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9/22/2012 3:33:41 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

calthropstu
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I've driven through a couple areas and it looks so bad...

The national statistics has it at nearly the bottom of the barrel in every aspect.

Yet it's still one of the largest cities in the country.

How can it be THAT bad if there's 3/4 million people living there?

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9/22/2012 5:51:34 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
lefty247
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Swartz Creek, MI
67, joined Apr. 2009


When I grew up there were close to 2 million people there. But the 1967 riots escalated white flight to the burbs > Livonia being one destination. Det is now a shell of it's formers self, with the mayor wanting to turn much of the vacated land back into farming. Crime is rampant including homicide. It consistently ranks as one of the most dangerous cities in the country along with Flint. The schools are plagued by mismanagement at the highest levels.

I'm guessing it won't be long before Robo Cop actually does the patrolling in Det. It's far too dangerous for the police in many areas. I've seen the cops pull a car over, one officer gets out to speak with the driver. The other officer stands behind the car with a loaded shotgun pointed at the driver through the rear window with his finger on the trigger. One false move, & it's lights out.

Recently, there was a story about a guy who was arguing with his g/f. The woman's 18 year old son stepped in to help his mom. The b/f pulls out a gun, the son does the same. They end up shooting each other dead. Another time at a downtown Coney Island restaurant, a guy is ordering food when another comes up behind him, pulls a gun & demands money. The guy doing the ordering, pulls his gun, shoots the robber, but the robber squeezes off one shot as he's dying & wounds the first. This stuff goes on every day.

I don't see any redemption for the Motor City anytime soon, sad to say.

9/22/2012 6:40:32 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

tcretiredhippie
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,834)
Durand, WI
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Trust me its worse. Used to party on the lower east side. Wouldnt go there now; stones shrank

9/22/2012 7:41:20 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

cdnbcn
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (23,009)
Roseville, MI
45, joined Mar. 2009


I moved here 11 years ago. I used to hear things about it. It's not quite what they say, it's much, much worse! No joke!
It comes up in conversation with friends and they just can't believe it's so bad.

9/23/2012 12:13:56 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

phoeonixfire
Grand Rapids, MI
22, joined Nov. 2011


Crap clings to crap

9/23/2012 3:27:15 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
coldbluesun02
Southfield, MI
30, joined May. 2012


Livonia is just as bad

9/23/2012 10:20:32 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

liv_lov_laf
Waterford, MI
55, joined Sep. 2012


I think you're thinking of Inkster not Livonia. Livonia is waaaaaaay better than Detroit.

9/24/2012 8:48:29 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
fatimax
Southfield, MI
51, joined Jun. 2012


Well Detroit is not a good place to live at this point. I have many memories of Detroit and the way it use to be. When we had everything...now there is absolutely nothing. Going up on Grandriver for a kid who just got their allowance was something special, going to S.S. Kresgees not to mention Going downtown with my parents shopping at Hudson Dept. store.....It's Heartbreaking

9/24/2012 11:50:06 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

loyalfaithful
Yale, MI
61, joined Apr. 2008


I grew up in Detroit, when it was a very beautiful city to shop and visit the downtown areas.As a older male I worked for Mr. Brickley that ownen the Dary business at 6 and Dequindre.That is tiotaly gone, as the neighboor hood of Orleans st..Ahh the Davidson and Jos. Compeu are was great, a pool hall, some very nice small frendly bars.
What a shame, drugs and violance has done to that great dity !
I wouldnt go there for any reason or any amount of money..NO WAY, I prefer to live my life, and not carry my gun to visit a city !!

9/24/2012 10:43:25 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
quiet_moon
Holland, MI
53, joined Feb. 2011


Unfortunately, it is. Cultural and long-time festival events are moving out and the wannabe gangsters/idiots have been having a field day.

During the Coleman years it was actually, not too bad. If you were careful where you went. (I spent a lot of time in Detroit, as my inlaws lived there).

Lots of people walking tall, with pride for this (once) great city, but with our country's economic issues.. and corrupt city leaders..(kilpatrick..what a douche).. it is a sad shadow of it's once upon a time glory.

9/25/2012 4:19:42 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

tcretiredhippie
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,834)
Durand, WI
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Quote from phoeonixfire:
Crap clings to crap
yeah and gr is ctacktown

9/26/2012 4:56:36 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

qualified66
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,113)
Detroit, MI
49, joined Jul. 2010


Im in Detroit,near downtown. Its not as bad as it seem...well wait the east side is. I been here since I was 7 and I havent had any problems. Have 4 kids all graduated. Not to mention I have 3 sons..never been arrested all three have good jobs. They never been in a gang. Its how you live your life and who you surround yourself with. Thats just my opinion.

