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2/26/2015 4:36:49 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
norwegianwood64
Over 2,000 Posts (3,538)
Huntsville, AL
51, joined Jul. 2014


The status positions in a wolf pack are what keep the pack functioning in hunting and raising pups. If all the members wanted to be alphas, they would all break away and try to survive on their own...probably adopting cats for company, seeing a shrink weekly, and wolfing down prozac.

This is similar to what feminism has done to dating. On the surface, equal pay, careers, and independence is a good thing but alot of women took it farther and turned into alphas themselves, with alot of them even starting to hate the alpha male. What women need to realize is that even a wolf pack has an alpha female but she even has to obey the alpha male.

Until we get back to the wolf pack standards, the world will continue to be a bunch of lonely people howling at the moon in despair.

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2/26/2015 4:40:48 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

m10420
Over 1,000 Posts (1,332)
Big Lake, AK
38, joined Mar. 2014


This is stupid on so many levels

Oh yeah, FIRST!!



[Edited 2/26/2015 4:41:58 PM ]

2/26/2015 4:42:38 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

esmeraldar
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,197)
Toms River, NJ
66, joined Jan. 2009


I'm not an alpha female but I do tend to be a lone wolf. I believe in equal rights for women and that probably makes me a feminist. I don't hate men. I don't hate other women. I tend to do my own thing.

I don't see how your post makes any sense. Feminism made dating obsolete? I don't think so.

I think if anything made dating obsolete it's selfishness. People want instant gratification and relationships are disposable. It's no wonder that some of us wind up being Lone Wolves.

2/26/2015 4:44:46 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

Elisa78
GhurianAlmería
Spain
36, joined Jan. 2015


Did been drinking lately.

2/26/2015 4:45:26 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

b2cold
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,159)
Bark River, MI
22, joined Mar. 2014


So your in a wolf pack?

2/26/2015 4:52:44 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

settee_m
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,925)
Dallas, TX
61, joined Feb. 2013


Oh, yeah? Well, didja know the lioness is the one who brings home the bacon?



I'm guessing there are a few alpha females you've run across, and they don't suit you. Give them a wide berth and they'll leave you be.

Trying to change someone else's character is almost always a fail.

2/26/2015 4:55:51 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

bumblebee7
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (45,738)
Fort Payne, AL
59, joined Apr. 2011


It sounds like you belong to the mouse pack. But you did say with your other profile....you wanted to play mangina today.

2/26/2015 5:04:58 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

txrose64
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,107)
Pearland, TX
51, joined Jan. 2013


she obeys him if he's indeed the alpha male and worthy of that title, if he's not..he'll be left on the trail wounded to die.

2/26/2015 5:09:07 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

urealysucklol
Over 2,000 Posts (2,412)
San Benito, TX
43, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from esmeraldar:
I'm not an alpha female but I do tend to be a lone wolf. I believe in equal rights for women and that probably makes me a feminist. I don't hate men. I don't hate other women. I tend to do my own thing.

I don't see how your post makes any sense. Feminism made dating obsolete? I don't think so.

I think if anything made dating obsolete it's selfishness. People want instant gratification and relationships are disposable. It's no wonder that some of us wind up being Lone Wolves.
then why do women wanna be wined n dined but yet they don't wanna put out?

2/26/2015 5:10:01 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

urealysucklol
Over 2,000 Posts (2,412)
San Benito, TX
43, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from txrose64:
she obeys him if he's indeed the alpha male and worthy of that title, if he's not..he'll be left on the trail wounded to die.


2/26/2015 5:24:42 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

ol39er
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,238)
Cicero, IL
42, joined Jul. 2011


Quote from esmeraldar:


I think if anything made dating obsolete it's selfishness. People want instant gratification and relationships are disposable. It's no wonder that some of us wind up being Lone Wolves.


This is well-put and TRUE. I would also add entitled, unrealistic, egotistical, fickle, and ungrateful to the mix.

2/26/2015 5:27:41 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

soulflight
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,940)
Dayton, OH
53, joined Apr. 2014


If it's obsolete...why are people still doing it?

2/26/2015 5:28:23 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

Champaree
Australian Capital
Australia
84, joined Jan. 2015


Quote from bumblebee7:
It sounds like you belong to the mouse pack. But you did say with your other profile....you wanted to play mangina today.


You think it is him??????

2/26/2015 7:54:29 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

txrose64
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,107)
Pearland, TX
51, joined Jan. 2013


Quote from urealysucklol:


caught that did you?

