| 7/14/2015 5:20:29 AM |
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deneez
Rochester, MI
57, joined Apr. 2012
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| 7/18/2015 8:47:01 AM |
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jrbogie1949
Ventura, CA
68, joined Mar. 2009
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uh, the supreme court is part of the government.
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| 7/18/2015 12:50:34 PM |
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deneez
Rochester, MI
57, joined Apr. 2012
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So disregard the Supreme Court?
And in what cases should this be done?
Any recent rulings that may come to mind?
Here I thought there was a shark, only to find my minnow still hangin on the hook.
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| 7/19/2015 11:11:38 AM |
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cowboy4672
Lillian, AL
69, joined Dec. 2012
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Interesting that you again take the "Corporate" position to have "constitutional rights" but the Individual citizen has none, if he chooses to work for a living.
In your slanted rant, The "Tax Exempt corporation" asserts its right to deny health insurance based on their "Right" to not support certain medical procedures they feel infringes on the "Religious corporations" "Rights" guaranteed by the constitution.
Using this logic, any "Religious Corporation" may at will deny coverage for any procedure they deem not in alignment with their Profit's (Boss's) teaching.
Which in effect means the corporation does not have to provide any insurance coverage, (A Huge Savings for them) nor do they have to meet the matching mandate.
The true reason for this tactic has nothing to do with religion. It is only a ploy.
It is only a way to increase profits on the shoulders of underpaid overworked employees!!
It also shifts the cost of Their employee's healthcare over to the Taxpayers through Medicaid.
When you support the exemption for corporations you agree to pay for the healthcare of their employee's!! 
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| 7/19/2015 11:20:40 AM |
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cowboy4672
Lillian, AL
69, joined Dec. 2012
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)
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| 7/20/2015 6:47:34 AM |
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deneez
Rochester, MI
57, joined Apr. 2012
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It also shifts the cost of Their employee's healthcare over to the Taxpayers through Medicaid.
Things have changed since the 14th when this was written. It will find its way to the supreme court now for a final ruling. Do your own homework.
Like the extremists would say
it's all about what the 'government' says, not your opinion
Speaking of 'shifting cost to taxpayers'....the mandate also includes providing coverage for abortions and abortifacient medication, for which I don't want to cover or provide and those that are in a religious co-op insurance type plan shouldn't be forced to pay into.
These are nuns. Of course they're going to listen to their 'Boss'
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| 7/21/2015 6:08:43 PM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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A quiet rage is building in America over the government's and radical groups assaults on American values. More than ever in the history of our country this assault is testing the patience of patriotic Americans everywhere. They are growing weary of these groups of elitists hell-bent on the destruction of our great nation, it's economy, culture, language, moral values, and sovereignty.
Recent rules in the Supreme Court have rung a bell loudly and clearly enough that many people that are normally sleeping are now awake. The American People have the right, in fact they have a solemn duty to defy any part of the government or the government as a whole when it no longer represents their best interests and seeks to subjugate rather than serve them.
The problem with not only the Supreme Court, but with the Executive Branch and Congress as well is that they have forgotten who is in charge. The American People can prosper and live without the government, but the government cannot survive without us. As more people awaken to the insanity being pushed on them more and more will start to fight back. Rational and patriotic Americans far outnumber radicals and government bureaucrats. When enough people finally awaken and just say no it's game over for these elitists that think they somehow know what is best for us in spite of what We the People want and believe. 
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| 7/22/2015 7:07:44 AM |
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jrbogie1949
Ventura, CA
68, joined Mar. 2009
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So disregard the Supreme Court?
And in what cases should this be done?
Any recent rulings that may come to mind?
Here I thought there was a shark, only to find my minnow still hangin on the hook.
disregard the supremes as you chose. the law can't. rulings that may come to mind are moot. settled law you see. i think former justice jackson said it best, "we are not final because we are infallible, we are infallible because we are final." simple really, unless you think about it.
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| 7/28/2015 9:51:59 AM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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Any ruling by any court or any law passed by any entity doesn't actually matter. Whether something is legal or not isn't important until whatever entity having jurisdiction takes it to task. My lawyer friends say you can do anything you want, legal or not, until somebody drags you into court over it. Even then it is important they take you to the right court.
A particular court can only adjudicate things within it's purview and authority. For example, a judge in a county court cannot adjudicate immigration law. If an illegal immigrant appears before him on a matter like a traffic offense the judge is powerless to rule on the more serious crime of being in the country illegally. A civil court cannot rule on criminal matters and a criminal court cannot rule on civil matters.
OJ got off in criminal court but got his a** handed to him in civil court. 
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| 7/30/2015 10:25:47 PM |
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jrbogie1949
Ventura, CA
68, joined Mar. 2009
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Any ruling by any court or any law passed by any entity doesn't actually matter. Whether something is legal or not isn't important until whatever entity having jurisdiction takes it to task. My lawyer friends say you can do anything you want, legal or not, until somebody drags you into court over it. Even then it is important they take you to the right court.
A particular court can only adjudicate things within it's purview and authority. For example, a judge in a county court cannot adjudicate immigration law. If an illegal immigrant appears before him on a matter like a traffic offense the judge is powerless to rule on the more serious crime of being in the country illegally. A civil court cannot rule on criminal matters and a criminal court cannot rule on civil matters.
OJ got off in criminal court but got his a** handed to him in civil court.
is there any jurisdiction within the u.s. where the supreme court does not reign supreme either criminal or civil???? having lawyer friends is meaningless. the study of case law can be immense.
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| 8/2/2015 1:18:39 AM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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Don't matter until they call you on it and then it only applies to you. Precedent is just that, another spin on outcomes for the next idiot that wants to play. Regardless, it is just you or who.
