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1/18/2008 6:41:53 PM My Name Is Packmother  

packmother
Hudson, NY
age: 64


Ok. Let's get it out in the open. Let's set up a place where whoever has something to say can say it. Frankly I have had enough of the nonsense.
Day one I spent the day defending myself from the attacks of Lawvixen, Lotus, and Sugah. When they were proved wrong that was the end. so I thought.
Now I have Cottage doing the same thing. I am not going to put up this. If anyone has anything to say, now is the time to say it. This is nonsense.
From where I sit, the sun goes down and there has to be someone to attack. Lat night it was Pylgram and Soparno, tonight I guess it is my turn.
Honestly, I am ask for your honesty. If this is what this site is about tell me, and at the same time everyone else. So who wants to be first.

1/18/2008 6:46:11 PM My Name Is Packmother  

packmother
Hudson, NY
age: 64


No one has anything to say. Why not, because it is out in the open?

1/18/2008 6:50:27 PM My Name Is Packmother  

packmother
Hudson, NY
age: 64




1/18/2008 6:56:53 PM My Name Is Packmother  

packmother
Hudson, NY
age: 64




1/18/2008 7:20:21 PM My Name Is Packmother  

packmother
Hudson, NY
age: 64




1/18/2008 8:44:36 PM My Name Is Packmother  

packmother
Hudson, NY
age: 64


As it looks like no one wishes to say anything. I will say, Great.
I hope this has been put into the trash where it belongs.
I wish everone a wonderful night.

1/19/2008 5:06:26 AM My Name Is Packmother  

weaimtoplease
Donalsonville, GA
age: 58


OK - I'll be the first to take your challenge. There has been quite a lot of "FIGHTING" in this group and there have been numerous threads and posts to try to get us all to get along. I have not posted to any of these because I agree that we should all try to get along. YOU have started several threads and posted on this topic. IMHO, you don't want the fighting to end based on those posts and again with this thread. I reread several of the early threads in their entirety before posting this and that confirmed my belief that you are Herself and, once again, are attempting to create problems. At no point did those you named "attack" you, they merely asked you if you had reinvented yourself. As a matter of fact, in one of the first threads where you said that you were attacked you said that you would stay but not in the +50 group because there were many other groups/forums. Bottom line, if you feel that you are not welcome and being attacked by this group (and that is YOUR opinion -not mine) then why continue to post?

1/19/2008 5:14:33 AM My Name Is Packmother  

thepkk
Springfield, MO
age: 52


Wondering the same thing as weaim is. Are you trying to cause trouble? Don't feel like it today. Go somewhere else to fight. Please.

1/19/2008 5:44:43 AM My Name Is Packmother  

bluboy
Elsberry, MO
age: 56


To be fair, though your words. You think, talk, look, PROTEST and don't understand things like her. I must agree, hard to believe your not Herself. But, I REALLY don't care who you are or not ...

So, your saying your name is really Packmother "My name is Packmother". My name is Bluford W. Smith but go and been call many names....

And then you have people, who its all about me, me, me.... Yeahing and beatimg thier chess, "SEE HOW GREAT I AM". I still rememember the days when kids would be playing on play grounds having fun.. Never fails, some Bully will come along, who is and knows ALL.. Tell them they are not playing the game right and let me show you how. Still happens and goes on TODAY, even in the grown up world...



Seem to have been put in trash and someone keeps bring it up.......

Later, Blu.



[Edited 1/19/2008 5:45:56 AM]

1/19/2008 6:19:46 AM My Name Is Packmother  

packmother
Hudson, NY
age: 64


Thank you to everyone who posted here.
When I posted this last night it was so that I would get the input you have given, and so that the same input would not take another thread that I had posted into the gutter, so again Thank You.
Let'd go thriugh it.
1. You do not feel that I was attacked. I do. When someone puts another in any defensive position that person had been attacked. The first day I came onto this site it was stated that I was this person Herself. However after much banter about who she was, her spelling,her location none of which matched mine; it seemed to end.
About this I will say. I do not see where anyone on here has the right to question who I am or who anybody else is. How dare any person without the proper credentials ever ask such a thing, or accuse someone of such a thing. Being that is the cae, I then suggest no one on here is who they say they are, and by your standards I WANT PROOF, you are who you say. Now really, is that not silly. Your rules, not mine!
2. I went back thru threads I could find written by this person and what I did see was there was a group of people on here that basically did not like her. What I did not see was the reason. It APPEARS, as perhaps the dislike came from behind the scenes emails that I cannot see, that the only reason you did not like her was she had the nerve to question, in general, what was happening on the site. That would lead me to believe that you enjoy the problems here, have no want; no matter what you state, for it to ever be any different. That is fine, but don't you think it would much more adult and honest to POST that at the door.
3. At this point, no one seems to know where this person had gone. I would like to know. However I cannot get that information. That being sad, I will guess that the PACK 9that is funny) of you here who to choose to make attacks drove her off. I will state that;while you think we are similar, or the same; I am not someone who gets driven off by anyone. Much less by a group of sad people collected on an internet site whose only social outlest is that site, thus this is then their life.
4. Finally with everything said, I will say very sadly that I feel sorry for those of who who have done this. It is a shame that you feel the need to do so. It would seem that if you have these energies they could be put to such as use that you could improve your life and maybe that of others instead of the sad way you are spending them.
Again, I do thank you. If nothing else you have given me your true fellings, it makes me sad that you feel that way. But it will make my time here easier. I would ask one thing of you PLEASE if I should be having an exchange with someone, and you feel it necessary to somehow attack me again, please make it to me and do not include them, it is unfair to me, but even more unfair to them.



