So.domy Laws in USA, a felony

4/7/2015 11:44:19 AM	So.domy Laws in USA, a felony
Equalizer21 Seattle, WA 54, joined Oct. 2014	some people act as if sodomy and homosexuality is and was normal in this country, and they make a big stink when we cry foul, then they go on to denigrate people who want to make these things a crime, or they want special treatment to not have to cater to such people, well news for them, most of these changes hapopened in our lifetime, it hasnt always been that way for the first couple hundred years of the American way. So you all can get off your high horse about slamming christians who still dont approve of homosexuality, all this shows is the moral decline of a nation, and for Wica guy to mock and belittle christians over this is to spit in the face of 100's of years of american way of life as a Christ centered nation....its basically spitting at God and his ways....we know who will win in the end though In 1779, Thomas Jefferson wrote a law in Virginia which contained a punishment of castration for men who engage in sodomy.[2] Jefferson intended this to be a liberalization of the sodomy laws in Virginia at that time. It was rejected by the Virginia Legislature, however, which continued to prescribe death as the maximum penalty for the crime of sodomy in that state.[3] Prior to 1962, sodomy was a felony in every state, punished by a lengthy term of imprisonment and/or hard labor. In that year, the Model Penal Code (MPC) — developed by the American Law Institute to promote uniformity among the states as they modernized their statutes — struck a compromise that removed consensual sodomy from its criminal code while making it a crime to solicit for sodomy. In 1962 Illinois adopted the recommendations of the Model Penal Code and thus became the first state to remove criminal penalties for consensual sodomy from its criminal code,[4] almost a decade before any other state. Over the years, many of the states that did not repeal their sodomy laws had enacted legislation reducing the penalty. At the time of the Lawrence decision in 2003, the penalty for violating a sodomy law varied very widely from jurisdiction to jurisdiction among those states retaining their sodomy laws. The harshest penalties were in Idaho, where a person convicted of sodomy could earn a life sentence. Michigan followed, with a maximum penalty of 15 years imprisonment while repeat offenders got life. By 2002, 36 states had repealed their sodomy laws or their courts had overturned them. By the time of the 2003 Supreme Court decision, the laws in most states were no longer enforced or were enforced very selectively. The continued existence of these rarely enforced laws on the statute books, however, was often cited as justification for discrimination against gay men and lesbians. On June 26, 2003, the U.S. Supreme Court in a 6-3 decision in Lawrence v. Texas struck down the Texas same-sex sodomy law, ruling that this private sexual conduct is protected by the liberty rights implicit in the due process clause of the United States Constitution. This decision invalidated all state sodomy laws insofar as they applied to noncommercial conduct in private between consenting civilians and reversed the Court's 1986 ruling in Bowers v. Hardwick that upheld Georgia's sodomy law. Before that 2003 ruling, 27 states, the District of Columbia, and 4 territories had repealed their sodomy laws by legislative action, 9 states had had them overturned or invalidated by state court action, 4 states still had same-sex sodomy laws, and 10 states, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. military had laws applying to all regardless of gender. In 2005 Puerto Rico repealed its sodomy law, and in 2006 Missouri repealed its law against "homosexual conduct". In 2013, Montana removed "sexual contact or sexual intercourse between two persons of the same sex" from its definition of deviate sexual conduct, Virginia repealed its lewd and lascivious cohabitation statute, and sodomy was legalized in the US armed forces. In 2005, basing its decision on Lawrence, the Supreme Court of Virginia in Martin v. Ziherl invalidated § 18.2-344, the Virginia stature making fornication between unmarried persons a crime.[5] Louisiana's statutes still include "unnatural carnal copulation by a human being with another of the same sex" in their definition of "crimes against nature", punishable (in theory) by a fine of up to $2,000 or a prison sentence of up to five years, with or without hard labor;[6] however, this section was further mooted by the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit in 2005 in light of the Lawrence decision.[7] In State v. Whiteley (2005), the North Carolina Court of Appeals ruled that the crime against nature statute, N.C. G.S. § 14-177,[8] is not unconstitutional on its face because it may properly be used to criminalize sexual conduct involving minors, non-consensual or coercive conduct, public conduct, and prostitution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
4/7/2015 2:11:04 PM	So.domy Laws in USA, a felony
walt_oftheearth Avondale, AZ 62, joined Feb. 2008	As with any other sin, homosexuality is a sin against man and God, that needs to be turned from, and repented of. But more than that I also believe it is something that needs to be healed. For only God knows how many adult homosexuals were homo-sexually abused as children. Studies have shown that it is not a small percentage, but quite large and prevalent. It is this factor that demands of the love of God in Christians, to demonstrate merciful understanding, and patience. For we do not know whether it will be in another world, or much sooner than that, that God will fling the wretched machine they have been trying to drive on the scrap heap--and give them another.