9/26/2012 11:27:28 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

laredo_67
Flint, MI
48, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from coldbluesun02:
Livonia is just as bad


A few years bad Livonia was actually considered the 7th safest city in the country to live in

9/26/2012 1:05:30 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

angelinneed6977
Dearborn Heights, MI
50, joined Sep. 2012


NO its so much worse! And its moving to every area. But the D wow them peeps own the place. What ever happened to using a fist and opening a good can of whoop a** on someone!


9/26/2012 1:55:06 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

angelinneed6977
Dearborn Heights, MI
50, joined Sep. 2012


They need a bulletin board staying "ENTER DETROIT AT OWN RISK"

9/27/2012 12:59:04 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
hallpass4me
Perry, MI
37, joined Aug. 2012


I used to live in brightmoor near the redford border at schoolcraft and outer drive, near eliza howell park. I was a kid when I lived there and that place was a declining cesspool back in the mid to late 80's. Moved out of there in '89. The schools were so bad my mom drove me to my grandma's place in garden city to go to school. Our house was broken into twice, 2 cars jacked, crackheads down the end of the block and thieves everywhere. My house was a rental, and all the aluminum siding and fencing was ripped off it before the place was torched. I drove by there a few years ago when my grandma passed. Can't believe people still live down there... It's a war zone in some places.

It's so cold in the 'D...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktLRiWXfqg

9/27/2012 2:00:32 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

bigultra
Detroit, MI
56, joined Sep. 2012


I've been in Detroit All of my life! Raised a family here all my Children went to Public Schools! I recently moved back into my Childhood Home, I must admit the Neighborhood has Changed. But as far as Crime, it's has got worse, but as a Detroit News Carrier from the Age of 12-18, I seen and experienced alot, it opened up my eyes to what happens on the the mean streets of Detroit. Some of you grew up in a shelter live or lived In the nicer neighborhoods. As a District Manager For The Detroit News I even had a broader view of Detroit in the White, Black, Hispanic, and mixed Areas. There where many isolated areas where crime was high in Detroit in the 60's, 70's, erc. It just now the News is Concentrating on reporting every crime that happens. We need news reporting positive things on a daily basis, because it's happening everyday! People always talking about "I DON NOT NEED ANUNEGATIVITY IN MY LIFE" But areso quick to watch and listen to all the

9/27/2012 2:04:55 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

bigultra
Detroit, MI
56, joined Sep. 2012


Brightmoor was always a Bad A,rea, Motorcycle Clubs up the Ass u p and down Fenkell Black Clubs on oneside White Clubs on the other, Porn Businesses, drug, prostitutions, you where in just a bad area.

9/28/2012 1:05:05 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

calthropstu
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Quote from bigultra:I've been in Detroit All of my life! Raised a family here all my Children went to Public Schools! I recently moved back into my Childhood Home, I must admit the Neighborhood has Changed. But as far as Crime, it's has got worse, but as a Detroit News Carrier from the Age of 12-18, I seen and experienced alot, it opened up my eyes to what happens on the the mean streets of Detroit. Some of you grew up in a shelter live or lived In the nicer neighborhoods. As a District Manager For The Detroit News I even had a broader view of Detroit in the White, Black, Hispanic, and mixed Areas. There where many isolated areas where crime was high in Detroit in the 60's, 70's, erc. It just now the News is Concentrating on reporting every crime that happens. We need news reporting positive things on a daily basis, because it's happening everyday! People always talking about "I DON NOT NEED ANUNEGATIVITY IN MY LIFE" But areso quick to watch and listen to all the


I saw a news cast a couple weeks ago stating the worst statistic I have ever seen for a city: 70% lower than 12th grade literacy rate.

That is the most horrible statistic for any major city in the country.

Checking the crime rates, Detroit has the highest crime rate in the country at 15 times the national average. No other city comes close. They talk about flint being bad: Flint only has a crime rate of 9 times the national average. Pontiac: 8 times. Saginaw? also 9 times. When there are 5 Michigan cities on the 20 worst crime cities in the country list - which btw is also one of the worst crime countries in the world - you know there's something seriously wrong.

10/2/2012 11:05:42 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

tyeki
Detroit, MI
37, joined Mar. 2011


I saw a news cast a couple weeks ago stating the worst statistic I have ever seen for a city: 70% lower than 12th grade literacy rate.

That is the most horrible statistic for any major city in the country.

The reporters who ran this story, starting a year ago rehashed this information from an old report. The survey was based on a National Survey from 1993 of 26,000 people. When The National Adult Literacy Survey did this study they warned you to not use the information for a locale statistics as it was based on a County level. In 2009 the Wayne County illiteracy rate was at 12%. The only way Detroit could be at 70% while the County is at 12%, there would be no illiteracy no where in Wayne County other than Detroit, and thats impossible. Yes illiteracy does exist in Detroit, as it does in many other places as well.

