a hectic time for me. Therefore, I decided to pesent this information a few days earlier. There was no ill will in my heart when I decided to do this as I stated before a friend sent me an email with a collection of Black History materials and it was just too massive to post here. So I opted to present a few things throughout the month. It turned out to be a great thing in bringing together members who embraced the opportunity to share and enlighten one another, However, it was because of one it began to sour the experience.
Speak up against racism don't speak up against Black History. In the larger cities they have various ethnic day celebrations it doesn't mean those people are racist. Be careful how we throw that word around, its just a cop out to avoid responsible ways to communicate.
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omega406
Chicago, IL
age: 32
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The Old Negro Space Program
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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A Dream Realized
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| 1/27/2009 5:51:14 AM |
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rayw4u
Council Bluffs, IA
age: 54
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This thread does seem racist. The topic is American History, right?
The subtitle is Old Black America. I see that there is another thread started for White History month.
Maybe that poster simply got tired of the racism, and was trying to show you what AMERICAN HISTORY is about. Selectively using one race to show American History in photos can be construed as reverse discrimination.
Wake up, people!
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| 1/27/2009 6:06:27 AM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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This thread does seem racist. The topic is American History, right?
The subtitle is Old Black America. I see that there is another thread started for White History month.
Maybe that poster simply got tired of the racism, and was trying to show you what AMERICAN HISTORY is about. Selectively using one race to show American History in photos can be construed as reverse discrimination.
Wake up, people!
It is important to read the subject matter of the Thread so that you can make informed decisions about how to reply or if you want to reply. Multiculturalism has been introduced to classrooms for several years now. Therefore, Experiences, Contributions and Acknowledgements are introduced in our lives everyday. As Sapphire,Eight, Omega, Older person and others have pointed out. There were other races instrumental in assisting black people in their efforts. We don't have a problem with having those things acknowledged here but the information should be relevant to the Thread. Furthermore, should not be posted because of a dislike for an individual. Again that word Racism if used here is a cop out. No one here is being racist or promoting racism.
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| 1/27/2009 3:44:28 PM |
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rayw4u
Council Bluffs, IA
age: 54
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I asked a black women that I work with why there is a need for black history month. Here is what she told me:
"It is the need to feel affirmed; [the] need to be aware of the contributions made by other Blacks; need to have role models; need to understand the social forces which have shaped and influenced their community and their identities as a means of feeling connected to the educational experience and their life experience. The need to feel empowered. The greater community needs to know their history and that includes all of the founding and pioneering experiences in order to work from reality, rather than perception alone."
I asked her, "Isn't that what people of every color need and want?"
She said yes. So, I am baffled as to why a black history month is needed. She would say no more.
How did Black History month start and why?
Sounds racist to me when you try to exclude white people.
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| 1/27/2009 6:31:13 PM |
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gavinh
Council Bluffs, IA
age: 40
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The truth is, a lot of people feel that every month is Black History Month. And I don't just mean people like Jesse Jackson who see "Selma" in everything from bad service in restaurants to Global Warming. Anyone who has looked through a college syllabus or high-school textbook in the last decade cannot honestly say that black history doesn't get a whole lot of attention.
Anyway, it's not quite clear why we need Black History Month. Is it because (white) America needs to have its consciousness raised about black contributions to science, arts, etc.? Or is it that black Americans need to have their cultural self-esteem raised about their own contributions? To be honest, it's very hard to tell sometimes.
Either way, the thing that bothers me so much about Black History Month is how much it feels like propaganda. Don't get me wrong, blacks have made great contributions to American life. But in a sense, so what? Why do we need to hear about it? I would be hard pressed to list for you the no doubt numerous contributions of Finnish or Nicaraguan Americans, but it's not as if I would consider the Finns or Nicaraguans any less fully American if I found out they contributed literally nothing worth celebrating.
In this country, we do not keep score on ethnic groups. Although I guess it is interesting to point out that American Communists in the 1930s were disproportionately Finnish. Alas, they were also disproportionately Jewish, so what can you do?