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| 8/2/2015 9:21:03 AM |
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jrbogie1949
Ventura, CA
68, joined Mar. 2009
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Don't matter until they call you on it and then it only applies to you. Precedent is just that, another spin on outcomes for the next idiot that wants to play. Regardless, it is just you or who.
no clue what you're trying to say here.
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| 8/5/2015 3:08:14 AM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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Boogie, you are a progressive liberal. It is not surprising you don't understand. Liberals have great difficulty recognizing reality and responding to it rationally. It is expected.
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| 8/7/2015 10:41:05 AM |
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jrbogie1949
Ventura, CA
68, joined Mar. 2009
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Boogie, you are a progressive liberal. It is not surprising you don't understand. Liberals have great difficulty recognizing reality and responding to it rationally. It is expected.
i'll take this to mean that you cannot lend credibility or sensibility to your earlier remark.
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| 10/4/2015 4:25:37 PM |
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luckylouie42
Cedar Grove, WV
74, joined Mar. 2008
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the supreme court needs to have term limits, some of those folks are senile, and sleep most of the day. 
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| 10/16/2015 7:59:19 AM |
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jrbogie1949
Ventura, CA
68, joined Mar. 2009
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the supreme court needs to have term limits, some of those folks are senile, and sleep most of the day.
the court already has term limits. one term each life. simple really unless you think about it.
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| 10/20/2015 9:43:35 AM |
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alls_fair
Thorlákshöfn
Iceland
97, joined May. 2011
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A quiet rage is building in America over the government's and radical groups assaults on American values. More than ever in the history of our country this assault is testing the patience of patriotic Americans everywhere. They are growing weary of these groups of elitists hell-bent on the destruction of our great nation, it's economy, culture, language, moral values, and sovereignty.
Recent rules in the Supreme Court have rung a bell loudly and clearly enough that many people that are normally sleeping are now awake. The American People have the right, in fact they have a solemn duty to defy any part of the government or the government as a whole when it no longer represents their best interests and seeks to subjugate rather than serve them.
The problem with not only the Supreme Court, but with the Executive Branch and Congress as well is that they have forgotten who is in charge. The American People can prosper and live without the government, but the government cannot survive without us. As more people awaken to the insanity being pushed on them more and more will start to fight back. Rational and patriotic Americans far outnumber radicals and government bureaucrats. When enough people finally awaken and just say no it's game over for these elitists that think they somehow know what is best for us in spite of what We the People want and believe.
At one time, I would have agreed with everything you have said here...
Then BOcare came along and proved me wrong...
The US has become a gaggle of self-absorbed sheep...and any manner of civic minded resistance has vanished!
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| 10/20/2015 9:54:52 AM |
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alls_fair
Thorlákshöfn
Iceland
97, joined May. 2011
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Chief John Roberts wrote in his opinion and on behalf of the Court on the first decision on BOcare that "We [the Supreme Court] are generally reticent to declare the laws passed by our nation's elected leaders as unconstitutional"...
That statement is very telling about the current attitude toward the checks and balances system created by the founding fathers. Frankly, the arrogance of it is stupefying...
When you couple that with the citizens united decision, I think it is safe to say that the supreme court has joined the rest of the fed'ral gubment as prime candidates for long term stays in a sanitorium of your choosing...
I see no other recourse than to ignore the supreme court and the entire fed'ral gubment summarily!
I am not sure why the rest of the gubment ignoring the supreme court causes the OP(ie) any sort of grief. Clearly, the gubment and its individual components are operating on the presumption that they can do whatever they want whenever they want to do it...and We The People are content to sit on our asses and let them get away with it...
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| 12/31/2015 4:01:50 AM |
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deneez
Rochester, MI
57, joined Apr. 2012
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Update, belated.
The Nuns won. 
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| 1/29/2016 6:56:25 PM |
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bestint
Somerville, MA
48, joined Jul. 2014
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Update, belated.
The Nuns won. 
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| 1/29/2016 7:32:11 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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| 2/8/2016 4:12:28 PM |
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youtubejunkie
Medford, OR
60, joined Dec. 2013
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Whos your daddy??? Emergency War Act of 1941.
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| 2/9/2016 7:07:43 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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So, what is your question, OP?
I comprehend your lengthy opinion. 
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| 2/10/2016 11:17:32 AM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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Polls and pundits are not reliable in determining political leanings and the outcomes of elections. Primaries where people actually vote are. It is interesting that we seem to be seeing a reincarnation of Carter vs Reagan in 1980. Polls and politicos predicted a clean sweep of Reagan under the rug. The reality of the outcome was quite different. Carter and the democrats were swept away. It is interesting to note that as we type our arguments political outsiders represented in the anti-establishment candidates Trump and Sanders are "unexpectedly" leading the primaries so far. In addition the number of people turning out to actually vote in primaries is breaking records. Could it be things have gotten bad enough that the people have awakened?
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| 2/10/2016 12:12:14 PM |
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youtubejunkie
Medford, OR
60, joined Dec. 2013
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Copy and paste this in YouTube. This will give you a taste of what big brother is up to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNGJXDuLkdI
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| 2/10/2016 12:22:12 PM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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EXACTLY! Call as it is. The GOP as a whole who only wants to obey laws that they like 4 example: ROE v WADE law of the land since early 70s & every supreme Court nominees have declared it settled but the GOP are still at war with it.
Abortion is a choice between nurturing or killing a child. People should make their choices before, not after, they assume the responsibility for the human life they created.
If you plant a seed in dirt the moment it begins to grow it is truly alive. It is no different with people. The zygote is surely alive at the moment of it's first cellular division.
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| 6/8/2016 1:13:13 PM |
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youtubejunkie
Medford, OR
60, joined Dec. 2013
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The truth is world bankers own our government. The only thing that gets done in this country is whats in their best interest and not the people.
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