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1/15/2016 7:15:53 AM God does exist!  
josiemae
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John 15:

13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Luke 22:

63 And the men that held Jesus mocked him, and smote him.

He went through these anguish - mental, physical and spiritual - for me so I am also inclined to suffer inn the same manner. The difference may be is that he did it for the whole world, whether or not we can see or/or admit to it.



[Edited 1/15/2016 7:18:46 AM ]

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nonstandard
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Quote from josiemae:
Luke 22:

63 And the men that held Jesus mocked him, and smote him.

He went through these anguish - mental, physical and spiritual - for me so I am also inclined to suffer inn the same manner. The difference may be is that he did it for the whole world, whether or not we can see or/or admit to it.


He died to show the world , what the self righteous beasts are capable of , the ones who think they're almighty .

He didn't die for our sins , are sins were puny . He died for their sins , because its their sins , is what destroy people , they destroy people like himself .



[Edited 1/15/2016 7:24:22 AM ]

1/15/2016 7:24:24 AM God does exist!  
josiemae
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Quote from nonstandard:
He died to show the world , what the self righteous beasts are capable of , the ones who think they're almighty .

He didn't die for our sins , are sins were puny . He died for their sins , because its their sins , that destroy people , people like himself .


That is your belief; it does not alter mine.

1/15/2016 7:27:44 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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The story is out , and those that crucified him , scramble to cover their tracks .

1/15/2016 7:33:41 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Jesus wanted to obliterate religion , and he was succeeding , that's why they made him their poster boy .

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aphrodisianus
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Quote from duchessa:
aphrodisianus:

""What you're describing Narcissist personality disorder.""

I know about this disorder quite well; my sister suffers from it and that's the reason I don't see / talk to her in over 27 years.

"" It was Jesus... He made demands on his men not to be attracted to women.""

Isn't this behavior a strong sign of homosexuality?


The was a disciple, a man whom Jesus "especially" loved but no specific person is mentioned. A mystery man. It most certainly sounds homosexual. There was also the incident when Jesus was getting arrested that a "youth" whom Jesus was with fled from the scene naked. Youth mentioned in those times would have been quite young since a boy turned into a man at 13. Jesus may have also been a pedophile. In any case there is nothing of this sort of behavior with women.

1/15/2016 4:59:40 PM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from nonstandard:
He died to show the world , what the self righteous beasts are capable of , the ones who think they're almighty .
So he did to make a point. That's insane but Jesus did have insane behavior.


He didn't die for our sins , are sins were puny . He died for their sins , because its their sins , is what destroy people , they destroy people like himself .
Again no sense here. Someone dying for someone else in the act of heroism is heroic but dying to make a point really makes the point that he didn't value his own life. In other words, he committed suicide.

1/15/2016 5:23:29 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from aphrodisianus:
Again no sense here. Someone dying for someone else in the act of heroism is heroic but dying to make a point really makes the point that he didn't value his own life. In other words, he committed suicide.


He had followers , not enough to crush religion , but enough to change religion ,

1/15/2016 5:28:37 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Not bad for an underdog that took on a nearly impossible nemesis .

1/15/2016 5:35:20 PM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from nonstandard:
He had followers , not enough to crush religion , but enough to change religion ,
Religion is always changing. Jesus himself is copy from previous mythical man gods. Not really a big deal actually since historically that happens every 1 or 2 thousand years.

1/15/2016 5:35:44 PM God does exist!  
Yasureoktoo
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Not to forget, it was his ole man who orchestrated the whole thing... evil..

1/15/2016 5:38:29 PM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

1/15/2016 6:31:54 PM God does exist!  

Stillherehaha
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Quote from nonstandard:
Not bad for an underdog that took on a nearly impossible nemesis .



Jesus was the only divine being I have read about who died for us---

didn't ask us to die for him---

but wanted sacrifice done away with --Jesus sacrifice being the ONLY sacrifice needed for all time.

1/15/2016 7:58:03 PM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from Stillherehaha:
Jesus was the only divine being I have read about who died for us---
You didn't do much reading. Jesus is no different than other man-god myths who died and got resurrected.


didn't ask us to die for him---
But many do and continue to die for nothing.

but wanted sacrifice done away with --Jesus sacrifice being the ONLY sacrifice needed for all time.
And yet soldiers, cops, firefighters, and many die for others and yet the religious loon has no respect for real people dying for real reasons. Jesus is a myth.

