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5/7/2012 10:50:31 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

vikism215
Philadelphia, PA
21, joined Apr. 2012


theres has been alot of debates of what sports cars better turbo awd EVO or turbo awd STI p.s if you are a owner of of evo or sti and into racing check out turbotektuning.com from wheels proformence part to tunes we have everything




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5/8/2012 5:24:09 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
rhansen
Davenport, IA
45, joined Jan. 2011


I vote none of the above



5/8/2012 10:12:27 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
peter_pan1968
Adrian, MI
28, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from rhansen:
I vote none of the above

cosworth rs500 4x4

5/8/2012 10:21:31 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

fastpony
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (68,571)
Hammond, IN
41, joined Apr. 2007


that mustang seemed like it was struggling.

5/9/2012 10:23:16 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

dtyndal
Grand Junction, CO
21, joined May. 2012


Evo fo sure

5/10/2012 11:56:50 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
xxgiantmidgetxx
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (31,298)
Sherman Oaks, CA
35, joined Feb. 2012


I perfer sti....more durable

5/11/2012 10:44:04 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

dylnems
Hersey, MI
22, joined May. 2012


The sti is the obvious winner. It has more championships than the evo could dream of getting!

5/16/2012 10:53:59 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
encuentros
Denver, CO
31, joined May. 2011


EVO

8/16/2012 4:41:41 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

adrenaline24
Tuscaloosa, AL
25, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from vikism215:
theres has been alot of debates of what sports cars better turbo awd EVO or turbo awd STI p.s if you are a owner of of evo or sti and into racing check out turbotektuning.com from wheels proformence part to tunes we have everything



To be honest I'm not a big fan of either but between these two EVO has more potential and would be my choice. Idk how much $$ u plan on dumping in to make it faster though. There's a guy around here daily driving an EVO running low 9's..

8/16/2012 4:50:30 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
notverycreative
Over 1,000 Posts (1,854)
Ocklawaha, FL
23, joined Feb. 2012


Why does it always have to be EVO vs S TI in a awd class? For the price you can buy a used EVO you could probably pick up a gsx, vr4, baja beetle, aubaru wagon ect.. and build close to a 10 second ride

8/16/2012 5:19:52 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
peter_pan1968
Adrian, MI
28, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from notverycreative:
Why does it always have to be EVO vs S TI in a awd class? For the price you can buy a used EVO you could probably pick up a gsx, vr4, baja beetle, aubaru wagon ect.. and build close to a 10 second ride
. They are the most closely related in price, size and power... Yours are kinda the nerdy kids in a jock contest. Vr4s and gsxs had a tendency to explode violently under heavy boost, subaru wagons were never that fast... And baja beetles arent awd.

8/16/2012 11:14:27 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
painkiller9
Stony Point, NY
32, joined Aug. 2012


I vote STi... Of course I'm biased because I have an 04 stage 2 STi. Evos are awesome. And these days they are more high tech then the STi. But when i was car shopping, it was between my STi and an EVO 8... Both used... Unfortunately the Evos are only good when thy are new... EVO is kinda like the rich kid car now... Gotta buy it brand new or It's worthless... But i see a lot of STi with 150-180,000 miles still running strong. The big turbo on that 2.0 liter block kills th EVO motor too early.

10/3/2012 8:05:08 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

subaru4thewin
Billings, MT
31, joined Oct. 2012


Its as simple as this, you can harness more power with less money from and Evo then an Sti and ecosystem are a little quicker around the track stock to stock but as far as daily driver/ track car compared to just track car I go Sti. When you start dumping money I to the 2 of them they are even. But going fro stock to light mods evo's are more efficient for power gains. But at the end of the day your still driving an evo not an Sti. There in lies the problem. The awd isn't as good as subarus not to mention the gear box. The Turbo is in a shitty spot and upside down in an evo. Did I mention subarus sound better also? Hahahaha I own and worship subarus but I'm not going to make a biased comment just because of that. Evos throw down, but its like owning a mustang, at the end of the day your still parking just a Mitsubishi in your garage.

10/3/2012 8:07:08 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

subaru4thewin
Billings, MT
31, joined Oct. 2012


Painkiller9 your Evo info is horribly incorrect. Sorry bro. And leave the "my car is stage whatever" to the silly Honda ricers.

10/4/2012 12:23:34 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
peter_pan1968
Adrian, MI
28, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from subaru4thewin:
Painkiller9 your Evo info is horribly incorrect. Sorry bro. And leave the "my car is stage whatever" to the silly Honda ricers.
. I like him.