2/26/2015 8:14:50 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

browneyz
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (23,089)
San Diego, CA
58, joined Jan. 2008


Dating is not obsolete for the young. Dating does not fit the Boomers life style of kids, jobs,adult

responsibilities. Most of us want the casualness of a relationship. We want adult companionship and sex.

So we move from person to person looking for our need for intimacy. Dating becomes frustrating for the mature

who are searching for more than another thrill. Jmo

2/26/2015 8:19:24 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
boombap_808
Los Angeles, CA
40, joined Jan. 2015


Good thing were not wolves, ay?

2/26/2015 8:24:31 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

mustangwriter
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (18,532)
Boerne, TX
54, joined Nov. 2009


Heck, I'm obsolete.

2/26/2015 8:37:41 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

playingindirt
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,360)
Eugene, OR
59, joined Mar. 2014


stop trying to tell women what they're supposed to be like.

she'll be happy to pay attention and listen if you're
not too busy trying to tell her how you think she's supposed to be.

2/26/2015 8:39:38 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
wench_doctor789
Over 1,000 Posts (1,612)
Atlanta, GA
38, joined Nov. 2014


Dating and Netscape will make a comeback, I just know it

2/26/2015 8:46:05 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

lovethelake17
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (32,709)
Henderson, NV
56, joined May. 2009


lol, you might want to learn a little more about wolf packs and behaviors. It's an alpha pair--a mated pair, an equal partnership alpha mated pair. Not a male alpha with the rest constantly vying for supremacy.

They are usually related to each other, as in the rest of the pack are the pair's offspring.



[Edited 2/26/2015 8:46:33 PM ]

2/26/2015 8:50:13 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

kartusch
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,479)
Logan, UT
40, joined May. 2014


A guy asked me if I was interested in meeting.

I said I was interested in a date.

He said nope. Meeting. He said he's seen the guys on this site and knows he has no competition....

I don't know why he was checking out guys in the first place however I now think he was referring to OP especially

2/26/2015 9:03:10 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

dejavugirl
Miami, FL
40, joined Feb. 2013


Obsolete? What the...
It will become obsolete till the moment human beings disappear from earth.

2/26/2015 9:12:29 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

hurryme
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,218)
Bloomingdale, GA
50, joined Mar. 2011


OP is one of the conspiracy theorists and believes the Jews are the reason for all our problems...Loser is #1 and how can you be any kind of happy with his mentality?

2/26/2015 9:17:25 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
driver406
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (38,610)
Saint Paul, MN
63, joined Oct. 2009


I agree OP but I'll bet the man hating feminists have your hide. They'll make ISIS look like sissies.

2/26/2015 9:24:06 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

helmholtzwatson
Over 2,000 Posts (3,193)
Raleigh, NC
49, joined Jun. 2014


You know wolves hunt together right?

And Alphas are for protection.

That fits my dating world just fine.

2/26/2015 9:25:50 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

playingindirt
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,360)
Eugene, OR
59, joined Mar. 2014


where are all these feminists some men speak of? I don't know any women like that. like myself all the women i know like their men being men.

are men intimated by them or something? It's like some
guys just want to blame women for their woes.
I probably just don't get it.

2/26/2015 9:27:05 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

helmholtzwatson
Over 2,000 Posts (3,193)
Raleigh, NC
49, joined Jun. 2014


Yep...broken folks.

2/26/2015 9:28:29 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

grouchy_muffin
Over 1,000 Posts (1,110)
Sichuan
China
43, joined Nov. 2014


Quote from soulflight:
If it's obsolete...why are people still doing it?


Exactly. In my experience it's not obsolete at all.

2/26/2015 9:33:04 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

lovethelake17
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (32,709)
Henderson, NV
56, joined May. 2009


Quote from helmholtzwatson:
You know wolves hunt together right?

And Alphas are for protection.

That fits my dating world just fine.


He apparently knows very little about wolves. You know, if they were human, the female wolf would be a feminist. Though in fact, I don't think any animals have socially prescribed roles based solely on gender.

2/26/2015 9:36:36 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

helmholtzwatson
Over 2,000 Posts (3,193)
Raleigh, NC
49, joined Jun. 2014


Pretty sure roosters do the crowin'

2/26/2015 9:45:03 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

bruce_2014
Over 2,000 Posts (3,852)
Dothan, AL
59, joined Jan. 2014


It bears mentioning that many feminists hate this. They are focused on physical power, and do not see the exchange in this. If you try any of this with certain women, they are not going to react well. So test the waters before you jump in. Try support moves such as touching her back when you are leading her somewhere or showing her something first. If she moves into your touch and closer to your body, you can go further.