Anyway, back to my point. It makes me very uncomfortable to see corporations and television networks celebrating ethnic groups. Maybe I'm the equivalent of an ethnic ACLU-er. Nativity scenes and menorahs don't bother me at all, but it bugs the hell out of me to have the federal government touting the resumes of one ethnic group or another.
This sort of Volk propaganda is quite literally un-American, in the best sense of the word "American." Moreover, it's unnecessary and counterproductive. As my excursion into the case of Brown v. Traditional Education reveals, blacks get plenty of attention. And if I were the average white kid, I might conclude that blacks need Black History Month, a conclusion that feeds the racism it is supposed to combat.
if I were a black kid, I might be insulted that blacks need their own quota of days set aside, in which many fine accomplishments are celebrated and many mediocre accomplishments are over-hyped to the point of embarrassment.
Now, I know there are a lot of liberals who disagree. But many of them subscribe also to the condescendingly racist notion that they are the stewards of black self-esteem. As for me, I think your self-esteem is your own business
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| 1/27/2009 8:04:11 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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I asked a black women that I work with why there is a need for black history month. Here is what she told me:
"It is the need to feel affirmed; [the] need to be aware of the contributions made by other Blacks; need to have role models; need to understand the social forces which have shaped and influenced their community and their identities as a means of feeling connected to the educational experience and their life experience. The need to feel empowered. The greater community needs to know their history and that includes all of the founding and pioneering experiences in order to work from reality, rather than perception alone."
I asked her, "Isn't that what people of every color need and want?"
She said yes. So, I am baffled as to why a black history month is needed. She would say no more.
How did Black History month start and why?
Sounds racist to me when you try to exclude white people.
I would suggest you do some research. Did you get a look at tht White History thread. Take note of what the participants are doing here as opposed to there.
I wanted to mention that I don't understand how someone can enter a Thread and respond and show up as unknown. This should not be permitted. I expect to see and be permitted to view each reply here.
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| 1/28/2009 6:40:47 AM |
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knightnyte2
Spring, TX
age: 57
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This Thread isn't racist and like you said the only reason why you posted is because the trouble maker came to you. I don't know what good you could do other than play her patsy. If you were interested in the truth of this immature behavior you would trace the history of the individual and ask her what her problem is. I ignored her in hopes that someone else would address her because her interactions with me have been consistently sarcastic without provocation. As I stated before she held me blocked for a month or more only to unblock me to harass me as well as her groupies. It is very juvenile and my mother did not act that childish at that age. The point in this Black History Observance is to promote a learning experience. I had wished to post something for Dr. Martin Luther King actual birthday but it proved to be a hectic time for me. Therefore, I decided to pesent this information a few days earlier. There was no ill will in my heart when I decided to do this as I stated before a friend sent me an email with a collection of Black History materials and it was just too massive to post here. So I opted to present a few things throughout the month. It turned out to be a great thing in bringing together members who embraced the opportunity to share and enlighten one another, However, it was because of one it began to sour the experience.
Speak up against racism don't speak up against Black History. In the larger cities they have various ethnic day celebrations it doesn't mean those people are racist. Be careful how we throw that word around, its just a cop out to avoid responsible ways to communicate.
who said anything labeling a trouble maker? only you!
eight, i have no problem with recognizing contributions of Americans. this OP opened this topic and expected what? When you play in fire, you'll get burned.
why does she post topics like this knowing the repercussions she'll get from other posters? she labeled that a 'trouble maker' came to me. Geesh, anyone can read this thread. The topic was opened to discussion simply by posting in a public forum. Dare me to post something?
wouldn't you agree, that posting a topic about Good Americans allowing all to share something from all races, would have been a better idea instead of this racist thread?
anyway, you guys can post how much you deserve this thread all you wish. I'm done...