For those of you who don't live here, I would like to let you know majority of the crime that goes on in this city is due to the lifestyle these people lead. Most times these things aren't random, it's drug dealers killing one another, people involving themselves in criminal behavior and activity, and hanging with those type of people. Does it look bad in certain areas, sure!! If the horrible city leaders stop stealing the money and misuse of the funds, probably wouldn't look so bad. And the horrible part is they are all bad, hasn't really mattered who we voted in. ALL BAD!!!!

Yes, crime is ridiculous!!! And thanks to media, they will keep you informed on the bad, rarely highlighting any good. I appreciate knowing though, I will admit, but DETROIT MOST DANGEROUS CITY???? Not hardly, The F.B.I are the one's who rank the statistics of "dangerous cities" in which they collect information reported to them from that city. The F.B.I advises you not to use their list because its always incomplete waiting for reports to come in. The F.B.I does not involve themselves with every case so they depend on the city to report what they don't know. It is not manditory that you report all cases either. As a matter of fact Chicago doesn't report at all!!!!

So again, knowing the truth about these statistics and how they work is very important.

10/3/2012 6:07:41 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

calthropstu
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Quote from tyeki:
I saw a news cast a couple weeks ago stating the worst statistic I have ever seen for a city: 70% lower than 12th grade literacy rate.

That is the most horrible statistic for any major city in the country.

The reporters who ran this story, starting a year ago rehashed this information from an old report. The survey was based on a National Survey from 1993 of 26,000 people. When The National Adult Literacy Survey did this study they warned you to not use the information for a locale statistics as it was based on a County level. In 2009 the Wayne County illiteracy rate was at 12%. The only way Detroit could be at 70% while the County is at 12%, there would be no illiteracy no where in Wayne County other than Detroit, and thats impossible. Yes illiteracy does exist in Detroit, as it does in many other places as well.

For those of you who don't live here, I would like to let you know majority of the crime that goes on in this city is due to the lifestyle these people lead. Most times these things aren't random, it's drug dealers killing one another, people involving themselves in criminal behavior and activity, and hanging with those type of people. Does it look bad in certain areas, sure!! If the horrible city leaders stop stealing the money and misuse of the funds, probably wouldn't look so bad. And the horrible part is they are all bad, hasn't really mattered who we voted in. ALL BAD!!!!

Yes, crime is ridiculous!!! And thanks to media, they will keep you informed on the bad, rarely highlighting any good. I appreciate knowing though, I will admit, but DETROIT MOST DANGEROUS CITY???? Not hardly, The F.B.I are the one's who rank the statistics of "dangerous cities" in which they collect information reported to them from that city. The F.B.I advises you not to use their list because its always incomplete waiting for reports to come in. The F.B.I does not involve themselves with every case so they depend on the city to report what they don't know. It is not manditory that you report all cases either. As a matter of fact Chicago doesn't report at all!!!!

So again, knowing the truth about these statistics and how they work is very important.



I've done enough research into the matter to understand I do not want to live there. I've been, I've seen, I left and don't want to return. The whole place, even the nice parts, has this pathetic look. Compared to Chicago or NYC the place feels... dead. The atmosphere is terrible and the air left a bad taste in my mouth.

10/3/2012 9:38:21 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

qualified66
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Detroit, MI
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There are times when the news media do a crime report in Dearborn they always say Detroit instead of where the crime actually happen like in Dearborn.

10/3/2012 10:20:56 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

tyeki
Detroit, MI
37, joined Mar. 2011


Quote from calthropstu:
I've done enough research into the matter to understand I do not want to live there. I've been, I've seen, I left and don't want to return. The whole place, even the nice parts, has this pathetic look. Compared to Chicago or NYC the place feels... dead. The atmosphere is terrible and the air left a bad taste in my mouth.



Compared to Chicago or NYC the place feels dead???.... I guess so, if your thinking "The good parts of NYC and Chicago" I know your not standing in the middle of the Cabrini Greens or Yonkers Projects with that thought.. I appreciate the power of choice and opinion every major city has it's good parts and bad parts.... If you don't like, you have the right idea.... Don't live there. I was merely commenting on the false statistics...

10/4/2012 12:24:44 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
hookdik74
Detroit, MI
40, joined Aug. 2012


Fuk all u btch made mutha f**kaz sht n on my city suburban pussie stay yal btch az xross 8mile cuz Detroit will eat u btchz alive.yal brng yal az to Detroit whn u buy n drugz n so do ya kidz

10/4/2012 3:58:12 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

calthropstu
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Quote from tyeki:
Compared to Chicago or NYC the place feels dead???.... I guess so, if your thinking "The good parts of NYC and Chicago" I know your not standing in the middle of the Cabrini Greens or Yonkers Projects with that thought.. I appreciate the power of choice and opinion every major city has it's good parts and bad parts.... If you don't like, you have the right idea.... Don't live there. I was merely commenting on the false statistics...


