| 3/14/2008 11:23:45 PM |
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queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
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Once again there are christian forums for christians to push the bible. Please respect that this is not that place.
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| 3/15/2008 3:54:53 PM |
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sekhmetvotaress
Hemet, CA
age: 33
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Once again I am having trouble sleeping and have...had a difficult week. Will be posting more to the Book of the Law and the Myths (on the other thread) as soon as my mind and body start cooperating with the rest of me.
They really do not want to cooperate.
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| 3/15/2008 8:03:20 PM |
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queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
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Thinking of You Sek and wishing you wellness.
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| 3/16/2008 8:30:29 PM |
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jayem
Hay Springs, NE
age: 64
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 If “The Book of the Law” is worth following, it will bear the scrutiny of serious questioning. If it is not, may I ask, do you want to believe it?
On what authority does the Book of the Law rest?
How reliable is that authority?
Is the inspiration from Aiwass authoritative?
What events in ancient history substantiate this authority?
Is there a greater authority to which Aiwass is subject?
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| 3/16/2008 9:36:33 PM |
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sekhmetvotaress
Hemet, CA
age: 33
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Jayem has been banned from posting. Why? Well, because this is the Other Religion forum - not the Christian Everything-Must-Come-From-the-Bible forum.
See - I don't f*ck around.
Not at all.
As a matter of fact, I am a big fat meanie.
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| 3/16/2008 9:59:42 PM |
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sekhmetvotaress
Hemet, CA
age: 33
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part IV contintued...
How this new Aeon of Horus will develop, how the Child will grow up, these are for us to determine, growing up ourselves in the way of the Law of Thelema under the enlightened guidance of the Master Therion.
V.
The Next Step
Democracy dodders.
Ferocious Fascism, cackling Communism, equally frauds, cavort crazily all over the globe.
They are hemming us in.
They are abortive births of the Child, the New Aeon of Horus.
Liberty stirs once more in the womb of Time.
Evolution makes its changes by anti-Socialistic ways. The 'abnormal' man who foresees the trend of the times and adapts circumstance intelligently, is laughed at, persecuted, often destroyed by the herd; but he and his heirs, when the crisis comes, are survivors.
(Sekh here: Shaman and Indian - I am thinking of you two as I type this...)
Above us today hangs a danger never yet paralleled in history. We suppress the individual in more and more ways. We think in terms of the herd. War no longer kills soldiers; it kills all indiscriminately. Every new measure of the most democratic and autocratic governments is Communistic in essence. It is always restriction. We are all treated as imbecile children. Dora, the Shops Act, the Motoring Laws, Sunday Suffocation, the Censorship - they won't trust us to cross the roads at will.
Fascism is like Communism, and dishonest into the bargain. The dictators suppress all art, literature, theatre, music, news, that does not meet their requirements; yet the world only moves by the light of genius. The herd will be destroyed in mass.
The establishment of the Law of Thelema is the only way to preserve individual liberty and to assure the future of the race.
In the words of the famous paradox of the Comte de Fenix - The absolute rule of the state shall be a function of the absolute liberty of each individual will.
All men and women are invited to co-operate with the Master Therion in this, the Great Work.
Liber Al Vel Legis: Love is the Law, Love Under Will.
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| 3/16/2008 10:03:31 PM |
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sekhmetvotaress
Hemet, CA
age: 33
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What I have posted so far is - for the most part - the preface to the actual text. You would understand this if you had the book. The actual text is something else altogether. There are many concepts that many of you will find repugnant. That is okay. The point of posting this is for all of us to step outside ourselves and look at the world differently.
DB has spoken of the horrible things people have done in the name of this book. I would like to say that I am not, and you are not, and we are not responsible for the Will of another. We are only responsible for ourselves. If I was to sit around and worry what everyone else was doing I would be a lot more psychotic than I already am.
None of us are responsible for the Manson family. None of us are responsible for Koresh, or Jim Jones and his People's Temple.
Only ourselves.
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| 3/16/2008 10:07:42 PM |
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sekhmetvotaress
Hemet, CA
age: 33
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The Text of the Book of the Law
1.) Had! The manifestation of Nuit.
2.) The unveiling of the company of heaven.
3.) Every man and every woman is a star.
4.) Every number is infinite; there is no difference.
....More later...
Liber Al Vel Legis: Love is the Law, Love Under Will.
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| 3/16/2008 10:45:22 PM |
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jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 53 online now!
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sekhmet:
None of us are responsible for the Manson family. None of us are responsible for Koresh, or Jim Jones and his People's Temple. Only ourselves.
So sekhmet, if it is that individually, collectively we create our own reality in our world, how do you explain that we did not create the reality of the consciousness of the planet that we are currently living with right now? With the violence wars, disease etc., etc., etc.