10/4/2012 5:05:54 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

stevex0x0
Highland Mills, NY
21, joined Jul. 2012


In the 90's I say sti. Early 2000's evo. Right now sti, evo 10 is getting old and the new sti is awesome.

10/5/2012 4:57:20 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
gentlegiant87
Houston, TX
28, joined Jan. 2012


No GTR? Hands down the best car ever.

10/5/2012 6:43:54 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
wildkard9
Junction City, KS
32, joined Aug. 2009


Quote from gentlegiant87:
No GTR? Hands down the best car ever.



At three times the price. Not many REAL people can afford to drop that kind of money for a car whose warranty is expressly implied should it be modified or raced that it is then voided. Even to the point of swapping tires or rims.

10/6/2012 12:29:31 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
gentlegiant87
Houston, TX
28, joined Jan. 2012


Quote from wildkard9:
At three times the price. Not many REAL people can afford to drop that kind of money for a car whose warranty is expressly implied should it be modified or raced that it is then voided. Even to the point of swapping tires or rims.


Lol I'm screwed

10/6/2012 9:59:29 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
amber1011
Camp Hill, PA
32, joined Aug. 2009


I vote neither because both are Japanese. Can we get a VW R in there? Similar price...

10/8/2012 2:02:39 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

subaru4thewin
Billings, MT
31, joined Oct. 2012


Not sure why you would choose a VW over a Japanese car. They are 3x as expensive to fix when they break, not to mention after the 150000mi mark they usually leak oil like all the gaskets just disappeared. . . Oh yeah and their awd they produce is junk and only offered on their luxury models and the r32. WEAK!!! and did I mention they are SLOOOOOOOOOOOW. . . but otherwise good cars. Hahahaha

10/9/2012 5:16:46 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

91s13sr20det
Lebanon, PA
28, joined Sep. 2012


Just get an American car! AMRICUH!!



I kid, I joke, I make funny. lol

Anywho, aside from my smart a** comments... Well, from what I've seen at the track, I know that both of those cars max out at about 550HP without dumping gargantuan amounts of cash into them. Overall, both are sick no matter what you wanna do with them. Drag, road course, or rally.

I like the STI's the best overall, and a Subie will last you for a long time. Just keep up on the maintenance (like any ride).

Plus, get a nice exhaust system, and even before people see you, they'll know what you drive.



Oh, and random... but to the guy mentioning stuff about a GTR. I'm a Nissan enthusiast as well, however, that was pretty far off topic. lol Yeah, it's AWD, but that's about it. lol Perhaps an R33 would be in the same price bracket, but it's only good for road course and drag (maybe drift if you get a GTS-T). But with the technology into the newer STI and EVO, there'd be little competition from the R33 without upgrades.

10/9/2012 9:30:29 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
gentlegiant87
Houston, TX
28, joined Jan. 2012


Quote from 91s13sr20det:
Just get an American car! AMRICUH!!



I kid, I joke, I make funny. lol

Anywho, aside from my smart a** comments... Well, from what I've seen at the track, I know that both of those cars max out at about 550HP without dumping gargantuan amounts of cash into them. Overall, both are sick no matter what you wanna do with them. Drag, road course, or rally.

I like the STI's the best overall, and a Subie will last you for a long time. Just keep up on the maintenance (like any ride).

Plus, get a nice exhaust system, and even before people see you, they'll know what you drive.



Oh, and random... but to the guy mentioning stuff about a GTR. I'm a Nissan enthusiast as well, however, that was pretty far off topic. lol Yeah, it's AWD, but that's about it. lol Perhaps an R33 would be in the same price bracket, but it's only good for road course and drag (maybe drift if you get a GTS-T). But with the technology into the newer STI and EVO, there'd be little competition from the R33 without upgrades.


LOL at calling a nodded sti reliable my 2005 blew the piston rings at 22psi on gt35r, 1000cc, water/meth tuned with arm ems. Built the motor with wiseco, etc. Got it running then I lined her up from a dig and the tranny exploded 5k rpm launches are Badass. Anyways I fixed that with a stock tranny put her back to stock and sold it. Bought a 9 MR, slapped the 35R and 1000cc, water/meth on a reflash ecu and put 600whp on stock internals/trans minus a shep center diff. Then went off to college and got a vette it was procharged. Now I haz 2010 GTR. and yes my parents funded the sti and evo builds plus paying for the cars. So to OP you're better off with the evo compared to the sti. Boxer engines are crap unless its a Porsche.