4/7/2015 9:52:36 PM	So.domy Laws in USA, a felony
Equalizer21 Seattle, WA 54, joined Oct. 2014	Quote from walt_oftheearth: As with any other sin, homosexuality is a sin against man and God, that needs to be turned from, and repented of. But more than that I also believe it is something that needs to be healed. For only God knows how many adult homosexuals were homo-sexually abused as children. Studies have shown that it is not a small percentage, but quite large and prevalent. It is this factor that demands of the love of God in Christians, to demonstrate merciful understanding, and patience. For we do not know whether it will be in another world, or much sooner than that, that God will fling the wretched machine they have been trying to drive on the scrap heap--and give them another. Walt, good points. I think the one that resonates with me the most, is showing the lovingkindness and compassion to all. This resonates with me in a couple of ways. People get me confused as being unloving and unkind in defending the word. Which is different than my personal life, im pretty laid back and very tolerant and accepting of others in many walks of life, and many people talk to me, because i have a reputation as a Good listener........ What also resonates with me, is like in this forum people will say we are homophobes, because we stand for Gods truth, or we hate Gays, because we stand for the truth, that we are unloving and unkind because we stand for the truth.....Thats just the devil talking, because they personally dont know my life. ========================================== Now about these sodomy laws. Without quoting a bunch of scripture, we have enjoyed laws that were christ centered, because the people in the land, were mostly christ centered. It has nothing to do with theocracy.... Now that these laws are being done away with, shows the decline of the nation and its peoples and how far as a nation we have departed from being Christ centered. One of the main components of this Nations constitution is that noone can enact laws, that can take away our religious freedoms. The gays rights movement as exposed and encroachment on this, and several presidents and states recognize this, and are now enacting laws, to rectify and protect this. Theres nothing wrong with that...... Wica guys whole thread is based on first bashing us, because we are alarmed over these issues, then bashing us, because we stand for the truth, then bashing us, because our nation had the forsight to enact a law, to keep religious freedom which we want to talk about and use, in light of the encroachments coming down the pike, towards christianity....nothing wrong with that. Satan always counterfeits, like when Moses and Arron went with the Rod,that budded and performed the signs........Satans magicians, working for Pharoah, frustrated the work, with their counterfeit argument. Everything in Wicas post is a counterfeit straw man argument, and several people buy it...... ===========================================
4/7/2015 9:52:45 PM	So.domy Laws in USA, a felony
Equalizer21 Seattle, WA 54, joined Oct. 2014	Now back to sodomy laws, yes many of the Gay rights movements early leaders were pedophiles. At that time they were interested in decriminalizing age consent laws also. Now if you read carefully the OP, and the following passages. You will see that in the gay rights movement, they have been effective in removing laws that protect minors from homosexual sex, and rape and influence........... Read the OP carefully, i know, i hate to have to look at it all, but its good to familiarize yourself. "pay attention to the Crimes against nature stuff" In 2005, basing its decision on Lawrence, the Supreme Court of Virginia in Martin v. Ziherl invalidated § 18.2-344, the Virginia stature making fornication between unmarried persons a crime.[5] Louisiana's statutes still include "unnatural carnal copulation by a human being with another of the same sex" in their definition of "crimes against nature", punishable (in theory) by a fine of up to $2,000 or a prison sentence of up to five years, with or without hard labor;[6] however, this section was further mooted by the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit in 2005 in light of the Lawrence decision.[7] In State v. Whiteley (2005), the North Carolina Court of Appeals ruled that the crime against nature statute, N.C. G.S. § 14-177,[8] is not unconstitutional on its face because it may properly be used to criminalize sexual conduct involving minors, non-consensual or coercive conduct, public conduct, and prostitution.[9] On January 31, 2013, the Senate of Virginia passed a bill repealing § 18.2-345, the lewd and lascivious cohabitation statute enacted in 1877, by a vote of 40 to 0. On February 20, 2013, the Virginia House of Delegates passed the bill by a vote of 62 to 25 votes. On March 20, 2013, Governor Bob McDonnell signed the repeal of the lewd and lascivious cohabitation statute from the Code of Virginia.[10] On March 12, 2013, a three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit struck down § 18.2-361, the crimes against nature statute. On March 26, 2013, Attorney General of Virginia Ken Cuccinelli filed a petition to have the case reheard en banc, but the Court denied the request on April 10, 2013, with none of its 15 judges supporting the request.[11] On June 25, Cuccinelli filed a petition for certiorari asking the U.S. Supreme Court to review the Court of Appeals decision, which was rejected on October 7.[12][13] On February 7, 2014, the Virginia Senate voted 40-0 in favor of revising the crimes against nature statue to remove the ban on same-sex sexual relationships. On March 6, 2014, the Virginia House of Delegates voted 100-0 in favor of the bill. On April 7, the Governor submitted slightly different version of the bill. It was enacted by the Legislature on April 23, 2014. The law took effect upon passage.[14] In April 2014, a proposed Louisiana bill sought to revise the state's crime against nature law, maintaining the existing prohibition against sodomy during the commission of rape and child sex abuse, and against sex with animals, but removing the unconstitutional prohibition against sex between consenting adults. The bill was defeated on April 15, 2014 by a vote of 66 to 27.[15] As of April 2014, 17 states either have not yet formally repealed their laws against sexual activity among consenting adult, or have not revised them to accurately reflect their true scope in the aftermath of Lawrence v. Texas. Often, the sodomy law was drafted to also encompass other forms of sexual conduct such as bestiality, and no attempt has subsequently succeeded in separating them. Fourteen states' statutes purport to ban all forms of sodomy, some including oral intercourse, regardless of the participants' genders: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Utah. Four states specifically target their statutes at same-sex relations only: Oklahoma, Kansas[16][17] Kentucky, and Texas. it seems some of the sodomy laws also included other aspects, so in knocking down sodomy laws, so Gays could have more freedom, it took out other laws, that will probably have to be redone, so its not a far reach to desire to make sure Religious protecton laws are in place also So its not that we are hysterical at all...........thats just a strawman argument and reason to bash and hate a fellows brothers and sisters in the Lord.

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