We all created what we are witnessing before our eyes, we all are responsible for what is taking place in our world. Our collective consciousness created the circumstances that we are faced with and find ourselves in today. We are all responsible for healing it aswell, individually, collectively.
As much as you may not want to believe it, we all in fact, did create our circumstances and we are all responsible for what you quoted above and alot more. By understanding this is the only way we are going to get ourselves out of this mess and that is what the harmonic convergence is all about.
That is exactly what 2012 and the raising of our consciousness is all about, as we move into a higher vibrational frequency in order so that we all may live in peace and harmony together with each other and our planet.
We all are responsible individually, with our collective consciousness, the ones who have created our world in which we are finding ourselves in. That just shows you how messed up our collective consciouness is, and how much it has been screwed with by a very nefarious agenda from way back in time to get us to do our own demise.
Though I would say, alot of it is not entirely our fault, because we have had alot of help and were screwed with in a big way from a dumbing down process through alien visitation and genetic manipulation that has had a great deal to do with why we find ourselves in this mess. It is about to drastically change and is changing, with the help of the frequency increase from our coming into alignment of galaxic center of the photon belt.
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| 3/16/2008 10:53:20 PM |
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sekhmetvotaress
Hemet, CA
age: 33
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Jewelz: I think you misunderstand me. Completely. Yes - as a collective we are responsible for those things...but as individuals I am not.
As a society we are responsible for disease, war, and famine. But as an individual I am not.
I will not argue the point with you. There is no point to it. I am also not responsible for how *you* think or feel. And I am not going to worry about it, either.
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| 3/16/2008 11:16:36 PM |
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jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 53 online now!
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I don't think I completely misunderstood you at all, and I never expected to argue any points because I don't argue. Those are your words. I do agree with you that you are not repsonsible for how 'I' think, nor am I responsible for how 'you' think. I understand that.
What you did not recognize that I was saying is that these characters like manson, jones etc., for example, you and I created. I don't think you get that, but that is ok. I don't need to convince you of anything, I was simply pointing it out.
Just as I was pointing out that you and I can heal that situation also. I don't know if you see that either, but that is ok too. If it helps you to understand, we are all one. There is no seperation.
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| 3/16/2008 11:21:03 PM |
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sekhmetvotaress
Hemet, CA
age: 33
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Oh I get you. Completely. But this discussion is really focusing on the individual - not the collective. I do not want to repeat that. But I will if necessary. I would hope you can respect that. This is for individual growth. Savvy?
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| 3/17/2008 12:27:38 AM |
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jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 53 online now!
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Oh certainly, I must have missed something in your thread posting instructions somewhere about this discussion where it is really focussing on the individual growth. I did not understand how closely I needed to follow your criteria for participating.
Excuse me for mentioning anything whatsoever about a collective thought, which would lend to any further understanding with our individual growth. Heavens forbid your discussion focusing on the individual, apparently got carried way off track evidently.
For goodness sakes, I don't want you to have to repeat your request. I make it a habit not to participate with control freaks anyway. I could not have guessed that the difference with 2 words would have caused so much of a problem for you, with me posting in your thread about something so closely related in order to discribe something, especially since you found yourself responding. I must be more careful where I lay down my ink in an open forum I suppose.
I can see it is rather upsetting to you, so I will gladly leave your thread so you can maintain your hungry power over your subject matter in order for you to keep control so as not to bruise your sensitive ego any further.
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| 3/17/2008 5:14:33 AM |
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stringsvrs
Syracuse, NY
age: 51 online now!
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Happy Monday Morning Sisters and Brothers All
So nice to see beautiful faces smiling and taking in the suns rays
sekhmetvotaress
Hemet, CA
age: 33
Jewelz: I think you misunderstand me. Completely. Yes - as a collective we are responsible for those things...but as individuals I am not.
As a society we are responsible for disease, war, and famine. But as an individual I am not.
I will not argue the point with you. There is no point to it. I am also not responsible for how *you* think or feel. And I am not going to worry about it, either.
Disease and famine are natural occurrences which human life have had no influence over their existence. War on the other hand is our creation.
Individually and collectively I do believe that we are responsible for the dissolution of the three, or the reigning in of it until it is stagnant.
As for Love Under Will :
I do not agree with the perception of Love becoming a weapon so it must be suppressed by Will. Realizing this is your understanding of it I leave it to that.
Will continue viewing.....
Have a blessed day of Peace and Love
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| 3/17/2008 2:14:21 PM |
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sekhmetvotaress
Hemet, CA
age: 33
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String: Have you ever had someone turn your love for them as weapon against you? I have.
In that case, Will must trump love. ( "If you love me...you will..." )
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