10/9/2012 11:17:20 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
peter_pan1968
Adrian, MI
28, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from gentlegiant87:
LOL at calling a nodded sti reliable my 2005 blew the piston rings at 22psi on gt35r, 1000cc, water/meth tuned with arm ems. Built the motor with wiseco, etc. Got it running then I lined her up from a dig and the tranny exploded 5k rpm launches are Badass. Anyways I fixed that with a stock tranny put her back to stock and sold it. Bought a 9 MR, slapped the 35R and 1000cc, water/meth on a reflash ecu and put 600whp on stock internals/trans minus a shep center diff. Then went off to college and got a vette it was procharged. Now I haz 2010 GTR. and yes my parents funded the sti and evo builds plus paying for the cars. So to OP you're better off with the evo compared to the sti. Boxer engines are crap unless its a Porsche.
. Listen to what you're saying... Blew the piston rings AFTER an engine build... Proper break in? I doubt it. Proper honing and block prep? Doubt that too. And 5k dumps on a stock trans will blow almost any trans to pieces after that kind of abuse. Also consider the torque curve of the subaru as opposed to the MR... Subies make torque in the lower rpm range, so breaking parts is a lot more likely to happen when abused. Plenty of subarus are out there pushing +600hp and doing so with a decent bottom end and proper tuning.

10/9/2012 12:22:36 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
gentlegiant87
Houston, TX
28, joined Jan. 2012


Quote from peter_pan1968:
. Listen to what you're saying... Blew the piston rings AFTER an engine build... Proper break in? I doubt it. Proper honing and block prep? Doubt that too. And 5k dumps on a stock trans will blow almost any trans to pieces after that kind of abuse. Also consider the torque curve of the subaru as opposed to the MR... Subies make torque in the lower rpm range, so breaking parts is a lot more likely to happen when abused. Plenty of subarus are out there pushing +600hp and doing so with a decent bottom end and proper tuning.


Who builds a brand new car? The motor went after the turbo upgrade, then I built it obviously and the trans went. After that i put a stock tranny, put it back to stock and sold it. The point is I wasted more money in the sti to get it to run like the 9. And trust me the evo doesn't need torque at low rpms when you can shift it past 9k rpm. On a stock head, only 272s or the like installed.

10/9/2012 1:48:04 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
wildkard9
Junction City, KS
32, joined Aug. 2009


Quote from gentlegiant87:
Who builds a brand new car? The motor went after the turbo upgrade, then I built it obviously and the trans went. After that i put a stock tranny, put it back to stock and sold it. The point is I wasted more money in the sti to get it to run like the 9. And trust me the evo doesn't need torque at low rpms when you can shift it past 9k rpm. On a stock head, only 272s or the like installed.




<----Right here. If you are serious about performance. And I don't mean weekend warrior serious. You do it right from the start, or don't do it at all. Halfassed builds, mismatched setups and parts, and lack of foresight into what a person wants has flooded youtube with idiot moments where awesome car A bites the dust. lol

10/9/2012 6:11:48 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
gentlegiant87
Houston, TX
28, joined Jan. 2012


Quote from wildkard9:
<----Right here. If you are serious about performance. And I don't mean weekend warrior serious. You do it right from the start, or don't do it at all. Halfassed builds, mismatched setups and parts, and lack of foresight into what a person wants has flooded youtube with idiot moments where awesome car A bites the dust. lol


I'm serious about performance, which is why I got a GTR. I want the new black edition though

10/9/2012 6:20:03 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

91s13sr20det
Lebanon, PA
28, joined Sep. 2012


Quote from gentlegiant87:
I'm serious about performance, which is why I got a GTR. I want the new black edition though


Oh, you have a GTR? That's sick! Do you keep it in track mode all the time? haha

10/10/2012 5:51:49 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
peter_pan1968
Adrian, MI
28, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from gentlegiant87:
I'm serious about performance, which is why I got a GTR. I want the new black edition though
. Lol. Really? So you're saying all performance car owners are performance enthusiasts? I see a slight error in implied logic here, bro.

10/10/2012 8:11:02 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
gentlegiant87
Houston, TX
28, joined Jan. 2012


Quote from peter_pan1968:
. Lol. Really? So you're saying all performance car owners are performance enthusiasts? I see a slight error in implied logic here, bro.


