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2/27/2015 5:08:48 PM Question for women  

genesisaz
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Avondale, AZ
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Do you find it hard being submissive in relationships??

I am somewhat submissive, but I find it so hard to completely submit to a man.
Just something in me won't let me. It drives my man crazy..

How do you feel?? Should you submit completely to your man??

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2/27/2015 5:11:47 PM Question for women  

jinxthejuvy11
Over 1,000 Posts (1,217)
Philadelphia, PA
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Live Long and Prosper!

2/27/2015 5:13:13 PM Question for women  

grneyesrme
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,603)
Sacramento, CA
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In a relationship, No. Although if they try to control me, submission is not what they will see.

2/27/2015 5:13:42 PM Question for women  

txrose64
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,203)
Pearland, TX
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when you say "submit" what do you mean?

2/27/2015 5:19:36 PM Question for women  

settee_m
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,990)
Dallas, TX
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Completely? No.

Maybe the word submit is getting a bad reputation. lol

What's wrong with yielding to your mate? What's wrong with being flexible enough to 'give in' occasionally, and not always have it your way.

That's what a partnership is all about.



[Edited 2/27/2015 5:20:21 PM ]

2/27/2015 5:22:41 PM Question for women  

balls_of_fire
Brooklyn, NY
34, joined Apr. 2014


Submit to me

2/27/2015 5:25:10 PM Question for women  

baldhead1va
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,318)
Richmond, VA
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Quote from balls_of_fire:
Submit to me

No offense... But black women ain't submitting to sh*t! Trust me, I knowwww...

2/27/2015 5:26:44 PM Question for women  
niterydah
Over 2,000 Posts (3,142)
Houston, TX
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..............theres a difference between submitting to something you enjoy .....than submitting to something you wont enjoy ......thats being a slave ....doing something against your will

2/27/2015 5:26:59 PM Question for women  

balls_of_fire
Brooklyn, NY
34, joined Apr. 2014


Quote from baldhead1va:
No offense... But black women ain't submitting to sh*t! Trust me, I knowwww...
Shes black and she already said she is submissive. It came out of her mouth. Stereotype much



[Edited 2/27/2015 5:27:41 PM ]

2/27/2015 5:31:06 PM Question for women  
niterydah
Over 2,000 Posts (3,142)
Houston, TX
44, joined Jan. 2013


.................with the right partner a submissive black woman will enjoy submitting to her man

2/27/2015 5:31:49 PM Question for women  

txrose64
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,203)
Pearland, TX
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if it's in a marriage I do "submit" to my husband in that I voluntarily follow his leadership.

like when presented with a "situation" like when his truck died, or other stuff I flat out say "You lead, I'll follow"

and let me tell you...that is a challenge for me, for the last 15 years and even the last 7 or so of my marriage I had to be "the man" the leader, head of household.

there's also some freedom in it as well...he's proven he's worthy, and I"m a Christian and that's a big deal for us..Biblical, submission to your husband is equal to submission to God.

(then I have that little voice in my head that's had way too much history, theology, etc that knows men wrote that, but I'm going with it in a traditional sense)

2/27/2015 5:35:19 PM Question for women  
get2knowuwell3
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,833)
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^^^ submits to my whip

2/27/2015 5:35:56 PM Question for women  

balls_of_fire
Brooklyn, NY
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2/27/2015 5:37:44 PM Question for women  

jlyinc
Over 2,000 Posts (2,674)
Chaska, MN
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I find it easy to submit in certain areas. I'm willing to compromise, but that doesn't always equate to submission.

2/27/2015 5:40:37 PM Question for women  

likescareses
Eugene, OR
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I'm not submissive never will be I'm not going to be any man's doormat

2/27/2015 5:44:12 PM Question for women  

whalemstrsback
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,459)
Corning, CA
57, joined Oct. 2014


Rose...

do you think the word submit, ever enters his mind while you are thinking those same thoughts?

2/27/2015 5:47:20 PM Question for women  

txrose64
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Pearland, TX
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not at all


Get2 you behave



[Edited 2/27/2015 5:47:59 PM ]

2/27/2015 5:48:05 PM Question for women  

whalemstrsback
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2/27/2015 5:52:51 PM Question for women  

playingindirt
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,432)
Eugene, OR
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i don't think anyone should be completely submissive to another person even in a relationship but if you want a man to be a man in order have that you can't be acting like you're the man. let him be a man and enjoy being a woman with him. trust him.

and have confidence in him.



[Edited 2/27/2015 5:54:58 PM ]

2/27/2015 5:54:22 PM Question for women  

soulflight
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Dayton, OH
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Submission sets me free and makes me feel stronger within myself which ultimately makes me stronger in all facets of my life. I choose to live it 24/7 and yes, sometimes it is a struggle but never one I do alone.

