Is Hell literal, or is it figurative? 16

4/2/2008 7:24:40 PM	Is Hell literal, or is it figurative?
baydreamer7 Lancaster, PA age: 47	Zac, You keep going back to the verse that refers to every knee bowing and every tongue confessing that Jesus is Lord. Why does this necessarily refer to believers? Even the demons recognize Jesus Christ for who He is and tremble. I believe that even those who refuse to accept the free gift of salvation will one day (albeit too late) acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, Savior of the world. That does not mean they will be saved from eternal seperation from God. Isn't there another verse that says "You call me Lord, Lord, but I knew you not"
4/3/2008 7:17:15 AM	Is Hell literal, or is it figurative?
zacman555 Navarre, FL age: 50	Bay, Well, every means every doesn't it? Everyone will confess Christ is Lord to the glory of the Father. The OT version uses the word swear, as in swearing allegence. I also quote several other passages. God will be all in all for example. * Isaiah 26:9 KJV With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early : for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. "For the earnest expectation of the creation waits FOR THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS OF GOD" (Rom. 8:19). "Or are you not aware that the saints [the manifested Sons and Daughters of God] shall JUDGE THE WORLD? And if the world shall be judged by YOU, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?" (I Cor. 6:2). "And I saw thrones and they sat upon them, and JUDGMENT was given unto them [the saints, the manifested Sons of God]…" (Rev. 20:4). [Edited 4/3/2008 7:27:59 AM]
4/3/2008 5:09:57 PM	Is Hell literal, or is it figurative?
lotsafuninpa Tioga, PA age: 67	Zacman, I just read your message to me and tried to answer you--but it came up there was an error on the page. But anyway I have never blocked anyone on anything in this site--never. We all have our own oppinions and that is our right. If we disagree that does not mean we have to be enemies--THat is how I believe anyway. So sorry if you thought for some reason I blocked you. Have a good evening----lotsafun
4/3/2008 5:31:21 PM	Is Hell literal, or is it figurative?
baydreamer7 Lancaster, PA age: 47	Zac, you missed the point of my post. I can confess that George W Bush is the president of the United States. I can submit myself to his authority as a citizen of the United States and I can recognize him as the leader of this country. That doesn't automatically mean that I am a believer in George W Bush! In the end, when Christ returns for his church, I do believe that everyone will finally realize and acknowledge who He truly is, some with great joy (believers) and some with great sorrow (unbelievers) because they refused to believe in Him until it was too late. Just because your knee may bow and your tongue may confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord, may not necessarily mean that you have made him Lord of your life.
4/4/2008 6:03:21 AM	Is Hell literal, or is it figurative?
zacman555 Navarre, FL age: 50	Lotsafun, I thought that was strange, thanks for the clarification. Bay, * 1 Corinthians 12:3 KJV Wherefore I give you to understand , that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. I notice you said they refuse to believe in Him until it is too late. First of all, when does it ever say it is too late in scripture? Nowhere does it say people can't be corrected, and repent during the judgment. Second, how about all of the people who have never heard throughout history? How about children who died? How about the retarded? etc etc. * 1 Corinthians 3:15 KJV If any man's work shall be burned , he shall suffer loss : but he himself shall be saved ; yet so as by fire. [Edited 4/4/2008 6:09:52 AM]
4/4/2008 1:04:51 PM	Is Hell literal, or is it figurative?
lotsafuninpa Tioga, PA age: 67	zac, you are trying to make the gospel too hard. It's really very easy to explain. There will be a day when it will be too late; What about the Anti christs?? Why do you think they would shopw up---other than to decieve people. God bless everyone--hugs--lotsafun
4/4/2008 6:29:37 PM	Is Hell literal, or is it figurative?
