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1/31/2016 8:58:10 AM God does exist!  

jrbogie1949
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Quote from nonstandard:
Really ? What is intelligence ? .


intelligence is a state of mind where one understands that every time he finds the answer to one question he opens up new questions he never even considered before. he realizes that he will never have all the answers. religious folk on the other hand 'know' all of the answers to such concepts as the beginning of the universe and the ascension of the species and have nothing left to learn on those topics unlike the rest of us who understand that there will always be something new to learn.

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1/31/2016 9:06:05 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
Really ? What is intelligence ?

We call our own mental ability intelligence , we can observe , we can assess , we can calculate , we can make things work to our advantage .

Everything was working before we came along . All our knowledge comes from it , it teaches us how everything works . We can take advantage of it , because it has supplied these abilities , to a form that would not exist without them .

What is the "it" you are talking/rambling about?

And you still did not answer my question.

1/31/2016 9:35:44 AM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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The question is intelligence. New cognitive models sprung up in the later part of the 80s for psychology and computer science in the area of heuristics.

Intelligence is simply the ability to observe, learn and make decisions based on data. That being the case intelligence doesn't require consciousness to carry out those operations. Computer projects have proven this. In fact, new trucking technology of self driving trucks are being constructed. Computers don't get tired. Drivers do. Google cars already drive by themselves. High end BMWs and Mercedes have anti-crash technology. Some cars can park themselves. All intelligent operations done by machines.



[Edited 1/31/2016 9:36:36 AM ]

1/31/2016 9:42:38 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from aphrodisianus:
The question is intelligence. New cognitive models sprung up in the later part of the 80s for psychology and computer science in the area of heuristics.

Intelligence is simply the ability to observe, learn and make decisions based on data. That being the case intelligence doesn't require consciousness to carry out those operations. Computer projects have proven this. In fact, new trucking technology of self driving trucks are being constructed. Computers don't get tired. Drivers do. Google cars already drive by themselves. High end BMWs and Mercedes have anti-crash technology. Some cars can park themselves. All intelligent operations done by machines.

Who is disputing that human intelligence has created "intelligent" machines?

1/31/2016 9:49:07 AM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from kb2222:
Who is disputing that human intelligence has created "intelligent" machines?


Good. You took the bait. How stupid do you want to look now?

1/31/2016 9:57:06 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from aphrodisianus:
Good. You took the bait. How stupid do you want to look now?

What stupid point are you trying to make?

1/31/2016 10:01:35 AM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from kb2222:
What stupid point are you trying to make?




and a dull point at that.

1/31/2016 10:39:09 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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You are sick. You don't even know what point you are trying to make.

1/31/2016 1:06:20 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from kb2222:
You are sick. You don't even know what point you are trying to make.


It wouldn't matter as you are too dimwitted to grasp basic biology let alone applied physics.

1/31/2016 1:19:10 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
What is the "it" you are talking/rambling about?

And you still did not answer my question.


I enjoy leaving you dangling , it makes me laugh .

1/31/2016 1:38:56 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Your really good at hanging yourself . I just sit back , and enjoy the show .

1/31/2016 1:53:34 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Your really good at hanging yourself . I just sit back , and enjoy the show .

1/31/2016 2:17:37 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
Your really good at hanging yourself . I just sit back , and enjoy the show .

You don't answer questions because the truth shows you babble incoherently

1/31/2016 3:56:01 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
You don't answer questions because the truth shows you babble incoherently











You keep ranting about questions never asked....

Is this some sort of reverse wall routine ?

1/31/2016 4:08:25 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
You keep ranting about questions never asked....

Is this some sort of reverse wall routine ?

Never asked? Look back over the thread and stop being stupid.

1/31/2016 4:38:53 PM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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You're an a** .

I have no incentive to keep going , I go on because I hate you , not because I care about anything you say .

Your a jerk , and nothing I say will ever change it .

1/31/2016 4:47:22 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from nonstandardYou're an a** .

I have no incentive to keep going , I go on because I hate you , not because I care about anything you say .

Your a jerk , and nothing I say will ever change it.

~~~~~~~~~~~

Your apparent problem is that you can't stand to be questioned on your incoherent babbling.

2/1/2016 7:54:54 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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I think that irishrose did a very good job of summing it up .

Its not her fault , nor mine , that you lack the ability to understand .

2/1/2016 8:02:47 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
Quote from nonstandardYou're an a** .

I have no incentive to keep going , I go on because I hate you , not because I care about anything you say .

Your a jerk , and nothing I say will ever change it.

~~~~~~~~~~~

Your apparent problem is that you can't stand to be questioned on your incoherent babbling.


Just because the answers go over your head , it doesn't mean that your questions are un answered . Everyone here answers your questions , your just too dense to understand .