I tried to ask people some decent things about Detroit. I really did. I even tried to look for "tourist traps" within Detroit to go and visit online.

Compare NYC to Detroit and it's like comparing a nice juicy apple to a f**king raisin.

It was pretty much slim pickings. The list is about what I would expect from a city about a 10th its size. Even the decent restaurants were few and far between, the shopping looks extremely low end and what passes for fashion in Detroit seems to fail hard.

I read that a group representing Portland Oregon went on a tour throughout the country to see what makes great cities tick so they could plan future actions of their council accordingly.

I can't find the story it was in a paper publication and I don't have access to it right now but if memory serves correctly it went something like this:

"We have been to a lot of cities on this tour but we learned more from Detroit than any other city. The city is a living example of what not to do..."

It's not just me that thinks this either. Apparently 2/3 of Detroit's own population thought so as well and blatantly left. This btw is not even accounting for people recently born... so it's prolly more like 3/4 the population left but some were replaced by people being born.

This alone is fair indication the city blows goats chunks

10/4/2012 7:36:17 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

qualified66
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Detroit, MI
49, joined Jul. 2010


No you didnt, re read your title. If you wanted to know anything decent about Detroit,you should have asked, Where are the fun and good places to go in Detroit. The responds would have been different. Wasnt born here but have been in Detroit since I was 7yrs old. Never had any problems. Have two brothers and three sons, none been to jail nor had the police come to my house. Crime in California is way worst then Detroit. Its a show called Gangland, most of the gangs they talk about are from California. In fact,instead of getting our feedback on the subject,just come to Detroit and see for yourself.

10/4/2012 2:56:37 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
damarko5nmylife
Rochester, MI
38, joined Jun. 2011


Detroit is a bad place to live these days.. But detroit gets a bad rep because of the people that live here an also the media.. The news only reports the ugly of the city when I say city I mean detroit not the surrounding cities other areas of michigan has there issues to crimes break ins drug use but its only the enter city thats being reported in a negative light.. I live here an I know its bad but what do u expect when the people we vote in as leadership for our city doesnt care abt the people that has to live here.. If u dont give the people the tools to be able to be productive this is what happens.. Its just not here this is going on across the whole country. We as citizens have to do our part also just because the problems that happen in detroit doesnt effect some people directly at some point if it keep going on

the way that it is now it will take its toal on everyone that live in detroit an the surrounding areas..we will become prisoners in our own homes because its happening now. Detroit can be an was a beautiful place at one time just because our leadership has failed us lets not give up on what made detroit the city that everyone wanted to come to..to try to make a better living for theirself an their families..the people! We are all we got lets no give the rest of the country the fuel to keep the fire burning by giving up on the people that built the city an also the few that want to try to tear it down..cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.

10/4/2012 4:14:46 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

calthropstu
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Quote from qualified66:
No you didnt, re read your title. If you wanted to know anything decent about Detroit,you should have asked, Where are the fun and good places to go in Detroit. The responds would have been different. Wasnt born here but have been in Detroit since I was 7yrs old. Never had any problems. Have two brothers and three sons, none been to jail nor had the police come to my house. Crime in California is way worst then Detroit. Its a show called Gangland, most of the gangs they talk about are from California. In fact,instead of getting our feedback on the subject,just come to Detroit and see for yourself.


I did ask...

And I have been. Though it was only once and not for very long.

I have asked dozens and dozens of people about Detroit. I live 15 miles away from Detroit it's not hard to ask people about it. Everyone says there's not much there to go see.I've heard maybe 5 places that sound like I would want to go. Compared to the hundreds of fantastic places I saw in NY.

As for California having higher crime: the stats say otherwise.

Taking a look at the national crime statistics and Detroit is #1 per capita.

Taking a look at national school district information and Detroit is at the bottom of the barrel.

And from what I saw the whole city is looking run down with the streets in many areas looking decidedly ragged.

I wanted the input of people on here because I wanted to know what people living inside the city think. People that have lived in MI their whole lives. I've only been here for less than 2 years. I've seen some great places in MI but I can't say Detroit is one of them.

10/4/2012 10:39:07 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

qualified66
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Detroit, MI
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Oh well,there are more then 5 places to go in Detroit. Not sure of what or where you went. One of the reasons Detroit get a bad rep is due to the fact, that back in the day, this place was known for having hit men. The media have a way of making people see things they way they want it to be seen. Alot of famous people love Detroit,but do you hear about that ..NO! Not going to try and convince you otherwise. Im orginally from Louisiana and they still saying the KKK are there..hmm I never came across one. So dont believe everything you hear. Also,alot of out of towner comes here and commit crimes and go back home,didnt know that did you? But,I love Detroit (& Louisiana) no matter what other have to say bad about it.