1/16/2016 6:35:16 AM God does exist!  

duchessa
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Quote from aphrodisianus:
The was a disciple, a man whom Jesus "especially" loved but no specific person is mentioned. A mystery man. It most certainly sounds homosexual. There was also the incident when Jesus was getting arrested that a "youth" whom Jesus was with fled from the scene naked. Youth mentioned in those times would have been quite young since a boy turned into a man at 13. Jesus may have also been a pedophile. In any case there is nothing of this sort of behavior with
women.


The incident you mention here is well known...an incident the believers don't comment on. LOL

1/16/2016 12:56:52 PM God does exist!  
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aphrodisianus
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Quote from duchessa:
The incident you mention here is well known...an incident the believers don't comment on. LOL


Yup, and so far no comments.

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nonstandard
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Yeah , we can create an illusion , where we excel , while the whole world crumbles .

The meek cant inherit an earth , with nothing left to inherit .

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blake6972
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Quote from aphrodisianus:
The was a disciple, a man whom Jesus "especially" loved but no specific person is mentioned. A mystery man. It most certainly sounds homosexual. There was also the incident when Jesus was getting arrested that a "youth" whom Jesus was with fled from the scene naked. Youth mentioned in those times would have been quite young since a boy turned into a man at 13. Jesus may have also been a pedophile. In any case there is nothing of this sort of behavior with women.


Total BS. I already explained the "youth " story.

You are a ignorant fool who is incapable of keeping words within their proper context.

You haven't a clue about the Word of God.

None.

1/18/2016 10:52:40 AM God does exist!  

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[Edited 1/18/2016 10:55:43 AM ]

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Quote from olderthandirt20:





christianity started from what Jesus done at the cross. all you have is just your theory or your belief. as for me it is not nonsense but truth and God does exist

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ludlowlowell
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Christianity has hardly been sheltered from criticism in its 2000-year history, Olderthandirt.

Pictures of Nazi soldiers? "Once we get done with the Jews, the Christians are next." --Adolf Hitler

1/18/2016 9:23:16 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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Research" Papal bull Cum nimis absurdum", promulgated by Pope Paul IV on 14 July 1555.

"As it is completely absurd and improper in the utmost that the Jews, who through their own fault were condemned by God to eternal servitude..."

1/18/2016 10:23:25 PM God does exist!  

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Why don't you give us the pope's whole sentence?

Salvation only comes by faith in Christ. If the Jews wish to be saved let them convert to Catholicism. We will welcome them with open arms.

1/19/2016 9:38:36 AM God does exist!  

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You should have stopped while you were ahead ,Lud.
Dirt was being kind by leaving that part off!!
You on the other hand have exacerbated , and given an example of how the Catholic Church sought to control through co-coercion, all the humans of the earth.

1/19/2016 9:57:58 AM God does exist!  

wayn49
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Quote from rufftreasure:
You should have stopped while you were ahead ,Lud.
Dirt was being kind by leaving that part off!!
You on the other hand have exacerbated , and given an example of how the Catholic Church sought to control through co-coercion, all the humans of the earth.



and they still do because in 2017 they are calling for a unity between the protestant and catholic church. a unity that will eventually lead to widespread persecution as laws are passed one being a sunday law which they are pushing for now. the same thing happened during the middle ages until a reformation started with men like martin luther which led to many separating from the catholic church which started the protestant movement. the thing is some of the teachings from the roman catholic church were taken in to most protestant churches

not being mean here but revelation chapter 17 warns the last day church who has drunk of wine of deception

we are now on a down hill road as the final events unfold



[Edited 1/19/2016 9:58:41 AM ]

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olderthandirt20
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Why don't you give us the pope's whole sentence?

Salvation only comes by faith in Christ. If the Jews wish to be saved let them convert to Catholicism. We will welcome them with open arms.



Now let us search out some truth lud , I know you prefer to bend truth to make your precious church appear guilt free,let's get some facts.