Another move to try is to touch her face and turn it towards you for a kiss. If she likes this, slide your hand to wrap an arm around her shoulder, and pull her towards you. Kiss her harder when you do. See if you can get away with making it hurt a little.

It is worth the risks because, for the feminine woman, being held is so important that if it is omitted, something big is missing. Hold your woman so that she knows that you are a man, and that you care. Hold her around her waist. Hold her around her body, with her arms under yours. Hold her by the legs. Hold her by her hair if she’s cool. Just hold her.

2/26/2015 9:46:41 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

grouchy_muffin
Over 1,000 Posts (1,110)
Sichuan
China
43, joined Nov. 2014


^^^ Who posted above me?

2/26/2015 9:49:11 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

a4umposter
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,596)
San Antonio, TX
47, joined Dec. 2014


I just see helmholtzwatson. Can you see him?

2/26/2015 9:50:45 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

lovethelake17
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (32,709)
Henderson, NV
56, joined May. 2009


Quote from helmholtzwatson:
Pretty sure roosters do the crowin'


Yeah, those dang noisy, self-aggrandizing, self-important, struttin' roosters...

2/26/2015 9:51:15 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

grouchy_muffin
Over 1,000 Posts (1,110)
Sichuan
China
43, joined Nov. 2014


No, he blocked me.



Kidding. . There was a blank as the last poster before I posted. I can see Grey.



[Edited 2/26/2015 9:51:38 PM ]

2/26/2015 9:52:55 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

a4umposter
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,596)
San Antonio, TX
47, joined Dec. 2014


Ok. I don't know who the other could be, as I can't see him or her either.

2/26/2015 9:53:55 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
amusicluvr
Over 4,000 Posts! (7,273)
Salem, OR
62, joined Nov. 2013


Wolves nearly went extinct recently, and only lots of help from humans saved them. Left to their own devices, the Alpha male led wolf packs would have followed the Allosaurus onto the dung heap of extinction.

2/26/2015 9:55:37 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

audlove515
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (11,252)
Jasper, IN
26, joined May. 2011


I'm just gonna leave this here....


obsolete

[ ?äbs?'let ]

ADJECTIVE


1.no longer produced or used; out of date:

"the disposal of old and obsolete machinery"

synonyms: outdated · out of date · outmoded · old-fashioned · démodé ·


VERB


cause (a product or idea) to be or become obsolete by replacing it with something new:

"we're trying to stimulate the business by obsoleting last year's designs"

2/26/2015 9:56:29 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
sagepopper72
Over 1,000 Posts (1,444)
Globe, AZ
42, joined Aug. 2014


Quote from bruce_2014:
It bears mentioning that many feminists hate this. They are focused on physical power, and do not see the exchange in this. If you try any of this with certain women, they are not going to react well. So test the waters before you jump in. Try support moves such as touching her back when you are leading her somewhere or showing her something first. If she moves into your touch and closer to your body, you can go further.

Another move to try is to touch her face and turn it towards you for a kiss. If she likes this, slide your hand to wrap an arm around her shoulder, and pull her towards you. Kiss her harder when you do. See if you can get away with making it hurt a little.

It is worth the risks because, for the feminine woman, being held is so important that if it is omitted, something big is missing. Hold your woman so that she knows that you are a man, and that you care. Hold her around her waist. Hold her around her body, with her arms under yours. Hold her by the legs. Hold her by her hair if she’s cool. Just hold her.


"Making it hurt a little?" I'm cool with being held, but not hurt, and definitely not by my hair. I enjoy tenderness and gentle caressing. And no, I'm not a feminist.

2/26/2015 10:02:22 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

eyesofmedusa
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (29,681)
San Antonio, TX
50, joined Jun. 2012


Claiming Alpha status does not a Alpha make....

Alpha Females have always existed....they are not the creation.of being feminists..

Lordy...

2/26/2015 10:26:02 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

bruce_2014
Over 2,000 Posts (3,852)
Dothan, AL
59, joined Jan. 2014


Body language says more than words. In the language of sexual touch, holding expresses two things mainly. Those are ownership and support. When a man wraps himself around a woman in a way that restrains her somewhat, he indicates ownership of her or at least the situation. By extension, this can indicate that he is shielding her in a way.