10/5/2012 8:17:29 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
coreyou
Belleville, MI
46, joined Jul. 2012


Its the worst dump I ever seen. No money no ambulance. Fire trucks cops. Its the worst I ever seen

10/5/2012 10:26:17 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

sky_pilot42
Lexington, MI
61, joined Jun. 2012


Detroit is a funky old town with more than it's share of problems and lots of gems waiting to be discovered...definitely not for wimps or white bread lovers but worth the effort to explore.

10/6/2012 1:03:04 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

tyeki
Detroit, MI
37, joined Mar. 2011


Quote from sky_pilot42:
Detroit is a funky old town with more than it's share of problems and lots of gems waiting to be discovered...definitely not for wimps or white bread lovers but worth the effort to explore.


I Agree 100%, A funky old town... with our share of problems.... But what lies beneath all of the bad is, A diamond in the rough! This city has so much to offer depending upon your interests (please beware of the shopping, Troy is the greatest)... This is not a city for wimps!!

But sorry to inform you, a lot of Caucasian people are taking some of this city back!! Its a neighborhood called "COMMON WEALTH DISTRICT" right in the heart of the ghetto, Wayne State Area and Downtown as well.... I remember these places were crack paradise, now its mostly white homeowners/occupants.

They walk at night with their children and pets, shop etc, they are NOT afraid, they live amongst all the good and the bad in this city... You want to know why they're moving back to Detroit???? BECAUSE THEY AIN'T NO WIMPS, and they care!!! it's just as much their city as mines...... Property is cheap, for immaculate homes, that just needed a little TLC, and they bought'em right up!!!!!!

If you haven't spent much time here, you can't judge... and if you let this city intimidate you, along with the media's help... you're a WIMP!!!

<----- and this emoticon probably scares you too... LMAO.

10/6/2012 3:54:04 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
richjay1122
Detroit, MI
35, joined Jun. 2012


Well I'll tell u this its an urban city and with every urban city there's going to b crime. yes its seems and reported as a mess hall but u have to respect your suroundings. would u go to a lions den and expect not to be attacked if u were wearing a piece of meat around your neck ? I've been in Detroit 33yrs and never had a problem .. but the real problem lies with the leadership.. if u can change that u can get the change everyone seeks and to all the racist on here talkin like Blk ppl are animals your r half the problem as well

10/6/2012 11:27:48 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
damarko5nmylife
Rochester, MI
38, joined Jun. 2011


Quote from damarko5nmylife:
Detroit is a bad place to live these days.. But detroit gets a bad rep because of the people that live here an also the media.. The news only reports the ugly of the city when I say city I mean detroit not the surrounding cities other areas of michigan has there issues too crimes break ins drug use but its only the enter city thats being reported in a negative light.. I live here an I know its bad but what do u expect when the people we vote in as leadership for our city doesnt care abt the people that has to live here.. If u dont give the people the tools to be able to be productive this is what happens.. Its just not here this is going on across the whole country. We as citizens have to do our part also just because the problems that happen in detroit doesnt effect some people directly at some point if it keep going on

the way that it is now it will take its toll on everyone that live in detroit an the surrounding areas..we will become prisoners in our own homes because its happening now. Detroit can be an was a beautiful place at one time just because our leadership has failed us lets not give up on what made detroit the city that everyone wanted to come to..to try to make a better living for theirself an their families..the people! We are all we got lets no give the rest of the country the fuel to keep the fire burning by giving up on the people that built the city an also the few that want to try to tear it down..cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.


10/7/2012 1:42:59 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

qualified66
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,113)
Detroit, MI
49, joined Jul. 2010


Quote from tyeki:
I Agree 100%, A funky old town... with our share of problems.... But what lies beneath all of the bad is, A diamond in the rough! This city has so much to offer depending upon your interests (please beware of the shopping, Troy is the greatest)... This is not a city for wimps!!

But sorry to inform you, a lot of Caucasian people are taking some of this city back!! Its a neighborhood called "COMMON WEALTH DISTRICT" right in the heart of the ghetto, Wayne State Area and Downtown as well.... I remember these places were crack paradise, now its mostly white homeowners/occupants.

They walk at night with their children and pets, shop etc, they are NOT afraid, they live amongst all the good and the bad in this city... You want to know why they're moving back to Detroit???? BECAUSE THEY AIN'T NO WIMPS, and they care!!! it's just as much their city as mines...... Property is cheap, for immaculate homes, that just needed a little TLC, and they bought'em right up!!!!!!

If you haven't spent much time here, you can't judge... and if you let this city intimidate you, along with the media's help... you're a WIMP!!!

<----- and this emoticon probably scares you too... LMAO.