On July 14, 1555, Pope Paul IV issued his bull “Cum nimis absurdum,” which subjected the Jews under his dominion to a long list of restrictions and humiliations, most notably the requirement that the Jews of Rome live within a closed area. This became the Rome Ghetto, the mandatory home of the city’s Jews until its abolishment in 1870.
Pope Paul IV (1476-1559) was an unusually rigid and intolerant pontiff. He had been the leading figure in the establishment of a Roman Inquisition in 1542 (the papal bull that created the Inquisition stated, “Even if my own father were a heretic, I would gather the wood to burn him…"), and had overseen the burning of the Talmud in Rome in 1553.
Less than two months after his ascent to the papacy on May 23, 1555, he issued “Cum nimis absurbum” – meaning literally, “Because it is completely senseless …” After those opening words, the proclamation continues: “…and inappropriate to be in a situation where Christian piety allows the Jews (whose guilt -- all of their own doing -- has condemned them to eternal slavery) access to our society and even to live among us…” before laying a long and detailed list of restrictions on Jewish life.
The first in the list of rules was one requiring all Jews in any given town to live in a single district, which was to be enclosed with a wall, and locked at night. The Jews were not allowed to own any property in the ghetto, and were permitted to have but a single synagogue for prayer. Any others that existed at the time of the promulgation of the bull were to be destroyed.
Jews were obligated to identify themselves with a yellow head-covering. Professionally, they were limited to the rag trade, unless they were trained physicians, in which case they were forbidden from tending to Christians. They were also prohibited from working on Sundays or on Christian feast days, among other restrictions.
The Roman Ghetto was established on the banks of the Tiber river, one of the least desirable sections of the city, if only because of its tendency to flood when the river’s waters rose. The Jews, who had their own dialect, called Giudeo-romanesco, had to finance its construction, which was designed by architect Giovanni Sallustio Peruzzi. Initially, it could be entered or departed by only two gates, although by the time the walls were demolished, in the 19th century, that number had increased to eight. Since the area of the ghetto could not expand, the only way to add living space was to build up, to as high as seven stories. This helped to block the sun, making the ghetto a dark space.
On the positive side, Christian landlords could not evict their Jewish tenants, nor could they raise rents. At the same time, the Jews were required to go through an annual ritual by which they requested permission to reside in the ghetto, a privilege for which they also had to pay a tax. Before that procedure was instituted, the Jews had to participate as performers in an annual carnival of humiliation.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/1.535641

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If only the Jews would believe in Jesus, most of their troubles would be over. And tgeir souls could be saved.

1/19/2016 8:30:44 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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If by some chance someday you find yourself kneeling in front of a muslim with a sword telling you to convert to islam or be beheaded, you should remember what you just said.

If only the Jews would believe in Jesus, most of their troubles would be over. And tgeir souls could be saved.

You are the racist, bigot that the church loves.

1/19/2016 9:26:54 PM God does exist!  

ludlowlowell
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Racist? I believe in the equality of the races. One of the most wonderful things about tge Catholic Church is its presence all over the world in all kinds of races and cultures---Europe, Africa, Latin America, the Phillipines, Vietnam---and at least a small presence in every nation. The stone (Jesus) rejected by the builders (the Jews) has indeed become the cornerstone. The Cjurch is truly catholic, the word "catholic" meaning universal.

I would hope that, if given the opportunity, I would die for Christ rather than deny my faith. The martyr's death is a glorious one. The martyr avoids Purgatory and goes straight to Heaven.

1/19/2016 11:09:35 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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No you don't see jews as equal you see all non-catholics as lesser beings and that is bigotry!
you see Africans ,Europeans, Filipinos & Vietnamese as less than you because they are not all catholic like you.

That is sad, I feel sorry for you.

1/20/2016 3:00:50 AM God does exist!  

ludlowlowell
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I do not see non-Catholics as inferior beings. I only desire their conversion and salvation. And I meant that Africans, Filipinos, and Vietnamese ARE Catholics---at least a large minority of Africans and Vietnamese, and about 80-90% of Filipinos. The Phillipines was already a solidly Catholic country when the Puritans landed on Plymouth Rock.

1/20/2016 6:25:34 AM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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Lud,
There are psychiatrists you can go to. How come you're avoiding it?





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ludlowlowell
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Let me get this straight---because I said I believed in the equality of the races, I need a psychiatrist, and because I reported the very eadily verifiable fact that 80-90% of Filipinos are Catholics, and that a very large minority of Africans and Vietnamese are Catholics, I need a psychiatrist.

1/20/2016 8:24:19 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Let me get this straight---because I said I believed in the equality of the races, I need a psychiatrist, and because I reported the very eadily verifiable fact that 80-90% of Filipinos are Catholics, and that a very large minority of Africans and Vietnamese are Catholics, I need a psychiatrist.



