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9/6/2015 9:57:58 PM  

longbobby
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Quote from naprinciple:
Quote from blake6972:
If you or anyone thinks Chris Kyle was a murderer, then you are a idiot and dumbass.
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I didn't say he was a murderer, I said CHRIS KYLE WAS A MASS MURDERER!


This ! +1

Chris Kyle was a War Criminal too.

Here's the thing though, nap. Blaaakey is a ZioNazi who infers he is a "Christian" or a "Follower of Christ" or whatever ( he changes his religious positions each day and night).

ZioNazis APPROVE of war criminals.

To sum up Chris Kyle – he served the Illuminati Jewish banking empire that runs America and London. Not America or Americans. That’s just the bottom line of it all.







[Edited 9/6/2015 9:58:55 PM ]

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9/6/2015 11:28:08 PM Lufkin, TX  
blake6972
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Bobby you are a total f**king jackass.

Paranoid much little jewish bobby?

Chris Kyle is a American hero.

Period.

9/7/2015 12:14:40 AM Lufkin, TX  

longbobby
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Quote from blaaaake6972:
Bobby you are a total f**king jackass.

Paranoid much little jewish bobby?

Chris Kyle is a American hero.

Period.
--------------------------------------------

You don't know what you're talking about.

Argumentum ad hominems, projecting, denying, and lying is all you're good for.

Chris Kyle was a War Criminal. A MASS MURDERER of children,

You're a ZioNazi who infers he is a "Christian" or a "Follower of Christ" or whatever
(you change your religious position every 5 minutes).

ZioNazis APPROVE of war criminals.

To sum up Chris Kyle – he served the Illuminati Jewish banking empire that runs America and London. Not America or Americans. That’s just the bottom line of it all.





9/7/2015 1:59:19 AM Lufkin, TX  
amusicluvr
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A MASS murderer murders many people at one time / in one place...as by detonating a bomb in a crowded shopping mall. When did Kyle do that? Snipers tend to be SERIAL killers...killing one selected person at a time / place. and doing so again somewhere else at some other time. Government snipers are NOT Murderers. Murder is the ILLEGAL killing of HUMAN beings. US Government assassinations-Mafia like 'Hits' the government refers to as 'Touches'-are legal. They are formal executions of those who have been tried-often in absentia-and found guilty, and duly sentenced to death. They had a trial, a defense, and an appeal, and lost them all. There is, in fact, a special US Federal court which handles nothing but such cases.

What little I have heard about Kyle says he was performing government work on assignment, which means he was not murdering. He was executing. What evidence do you have to show otherwise? WHO did Kyle MURDER...where, when, how? Publish full details, or STFU about it. In America one is innocent until proven guilty. Kyle is innocent of Murder, until you prove otherwise. Rumor, hearsay, innuendo, propaganda, your opinion, and such, are NOT admissible evidence...let alone proof. I have heard little about Kyle, and am not one of his fans, but I am a fan of The US Constitution, so I uphold it.

9/7/2015 2:08:36 AM Lufkin, TX  

longbobby
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Quote from ahomoluvr:
A MASS murderer murders many people at one time / in one place...as by detonating a bomb in a crowded shopping mall. When did Kyle do that? Snipers tend to be SERIAL killers...killing one selected person at a time / place. and doing so again somewhere else at some other time. Government snipers are NOT Murderers. Murder is the ILLEGAL killing of HUMAN beings. US Government assassinations-Mafia like 'Hits' the government refers to as 'Touches'-are legal. They are formal executions of those who have been tried-often in absentia-and found guilty, and duly sentenced to death. They had a trial, a defense, and an appeal, and lost them all. There is, in fact, a special US Federal court which handles nothing but such cases.

What little I have heard about Kyle says he was performing government work on assignment, which means he was not murdering. He was executing. What evidence do you have to show otherwise? WHO did Kyle MURDER...where, when, how? Publish full details, or STFU about it. In America one is innocent until proven guilty. Kyle is innocent of Murder, until you prove otherwise. Rumor, hearsay, innuendo, propaganda, your opinion, and such, are NOT admissible evidence...let alone proof. I have heard little about Kyle, and am not one of his fans, but I am a fan of The US Constitution, so I uphold it.
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American Sniper portrays Iraqi women & children as soulless monsters who Chris Kyle is forced to kill to protect invading US soldiers.

The Real American Sniper Was A Hate-filled Killer Why are simplistic patriots treating him as a hero?



Of course, it has been conclusively demonstrated that Israel and Jewish criminals occupying key positions of power and influence within the United States government and mass media planned, organized, and executed 9/11 in order to officially initiate and justify the “Global War on Terror,” in which American military, financial, and human capital would be wasted fighting wars on Israel’s behalf.