Not really, just rich. Car enthusiasts drive 240s with Sr20 swaps and drift 

Quote from 91s13sr20det:
Oh, you have a GTR? That's sick! Do you keep it in track mode all the time? haha


Yes sir, I don't care for warranties.I got it used

10/10/2012 11:14:45 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
peter_pan1968
Adrian, MI
28, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from gentlegiant87:
Yes sir, I don't care for warranties.I got it used
. So drifting and 240sx owners are now the only car enthusiasts? Your logic is awful.

10/10/2012 1:26:17 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
gentlegiant87
Houston, TX
28, joined Jan. 2012


Quote from peter_pan1968:
. So drifting and 240sx owners are now the only car enthusiasts? Your logic is awful.


This is not the topic anymore. Mayne

10/10/2012 2:53:07 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

subaru4thewin
Billings, MT
31, joined Oct. 2012


Last time I checked rich kids don't build ANYTHING properly. Just saying. And again Sti over Evo.

10/10/2012 3:05:38 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
peter_pan1968
Adrian, MI
28, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from gentlegiant87:
This is not the topic anymore. Mayne


Neither is anything to do with a GTR. However, you so chose to delve into such a topic, so I choose to find error in your statements.

10/10/2012 9:33:56 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
okc44thunder
Oklahoma City, OK
34, joined Aug. 2012


EVO HANDS DOWN

10/10/2012 10:33:16 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

91s13sr20det
Lebanon, PA
28, joined Sep. 2012


Thing is about the GTR... unless you have it modded with EXPENSIVE software, you can't drive it on the streets in track mode. Once at a track the GPS will enable the GTR to fully open up. On the streets it's somewhat wattered down a little (still quick none-the-less). Also, I know if I owned a GTR, I would be VERY worried about the warranty. The engine is engineered so freakin tight, and the tolerances are crazy small. Plus, if it's one of the early year new GTR's, I'd really take it easy on the launch control. You'll kill your trans in no time. A glitch the early ones had in the launch control... Aside from that, Godzilla is back. haha

10/10/2012 10:34:57 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

91s13sr20det
Lebanon, PA
28, joined Sep. 2012


D'oh!! Just realized how far off topic we are! lol

I say neither! Get a DeLorean! haha At 88mph is where the real shit begins! haha


10/10/2012 10:40:34 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
aatwood1
Nashville, TN
24, joined Dec. 2011


None of you guys know anything about building motors or how to tune,Evo this Sti that, your all dumb

10/10/2012 11:43:23 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
peter_pan1968
Adrian, MI
28, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from aatwood1:
None of you guys know anything about building motors or how to tune,Evo this Sti that, your all dumb
. Lol... Such big words for such little testicles... What are your credentials, may I ask?

10/11/2012 3:06:49 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
aatwood1
Nashville, TN
24, joined Dec. 2011


Lol you ask ill tell, I own an Sti and have built multiple so ask away bud, hope your ready to look like a dumbass

10/11/2012 4:13:27 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
peter_pan1968
Adrian, MI
28, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from aatwood1:
Lol you ask ill tell, I own an Sti and have built multiple so ask away bud, hope your ready to look like a dumbass
. Have built multiple huh? I've built hundreds, if not thousands of cars. I asked for your credentials and you tell me that you own an sti. That's not a credential... Im quite sure that many people own stis, but don't put "sti owner" on a resume. So enlighten me, tough guy... Make me feel like a dumbass.

10/11/2012 6:08:59 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

91s13sr20det
Lebanon, PA
28, joined Sep. 2012


Quote from aatwood1:
Lol you ask ill tell, I own an Sti and have built multiple so ask away bud, hope your ready to look like a dumbass


TROLOLOL ALERT!

I think the only STI you have is a Sexually Transmitted Infection that affected your brain function.

So, according to your theory; If I count the numerous 240sx's that I've built, I'm an expert in the field? Hardly. I know I've got a lot to learn yet, but I know enough to call bullshit on someone like you.

Just because you can clamp a fart cannon onto your exhaust pipe doesn't make you a certified Subaru tech. Either way, the guy that you're barking at actually knows his shit. Ask him.

You sound like most of the 13 year old kids that played way too much need for speed commenting on a youtube video about how shit should be built. Puh-lease...

10/12/2012 1:31:20 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

subaru4thewin
Billings, MT
31, joined Oct. 2012


Quote from aatwood1:
None of you guys know anything about building motors or how to tune,Evo this Sti that, your all dumb


Here's my build f*ggot. Tell me I'm dumb and don't know shit. Finish your coloring book before getting online next time.