No because you believe they must be catholic. otherwise you consider them less than you.

1/20/2016 9:58:28 PM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Let me get this straight---because I said I believed in the equality of the races, I need a psychiatrist, and because I reported the very eadily verifiable fact that 80-90% of Filipinos are Catholics, and that a very large minority of Africans and Vietnamese are Catholics, I need a psychiatrist.


Not specifically but because you're suffering religious delusions, poor reasoning and disordered thinking.

1/21/2016 10:14:44 AM God does exist!  

ludlowlowell
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Is the equality of the races a delusion? Is the easily verifiable fact that 80-90% of Filipinos are at least nominally Catholic delusional? Is the eadily verifiable fact that huge numbers of Africans have become Catholic in the last 200 years or so delusional? Is it delusional to suggest that most of the Vietnamese who came to America after the war are Catholic? _And if you had any idea how much Communists hate Catholics you would understand why they fled.)

1/23/2016 4:12:54 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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If you want to live forever , you believe in a god that can pull it off .

If you want your offspring , their offspring , and all offspring that follows , to live forever , you believe in a universe that doesn't give a damn what we want .

So whos ready to stop being selfish ?

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kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
If you want to live forever , you believe in a god that can pull it off .

Amen. Sounds very rational to me.

If you want your offspring , their offspring , and all offspring that follows , to live forever , you believe in a universe that doesn't give a damn what we want .

This makes no sense. Why would you not still want to believe in God?

So whos ready to stop being selfish ?

Selfish in what way? How is it selfish to want yourself and "your offspring , their offspring , and all offspring that follows" to live forever?

1/23/2016 11:47:30 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Everything lives forever , twisting , and contorting , everything only interferes with the process . Once we're in the clouds , its out of our hands , we will always regret not making life more sustainable for our offspring , when we had the opportunity .

1/23/2016 12:06:26 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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We wont kill life on earth , life on earth doesn't die , it becomes new forms of life . We can wipe out the human race , but life will go on .

It may even create a new human species , not because it cares , but because that's what it does .

If the new species survives , it will be because cares more about where it comes from , than it cares about where its going .

1/23/2016 12:22:34 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Instead of making more utterances how about answering the questions I asked.

1/23/2016 12:41:35 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
Instead of making more utterances how about answering the questions I asked.


I cant help that your deaf . Sorry , I wish I could change that .

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nonstandard
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The ears can only sense vibration . Its the mind that has to pick it up .

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kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
I cant help that your deaf . Sorry , I wish I could change that .

I'm not deaf and even if I was I could still read. Answer my questions.

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nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
I'm not deaf and even if I was I could still read. Answer my questions.


Its always an enigma with you , maybe you should let it in , instead of shutting it out .

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kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
The ears can only sense vibration . Its the mind that has to pick it up .

I don't think you are playing with a full deck. I don't need ears to read words.

1/23/2016 12:55:25 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
I don't think you are playing with a full deck. I don't need ears to read words.


Your a tyrant , you keep pushing words that no one wants to hear . Everyone tells you so , but you don't want to hear , your like the energizer bunny .

You should not be proud of yourself , you should be ashamed of yourself .

1/23/2016 1:09:14 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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I'm a tyrant and you attack me because I asked you to answer my questions to your post?

You appear to screwed up to intelligently respond.

1/23/2016 1:21:15 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
I'm a tyrant and you attack me because I asked you to answer my questions to your post?

You appear to screwed up to intelligently respond.


I attack you , because you are an open door , what everyone says , passes straight through . Its like nothing was there to begin with .



[Edited 1/23/2016 1:21:38 PM ]

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kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
I attack you , because you are an open door , what everyone says , passes straight through . Its like nothing was there to begin with .




1/23/2016 1:29:24 PM God does exist!  
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Quote from nonstandard:
Everything lives forever , twisting , and contorting , everything only interferes with the process . Once we're in the clouds , its out of our hands , we will always regret not making life more sustainable for our offspring , when we had the opportunity .