Note to Blu.
I had hope it was gone. I can't be someone I am not, so I cannot apologize for being who I am. Yes, it keeps getting brought back up. I would have to think there is yet another reason other than who I am. It is also always brought back up by women. Maybe the answer lies there.



[Edited 1/19/2008 6:22:41 AM]

1/19/2008 8:42:31 AM My Name Is Packmother  

dakotaman222
Sioux Falls, SD
age: 50


Hey Pack! I might be Herself too! lol I often seem to be on the outside looking in at many things. I try not to attack, but also feel very strongly about my freedom to say what I think. I have been in the middle of several controversial issues. The funniest thing I found is that when some people agreed with me they would only do it in a private email at the risk of upsetting the others on this site. GET THIS PEOPLE! There are people out here with opposite opinions, but they are afraid to say so because they might get blocked or ridiculed or worse!!!! Thats sad.
This is a slippery slope some are on. Hard to stop when it gets started.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
P.S. I did block Pylgram once, but had no idea that it would stop him from posting. I just didn't want private email from this guy.

P.S.S. I was Herself in real life. So y'all get off of Packs back please!



[Edited 1/19/2008 8:44:04 AM]

1/19/2008 8:52:54 AM My Name Is Packmother  

packmother
Hudson, NY
age: 64


Dakota,
PLEASE BE HERSELF. I am finding hard to be her, have to admit I haven't tried, but maybe I should! But if you want to be her, please feel free. One thing I have wondered about is can you read these posts without everyone knowing you are? I really don't care, but if you can. I see this person, Herself, sitting wherever she is, don't remember where I was told, reading and laughing herself off her chair!
The difference I think between she and I is I am not going away, as I guess she did. I am a woman, not a cow or sheep that gets driven.
I don't really know anyone here, and there may be afew I will never want to know, I also don't understand the block concept, so what you did to the chap known as Pylgram I don't really understand. I have gotten some very nasty email, one from someone who couldn't be a part of the 50s because of his age, but was standing behind a friend he stated. I can only feel that that is their right. As it is mine to respond or not. I guess it is like that saying, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
hope you have a great day.


Oh THANK YOU DAKOTA MAN!!!!!
And god will smile on you for standing up and telling the truth. You have been saved! You have also saved us all from the wrath of being HERSELF! AMEN! AMEN!

I am sorry. but when I read that I lost it. PLEASE, what I said is a JOKE, not meant to be taken SERIOUS.
thank you



[Edited 1/19/2008 8:57:33 AM]

1/19/2008 9:01:46 AM My Name Is Packmother  

lotsafuninpa
Tioga, PA
age: 66


Packmother, I truly believe you are not that other person. I don't have any idea why people choose to attack others on here,just because they can.

The name calling has gone on for months,and the ones who want it to stop--can't see they are keeping it going. The thread where folks wrote down what wonderful things they had done for others in their life--was wonderful--the things they did were very nice.
Why can't they just treat people on here the same way--instead of having these so called cliques--YEP--THAT'S RIGHT CLIQUES--which I will be no part of--And i could write who you are,but you already know:

Now people are being called mentally ill,perverts, trolls,People who think they are Chritian, etc. name calling is just exactly what you wanted to stop--What's up with that.???
AS has already been said this is a free site-and To keep it going I believe folks need to get out of these cliques---look at themselves honestly--then treat others as they would want to be treated. That is the one and only way this will ever stop.
I really feel sorry for people who feel the need to be so mean to folks,and try to push others out of here,so they can have this site all to themselves.
It is a sad time right now--for those who are habitually treated bad on here.

Why not be friends with everyone? If you really want a good site here--try treating everyone the same.


MHO--This is exactly how I feel,and hope I have hurt noone in the process. That is not my intent. Those who relly know me--know I am not that mean,but I will tell others what I THINK WILL HELP. MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO ALL OF YOU--HUGSSSSSS--Pat.

1/19/2008 9:13:12 AM My Name Is Packmother  

dakotaman222
Sioux Falls, SD
age: 50


Lotsa! You and I have disagreed on several things and I have never disliked you because of it. I can accept that we have differing opinions and respect your intelligence.
Being an American we have earned the right to say what we think. Moreover, people have fought and died for that right. Now we have a few that want to live in lollipopland, where clouds are fluffy white cotton candy and we strongly resemble Smurfs. Welcome to real life to all the ladies that will disagree with me and the men who think agreeing will mean they might get lucky!
I like your post Pack. Let this be a forum for open conversation and lets see which member of the Axis of Evil pops in to put us down! Ooooops They have already been here! PKK felt the need to come into a thread that she disagreed with to shove her feelings down other peoples throats. The great thing is no one blocked her or attacked her (until now).
Since Elfie stated her point several times, I will state a point that I have stated several times.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING THAT IS SAID IGNORE IT!
What PKK did is the exact thing that is being argued in the other threads. She came into a post that she didn't like and took a differing opinion and gave us her opinion. Should she be blocked for trying to start an argument? and id she wasn't trying to start and argument what was the reason that she felt the need to respond?



[Edited 1/19/2008 9:22:18 AM]

1/19/2008 9:13:54 AM My Name Is Packmother  

packmother
Hudson, NY
age: 64


Lotsa
Thank you.
In all honesty at this point I am glad that people who see what they think is the truth have come foward and stated it. It makes my time here easier. I won't go into their space or threads to cause them any upset. They have as much right as anyone else, myself included, to be here and enjoy the time they spend here. I wish them well, and actually harbor no ill feeling towards them. I will not however, ever stand for being attacked. If other who feel as the ones who stated their feeling here will just show me the respect that I am showing others I see no reason for any more problem. I truly hope this will come to an end.
Thank you once more.


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