is chivalry really dead?

5/20/2009 9:14:47 AM	is chivalry really dead?
sweet_li Orlando, FL age: 44	of all of the men i've dated and been in relationships with, only two of them opened doors for me and pulled out the chair when i went to sit down. i know that there are a lot of women (myself included) that love it when a man behaves in a chivalrous manner with them. i also realize that we're in a new era now and that there are some women out there who actually would mind if a guy treated them like a gentleman (maybe they're feminists or just don't believe in that kind of thing, i don't know...). i imagine this confuses a lot of guys and this makes them unsure of what to do or how to treat a woman when they're out on a date. so, how about it guys? is chivalry dead? and if it isn't, why do so many women complain about men not behaving like a gentleman towards them? are you chivalrous towards any woman you date, or do you believe in 'gender equality' and let your date open her own door or pull out her own chair? For Guys ONLY: here's a fun quiz i got from Esquire.com! take it and see for yourself just how chivalrous YOU really are! when you're done, come back and tell us what your score was. Start with –5. Add or subtract points for each answer. 1. On a date: a. You always pay for dinner. (+5) b. Even on your birthday. (+15) c. But you make her pay for what she's eaten off your plate. (–20) 2. You're on the street and a woman is attacked. You: a. Confront the attacker. (+20) b. Look around for someone strong and brave. (+2) c. Shout, "Hey, stop that!" (–5) d. Twice. (–10) 3. The person who best represents how you think women should be treated is: a. Mullah Mohammed Omar, head of the Taliban movement. (–50) b. Henry VIII. (–15) c. Giovanni Casanova. (+5) d. Oprah. (+20) 4. If you were lame enough to have a ringtone, it would be: a. "Face Down Ass Up," by 2 Live Crew. (–20) b. "Girls," by Beastie Boys. (–10) c. "Glory of Love," by Peter Cetera. (+10) d. The version of "Glory of Love" you wrote for your wife. (+25) 5. You're sitting down on a crowded subway car. You would offer your seat to: (Choose all that apply.) a. a pregnant woman. (+3) b. an elderly woman. (+5) c. a man with long hair. (+10) 6. Someone grabs your girlfriend's a at a bar. You: a. Punch anyone who won't make eye contact. (+10) b. Stand by her while she does. (+5) c. Tell her it was probably accidental and she needs to relax. (–5) d. Collect the five bucks, ask your friend if it was worth it. (–40) 7. At your birthday, your intoxicated wife slips and bangs her head really hard. You: a. Take her to the hospital and insist that she did not ruin your birthday. (+20) b. Lay her down on a pile of coats and tell her to close her eyes for a few hours. (+5) c. Ask her why she always has to be the center of attention. (–10) 8. You're camping and a grizzly bear appears. You: a. Tell her to run, then make yourself seem as big as possible, like they showed you on Discovery. (+20) b. Run, telling her to make herself seem as big as possible like they showed you on Discovery. (–20) 9. If a woman were an automobile, she'd be: a. a Lexus, elegant, with plenty to love under the hood. (+5) b. a 1967 Shelby Cobra, a privilege to experience, worthy of constant pampering. (+15) c. a Jeep, palatable in most situations, best when dirty. (–5) d. a minivan, utilitarian, slightly embarrassing, best for holding children. (–20) 10. At Thanksgiving dinner, your uncle suggests your girlfriend should abstain from a second helping of mashed potatoes. You: a. Take another serving yourself as a sign of solidarity. (+10) b. Tell him he's out of line. (+5) c. Suggest the green beans. (–10) 11. If you were an animal, you would be: a. a New Zealand paddle crab. (They eat their mates while mating with them.) (–50) b. a blue crab. (They hold their women in a pre-mating embrace to protect them as they're molting.) (+10) c. a black vulture. (Philandering vultures are attacked by other vultures.) (+20) d. a sea horse. (Males carry the babies. Lucky bastards!) (+30) Key: More than 100 points: Congratulations! You belong in the esteemed ranks of Prince Charming and Sir Lancelot. And if you're not getting walked all over, at least you're getting laid. 50 to 100: You're in the ranks of Sir Mix-a-Lot. But since we've been forced to lower our standards, you'll probably do okay. Less than 50: Dck.*
5/20/2009 9:21:42 AM	is chivalry really dead?
hsprin Savannah, MO age: 33	Well I wouldn't say that it is dead but it is dying for sure. And most men don't know what it really is. However, I was with a guy friend Saturday night that always opens my car door whether or not I am driving or he is. And my daughter went with us and he did it for her too and buckled her up. He opens any and all doors where we go in. Does the chair thing. Bought our dinner and another girls who's bday it was, even not asked or expected. Carried my daughter too the car who was tired and in the house as well. etc etc list goes on. He is very sweet, one of the good ones that are left. He is very respectful and nice. Maybe boardline too nice.
