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I've read about half of the UBbut haven't read any recently, although I would like to complete it ultimately. "I've started so I'll finish" type thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsIElVW3qKE



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3/11/2016 6:01:19 PM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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1. Yes
2. No
3. I don't know


Are the Urantian papers really christian in nature? voice your opinion.
If yes, why
If no , why




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Maybe parts of it, cuz they seem to really be into Jesus.
On the other hand, lotta Christians seem to attack the Urantians, as a cult

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I didnt know christians were referred to as pee holes

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Where's that coming from

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3/11/2016 6:55:49 PM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  
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I don't see how a pagan religion like Urantiaism (700,000 gods) can be called Christian.

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Urantia isn't Christian, but then again neither was Jesus. He was some kind of apocalyptic Jew and would have been appalled at people treating him like a god. So I think it's perfectly okay for Urantia fans to argue their Jesusy obsessions with similarly affected groups, as long as they aren't hurting anyone.

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How the Hell do you get pagan from that??

How would you know anyways, have you read the damn book, Lud??

3/11/2016 7:14:01 PM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  
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I agree ,Clarencec.

3/12/2016 2:07:58 AM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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Quote from clarence2:
Urantia isn't Christian, but then again neither was Jesus. He was some kind of apocalyptic Jew and would have been appalled at people treating him like a god. So I think it's perfectly okay for Urantia fans to argue their Jesusy obsessions with similarly affected groups, as long as they aren't hurting anyone.




Peace

3/12/2016 7:06:59 AM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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Quote from clarence2:
Urantia isn't Christian, but then again neither was Jesus. He was some kind of apocalyptic Jew and would have been appalled at people treating him like a god. So I think it's perfectly okay for Urantia fans to argue their Jesusy obsessions with similarly affected groups, as long as they aren't hurting anyone.



i resent that remark about Jesus which is also blasphemy

3/12/2016 7:31:38 AM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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I voted yes. There are some 30,000 sects or more properly called, versions of Christianity. To call it a sect implies a sort of validity and credibility which it hasn't. Fact is all of Christianity lacks credibility. It's basically a death cult of copied myths with a large following.

Urantia is just another version of Christian psychobabble with an asstronaut Jesus and interplanetary travel of psychic beings who communicate as version of the holy spirit and now being called the adjusters. It's just more evidence that this kind of nonsense hyper-religiosity requires a foundation of mental pathology where hallucinations and delusions are all over the place. The bible itself is filled with these sorts of examples but those old stories probably gets boring to them so they invent new versions of the same worthless garbage.



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To say that Jesus isn't a Christian is incorrect. Christ means anointed and anyone who gets anointed is Christ. Christ is not a surname. To say Jesus Christ is absolutely wrong because it's not his f**king last name. He would be accurately called Jesus the Christ just as anyone else who got oiled up. Some use Christ Jesus as a term and this is more accurate. It means anointed Jesus. Whoopie. It also means Jesus was just one of many who were Christs. There were no doubt Christ Joshua, Christ Sam, Christ Lazarus, Christ John, Christ Mark. There was plenty of oil to go around to make one big a** salad.

3/12/2016 9:56:48 AM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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You are right, many could be considered christed spirits.
Jesus wasn't the first-ever or the last.

3/12/2016 12:26:21 PM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  
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Christian sect?

What i know about urantia is limited to what i read in this forum, mostly furch and kb posting.

Seems more like a group or club of sorts. Cant think of a word to describe it right now........well.....i guess they're like trekkies, but in this case they would be ranties.

I need more info.....anyone know does furch and kb dress in costume and go to conventions? Character role play....that kinda stuff?

3/12/2016 1:01:01 PM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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I don't know kb just says the same thing over and over and furch blocked me, didn't want to talk to me I guess
I only asked about chromosomes and electrons in atoms and surface temp. of the sun etc.

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Quote from olderthandirt20:
Are the Urantian papers really christian in nature? voice your opinion.
If yes, why
If no , why[/quote
Yes check out this. ..
http://www.urantia-book-films.org/education/what-is-the-urantia-book.htm

3/12/2016 3:55:42 PM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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Of course not.
URANTIA (emphases in the original):
www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-195-after-pentecost
Paper 195:9.8 page (2083.4) The world needs more firsthand religion. Even Christianity — the best of the religions of the twentieth century — is not only a religion about Jesus, but it is so largely one which men experience secondhand. They take their religion wholly as handed down by their accepted religious teachers. What an awakening the world would experience if it could only see Jesus as he really lived on earth and know, firsthand, his life-giving teachings! Descriptive words of things beautiful cannot thrill like the sight thereof, neither can creedal words inspire men’s souls like the experience of knowing the presence of God. But expectant faith will ever keep the hope-door of man’s soul open for the entrance of the eternal spiritual realities of the divine values of the worlds beyond.