peace... don't be hatin'
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| 1/28/2009 7:33:47 AM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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like i said, i wasn't even going to post on this thread until complaints came about it being a little unfair. if you'll notice, I do not post on threads I consider racist. it doesnt mean I do not read some of them..
peace... don't be hatin'
This is the seventh time you have entered this Thread and you have not offered anything as it pertains to the subject, instead you have accused me repeatedly about posting racist threads without anything to support your accusations. Right now this is bordering on harassment due to continued disruption without any relevant contribution to the subject at hand. If at anytime you decide to have a mature conversation with me about your concerns let me know because at this time the only thing you are doing is implying that this is racist you have received complaints. Where are you facts to support this? Now, Do we really need to continue to interrupt this Thread to address these issues of yours or shall we move on and allow others to partcipate harmoniously.
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| 1/28/2009 4:03:32 PM |
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rayw4u
Council Bluffs, IA
age: 54
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Bob Marley, Michael Jackson, Maruv Gaye, Lena Horn, George Washington Carver, Robert Cray, Sammy Davis Jr, Miles Davis and John Wayne's collie were all black and contributed lots to society.
Arealady, I never studied black history. Never studied white history either.
I do remember having this book read to me.
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| 1/28/2009 7:49:09 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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This is the seventh time you have entered this Thread and you have not offered anything as it pertains to the subject, instead you have accused me repeatedly about posting racist threads without anything to support your accusations. Right now this is bordering on harassment due to continued disruption without any relevant contribution to the subject at hand. If at anytime you decide to have a mature conversation with me about your concerns let me know because at this time the only thing you are doing is implying that this is racist you have received complaints. Where are you facts to support this? Now, Do we really need to continue to interrupt this Thread to address these issues of yours or shall we move on and allow others to partcipate harmoniously.
It's too bad that your lessons were limited to only the teachings of Indian culture such as the indian boy Sambo. As you stated you are familiar with some famous black people through televison or radio. so you were fortunate to learn of some great black people in your lifetime.
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| 1/29/2009 6:50:00 PM |
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wonderwhy
Westminster, CO
age: 26
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A lesson to be learned here.
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| 1/29/2009 7:21:36 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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As you can see the patsy has arrived.
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| 1/29/2009 7:30:37 PM |
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ylekiot
Stateline, NV
age: 54
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As you can see the patsy has arrived.
Aww come on, Morgan is good people.
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| 1/29/2009 7:41:11 PM |
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osoroho
Mesquite, TX
age: 60
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Yeah Morgan is a great actor and fine human
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| 1/29/2009 7:48:55 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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Aww come on, Morgan is good people.
Of course Morgan Freeman is good people but the messenger should have stayed over in the other section where subject matter lack any unity or relevance just pure hectic spewing of words. I was speaking of that OP's patsy but you well knew that didn't you?
Morgan Freeman Born June 1, 1937. Extremely popular Black actor starred in Driving Miss Daisy, Dark Knight, Sum of All Fears to name a few,
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| 1/29/2009 8:02:42 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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I guess we are moving on to the subjects of Great Black Actors and Actresses
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| 1/30/2009 10:53:45 AM |
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wonderwhy
Westminster, CO
age: 26
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Jungle Fever  Except she is part white like obama
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| 1/30/2009 11:35:22 AM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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If Halle Berry had not in her acceptance speech refer to herself as a woman of color then naming black women "like her" as in her own words. I would not have stated that she was black.
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| 1/30/2009 2:58:41 PM |
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areallady1
Pittsburgh, PA
age: 45
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What comes to mind when I see a picture like this is suffering and sacrifices. Steven Spielberg is a remarkable producer and has written and produced phenomenal movies for black people. One movie that closely portrays slavery and the fight for freedom is Amistead. Matthew McConaughey Morgan Freeman Anthony Hopkins a few of the great actors in this movie.
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| 1/30/2009 3:25:38 PM |
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osoroho
Mesquite, TX
age: 60
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Are the chained men from Africa or Australia?????
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