There are many levels, degrees and styles of submission...whether in daily living, business interractions, scene play, sexual fantasy or within a 24/7 partner agreement.

Setee is correct, it has been given a bad rap.

2/27/2015 5:58:50 PM Question for women  

bumblebee7
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Fort Payne, AL
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There's a difference between submitting and giving your love to.

now if you can't give your love...then your not ready to even try a relation.

People give their love to each other, there are certain vows expected in a relation or a marriage....you intertwine together by giving yourself to each other.

but that's not submitting.


But if you can't do this...then stay single forever.

you can't live in two separate bubbles and expect it be a relation.

2/27/2015 5:59:16 PM Question for women  

playingindirt
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,432)
Eugene, OR
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Quote from soulflight:
Submission sets me free and makes me feel stronger within myself which ultimately makes me stronger in all facets of my life.

I agree with this. Its how i feel.

2/27/2015 6:08:01 PM Question for women  

a4umposter
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,725)
San Antonio, TX
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Quote from txrose64:
when you say "submit" what do you mean?


2/27/2015 6:10:46 PM Question for women  

bumblebee7
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Fort Payne, AL
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Okay a question and don't take it wrong.

are you saying its easier to be submissive in that way...because it may how nature intended?

or that's its easier because in a sense he takes more the responsibility of leading, and the responsibility that goes with that...so this is leaning on in a sense, less to worry about...etc.

Which might explain how manly is attractive to women...as far as in this way.

2/27/2015 6:17:16 PM Question for women  

bumblebee7
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to bad the op, didn't elaborate and explain exactly what she meant.

and we could be seeing a generation difference here too.

Ones raised in a certain era....more good example in society, traditional values, less divorces.

Vs. the ones who started on in the Dr. Phil, more divorces, bad examples and porn era.

2/27/2015 6:20:11 PM Question for women  

norwegianwood64
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True submissives are usually born that way. The rest of them are submissive wannabes who watch 50 shades and all of a sudden decide that it looks like fun. It doesn't work that way.

2/27/2015 6:20:16 PM Question for women  

naturebiy
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Just in my personal experience. .

A lot of the single women I have encountered that are raising children and playinh both roles..

Especially if they have been playing mom and dad for a long time..

You have this weird masculinity struggle that goes on..

At least until the woman is comfortable with you and drops a few walls.

2/27/2015 6:20:46 PM Question for women  

txrose64
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Quote from soulflight:
Submission sets me free and makes me feel stronger within myself which ultimately makes me stronger in all facets of my life. I choose to live it 24/7 and yes, sometimes it is a struggle but never one I do alone.

There are many levels, degrees and styles of submission...whether in daily living, business interractions, scene play, sexual fantasy or within a 24/7 partner agreement.

Setee is correct, it has been given a bad rap.


well said

the type that's not the whole SMBD deal that's a perversion of the word in my opinion.

2/27/2015 6:25:09 PM Question for women  

soulflight
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Quote from norwegianwood64:
True submissives are usually born that way. The rest of them are submissive wannabes who watch 50 shades and all of a sudden decide that it looks like fun. It doesn't work that way.


This an inaccurate statement and unfairly judges all submissives to a single standard.

How and how deeply submission occurs within a relationship is always unique to that relationship. All of the same qualities of compatibility must be present in the relationship.

2/27/2015 6:25:53 PM Question for women  

settee_m
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Dallas, TX
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Quote from soulflight:
Submission sets me free and makes me feel stronger within myself which ultimately makes me stronger in all facets of my life.
....


Yielding doesn't make me feel stronger or weaker. I'm not empowered by it.

I do think it makes for a healthy, loving relationship to respect and trust my mate.

2/27/2015 6:33:14 PM Question for women  

soulflight
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,008)
Dayton, OH
53, joined Apr. 2014


Quote from settee_m:
Yielding doesn't make me feel stronger or weaker. I'm not empowered by it.

I do think it makes for a healthy, loving relationship to respect and trust my mate.


..and therein lies the difference, it is empowering to a submissive...

2/27/2015 6:35:59 PM Question for women  

josfsd06
Over 2,000 Posts (3,835)
Sioux Falls, SD
56, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from baldhead1va:
No offense... But black women ain't submitting to sh*t! Trust me, I knowwww...


Consider the bullshit card thrown. You don't knowww. You merely presume based on your experience.

2/27/2015 6:37:52 PM Question for women  

soulflight
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,008)
Dayton, OH
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Quote from txrose64:
well said

the type that's not the whole SMBD deal that's a perversion of the word in my opinion.


lol...well ya know...one person's perversion is another's pleasure.

vive la difference!