Paper 195:10.5 page (2084.5) In winning souls for the Master, it is not the first mile of compulsion, duty, or convention that will transform man and his world, but rather the second mile of free service and liberty-loving devotion that betokens the Jesusonian reaching forth to grasp his brother in love and sweep him on under spiritual guidance toward the higher and divine goal of mortal existence. Christianity even now willingly goes the first mile, but mankind languishes and stumbles along in moral darkness because there are so few genuine second-milers — so few professed followers of Jesus who really live and love as he taught his disciples to live and love and serve.
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'The URANTIA Religion - Power of Symbolism' with Robert Sarmast. https://youtube.com/watch?v=outQ8QMisxQ



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'URANTIA Book FAQ': http://truthbook.com/urantia-book-faq

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Quote from lmarcox3:
'URANTIA Book FAQ': http://truthbook.com/urantia-book-faq


Thank you for posting



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(?)
are you always that stupid, aphro?.


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I'm just curious do all of you cut & paste your opinions?

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OK the video & 2 quotes are representative of my own opinion, much more than the other single link.



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Can you put it in your own words?

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Quote from lmarcox3:
OK the video & 2 quotes are representative of my own opinion, much more than the other single link.


Your opinion is based on zero fact making it worthless


3/12/2016 7:53:25 PM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  
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No. It is not recognized as a religion: it is a book. Period.

3/12/2016 8:02:27 PM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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It's not a sect because it's very independent from Christianity & any other religions, even criticizing them where appropriate. See here for more (make up your own mind): www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-195-after-pentecost

3/12/2016 8:04:30 PM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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it's also extremely & extraordinarily alien to Christianity & the other religions, sects, & the perspectives of many philosophies, like pantheism etc.

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No. It is not recognized as a religion: it is a book. Period.


Duh! The bible is a book. Period. The urantia is no less insane than your own personal book of irrational religious fantasy. Your religious beliefs are nonsense and so are urantia's. They are just like you. Neither one of you has any grasp on reality. You're scientifically illiterate and so are they. Your lack of rational thinking processes is just like theirs. You're more alike than different. You pray to one imaginary being they pray to alien adjusters. What's the difference?

3/13/2016 8:54:53 PM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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@ lmarcox3 Since you seem to be the strongest supporter in this thread for the urantia book I am curious how you reconcile the misstated facts contained in the book?

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I can't stand that machine gun, emoticon

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Are the Urantian papers really christian in nature? voice your opinion.
If yes, why
If no , why


I'm forced to take OTD off of block so that I can contribute to his polite sounding thread.

In my opinion, the answer is both yes, and no.

No, because we do not follow Paul, who is the real driver of Christianity, Paul, who never met Jesus, and no too because the bible, particularly the "OT" is largely irrelevant and we don't worship it the way Protestant Christians do. And Catholics just ignore the bible when it suits them to do so and they declare their traditions are equal to or above the bible.

Yes, because in actuality, "Urantians" are really the true Christians, in that they are the true followers of Jesus, not Paul and not any other mere men. And Urantians are the ONLY ones who preach the pure gospel of salvation that Jesus preached, un-confused with any other so called gospels. The last 1/3rd of The Urantia Book contains essentially the New Testament, the story of Jesus' life and teachings, from the celestial records that God's agents (angels and such) kept of Jesus' activities on earth.

Ludlow likes to say, "What is the NT but the history of the Catholic church?"

But what it really is, what it really should be about is Jesus exclusively. And Part IV of The Urantia Book is that. Part IV of The Urantia Book is what the NT should have been. And until Paul showed up talking about Paul, that's what it could have been. If John was the apostle Jesus loved, Paul was the apostle Jesus never heard of.

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Where's that coming from


It's coming from immaturity, the same as before.

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I don't see how a pagan religion like Urantiaism (700,000 gods) can be called Christian.


There are no "gods" in The Urantia Book.

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Maybe parts of it, cuz they seem to really be into Jesus.
On the other hand, lotta Christians seem to attack the Urantians, as a cult


They are threatened by The Urantia Book the same way the Jews or some of them, were threatened by Jesus' teachings. The dominant religion in a culture will always try to suppress and discredit a newer one. This has happened before. And after the Romans persecuted the Christians, the Catholics followed on persecuting anyone who didn't accept their views. Now the worm has turned again.

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Urantia isn't Christian, but then again neither was Jesus. He was some kind of apocalyptic Jew and would have been appalled at people treating him like a god. So I think it's perfectly okay for Urantia fans to argue their Jesusy obsessions with similarly affected groups, as long as they aren't hurting anyone.