Engine: Agency Power lightweight crank shaft pulley RalliTEK spark plug wires SOHC heads P&P w/ performance valves & springs by Custom Import Heads/Delta Cams - Custom Import Heads Link Delta Cams 2000 grind for the 2.5i AVO Turbo Kit w/ 5psi actuator - AVO Turbo Kit Link The pics on AVO's site of the turbo kit are of this car and my dyno graph from runs @ P.S.I. while tuned by Sean Sexton Walbro 255L fuel pump TurboSmart bypass valve

Electronics: WRX gauge cluster custom Sean Sexton Dyno Tune @ P.S.I.

Suspension: Tokiko D-spec Adjustable Struts Tokico D-Spec Adjuster Extensions for the rear seat Tanabe GF210 Lowering Springs 22mm RalliTEK Front Sway Bar 22mm-24mm RalliTEK Adjustable Rear Sway Bar RalliTEK Rear Endlinks RalliTEK HD Rear Sway Bar Mounting Brackets w/ Poly Bushings AVO front HD end links Kartboy rear subframe locking bolts STi front and rear strut brace

Transmission: RalliTEK shifter bushings AVO steering rack bushings AVO transmission mount bushings AVO rear differential bushings STi RA 5-Speed Transmission WRX axles TWM Short Shifter SickSpeed pink 5-speed shifter knob Stage1 Organic Greddy Clutch and Pressure Plate *** clutch not quite enough for the car's currrent torque.

Brakes: Goodridge SS brake lines EBC red stuff brake pads Perrin brake master cylinder brace Dot4 racing brake fluid

Exterior: Full vinyl wrap from SoloGraphics of Billings, MT for DarkPerformance.com you'll see my car in multiple pics on this site matching headlight vinyl eyelids Carbon Fiber upper grill inserts tinted rear tail lights All windows tinted to 20% including sun strip in front window Stock 5 spoke wheels painted black and a set of rota grids 18x9 painted neon yellow.

Car has around 50k on the chassis RA tranny/rear diff has around 60k Turbo kit has less than 10k Suspension has less than 10k she also has a rear roof difuser.

10/15/2012 3:11:53 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
nickjg123
Newington, CT
20, joined Sep. 2012


in the books and on paper, the EVO but by personal preference and the ability to do more costumization the STI

10/26/2012 7:47:18 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
gentlegiant87
Houston, TX
28, joined Jan. 2012


Im high as fuk

10/26/2012 7:55:17 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (146,483)
Assumption, IL
66, joined May. 2010


(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

10/27/2012 11:39:32 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
beyourboytoy
Calgary, AB
23, joined Oct. 2012


I have a 95 JDM wrx with the ej 20. The STI came out in 94 right? How far off is my car from the early STI's?

10/27/2012 3:24:59 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
peter_pan1968
Adrian, MI
28, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from beyourboytoy:
I have a 95 JDM wrx with the ej 20. The STI came out in 94 right? How far off is my car from the early STI's?
. Far enough.

10/28/2012 10:56:33 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (146,483)
Assumption, IL
66, joined May. 2010


(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

11/19/2012 12:30:18 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

subaru4thewin
Billings, MT
31, joined Oct. 2012


The sti was released as a production car in 94. They had been building them for a few years prior to that as race cars only. And you are more then likely a ways away from.being an sti.

11/28/2012 9:44:55 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

big_bear87
Midland, MI
27, joined Oct. 2010


Ever hear an sti drive away... . I'm pretty sure it says oiill llleeaakeerr!

12/23/2012 1:52:21 PM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (146,483)
Assumption, IL
66, joined May. 2010




12/24/2012 11:42:01 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  
travis3068
Humble, TX
32, joined Dec. 2012


Evo hands down. Plus anything with a 6bolt 4g63...

12/31/2012 12:18:51 AM What car is better EVO OR STI?  

subaru4thewin
Billings, MT
31, joined Oct. 2012


Quote from big_bear87:
Ever hear an sti drive away... . I'm pretty sure it says oiill llleeaakeerr!

this is one of the worst attempts at a put down on an sti i have ever seen. Its the same argument as cam vs stang. Like whatever you want. Dont let other people convince you one is better. Oscar wilde said it best, "Any man convinced by an argument is a thoroughly unreasonable person." in other words make your own mind up dont allow others to do it for you.