baydreamer7 Lancaster, PA age: 47	Zac, Here is an exerpt from an article on a great website: www.gotquestions.org. I think it is biblically correct and a reputable site. While this is addressing the question of the gospel of inclusion, it makes some good points about hell and whether everyone will be saved. Jesus offers the gospel of salvation to everyone who is willing to repent and believe (John 3:16). However, Jesus Himself said that not everyone will believe (Matthew 7:13-14; John 3:19). No one likes to think that a loving and gracious God would send people to hell, but that is exactly what the Bible teaches. In the clearest teaching Jesus gave regarding the final judgment, He says that at the end the Son of Man will separate all the nations as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. The sheep (representing those who through faith in Jesus Christ have salvation secured) will go into the kingdom with Jesus. The goats (representing those who have rejected the salvation that Jesus offers) will go into hell, which is described as eternal fire (Matthew 25:31-46). This teaching offends many, so instead of conforming their thinking to the clear teaching of the word of God, they change what God’s word says on the matter and spread this false teaching to the masses. The gospel of inclusion is a clear example of this. Here are some additional arguments against the gospel of inclusion: (1) If faith and repentance are not required to receive the gift of salvation, then why is the New Testament littered with calls to repent and place your faith in Jesus Christ? (2) If salvation doesn’t require faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross, then why did Jesus submit to such a humiliating and excruciatingly painful death? God could have just granted everyone a “divine pardon.” (3) If everyone is going to go to heaven whether they realize it or not, then what about free will? Is the hard-core atheist who has spent his life rejecting God, the Bible, Jesus, and Christianity going to be dragged into heaven kicking and screaming against his will? To believe this tenet of the gospel of inclusion seems to indicate that heaven will be filled with people who don’t necessarily want to be there.
4/5/2008 8:29:58 AM	Is Hell literal, or is it figurative?
lotsafuninpa Tioga, PA age: 67	bay---Ev erything you wrote is the truth--but so many just don't want to believe. God bless you---lotsafun
4/7/2008 4:30:03 PM	Is Hell literal, or is it figurative?
zacman555 Navarre, FL age: 50	Bay, First off, inclusion is just another term used to suggest salvation is easy, and or something that is easily obtained. Now, let's get to what the real issues are. No one likes to think that a loving and gracious God would send people to hell, but that is exactly what the Bible teaches. Bay, do you really think God needed to created a place to torture people? Hell is an old English word which meant to bury or conceal. For example, they used to say they would hell their potatoes for the winter in the cellar. In the clearest teaching Jesus gave regarding the final judgment, He says that at the end the Son of Man will separate all the nations as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. The sheep (representing those who through faith in Jesus Christ have salvation secured) Hmmmm, salvation secured? Once saved always saved theology? And you want to present dogmatic statements claiming God is really going to send most of His creation to a hypothetical torture chamber? Paul, the most prolific writer in the New Testament even made this profound statement. * 1 Corinthians 9:27 KJV But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection : lest that by any means , when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. So, Paul didn't claim he was sure he would be included in the elect, how can anyone? My point Bay, is that judgment begins at the house of God now, and those who are not part of the elect will be judged later. Show me a verse of scripture which states judgment isn't possible in the next age. It absolutely amazes me how people will try to defend the fact that people can't be corrected in the next age, after the resurrection. It's like, oh, you only have this one chance, and if you don't get it right, your going to be tortured in literal fire forever. Can you really even imagine this? Give me a break. Not to mention, most of the Billions of people since Creation haven't even heard of the gospel or Christ. Best wishes, Zac
4/8/2008 3:23:08 AM	Is Hell literal, or is it figurative?
baydreamer7 Lancaster, PA age: 47	Zac, IMHO, you are pulling out scriptures to support what you want to believe and that is that God couldn't possibly condemn anyone to hell (or whatever name you have for it). I don't like that thought either, but I stand by that as what the Bible teaches. Otherwise, Jesus died in vain. If His death was for the man who never accepts Him, then why did He die? He died for those whom the Father has called and who will accept the gift of eternal life. As for all the people who have never heard of God, why do you think the Great Commission was issued by Christ? Why are there missionaries sometimes laying down their lives to get the message of the gospel out there? Also, the strongest answer I can give to that question comes right from the Bible: Romans 1:18-20 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. I don't know how you get around that verse. (But I'm sure you will find a way lol!)

Page: 1, 2

skipthegames

most popular gay hookup apps