Thank you, Clarence. I don't think Jesus was an apocalyptic however. That's what Bart Ehrman says, isn't it? How far are you along with the book? Are you still reading it? Are you reading Part IV, "The Life and teachings of Jesus" yet?

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Are the Urantian papers really christian in nature? voice your opinion.
If yes, why
If no , why


Oh, I see you actually had two different questions. One is "Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion," and the second one is "Are the Urantian papers really christian in nature?"

No, in my opinion they are not particularly Christian in nature as "Christian" implies the gospel according to Paul, etc. They are far more wide ranging that the bible or the NT and at the same time they are far more Jesus oriented than the NT. The Urantia Papers are more "Jesusonian" than Christian.

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How the Hell do you get pagan from that??

How would you know anyways, have you read the damn book, Lud??


No, he has not. He only knows what we have told him or what he wishes to misunderstand for his own purposes.

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i resent that remark about Jesus which is also blasphemy


You resent what remark? Jesus was not the First Christian.

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Christian sect?

What i know about urantia is limited to what i read in this forum, mostly furch and kb posting.

Seems more like a group or club of sorts. Cant think of a word to describe it right now........well.....i guess they're like trekkies, but in this case they would be ranties.

I need more info.....anyone know does furch and kb dress in costume and go to conventions? Character role play....that kinda stuff?


No, none of that. And we're not like Trekkies in any way. And no, we're not a "club." Do you have an honest questions? I'd be happy to answer them.

I've been working on a simple statement of Urantian beliefs. I'll post it here now:

A Urantian Statement of Beliefs

I/we believe in one God, a Trinity comprised of three persons, the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit.

I/we believe that Jesus is a divine Son of God.

I/we believe that "salvation should be taken for granted by those who believe in the fatherhood of God." (188:4.9) (The Urantia Book says that.) "The brotherhood of men is founded on the fatherhood of God. The family of God is derived from the love of God -- God is love. God the Father divinely loves his children, all of them." We must do the same. (134:4.1) The fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man IS the gospel of the kingdom (156:4.3), or as it says in the bible, "Thou shall love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself." (Luke 10:27) And Jesus says, "this do, and thou shall live." (Luke 10:28)

I/we believe that there is a pre-personal fragment of God the Universal Father within every normal minded human being over the age of 5 or 6. As Jesus said in the scriptures, and as it was "probably the greatest pronouncement Jesus ever made," "..behold, the kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:20-21) Not "among you," not "nearby," not "around you," not "in your midst," but "within you." And should you someday align your will perfectly with the will of the Father, you will "fuse" with that fragment of God within you and it will acquire personality and you will acquire divinity, as happened to Elijah and Enoch in the Hebrew scriptures. (2 Kings 2:11) (Hebrews 11:5) And should this "fusion" with the Father fragment occur while you are here on earth, you will be "translated" directly to the "mansions" ("the mansion worlds" in The Urantia Book) that Jesus spoke of in John 14:2. Paul made reference to one of the mansion worlds in 2 Corinthians 12:2.

I/we believe that Jesus came to earth to "bear witness unto the truth." (John 18:37) In other words, to do the Father's will.

I/we believe that The Urantia Book is an epochal revelation of religious truth from God's celestial government to our world, which the book calls "Urantia." The revelation of Jesus, 2000 years ago, was the last such epochal revelation. Before that were the epochal revelations of Melchizedek, Adam and Eve, and last, the Planetary Prince who is now known to us as The Devil.



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I don't know kb just says the same thing over and over and furch blocked me, didn't want to talk to me I guess
I only asked about chromosomes and electrons in atoms and surface temp. of the sun etc.


The Urantia Book doesn't use the word "chromosomes" in the area of the book you're talking about. And as far as I know, no one has been to the sun to stick a thermometer in it and take its temperature. I don't know what your electron question was. I usually don't block serious people.

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Quote from olderthandirt20:
Can you put it in your own words?


Why should we have to reinvent the wheel each time you have a question? Why don't you just read what 4ever suggested? Do you bother with FAQs or do you demand they be re-written each time in someone's own words?

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@ lmarcox3 Since you seem to be the strongest supporter in this thread for the urantia book I am curious how you reconcile the misstated facts contained in the book?


What misstated facts?

There may be some, but sometimes it's just a matter of not reading the text as it says.

That's the case with the chromosome issue you have.



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[]Quote from rufftreasure:[/][]I can't stand that machine gun, emoticon[/]

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He's still doing that, eh?

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No. It is not recognized as a religion: it is a book. Period.

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Not recognized by who?

What if God recognizes it? Is that good enough for you? Does it have to be authorized by the pope? Is that what you're saying?