10/7/2012 3:37:56 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
timetogolf
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,944)
Chesaning, MI
61, joined Dec. 2007


there are so many little areas of Detroit that are just so awesome......sure the city has its problems, and the crime is always an issue......but I have lived near Flint and in Saginaw, and Detroit at least has a handle on what needs to be done to make the city great again!

the Greektown area is fun, and the theatre district rocks, and going to Comerica or Ford Field for a game is just a great experience.

Detroit Rocks!

10/7/2012 5:22:24 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

mikaylaleigh40c
Holt, MI
20, joined Sep. 2012


Only some areas of Detroit are bad. It's more of a stereotypical kind of thing.

10/9/2012 10:08:15 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

qualified66
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Detroit, MI
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Quote from mikaylaleigh40c:
Only some areas of Detroit are bad. It's more of a stereotypical kind of thing.


10/10/2012 3:30:05 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

calthropstu
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Was watching the news last night.

Apparently 40% of the city has intentions of leaving within the next 5 years. If accurate this will make Detroit less than 500,000 which will make it smaller than Albuquerque...

SAD

10/10/2012 7:42:17 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
timetogolf
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Chesaning, MI
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since you seem to like to bash Detroit so much, why don't you help by packing your bags and moving to the Bronx???? i bet you'll love it there. Enjoy the $$$$$ it will cost to purchase a happy meal!

10/10/2012 12:04:34 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

calthropstu
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I don't hate michigan... at least not like I hated SC and NM. Detroit just seems so horrible. I see statistic after statistic which marks it as the worst city in the country. It is really really sad to see, and the people are doing NOTHING about it.

In the same news cast, there was a woman who had someone just simply move into her house while she was away AND SHE COULD DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. THE COPS DID NOTHING.

Then someone from the city comes on and says they are going to start ragging on the police officers because they aren't writing enough tickets! AFTER THEY FIRE A HUGE PORTION OF THE POLICE OFFICERS.

The bronx might be expensive, but I can guarantee you it's a much better place to live than Detroit. According to the statistics, ANY place in the US is better to live than Detroit.

I originally started this thread not knowing too much about it, but after doing research into the city and trying to find attractions and other cool stuff about the city and turning up near diddly squat and seeing the stuff the news puts out and reviewing the stats...


It is really really sad.

10/15/2012 2:15:49 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

qualified66
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Detroit, MI
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Quote from calthropstu:
I don't hate michigan... at least not like I hated SC and NM. Detroit just seems so horrible. I see statistic after statistic which marks it as the worst city in the country. It is really really sad to see, and the people are doing NOTHING about it.

In the same news cast, there was a woman who had someone just simply move into her house while she was away AND SHE COULD DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. THE COPS DID NOTHING.

Then someone from the city comes on and says they are going to start ragging on the police officers because they aren't writing enough tickets! AFTER THEY FIRE A HUGE PORTION OF THE POLICE OFFICERS.

The bronx might be expensive, but I can guarantee you it's a much better place to live than Detroit. According to the statistics, ANY place in the US is better to live than Detroit.

I originally started this thread not knowing too much about it, but after doing research into the city and trying to find attractions and other cool stuff about the city and turning up near diddly squat and seeing the stuff the news puts out and reviewing the stats...


It is really really sad.
Do you really believe in that statistic? You do know they are guessing right. Detroit has always been put down for years,but you never hear about the good things about it. And when something good do happens they always want to bring up some bad news from years ago. Not sure why you made this thread but you dont seem to like the answers you are getting. Here's a suggestion: Since you trust the statistic so much..Just dont come to Detroit and let go.

10/15/2012 4:45:27 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

fabnflashy
Detroit, MI
28, joined Oct. 2012


I can't let ppl just dog my city like it's nth. It's not just people in the city that makes it bad. It's also those that bring their crap to the city. Dumping their trash and their dead bodies in Detroit so the citizens can take the fall for it. Don't get me wrong it ain't the best place to live if you can't handle it. But this city has made ppl like myself a survivor, and I wouldn't change where I live at for the world.

Its funny how when things are good everybody is,"oh I'm from Detroit". But the first sign of trouble everybody run. And abandon my city like its nth.

10/15/2012 7:10:11 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
m4dreflux
Taylor, MI
26, joined Apr. 2012


I spent some good time in the city, including Highland Park when I was with my ex. Nothing happened to me, but usually people were staring me down, and it made me feel pretty unsettled. Do bad things happen in the city? Well I've heard stories, like this guy who got beaten nearly to death by a bunch of people in a coney island, and dragged outside bleeding all over the place. So I suppose so. Just keep to yourself, don't stare people down, don't say the wrong thing, and you'll be okay.

But on the flip side, there's good to be found in the city if you look for it. Not everyone that lives there is bad. Most of the Motown artists in the 60s grew up in Detroit, and Michael Jackson started his career there. America may have been founded on the east coast, but the history of the city shaped American culture in the early 20th century. So this city deserves much more respect than it's given.