A parallel development following the events of 9/11 was the Israelification of American domestic security and law enforcement policy, where the threat of terrorism is constantly hyped and manufactured to psychologically terrorize the American public.

It is time for the American public to finally recognize the fact that both the “Global War on Terror” and the “Homeland Security” paradigms are Jewish constructs advancing international Jewry’s geopolitical agenda of global hegemony.

January 16, 2015 “ICH” – “The Guardian“ – I have to confess: I was suckered by the trailer for American Sniper. It’s a masterpiece of short-form tension – a confluence of sound and image so viscerally evocative it feels almost domineering. You cannot resist. You will be stressed out. You will feel. Or, as I believe I put it in a blog about the trailer, “Clint Eastwood’s American Sniper trailer will ruin your pants.”

But however effective it is as a piece of cinema, even a cursory look into the film’s backstory – and particularly the public reaction to its release – raises disturbing questions about which stories we choose to codify into truth, and whose, and why, and the messy social costs of transmogrifying real life into entertainment.

Chris Kyle, a US navy Seal from Texas, was deployed to Iraq in 2003 and claimed to have killed more than 255 people during his six-year military career. In his memoir, Kyle reportedly described killing as “fun”, something he “loved”; he was unwavering in his belief that everyone he shot was a “bad guy”.

“I hate the damn savages,” he wrote. “I couldn’t give a flying f**k about the Iraqis.” He bragged about murdering looters during Hurricane Katrina, though that was never substantiated.



As Laura Miller wrote in Salon: “In Kyle’s version of the Iraq war, the parties consisted of Americans, who are good by virtue of being American, and fanatic Muslims whose ‘savage, despicable evil’ led them to want to kill Americans simply because they are Christians.”

9/7/2015 3:16:01 AM Lufkin, TX  
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Books, and movies, tend to add a lot of BS to 'based on fact' stories, in order to add more drama, and suspense, and action. In real life, government snipers tend to take up a position far from a target, sit there for hours, or days, or a week, and wait for the target to appear. Then the sniper fires once, killing the target, and then quickly vacates the area. That is pretty boring to fans of Rambo , and Terminator, type movies...so directors tend to dress it up a bit. Neither books, or movies, constitute "Admissible Evidence"....unless their factuality can be established thoroughly.

9/7/2015 3:18:34 AM Lufkin, TX  
blake6972
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Boobie loves to take huge black Jewish c*ck .

He loves the Jews.



9/7/2015 3:19:40 AM Lufkin, TX  
blake6972
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Chris Kyle is a real American hero.

9/7/2015 3:23:13 AM Lufkin, TX  

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Quote from AINO_blaaaaakey69:
Chris Kyle is a real American hero.
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Only ZioNazis think like that.

Where would these Rabbi's get the idea Zionists are Nazi's, AINO blaaakey?



If it wasn't true, that is?

How many times are you going to accuse me of being what you are and liking what you like, AINO blaaakey?

9/7/2015 3:24:42 AM Lufkin, TX  
blake6972
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Jewish Boobie is a homosexual.

Chris Kyle is a American hero.

9/7/2015 3:25:52 AM Lufkin, TX  

longbobby
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Says the faceless ZioNazi homo?

Rabbi's know Zionists are Nazi's. That's good enough for me.

9/7/2015 3:27:03 AM Lufkin, TX  

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9/7/2015 3:35:49 AM Lufkin, TX  
amusicluvr
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Violence-beating people, shooting them, killing them in various ways-DOES generate a strong Endorphin (Adrenalin) High. It DOES 'feel good'. The more you do it, the better it feels...like any drug high. It CAN become as addictive as Heroin, and it takes a special type of person to resist, and remain non-addicted. Personally, I enjoyed the killing I have done...but I did NOT enjoy enjoying it. I experienced the Adrenalin High, but did not enjoy experiencing it. It bothered me that such a thing could feel so good, and I thus guarded against experiencing it any more often than need be. Instead of killing, enjoying the high, and then killing some more to enjoy more of the high-as most 'Thrill Killers' do-I killed only when I needed to (to save myself, or someone else), felt the high, and then came down when the danger was past, and made a point of not getting into another situation any more often than need be.

I did not seek out trouble. I avoided it. I stayed away from bars, sports arenas, etc, when fights often occurred. I stayed out of rough parts of town, unless working there as a policeman, or paramedic. I drank very little, and only in private, in my home. When trouble came my way, I avoided it as much as I could, and was only violent when absolutely necessary. The last time I shot someone, it was in my home. He had broken in, and attacked me. Had he not done so, I would have left him alone.

It is possible that Kyle was one of those who enjoyed the killing too much, was addicted to it, and sought out opportunities for more of it. I don't know enough about him, or his real story, to say one way, or the other. Even so, I am betting that he did only sanctioned Touches...executing those who had been tried, convicted, and lost appeals. If he had to do that sort of work, he might s well enjoy it. I have seen no PROOF that he went beyond the law, and Murdered anyone. Tough talk-for the sake of selling books, and movie tickets-is NOT Admissible Evidence.