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Quote from followjesusonly:
Why should we have to reinvent the wheel each time you have a question? Why don't you just read what 4ever suggested? Do you bother with FAQs or do you demand they be re-written each time in someone's own words?


Because I am looking for honest opinions not the propaganda, You know like you ask lud something and all you get are quotes from a so called saint?
Your first post was a good example, you stated your opinion without any links or cut & paste. That is what I wanted to get.


n my opinion, the answer is both yes, and no.

No, because we do not follow Paul, who is the real driver of Christianity, Paul, who never met Jesus, and no too because the bible, particularly the "OT" is largely irrelevant and we don't worship it the way Protestant Christians do. And Catholics just ignore the bible when it suits them to do so and they declare their traditions are equal to or above the bible.

Yes, because in actuality, "Urantians" are really the true Christians, in that they are the true followers of Jesus, not Paul and not any other mere men. And Urantians are the ONLY ones who preach the pure gospel of salvation that Jesus preached, un-confused with any other so called gospels. The last 1/3rd of The Urantia Book contains essentially the New Testament, the story of Jesus' life and teachings, from the celestial records that God's agents (angels and such) kept of Jesus' activities on earth.

Ludlow likes to say, "What is the NT but the history of the Catholic church?"

But what it really is, what it really should be about is Jesus exclusively. And Part IV of The Urantia Book is that. Part IV of The Urantia Book is what the NT should have been. And until Paul showed up talking about Paul, that's what it could have been. If John was the apostle Jesus loved, Paul was the apostle Jesus never heard of.


3/14/2016 9:02:33 AM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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He's still doing that, eh?


Imarcox 3,? Yes he is!!

Symbolism is powerful

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No. It is not recognized as a religion: it is a book. Period.

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Not recognized by who?

What if God recognizes it? Is that good enough for you? Does it have to be authorized by the pope? Is that what you're saying?


I was playing nice with Cup, and next thing you know she blocked me

I'm guessing she wasn't having fun with that



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What misstated facts?

There may be some, but sometimes it's just a matter of not reading the text as it says.

That's the case with the chromosome issue you have.


http://www.equip.org/article/urantia-the-great-cult-mystery/

Eventually, Gardner comes to the science of the UB. If the UB really were an extraterrestrial revelation, it should accurately describe our universe. It fails this test miserably. The UB claims the universe is over one trillion years old; most scientists date it at about 15 billion years (186). The temperature it assigns to the sun’s surface is off by thousands of degrees (190); it falsely says that Mercury keeps the same face towards the sun (196). The UB teaches that humans have 48 chromosomes; it should be 46 (217). Atoms supposedly cannot possess more than 100 electrons; this “limit” was broken in 1955, as any periodic table will confirm (214).


Kb & I have debated the chromosome to the point of we just can't agree, any input you have would be appreciated.

3/14/2016 9:52:24 AM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  
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Urantia isn't Christian, but then again neither was Jesus. He was some kind of apocalyptic Jew and would have been appalled at people treating him like a god. So I think it's perfectly okay for Urantia fans to argue their Jesusy obsessions with similarly affected groups, as long as they aren't hurting anyone.
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Thank you, Clarence. I don't think Jesus was an apocalyptic however. That's what Bart Ehrman says, isn't it?

Yes, Bart Ehrman and many other scholars agree that the evidence shows Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet. Some of those scholars are also Christians and separate their belief in a divine Jesus from what can be established about the beliefs and teachings of the historical Jesus.

Here's a good page to bookmark if you'd like to investigate some Jesus scholarship.




                                                             http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/jesus/bartehrman.html

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How far are you along with the book? Are you still reading it? Are you reading Part IV, "The Life and teachings of Jesus" yet?
3/14/2016 10:11:25 AM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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Thanks Clarencec, as you know, I have read many of Bart's books!!

Good book mark, right here!!

3/14/2016 10:45:30 AM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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We're ending an age . That has never began . Jesus wasn't a saint , he was the trash of a clan , that always wanted to dispose of him . Once he was dealt with , they do whatever they want with him .

3/14/2016 10:53:37 AM Is urantia a christian sect in your opinion  

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Christians don't see the character that died , they see the character that was resurrected .

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Sometimes the FAQs have already been done.

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Because I am looking for honest opinions not the propaganda, You know like you ask lud something and all you get are quotes from a so called saint?
Your first post was a good example, you stated your opinion without any links or cut & paste. That is what I wanted to get.


As Mick Jagger says, "You can't always get what you want." ("But if you try some time, you just might find, you get what you need.")

So you think you can ask the questions, AND dictate the manner in which you get the answers, is that right? Last night on The Simpsons, Marge said to Lisa, "The Ego has landed!" What a great line indeed.