2/27/2015 6:41:08 PM Question for women  

txrose64
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,203)
Pearland, TX
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oh I didn't mean that derrogatory at all gal..

I'm a strictly to each their own when it comes to sexual matters.

I "get it" anyway you want it ...that's the way you NEED it.

2/27/2015 6:41:21 PM Question for women  
amusicluvr
Over 4,000 Posts! (7,338)
Salem, OR
62, joined Nov. 2013


No one should have to submit completely to anyone. Do not be with anyone who expects you to completely submit to them. It makes sense to defer to someone who has greater expertise than you, as they should defer to you when your expertise is greater than theirs. If your boyfriend is a certified auto mechanic, do what he tells you to do with regards to warming up your engine, or adding anti-freeze, or such. When it comes to what you do best-be it cooking, computer programming, or whatever-the BF should do as you tell him. Mutual respect for each other as people, and for each other's expertise, works best.

2/27/2015 6:43:46 PM Question for women  

soulflight
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,008)
Dayton, OH
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I understood your post Rose

2/27/2015 6:46:05 PM Question for women  

soulflight
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Dayton, OH
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Quote from amusicluvr:
No one should have to submit completely to anyone. Do not be with anyone who expects you to completely submit to them. It makes sense to defer to someone who has greater expertise than you, as they should defer to you when your expertise is greater than theirs. If your boyfriend is a certified auto mechanic, do what he tells you to do with regards to warming up your engine, or adding anti-freeze, or such. When it comes to what you do best-be it cooking, computer programming, or whatever-the BF should do as you tell him. Mutual respect for each other as people, and for each other's expertise, works best.


It is a dance for sure. Without mutual respect it is just another bad relationship.



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2/27/2015 6:48:00 PM Question for women  

settee_m
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I see the words, soul, they just don't resonate with me.

empowering

give (someone) the authority or power to do something.
"nobody was empowered to sign checks on her behalf"
synonyms: authorize, entitle, permit, allow, license, sanction, warrant, commission, delegate, qualify, enable, equip
"the act empowered police to arrest dissenters"
antonyms: forbid
make (someone) stronger and more confident, especially in controlling their life and claiming their rights.
"movements to empower the poor"
synonyms: emancipate, unshackle, set free, liberate
"movements to empower the poor"
antonyms: enslave


I don't see my yielding to him as empowering me, but empowering him. But I'd never be so arrogant as to 'delegate' responsibility for me to him.

I don't think any of those words ^^^^ have meaning in my relationships.

2/27/2015 6:48:31 PM Question for women  

plantkeeper
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,139)
Alexandria, VA
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Submit, that word makes me cringe....

2/27/2015 6:48:32 PM Question for women  

stanleyzee
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Submit ur application now

2/27/2015 6:53:02 PM Question for women  
miscbyproduct
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Isle Of Man
United Kingdom
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i'm in no frame of mind to sweat this sort of thing



ifn the complaining starts being more than the smiling... poof

so go with the flow or be gone

2/27/2015 6:53:33 PM Question for women  

soulflight
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And that's perfectly right for you Setee. No argument from me.

2/27/2015 6:57:23 PM Question for women  

settee_m
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By empowering, if by that you mean, you leave decisions like where you'll live, and how you'll live, where you'll go and what you'll see up to him, and that leaves you the time and energy to pursue other things/thoughts/interests, then maybe I understand your empowerment.

2/27/2015 6:58:08 PM Question for women  

settee_m
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Please don't take offense, soul, I'm just trying to understand.

2/27/2015 6:59:35 PM Question for women  

ms_savona
Waterdown, ON
56, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from genesisaz:
Do you find it hard being submissive in relationships??

I am somewhat submissive, but I find it so hard to completely submit to a man.
Just something in me won't let me. It drives my man crazy..

How do you feel?? Should you submit completely to your man??



What is that? **submissive** ?

2/27/2015 7:04:03 PM Question for women  

eyesofmedusa
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (29,897)
San Antonio, TX
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May I ask...does anyone know where the....submit thing came from?

Originally?

And I don't mean sexually...I.mean the wife submits to husband...

Woman submits to man in a relationship...

That one...



[Edited 2/27/2015 7:06:28 PM ]

2/27/2015 7:06:44 PM Question for women  
sinceresammy
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Dayton, OH
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Quote from ms_savona:
What is that? **submissive** ?


Ms Savona is my favorite lady on DH. I remember when she wrote long post about how terrible men were in her life. I guess all they wanted was her hot body, but they couldn't give her the emotional connection she so desperately needed. However she has matured into a practical sensible woman who realizes that life is a mirage and portrait dog painting is her thing.