In order to ascend to the highest realm of heaven. You must leave all the physical behind including regrets. Holding on to anything will prevent your from acceding to the highest realm. That means you must shed all your judgements of others and of your self, you must be reborn with the innocence of a child. And rid yourself of all the illusions you created in this material realm. Everything in life is a divine experience and you must except that the choices you made you were meant to make it was part of your divine plan. Something you needed to experience and learn from in order to grow and raise your consciousness. If you fail to grasp the lesson you keep repeating the same situations over and over until you do. You must be willing to remove the beam from your own eye. The is why the spiritual path is a inner journey or process, you need to work through your own psychology. An outer religion can not take you there, it can only start you on the path. And if you cling to the outer religion and and don't take the inner journey. There is a way that may seem right unto man, but in the end will lead to death. The gate is wide and many will enter through it, this is the outer path. The road to salvation is narrow and few will find it, this is the inner path.

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nonstandard
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Quote from irishrose0906:
In order to ascend to the highest realm of heaven. You must leave all the physical behind including regrets. Holding on to anything will prevent your from acceding to the highest realm. That means you must shed all your judgements of others and of your self, you must be reborn with the innocence of a child. And rid yourself of all the illusions you created in this material realm. Everything in life is a divine experience and you must except that the choices you made you were meant to make it was part of your divine plan. Something you needed to experience and learn from in order to grow and raise your consciousness. If you fail to grasp the lesson you keep repeating the same situations over and over until you do. You must be willing to remove the beam from your own eye. The is why the spiritual path is a inner journey or process, you need to work through your own psychology. An outer religion can not take you there, it can only start you on the path. And if you cling to the outer religion and and don't take the inner journey. There is a way that may seem right unto man, but in the end will lead to death. The gate is wide and many will enter through it, this is the outer path. The road to salvation is narrow and few will find it, this is the inner path.


Physical put us on the map , if we cant accept it , we're doomed to fail by our own hands .

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kb2222
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Quote from irishrose0906:
In order to ascend to the highest realm of heaven. You must leave all the physical behind including regrets. Holding on to anything will prevent your from acceding to the highest realm. That means you must shed all your judgements of others and of your self, you must be reborn with the innocence of a child. And rid yourself of all the illusions you created in this material realm. Everything in life is a divine experience and you must except that the choices you made you were meant to make it was part of your divine plan. Something you needed to experience and learn from in order to grow and raise your consciousness. If you fail to grasp the lesson you keep repeating the same situations over and over until you do. You must be willing to remove the beam from your own eye. The is why the spiritual path is a inner journey or process, you need to work through your own psychology. An outer religion can not take you there, it can only start you on the path. And if you cling to the outer religion and and don't take the inner journey. There is a way that may seem right unto man, but in the end will lead to death. The gate is wide and many will enter through it, this is the outer path. The road to salvation is narrow and few will find it, this is the inner path.



I find wisdom in your post. Thanks for sharing.

1/23/2016 1:44:07 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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York, PA
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Your relying on a brain created by elements to support a complex organism , but these things existed long before any brain came along .

They teach us everything we know , and we piss on it , like it was never there .

1/23/2016 1:53:35 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
Physical put us on the map , if we cant accept it , we're doomed to fail by our own hands .

Have you seen a monkey come out of the jungle and ask for direction? Yes, evolution has given man a body but that doesn't mean evolution is not part of God's creative plan. What separates man from the animal is mind, the ability to reason and make purposeful decisions with the inherent desire for increasing knowledge. Desire is the driving force of creation and desire in its purest form derives from a divine source that is love dominated.

1/23/2016 1:53:45 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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York, PA
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You cant escape reality , you will be tortured by it , no matter how long you live .

Its not that bad , its actually quite rewarding , when you stop thinking of yourself .

1/23/2016 1:55:22 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Jacksonville, FL
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Quote from nonstandard:
Your relying on a brain created by elements to support a complex organism , but these things existed long before any brain came along .

They teach us everything we know , and we piss on it , like it was never there .

What are you pissing on?

1/23/2016 2:02:03 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
Over 2,000 Posts (2,986)
York, PA
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Quote from kb2222:
Have you seen a monkey come out of the jungle and ask for direction? Yes, evolution has given man a body but that doesn't mean evolution is not part of God's creative plan. What separates man from the animal is mind, the ability to reason and make purposeful decisions with the inherent desire for increasing knowledge. Desire is the driving force of creation and desire in its purest form derives from a divine source that is love dominated.


Mind is what makes us the same , observation makes use realize , that we're the same creatures we attack .

Do we look , or do we look away ?