2/2/2016 9:53:46 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
Just because the answers go over your head , it doesn't mean that your questions are un answered . Everyone here answers your questions , your just too dense to understand .

Stop lying. Incoherent answers are not answers.

2/2/2016 11:38:56 AM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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Isn't it strange that the TUBbies are the common denominator in the missed communications ?

2/2/2016 8:02:34 PM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from kb2222:
Stop lying. Incoherent answers are not answers.



Here is a sample of incoherence.

I gave you a link to purview the content of the Urantia Book and the authors are all non-humans and named on each of the 196 Papers comprising the book.

the authors are all non-humans
the authors are all non-humans
the authors are all non-humans
the authors are all non-humans


But what's the reason for this incoherent rambling? You're mentally ill. There is no other explanation.

2/3/2016 7:34:30 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
Stop lying. Incoherent answers are not answers.


I could say the same for your answers , but I would not accuse you of not answering , that would be idiotic .

2/3/2016 8:55:17 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
I could say the same for your answers , but I would not accuse you of not answering , that would be idiotic .

You can accuse whatever you want whether its true or not but that doesn't change the fact that incoherent answers are not answers

2/3/2016 9:35:25 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
You can accuse whatever you want whether its true or not but that doesn't change the fact that incoherent answers are not answers


Just because they don't meet your satisfaction , it doesn't mean they're not answers .



I cant believe that anyone in the modern age still acts this way , but its a fact that they do , so you're not alone . Its the jungle mentality .

You should be the king of beasts , you know you want it . Its your "precious escape" from all that bothers you .

2/3/2016 9:53:38 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
Just because they don't meet your satisfaction , it doesn't mean they're not answers .

If your answer is incoherent and/or doesn't answer the question asked it is NOT a answer to the question.

I cant believe that anyone in the modern age still acts this way , but its a fact that they do , so you're not alone . Its the jungle mentality .

You should be the king of beasts , you know you want it . Its your "precious escape" from all that bothers you .

Absolute nonsense and if you think you are the center of the universe you are nuts.

2/3/2016 9:56:22 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
Absolute nonsense and if you think you are the center of the universe you are nuts.


And you call me incoherent ?

2/3/2016 9:58:02 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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If I was a TUB , you'd be on your knees .

2/3/2016 9:58:23 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
And you call me incoherent ?

What don't you understand about what I said?

If I was a TUB , you'd be on your knees .

Did you drink kerosene when you were a kid?



[Edited 2/3/2016 9:59:59 AM ]

2/3/2016 10:05:09 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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Quote from kb2222:
Did you drink kerosene when you were a kid?


Your just too dumb to hold my interest .

2/3/2016 10:09:51 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from nonstandard:
Your just too dumb to hold my interest .

If your answer is incoherent and/or doesn't answer the question asked it is NOT a answer to the question. Are you to dumb/mixed up to understand this?

2/3/2016 10:39:58 AM God does exist!  

nonstandard
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WHY AM I WRONG ? Answer this one question , and every question , you ever asked , will be answered .

How strong is your faith ?

Just so you know , you will not escape , with a book of tubs , protecting your behind .

2/4/2016 5:58:07 AM God does exist!  
irishrose0906
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Quote from kb2222:
If your answer is incoherent and/or doesn't answer the question asked it is NOT a answer to the question. Are you to dumb/mixed up to understand this?


Its an answer KB one you just don't understand. And if you seek to understand the answer then try to change your perspective. Dwell on the answer think about the it, and seek understanding. Or you choose to withdrawal from the conversation all together if that is what you choose.

2/4/2016 7:00:38 AM God does exist!  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from kb2222:
If your answer is incoherent and/or doesn't answer the question asked it is NOT a answer to the question. Are you to dumb/mixed up to understand this?


You're another retard who reads books you believe are written by aliens from another planet.

2/4/2016 8:58:02 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from irishrose0906:
Its an answer KB one you just don't understand. And if you seek to understand the answer then try to change your perspective. Dwell on the answer think about the it, and seek understanding. Or you choose to withdrawal from the conversation all together if that is what you choose.

That's right I don't understand incoherent responses to questions I ask about his ridiculous statements and for you to say I need to change my perspective and dwell on his answer when its incoherent and doesn't answer the question asked is just NONSENSE.

2/4/2016 9:48:39 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from aphrodisianus:
You're another retard who reads books you believe are written by aliens from another planet.