Support touching is to “sweep her off her feet” in a way. She is no longer bearing her own weight or bearing the burden of her desire. He is releasing her. He lifts a part of her body towards himself to kiss, bite, or do whatever he wills with it. She does not have to bring her lips to his. He brings her lips to his.

2/26/2015 10:39:34 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

beverduster
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (52,627)
La Feria, TX
50, joined Apr. 2008


op you was warned not to drop the soap in the shower

2/26/2015 10:57:07 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

wickedrider
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (26,027)
Madison, WI
95, joined Mar. 2009


it's nice to be a monster out of folklore, and have no male trump cards or ego to get in the way of shortcut dominant style thinking to over-ride another's thoughts or decisions, because there is no need to feel superior, and just be what i am, and if i want to be seen, i'll make it so, but mostly just enjoy the shadows of nature and her surroundings, and not have to worry about any of this. the curiosity of others that wander near, make good company occasionally. no burden on the soul, no worries.

2/26/2015 11:07:08 PM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

godsbutterfly1
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (17,927)
Woodlyn, PA
60, joined Dec. 2010


Quote from grouchy_muffin:
^^^ Who posted above me?


Bruce_2014 posted above you.

2/27/2015 1:38:04 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

a4umposter
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,596)
San Antonio, TX
47, joined Dec. 2014


No wonder I can't see him either.

2/27/2015 1:48:33 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

ahleah4mriris
Over 2,000 Posts (2,633)
Fort Worth, TX
44, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from godsbutterfly1:
Bruce_2014 posted above you.



He's blocked so many of us already, his threads must surely be lacking of posters.


2/27/2015 2:03:23 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
norwegianwood64
Over 2,000 Posts (3,538)
Huntsville, AL
51, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from eyesofmedusa:
Claiming Alpha status does not a Alpha make....

Alpha Females have always existed....they are not the creation.of being feminists..

Lordy...


I admitted that alpha female wolves were part of the natural order of things but they also don't hate , b*tch at, bark at, cheat on, try to control, or argue with her alpha male partner. Feminism did not cause alpha females but it did cause loud, overbearing, pill poppers, drunks, cheaters, controlling, and selfish women who think they have diamond pussies and gold buttholes.

For all of you showing concern for my dating history....my opinion does not come from dating or being treated bad.....I don't even date beyond casually. My views come from obervations of my friends, tv ads, magazines, newspapers, books, tv shows, movies, etc. For the love of Christ, half the ads during the superbowl were man hating, men are idiots, men are useless type ads.........makes me want to puke.

2/27/2015 2:26:12 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

ahleah4mriris
Over 2,000 Posts (2,633)
Fort Worth, TX
44, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from norwegianwood64:
half the ads during the superbowl were man hating, men are idiots, men are useless type ads.........makes me want to puke.


I noticed that too. But all commercials are like that nowadays.

2/27/2015 2:59:58 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
norwegianwood64
Over 2,000 Posts (3,538)
Huntsville, AL
51, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from hurryme:
OP is one of the conspiracy theorists and believes the Jews are the reason for all our problems...Loser is #1 and how can you be any kind of happy with his mentality?


Your jew obsession is mind boggling to say the least. Either see a shrink or move to tel aviv.

2/27/2015 3:17:06 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

grneyesrme
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,577)
Sacramento, CA
47, joined Aug. 2013


The only thing that was in all that crap you typed that had to do with dating being obsolete is the word STANDARDS.

2/27/2015 3:43:33 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
norwegianwood64
Over 2,000 Posts (3,538)
Huntsville, AL
51, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from grneyesrme:
The only thing that was in all that crap you typed that had to do with dating being obsolete is the word STANDARDS.


I should have said alpha male dating is obsolete. Dating is still very common but it is usually between an alpha female and a mangina man.

A man would have to be a mangina to date the typical western woman in the first place because real men want nothing to do with them.That is not a knock towards women per se, it is more an observation in how feminism has changed woman's attitudes and behaviors. Actually, it works both ways because alot of women are not happy with how men have changed into metrosexual manginas either. What they refuse to understand though is that a man is forced to act that way if he wants to date a modern woman. John Wayne would be considered a misogynic brute that belongs in a cave in today's dating environment.

2/27/2015 5:46:19 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

grouchy_muffin
Over 1,000 Posts (1,110)
Sichuan
China
43, joined Nov. 2014


Quote from godsbutterfly1:
Bruce_2014 posted above you.