9/7/2015 5:15:26 AM Lufkin, TX  
giss7
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Quote from hallucis:
I can tell by the stupid responses that you all believe in god. That's more proof


Dude my iq is twice what yours is. Am I a good Christian? No. If you knew anything about math, physics, or science you would know spontaneous generation is a theory disproven a thousand years ago, but some how you geniuses say that's how life began. Interesting.

9/7/2015 5:21:41 AM Lufkin, TX  

pentopaper2
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Quote from condor_0000:
And yet God never comes to the rescue of anyone. Why not?

All throughout history, the most useless act anyone could undertake has been praying to a god.



yet you pray everyday to fidel castro to ask America for more 63 dodge parts

9/7/2015 5:48:33 AM Lufkin, TX  
Yasureoktoo
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Actually that is where you want to sell them.

However your years are off, 61 and 62 was when they were cut off.

9/7/2015 5:56:30 AM Lufkin, TX  

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9/7/2015 5:58:20 AM Lufkin, TX  
Yasureoktoo
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They do have some awesome 50's cars there though.

9/7/2015 7:01:28 AM Lufkin, TX  

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The church represents priests whom molest kids and it's still bloody rife!~

Atheists don't hide behind a BS bible!~

9/7/2015 7:15:52 AM Lufkin, TX  
condor_0000
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Quote from Mercedes_02:
The church represents priests whom molest kids and it's still bloody rife!~

Atheists don't hide behind a BS bible!~


Why the epidemic of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church?
By David Walsh
29 March 2002
World Socialist Web Site
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2002/03/chur-m29.html

Excerpts:

onfronted with undeniable facts or confessions by priests, the Catholic Church has offered vague and blanket apologies. Pope John Paul II made his first comment on the abuse scandal March 21, observing that the Church “shows her concern for the victims and strives to respond in truth and justice to each of these painful situations.”

In reality, the response of the Church hierarchy, at least until recently, has been to suppress the charges entirely when it could, deny them when it could not, and reach agreements with victims that often included guarantees of confidentiality when it could neither suppress nor deny the charges.

Indeed, the Catholic Church would deserve condemnation simply on the basis of its decades-long indifference to the psychological and physical suffering of an unknown, but very large number of its youngest and most defenseless members.

As deplorable as the abusive priests’ conduct is, we are not inclined in this case, as in any other, to attribute it, in the words of John Paul II, to the “mystery of evil.” The priests in question are not monsters, they are human beings, some no doubt originally motivated to join the Church by idealism. They themselves are victims, of the Catholic Church itself.

The attempt by Church officials to blame the behavior on a few individual predators, overcome by evil, is absurd. That the abuse is a long-standing and worldwide phenomenon demonstrates it is not aberrant behavior, but something ingrained in the institution and its practices. Contrary to the pope’s view, there is hardly any “mystery” whatsoever about the source of the misconduct: it emerges ineluctably from the inhuman and unnatural celibacy requirement and related medieval teachings and practices of the Church on human sexuality, associated with the doctrine of man’s Original Sin. After decades, or perhaps centuries, of concealment, the psychologically perverse consequences of these teachings and practices have been exposed for all to see.

The crisis over sexual abuse by members of the priesthood underscores the profoundly reactionary and anachronistic character of the Catholic Church as an institution. Its corrupt and hypocritical officials, living like kings, preach against sin and vice, oppose birth control and abortion, inveigh against homosexuality, enthusiastically advocate censorship and intellectual repression, universally ally themselves with the powers that be and generally make life miserable for tens of millions of people.

This mass of social reaction and backwardness must find reflection in personal relationships both within the Church and between priests and parishioners.

There are a host of questions bound up with the abnormal psychology often found in the priesthood that are beyond the scope of this article. Eugene Kennedy, a former priest, now married, has written about the issue. In regard to previous sex abuse scandals, he writes about “revelations of the miserable, furtive, and immature personality growth of many priests, of which their preying, helplessly, on young boys, helpless, was a major symptom.” That this often takes the form of abuse of boys, while in society at large girls are far more likely to be victims, has less to do with the percentage of homosexual men who enter the priesthood than it does, on the one hand, with the sexual opportunities available to those deprived of humane and healthy outlets and, on the other, with an institution characterized, in Kennedy’s words, by “this movement of men to overcome other men.”

He details the authoritarian and sadistic tendencies he came across within the Church officialdom, of men whose “sexually toned personality needs ... might horrify them if they identified these as their own drive to control or to dominate others.” There is an obvious connection between all this and the notorious repression meted out in Catholic schools longer than there have been memoirs and novels to record it.

