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So many flags!

                          

Being an inclusivist we are taught to love and respect all people and religions . One of my best friends is gay and he was there for me in my darkest times . I now call him bro . Having a gay friend has taught me not to be so quick to judge and leave judgment up to God . My other gay friend became gay after he caught his stepmom in bed with his brother . That was a very tough thing fir him to go through .

My friendship with some gay people has taught me that all are our brothers and sisters in God .

The only religion I have a problem with is the religion of atheism lol

Who wrote that?

Jesus mission was FIRST to the lost sheep of the House of Israel (the vast majority of whom rejected Him) and then later His mission was to the whole world.

So your saying that the bible says we aren't supposed to love gay people ?
We are supposed to hate gay people ?

I guess this is what happens when anyone can interprete the bible anyway they see fit ?
Did not Christ come to this earth and spent most of his time with prostitite a , tax collectors and sinners ?
Should he have hated them ? No?
Then why should I hate gay people ?

He was sent to pay the penalty of death which ALL men deserve. His death had nothing to do with the Roman's or the Pharisees.

His death was the pathway for YHVH God's Spirit of truth, so men could understand and follow Him appropriately.



I agree he was here to bring the truth. And yes his death and resurection was to demostrate the pathway of death of the physical and being reborn in the spirit.

But I believe that his death had everything to do with the Pharisee's; and the religious bondage they held with the people. He came to teach that they could find the Kingdom of heaven within themselves. They didn't need an religious authority as a gateway to Christ or to teach them the way. Because the way, and the truth, was already within them. Why do you think he challeneged their authority? Called them hypocrites? Why do you think they tried to trick him, or prove that he wasn't the Christ because his teachings didn't conform to their scrpitures, or their laws?

He was sent to pay the penalty of death which ALL men deserve. His death had nothing to do with the Roman's or the Pharisees.

His death was the pathway for YHVH God's Spirit of truth, so men could understand and follow Him appropriately.

How do you know that, Asanb? Is it just your opinion?

How do you know that, Asanb? Is it just your opinion?

How do you know that, Asanb? Is it just your opinion?

The Catholic Church teaches that "call no man father" is not to be taken literally.

Original sin is an invention of the Church to oppress and control the flock. It's a theological fantasy. He died on the cross to pay for the sins of those that he healed during his lifetime, taking on their Karma, and karma must be paid.

Are we to take it that God's some kind of ape like us with a penis then if he's a father?

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What a charming view! My own is that "sin" has scant correlation to what is morally wrong under secular conditions, and homosexual orientation and actions are no more wrong than being left handed or red haired. ...I think it's quaint that believers such as yourself derive a modicum of satisfaction from imagining folks with non-conforming beliefs, orientations and behaviours being annihilated by a judgemental supernatural predator in an unevidenced afterlife situation.

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What a charming view! My own is that "sin" has scant correlation to what is morally wrong under secular conditions, and homosexual orientation and actions are no more wrong than being left handed or red haired. I believe we are all destroyed when we die, in that we cease to exist as discrete entities with the illusion of selfhood. Other people get to inherit our stuff and do their thing though, which is some consolation. I think it's quaint that believers such as yourself derive a modicum of satisfaction from imagining folks with non-conforming beliefs, orientations and behaviours being annihilated by a judgemental supernatural predator in an unevidenced afterlife situation. I also used to like fantasy literature a bit in my younger years, and read The Lord of the Rings twice.

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Thanks, I will continue to think this way. People aren't the authors of their own characters and personalities. Folks like yourself aren't responsible for being primed with an aversion to homosexuality by being raised in social environments where fundamentalist religious beliefs are popular, and gay people aren't responsible for turning out homosexual and behaving according to how nature has made them.

Nicely said, Clarence.