Hooray for the day!

2/27/2015 7:07:45 PM Question for women  

soulflight
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Dayton, OH
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Not ofended at all

There is a misconception that by submission, one has no voice. That simply isn't the case but yes, I ultimately leave those decisions up to him.

My voice, my opinions, my needs and wants are all met. I have complete trust in his ability and committment to consider all of those things in decisions he makes for the union. I know the value of my contribution and never feel dismissed or ignored.

I feel honored, respected and appreciated. I am never distracted by a sense of who I am, who he is or what we are.

I can simply be myself..without pretense or any measure of confusion. Having that consistancy on the homefront is perfection...for me.



[Edited 2/27/2015 7:08:48 PM ]

2/27/2015 7:08:17 PM Question for women  
driver406
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Women are totally submissive in a relationship as long as the guy does WHAT he's told, WHEN he's told, WHY he's told, WHERE he's told and does it IMMEDIATELY and perfectly.

2/27/2015 7:11:03 PM Question for women  

soulflight
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I'm sorry that's been your experience driver.

2/27/2015 7:11:07 PM Question for women  
sinceresammy
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Quote from driver406:
Women are totally submissive in a relationship as long as the guy does WHAT he's told, WHEN he's told, WHY he's told, WHERE he's told and does it IMMEDIATELY and perfectly.


You are a total absolute moron!

2/27/2015 7:20:27 PM Question for women  
unique_woman
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Quote from driver406:
Women are totally submissive in a relationship as long as the guy does WHAT he's told, WHEN he's told, WHY he's told, WHERE he's told and does it IMMEDIATELY and perfectly.


I agree

2/27/2015 7:22:45 PM Question for women  

settee_m
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Quote from soulflight:
Not ofended at all

There is a misconception that by submission, one has no voice. That simply isn't the case but yes, I ultimately leave those decisions up to him.

My voice, my opinions, my needs and wants are all met. I have complete trust in his ability and committment to consider all of those things in decisions he makes for the union. I know the value of my contribution and never feel dismissed or ignored.

I feel honored, respected and appreciated. I am never distracted by a sense of who I am, who he is or what we are.

I can simply be myself..without pretense or any measure of confusion. Having that consistancy on the homefront is perfection...for me.


I agree with everything you just said.

It fits my almost 30 year marriage to a 'T'.

Neither of us ever used the word submit or empowered though. It was a natural transition from being single to being married.

Did we butt heads occasionally? You betcha! Did he always win? Nope.

But there were no doubts about who was the man in the family.

2/27/2015 7:30:57 PM Question for women  

soulflight
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,008)
Dayton, OH
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Well Setee, in my case, thereis a bit more kink involved.



2/27/2015 7:33:52 PM Question for women  
miscbyproduct
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Isle Of Man
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labels make all the difference

2/27/2015 7:35:44 PM Question for women  

reenie4
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,486)
Milwaukee, WI
57, joined Dec. 2007


For myself, a healthy relationship is based on equality and respect for each other, not power or control which is how I interpret the term "submissive"

2/27/2015 7:38:39 PM Question for women  

barrydalmi
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Baltimore, MD
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I wonder how many of the "compete with him at all times on all things" women are in happy, successful, long lasting relationships?

I think back to my two cousins on this one....

2/27/2015 7:40:01 PM Question for women  

josfsd06
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Sioux Falls, SD
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Quote from eyesofmedusa:
May I ask...does anyone know where the....submit thing came from?

Originally?

And I don't mean sexually...I.mean the wife submits to husband...

Woman submits to man in a relationship...

That one...


One of Paul's epistles. I'm just too lazy to look up which one. Corinthians comes to mind. But, like I said...lazy.

2/27/2015 7:42:46 PM Question for women  

plantkeeper
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Alexandria, VA
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Quote from barrydalmi:
I wonder how many of the "compete with him at all times on all things" women are in happy, successful, long lasting relationships?

I think back to my two cousins on this one....



I wonder how many women who submit are totally happy....by the way; women that are submissive do they work and contribute to the household?....

2/27/2015 7:45:31 PM Question for women  

soulflight
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Dayton, OH
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Quote from reenie4:
For myself, a healthy relationship is based on equality and respect for each other, not power or control which is how I interpret the term "submissive"


It is an equal exchange of power. A submissive cannot be her/his true self without a Dominant and vice versa. Just as in any healthy relationship with two compatible individuals, there must be a mutual understanding.

Do not confuse dominance with domineering.

@ plant...sure, some work outside the home, that is irrelevant to the concept. each relationship defines its own parameters.



[Edited 2/27/2015 7:47:07 PM ]