5/20/2009 9:22:45 AM	is chivalry really dead?
maryg2 Philadelphia, PA age: 39	any man that is a REAL gentleman will do those things for a lady still...and i think most do that ive encountered. i dont expect a guy to kiss my butt and do everything...but along the same lines, its nice to be treated w/respect and shows manners. its wondering if they will sometimes still do that once u r exclusive w/them....cuz usually after 6 mos. forget it, they r like "open your own damn door!".... ooh, that looks like a long test. glad its for the guys!....but have fun.
5/20/2009 9:23:51 AM	is chivalry really dead?
in_doubtalishis Beaumont, CA age: 34	Its so far buried it will never be found again. You might find it exists very rarely in like a 95 year old man
5/20/2009 9:24:38 AM	is chivalry really dead?
hsprin Savannah, MO age: 33	I know an older couple that he is just crazy in love with his wife, and of course she him. But he still opens her car door EVERYTIME for her. It is very sweet.
5/20/2009 9:26:07 AM	is chivalry really dead?
darlinshel Clayton, NC age: 41	Wow only 2? I guess I have been lucky...men I have dated and even male friends have always held the door open. Pulling out the chair is not so common anymore, but I have had it done for me - usually in a more formal setting. There are men that run around the car to open the door too. It's just being courteous I think - I will hold the door open if I get to it first LOL. I've never understood why anyone would be insulted if someone was being nice to them...I guess they feel threatened in some way.
5/20/2009 9:29:24 AM	is chivalry really dead?
goodgato Fort Lauderdale, FL age: 44	No it isn't. Regardless of age, the men I've dated have ALL done those things (chairs, doors) for me. I think it's how they're raised. Their parents either had manners and modeled/reinforced those behaviors or they just had the misfortune of being raised like cafone. Chivalrous manners can always be learned though, if the desire is there.
5/20/2009 9:41:30 AM	is chivalry really dead?
moozie Southfield, MI age: 49	I know its not dead with me. Its the way I was raised. I always offer my seat to a lady--no lady should stand while a man sits. Opening doors are automatic. If that makes me borderline too nice well so be it
5/20/2009 9:45:39 AM	is chivalry really dead?
allarrimer Houston, TX age: 31	I have a man who is very much a gentlman. Opens doors, pulls seats out, even stands when i leave the table...... I teach my boys to do all the same things, and am extremely happy to have an example they can learn from!! they whine at me and ask, "but MOM why?!!" i just smile and tell them, " one day you will thank me, and because I said so!!"
5/20/2009 9:47:50 AM	is chivalry really dead?
stillabubba Milwaukee, WI age: 54	i dont think its dead,but more like dormant.some of us are waiting out the results of the womans liberation movement to see if its safe to still offer to do things for a lady.ive actualy had ladies tell me they arent crippled and trying to get to the car door first is a bother to them.lol.worst was trying to be the man in a bar situation just like in the questions,so?what should a man do.my thoughts are to stand at her side and let her slap a guy silly for grabbin ass.there again i was told that she could take care of herself and didnt need me even stepping up.its still in most of us but the next generations may kill it,by the lack of respect and encouragement im seeing in the 20 yr olds now.just for the record,i scored a 135.
5/20/2009 9:49:34 AM	is chivalry really dead?
evileddy Ottawa, ON age: 36	It's not dead for ladies... but for most of you "women" ya.. you've killed it.
5/20/2009 9:53:28 AM	is chivalry really dead?
raydawg300 Bedford, OH age: 27	quote from Dave Chapelle......"Chivalry is dead.....and women killed it!"
5/20/2009 9:55:55 AM	is chivalry really dead?
mrbillmrbill Mesa, AZ age: 64	I must be getting old. Still open doors for women, will not let them pay for a meal, coffee, movie etc. and instinctively try to protect them. My MOTHER raised me that way so if Chilvery is dead you gals my look at the way you raised your own sons!
5/20/2009 9:58:46 AM	is chivalry really dead?
kinkycapitalist Atlanta, GA age: 54	Seen many dragons lately?
5/20/2009 10:04:10 AM	is chivalry really dead?
darlinshel Clayton, NC age: 41	Quote from stillabubba: i dont think its dead,but more like dormant.some of us are waiting out the results of the womans liberation movement to see if its safe to still offer to do things for a lady.ive actualy had ladies tell me they arent crippled and trying to get to the car door first is a bother to them.lol.worst was trying to be the man in a bar situation just like in the questions,so?what should a man do.my thoughts are to stand at her side and let her slap a guy silly for grabbin ass.there again i was told that she could take care of herself and didnt need me even stepping up.its still in most of us but the next generations may kill it,by the lack of respect and encouragement im seeing in the 20 yr olds now.just for the record,i scored a 135. To me, if someone acts like that, it means they go through life thinking they always have to prove themselves to everyone. There are men that act that way too, in different situations of course. It's just the type of person they are (woman or man) and does not apply to everyone. If a man wants to treat me like a lady, I'm ALL for it. I respond better to a man that treats women with respect - I have much more respect for those type of men. I am much more relaxed around them. I don't expect just to take take take either (stating that before the ones that always scream that come in LOL). When I say respond better, I mean I go out of my way to do things for him as well.

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