10/15/2012 8:40:17 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

tyeki
Detroit, MI
37, joined Mar. 2011


Quote from m4dreflux:
I spent some good time in the city, including Highland Park when I was with my ex. Nothing happened to me, but usually people were staring me down, and it made me feel pretty unsettled. Do bad things happen in the city? Well I've heard stories, like this guy who got beaten nearly to death by a bunch of people in a coney island, and dragged outside bleeding all over the place. So I suppose so. Just keep to yourself, don't stare people down, don't say the wrong thing, and you'll be okay.

But on the flip side, there's good to be found in the city if you look for it. Not everyone that lives there is bad. Most of the Motown artists in the 60s grew up in Detroit, and Michael Jackson started his career there. America may have been founded on the east coast, but the history of the city shaped American culture in the early 20th century. So this city deserves much more respect than it's given.


I love this

10/15/2012 11:24:00 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
johng85
Canton, MI
30, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from calthropstu:
I don't hate michigan... at least not like I hated SC and NM. Detroit just seems so horrible. I see statistic after statistic which marks it as the worst city in the country. It is really really sad to see, and the people are doing NOTHING about it.

In the same news cast, there was a woman who had someone just simply move into her house while she was away AND SHE COULD DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. THE COPS DID NOTHING.

Then someone from the city comes on and says they are going to start ragging on the police officers because they aren't writing enough tickets! AFTER THEY FIRE A HUGE PORTION OF THE POLICE OFFICERS.

The bronx might be expensive, but I can guarantee you it's a much better place to live than Detroit. According to the statistics, ANY place in the US is better to live than Detroit.

I originally started this thread not knowing too much about it, but after doing research into the city and trying to find attractions and other cool stuff about the city and turning up near diddly squat and seeing the stuff the news puts out and reviewing the stats...


It is really really sad.



Keep on hating on Detroit you down syndrome looking Hitler. I know people who lived in parts of Detroit and never had to lock their doors and had great experiences. Then moved to the suburbs and rich white kids broke in and stole/ransacked their house.. There are good and bad parts in every state/city.. Ive had more bad experiences in Inkster then Ive ever had in Detroit

10/15/2012 11:39:17 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

wezzo
Detroit, MI
29, joined Aug. 2012


I been in the d all my life an its not as bad as people try 2 make it a lot of people bring they crap here an we take the fall 4 it and every who think detroit is the worst palce ever they not even from the d they r from (redford,wayne,ect)

10/16/2012 2:24:56 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
baby_loomis
Muskegon, MI
23, joined Sep. 2011


Nope.
I take the greyhound there from Muskegon at least once a month.
What I do there, though...

10/16/2012 3:03:18 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

pdws313
Detroit, MI
34, joined Oct. 2012


Yes it is I'm a born and raised westsider 6 and greenfield in the past 4 years I've lost six close friends my mom car was stolen twice I stay in Brownstown now I don't even like to visit anymore sad

10/16/2012 3:07:39 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
johng85
Canton, MI
30, joined Apr. 2012


Apologize for the affront. I just hate when people drive through a few times or read/hear about it and base their opinions off that ^

10/16/2012 4:27:31 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

qualified66
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Detroit, MI
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Quote from johng85:
Apologize for the affront. I just hate when people drive through a few times or read/hear about it and base their opinions off that ^


10/16/2012 7:57:34 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

smarterthanaver
Detroit, MI
27, joined Aug. 2012


It's not juz detroiters. People come from the suburbs and commit crimes and go rite back to there happy lol lives. But either which way I'm on the first train smoking. Dueces.

10/16/2012 8:28:20 AM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

calthropstu
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Quote from fabnflashy:
I can't let ppl just dog my city like it's nth. It's not just people in the city that makes it bad. It's also those that bring their crap to the city. Dumping their trash and their dead bodies in Detroit so the citizens can take the fall for it. Don't get me wrong it ain't the best place to live if you can't handle it. But this city has made ppl like myself a survivor, and I wouldn't change where I live at for the world.

Its funny how when things are good everybody is,"oh I'm from Detroit". But the first sign of trouble everybody run. And abandon my city like its nth.



Detroit is the only major metropolis LOSING in population. Take a look at the largest 50 cities in the country and every last one is gaining in population. Look at detroit and it has lost about 2/3 of its population in the last 40 years. That says more than enough. Now the city is going bankrupt because it has become bloated in physical size and is built to have 2 million people and now holds less than 750,000. This means there's a crap ton of empty buildings and streets and various other things to maintain that basically no one is paying for.

With no money for maintenance the city slowly crumbles. Detroit is literally dieing and has been for a long time and nobody seems able to do anything about it. Maybe they SHOULD let Detroit go bankrupt and become a ghost town.