Yeah. That's the guy who emailed me out of the blue, said I was lying about living in China and that I'm pathetic for inventing a fake life. Then he blocked me before I could respond.

2/27/2015 7:18:20 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

Champaree
Australian Capital
Australia
84, joined Jan. 2015


Quote from a4umposter:
No wonder I can't see him either.

Yeah he blocked me also, I back blocked him also.

2/27/2015 7:19:01 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
miscbyproduct
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,955)
Isle Of Man
United Kingdom
18, joined Apr. 2012


i understand your rant
but i don't get the problem

who is making you operate that way?

you have the choice of doing it your way
so just do it

2/27/2015 7:35:23 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

helmholtzwatson
Over 2,000 Posts (3,193)
Raleigh, NC
49, joined Jun. 2014


Plenty of women prefer & appreciate a strong, confident, take-charge kind of man.


If you can't find these women...then you're doing it wrong.

2/27/2015 7:53:06 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

settee_m
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,925)
Dallas, TX
61, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from norwegianwood64:
I should have said alpha male dating is obsolete. Dating is still very common but it is usually between an alpha female and a mangina man.

A man would have to be a mangina to date the typical western woman in the first place because real men want nothing to do with them.That is not a knock towards women per se, it is more an observation in how feminism has changed woman's attitudes and behaviors. Actually, it works both ways because alot of women are not happy with how men have changed into metrosexual manginas either. What they refuse to understand though is that a man is forced to act that way if he wants to date a modern woman. John Wayne would be considered a misogynic brute that belongs in a cave in today's dating environment.


lol...I beg to differ.

My attitude as a feminist hasn't changed in over 40 years. I've never dated a metrosexual or what you are referring to as a mangina. I have zero interest in controlling, changing or dominating a man, nor do I want to be controlled, changed or dominated by a man.

AND this typical western woman is dating just fine, thank you very much.

I think your observations of other people's relationships is warped.

2/27/2015 8:09:19 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
norwegianwood64
Over 2,000 Posts (3,538)
Huntsville, AL
51, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from helmholtzwatson:
Plenty of women prefer & appreciate a strong, confident, take-charge kind of man.


If you can't find these women...then you're doing it wrong.


That is what they say but when you actually meet them, they try to start controlling the guy within 5 minutes. Hell, on POF, they start controlling before the first meet. Most of them would not meet unless I deleted my profile first. These women scream in horror at real men because real men do not tolerate that controlling behavior.

2/27/2015 8:16:04 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

technologist_1
Powell, OH
49, joined Dec. 2014


Nor,
Just curious

What has happened to you, to make you always expect the worst in relationships?

Not sure if you are him, but your wording reminds me of another poster; his name was Verat!


Nor,
IF you want a relationship, you have to stop seeing ALL women in such a bad light! It's like you are seeing things that ARE NOT there, which in turn ruins any chance at having a mate

2/27/2015 8:20:39 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  
norwegianwood64
Over 2,000 Posts (3,538)
Huntsville, AL
51, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from settee_m:
lol...I beg to differ.

My attitude as a feminist hasn't changed in over 40 years. I've never dated a metrosexual or what you are referring to as a mangina. I have zero interest in controlling, changing or dominating a man, nor do I want to be controlled, changed or dominated by a man.

AND this typical western woman is dating just fine, thank you very much.

I think your observations of other people's relationships is warped.


That is what most women say to me but they don't see the behavior in themselves until a real man sits down with them and actually points it out. On POF, I met many women but 3 in particular I sent home crying on the first coffee meet. These ladies appeared very reserved and sweet in their profiles and phone conversations but in real life, it only took 5 minutes face to face to see the subtle controlling behaviors. All 3 had the same complaints about dating too..."I only attract wusses". When I explained to them why real men were avoiding them....they broke down in tears. No one had ever explained it to them before like I did. One of them actually said she broke up with her last man because she caught him chatting with a girl. 2 minutes later, she admitted that she has over 100 male friends on her yahoo messenger. That raised a red flag you could see from space.

2/27/2015 8:25:12 AM Why Dating is Obsolete?  

helmholtzwatson
Over 2,000 Posts (3,193)
Raleigh, NC
49, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from norwegianwood64:
That is what they say but when you actually meet them, they try to start controlling the guy within 5 minutes. Hell, on POF, they start controlling before the first meet. Most of them would not meet unless I deleted my profile first. These women scream in horror at real men because real men do not tolerate that controlling behavior.



Never had that happen once...whether online or IRL.

Maybe it's your dating pool & not women in general.