Yes, I believe life is not a accident and that it has a purpose and a destiny by the design of a almighty and loving God, the first source and center of all things and beings. Yes, I believe the universe is vast and organized and inhabited by intelligent beings far superior to humans, that life is a spiritual as well as a physical event that God experiences along with the creature of His making and who grants life after death to those who seek Him and who thereby heed His call to strive for perfection of being and if you in your contemptuous manner think I am a retard for believing thusly that's regrettably okay with me. It just shows how dumb and egotistical you are not only to obviously believe humans are the only intelligent beings in the universe but to mockingly reject the existence of God and show contempt for all believers as you do unless God meet your DEMAND that He prove His existence to you.

If you have no desire for life after death that's your choice/fault.

2/4/2016 11:36:00 AM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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Why is it always kb who can't understand ?

2/4/2016 11:53:06 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Why do you ask a question without saying what you are talking about?

2/4/2016 11:58:05 AM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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It's clear to everyone but you. Are you really that stupid?

2/4/2016 12:16:59 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Honesty and forthrightness mean nothing to you. Why have you made yourself so debased?

2/4/2016 2:09:45 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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It's you who lacks honesty,you are dishonest with yourself and with others.

2/4/2016 3:03:10 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Like I said:

Yes, I believe life is not a accident and that it has a purpose and a destiny by the design of a almighty and loving God, the first source and center of all things and beings. Yes, I believe the universe is vast and organized and inhabited by intelligent beings far superior to humans, that life is a spiritual as well as a physical event that God experiences along with the creature of His making and who grants life after death to those who seek Him and who thereby heed His call to strive for perfection of being and if you in your contemptuous manner think I am a retard for believing thusly that's regrettably okay with me. It just shows how dumb and egotistical you are not only to obviously believe humans are the only intelligent beings in the universe but to mockingly reject the existence of God and show contempt for all believers as you do unless God meet your DEMAND that He prove His existence to you.

If you have no desire for life after death that's your choice/fault.

2/4/2016 3:30:12 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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I have no wish to share your fantasy/illusion.

I have no need for any snake oil.

2/4/2016 5:59:55 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Well, olderthandirt20, if you consider yourself to be a worthless organism with no real lasting purpose or destiny and you have no desire to live after death. Why in the world are you here on this religion forum continually ridiculing and badgering believers, claiming they are stupid psychotic dimwits and trying to convince them to believe as you do?

2/4/2016 7:00:06 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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2/4/2016 7:11:11 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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What's the matter can't you bring yourself for once to honestly answer my question?

2/4/2016 7:20:53 PM God does exist!  
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2/4/2016 7:33:42 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from slowpoke7:



That's about the truth.

2/4/2016 7:44:18 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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What's the matter can't you bring yourself for once to honestly answer my question? Slowpoke can't but for another reason. What's yours?

2/4/2016 7:53:34 PM God does exist!  
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2/4/2016 7:59:41 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from kb2222:
What's the matter can't you bring yourself for once to honestly answer my question? Slowpoke can't but for another reason. What's yours?





2/4/2016 8:51:30 PM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Quote from kb2222:
What's the matter can't you bring yourself for once to honestly answer my question? Slowpoke can't but for another reason. What's yours?


2/4/2016 9:29:06 PM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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I'm not here to answer your questions. In fact you have no authority to question anything anywhere at any time.

2/4/2016 9:32:38 PM God does exist!  

rufftreasure
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What a maroon, now KB thinks he's a god or something.

2/5/2016 8:52:32 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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Well, olderthandirt20, if you consider yourself to be a worthless organism with no real lasting purpose or destiny and you have no desire to live after death. Why in the world are you here on this religion forum continually ridiculing and badgering believers, claiming they are stupid psychotic dimwits and trying to convince them to believe as you do?

2/5/2016 10:22:47 AM God does exist!  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from kb2222:
Well, olderthandirt20, if you consider yourself to be a worthless organism with no real lasting purpose or destiny and you have no desire to live after death. Why in the world are you here on this religion forum continually ridiculing and badgering believers, claiming they are stupid psychotic dimwits and trying to convince them to believe as you do?



Actually I consider you to be the worthless organism here with your purpose to harass people who don't buy the snake oil you are trying to sell( warmed over adventist/sci-fi/pseudo science Sadler&Kellogs wet dream outdated mumbo-jumbo bullshit).
As for the badgering you are just as guilty of that as anyone here.
If you don't like what I have to say then you have the option to ignore or block.
I really don't care and you can kiss my behind.

2/5/2016 11:11:21 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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2/5/2016 11:19:40 AM God does exist!  

rufftreasure
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2/5/2016 11:31:41 AM God does exist!  

kb2222
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rufftreasure

Why don't you put your thoughts in words?

You claim to be a Christian but you are constantly degrading me without engaging in a discussion and applauding/agreeing with the atheists. What's your problem?

Can you say?

2/5/2016 1:00:34 PM God does exist!  
cupocheer
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Yes. God does exist.