10/16/2012 6:32:30 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  
dominicvincenzo
Westland, MI
28, joined Oct. 2012


Detroit was 1 of 6 Cities that generated 56% of Americas gross income. Detroit generated 36% of that 56%. Detroit IS the largest industrial City in America. Was largest in the world. I love motor city. Houdini was from the D, No Town, Emmanuel Steward who trained more Boxing champions in the world. Most people don't know Mayweather is from G.Rapids. I can go on forever. I love this States history. Most of all I love Detroit. PEACE!

10/16/2012 7:13:16 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

tyeki
Detroit, MI
37, joined Mar. 2011


Quote from baby_loomis:
Nope.
I take the greyhound there from Muskegon at least once a month.
What I do there, though...




Ahaaaaaaaadddd!!! that was funny.



[Edited 10/16/2012 7:16:24 PM ]

10/16/2012 7:32:59 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

tyeki
Detroit, MI
37, joined Mar. 2011


Quote from calthropstu:
Detroit is the only major metropolis LOSING in population. Take a look at the largest 50 cities in the country and every last one is gaining in population. Look at detroit and it has lost about 2/3 of its population in the last 40 years. That says more than enough. Now the city is going bankrupt because it has become bloated in physical size and is built to have 2 million people and now holds less than 750,000. This means there's a crap ton of empty buildings and streets and various other things to maintain that basically no one is paying for.

With no money for maintenance the city slowly crumbles. Detroit is literally dieing and has been for a long time and nobody seems able to do anything about it. Maybe they SHOULD let Detroit go bankrupt and become a ghost town.


But in the history of CITIES do you think this is the first time this has happened? Uhhhhhh NO, at one point Harlem, NY was a ghost town until Magic Johnson came in and bought up all the vacant property and changed them into very expensive brownstones and Starbucks. All it would take is for someone to come in and take a chance and invest in this city. And to my acknowledgements Magic Johnson has already started investing in this city by buying the old State Fair property.

My point is it's ghost towns in many other states as well, such as Ohio, maybe not a Metropolis city, but still took a huge hit like Detroit. When they took thousands of manufacturing jobs away, when this is a manufacturing CITY, that is when a large part of the population left, for work. Not because they hated this city.

I look at it like this, it could happen to "THE BEST OF US". Yep even us Detroiter's. And you wanna know what? WE STILL HERE AND WE'RE NOT GOING NO WHERE TIL' THEY CUT OFF THE LAST LIGHT!!!! I MY CITY!!!!



[Edited 10/16/2012 7:34:31 PM ]

10/16/2012 7:39:59 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

volleyballguy73
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Hartland, MI
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Quote from tyeki:
But in the history of CITIES do you think this is the first time this has happened? Uhhhhhh NO, at one point Harlem, NY was a ghost town until Magic Johnson came in and bought up all the vacant property and changed them into very expensive brownstones and Starbucks. All it would take is for someone to come in and take a chance and invest in this city. And to my acknowledgements Magic Johnson has already started investing in this city by buying the old State Fair property.

My point is it's ghost towns in many other states as well, such as Ohio, maybe not a Metropolis city, but still took a huge hit like Detroit. When they took thousands of manufacturing jobs away, when this is a manufacturing CITY, that is when a large part of the population left, for work. Not because they hated this city.

I look at it like this, it could happen to "THE BEST OF US". Yep even us Detroiter's. And you wanna know what? WE STILL HERE AND WE'RE NOT GOING NO WHERE TIL' THEY CUT OFF THE LAST LIGHT!!!! I MY CITY!!!!


Illitch Holdings (Mike and Marion Illitch and family (owners of the Red Wings and Tigers, for those who don't know)) has invested millions in the city. They just aren't getting much help with it. You'd think that the Ford family would be interested in doing more

10/16/2012 7:55:18 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

313deno
Detroit, MI
24, joined Aug. 2012


He'll Naw we cool lol I love my city

10/16/2012 8:07:08 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

jcoppa
Highland Park, MI
45, joined Aug. 2012


I am not from Detroit, I have been in the Metro Detroit Area for 4 years now. I have lived in LA for 15 yrs and Las Vegas for 3 yrs. I grew up in the South, it's not Detroit thats bad, it's bad people with terrible character defects, if people with a Good Moral Fiber were elected into public office, people with a Good Moral Fiber ran the large businesses, people with a Good Moral Fiber were teaching in the schools, then Detroit would be a wonderful place. These problems begin at the top and rolls and permeates throughout the State of Michgan. I have come to find out that there are good people here but they get used abused and taken advangtage of.

10/16/2012 8:23:19 PM Is Detroit really as bad as it seems?  

rshrum88
Lincoln Park, MI
22, joined Jun. 2011


Detroit isnt really all that bad people over exaggerate how "horrible" it is.