Have you seen a monkey come out of the jungle and ask for direction? Yes, evolution has given man a body but that doesn't mean evolution is not part of God's creative plan. What separates man from the animal is mind, the ability to reason and make purposeful decisions with the inherent desire for increasing knowledge. Desire is the driving force of creation and desire in its purest form derives from a divine source that is love dominated.

You cant escape reality , you will be tortured by it , no matter how long you live .

Its not that bad , its actually quite rewarding , when you stop thinking of yourself .

What are you pissing on?

As I said:

Yes, evolution has given man a body but that doesn't mean evolution is not part of God's creative plan. What separates man from the animal is mind, the ability to reason and make purposeful decisions with the inherent desire for increasing knowledge. Desire is the driving force of creation and desire in its purest form derives from a divine source that is love dominated.

That's your whole problem , you don't care what anyone says to you , you only care about what you say to them .

Communication is a two way street . Open your eyes , and the mind will follow , what are you afraid of ?

As you said , as you say again , nobody gives a shit . Get over yourself .

Being here in this material realm is not the ultimate destination my friend. This world is like a school of hard knocks and we are here because of our fall from grace, or because we chose to come to experience the physical realm. We are all spiritual beings created in Gods image which is spiritual. God is not physical and is no perspector of persons. God does not see your physical identity. He only see's you spirit, your inner being, and that isn't your ego, because that sense of self is physical and not be taken with you when you die. Only the spirit that came from heaven can return to heaven. And that is the duality aspect of the situation. You have a sense of self you created to live in this physical realm, and then you have the spirit that God created. The two cannot ascend together, you have to give up the ghost in the end.

Everything we know , comes from a universe outside of the brain .

Everything we think we know , is trapped within a brain .

Being here in this material realm is not the ultimate destination my friend. This world is like a school of hard knocks and we are here because of our fall from grace, or because we chose to come to experience the physical realm. We are all spiritual beings created in Gods image which is spiritual. God is not physical and is no perspector of persons. God does not see your physical identity. He only see's you spirit, your inner being, and that isn't your ego, because that sense of self is physical and not be taken with you when you die. Only the spirit that came from heaven can return to heaven. And that is the duality aspect of the situation. You have a sense of self you created to live in this physical realm, and then you have the spirit that God created. The two cannot ascend together, you have to give up the ghost in the end.

How is what you think you know trapped in your brain when you can tell others what you think you know, can't you? That's what you are doing although incoherently, isn't it?

If you want to understand , just climb up out of your hole .

Really. Well this just clearly shows your weird mindset and I regrettably will solve that problem for you.

How is what you think you know trapped in your brain when you can tell others what you think you know, can't you? That's what you are doing although incoherently, isn't it?

Why don't you as a arrogant condescending egotistical atheist just explain how you believe inanimate matter such as a rock sprang into life?

And while you are at it explain the CAUSE of the "Big Bang" theory that I assume you subscribe too?

not an atheist but is somebody claiming that a rock is alive?

why would you ask an atheist such a question? why not ask a theoretical physicists? i'm neither obviously but my understanding is that nobody knows the cause of the big bang or what happened precisely at the time of the event. they have surmised for what evidence is available what has happened a few milliseconds after the event occurred and since. and of course we haven't a clue whether or not this was the first bang or the only one. nothing to say that there were not numerous bangs creating numerous universes. all we can observe is what we can observe and up till now we've observed only a very small part of this universe.

fine, so you ask the question because you're interest is in delving into elementary school yard bickering and not because you have an interest in furthering your understanding of how theoretical physicists describe the big bang. fair nuff.

it's quite common for religious folk to see the theory as highly implausible. it directly refutes the ideas in the bible, quoran and other religious scripture which must be taken on faith only. anytime you'd care I can refer you to several writings about the big bang and then perhaps we can have a civil discussion on the matter without childish antics from either of us.

btw, the theory wasn't conceptualized in order to explain why galaxies are moving away from each other. in fact they are all not. Andromeda is moving toward our milky way and will eventually collide with it. it was continued testing of the big bang theory that led us to discover years later that the universe is expanding.

What "evidence" AFTER the supposed Big Bang has been observed (not speculated) but observed?

Still, how is it theorized by the experts that all the matter and energy in the entire vast universe suddenly exploded/expanded from a single infinitesimally small and dense point?

I understand that that is perhaps the only logical thing one can derive in support of the Big Bang theory but if its so implausible on its face it really supports nothing. Right?

I didn't expect you to be an expert on the matter but when you say there is "evidence" for something I would think you should reasonably be able to say what it is and reference it. And being a reasonable person I would think also that you should be able to respond in a reasonable manner to what I said/asked instead of bowing out as you have. Give it a shot and respond to my post comments/questions as best you can.

No, I don't believe in the "mythical" story of creation in Genesis.

Well that's a hypothesis it would appear centered on supporting the Big bang theory but if there was no big bang what would the "cosmic background radiation" (which I understand is pretty much uniform) indicate/evidence? As I have read we really don't know what 95% of the universe (dark matter/dark energy) is but we "theorize" and "publicize" that all that we don't even know what it is came from a infinitesimally small and dense point 13.8 billion years ago. Amazing!

Don't take it personally. I'm not laughing at you. Its the absurdity of what scientists claim given they don't even know what 95% of the universe is but they claim it all began from a infinitesimally small and dense point 13.8 billion years ago is what I am laughing at. You don't accept the BB as fact do you?

First off on another thread you said "Scientific theories are testable" and I replied.. "Well that certainly makes the Big Bang "Theory" a HYPOTHESIS. Secondly, To say scientists "haven't made any claims regarding the Big Bang" is ridiculous. There are many TV programs depicting the Big Bang occurring and what happened milliseconds afterwards and it is presented as scientific FACT which it is not. And thirdly, as I said "they don't even know what 95% of the universe (i.e. dark matter/dark energy) IS but they claim it all began from a infinitesimally small and dense point 13.8 billion years ago and that's pure untested speculation presented as a fact and my religious beliefs doesn't change this scientific misrepresentation at all.

no theory can ever be proved.