Every aspect of the sexual abuse crisis—the pain and suffering of the victims, the misery and sexual dysfunction of the priests, the callousness of Church officials—suggests a diseased institution whose practices and beliefs run counter to elementary human needs and inevitably breed the unhealthiest of psycho-sexual climates. The Catholic Church’s essential being flies in the face of modern society.

Priestly celibacy

The strict enforcement of priestly celibacy, it turns out, is of relatively recent origin. There is no reference in the New Testament to compulsory celibacy; in fact, all of the apostles were apparently married. Frederick Engels, in his essay, “On the History of Early Christianity,” notes “a phenomenon common to all times of great agitation, that the traditional bonds of sexual relations, like all other fetters, are shaken off.” As the Catholic Church consolidated itself as a state institution, its tolerance of sexual freedom decreased and its exaltation of virginity, as a condition closer to the divine, increased. The first systematic attempts to impose anti-marital laws within the Church took place in the fourth century, in the aftermath of Emperor Constantine’s declaration that Christianity was henceforth the official religion of the Roman Empire.

Over the next number of centuries, pressures for celibacy grew, but by and large the Church failed to convince priests to abstain from sexual relations. By the tenth century, one historian notes: “Statistics are of course not available, but it is generally agreed that most rural priests were married, and that many urban clergy and bishops had wives and children.” The most fervent advocate of celibacy was Gregory VII (1073-85), but the decisive step was taken at the Second Lateran Council in 1139. Priests became unmarriageable by definition, and those who had married after ordination were instructed to divorce. However, since the marriage ceremony was not yet entirely under Church jurisdiction, priests who married secretly continued to serve. This loophole was effectively closed in 1563 at the Council of Trent, which introduced the requirement that Christian marriages be witnessed by a priest.

Continued . . .

9/7/2015 7:16:08 AM Lufkin, TX  
condor_0000
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Continued . . .

The imposition of celibacy was met with open resistance. Church officials who attempted to enforce Gregory’s decrees, for instance, were jeered at, spat upon and sometimes physically attacked. One clerical opponent argued that Gregory “was seeking to compel men to live like angels.... By opposing the normal course of nature, however, he was only promoting unchastity.” Opposition to celibacy endured. Of course, one form it took came to be known as the Protestant Reformation. Martin Luther, who married in 1524, asserted there was no scriptural basis for celibacy.

Within the Church itself, many priests continued to ignore the ban on marriage. In Spain marriage among priests was apparently an established practice in the sixteenth century. Another historian writes that “Celibacy suffered setbacks during the Enlightenment and the French Revolution, which proclaimed in 1791 that no man should be prevented from marrying. Thousands of French priests took wives.”

While the Catholic hierarchy’s original opposition to priests marrying was no doubt conditioned by centuries of anti-sexual propaganda, it has quite worldly and material foundations, to be discovered principally in the question of Church land and property. The ability of priests and various Church officials to leave property to their heirs was of deep concern to Gregory and other popes. Clerics, in some cases, owned churches and monasteries and passed them on to children or siblings. Secular rule over Church property could extend for generations. This began to be a pressing issue during the tenth and eleventh centuries. It is not difficult to see why Gregory and his supporters denounced both lay proprietorship and clerical marriage.

Historians have asserted political concerns as well, for example, that depriving a priest of home and family tended to weaken his national feeling, ensured his subservience to the central authority in Rome and made him more of a malleable instrument in the hands of the papal autocracy.

The Catholic officialdom instinctively recognizes that every outmoded institution is most vulnerable at the moment it attempts to reform itself. After vigorously preserving priestly celibacy for centuries, for the Church to abandon it might provoke an uncontrollable crisis. It would not satisfy genuinely reform-minded critics, and it would infuriate and embitter conservative elements. Far better to ignore the realities of modern life, place priests in an impossible position and endanger children and adolescents, Church officials calculate, than see the possible unraveling of the entire institution.

9/7/2015 9:36:51 AM Lufkin, TX  
giss7
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Quote from Mercedes_02:
The church represents priests whom molest kids and it's still bloody rife!~

Atheists don't hide behind a BS bible!~



Yes they just molest little boys and don't feel bad about it.

9/7/2015 9:45:00 AM Lufkin, TX  

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9/7/2015 10:08:48 AM Lufkin, TX  

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9/7/2015 10:14:10 AM Lufkin, TX  

jester0011
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god is watching u.

9/7/2015 10:24:24 AM Lufkin, TX  

jitssbaby617
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online now!


Some of the freest towns on earth are christians, Kentucky, Alabama, Texas, Arkansas...

Keep up what ever your doing!

9/7/2015 10:41:35 AM Lufkin, TX  
funwithmusic
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[]Quote from waltree:[And that is why religion likes Stupid people!

My education is a couple of years beyond high school. I consider myself to be Agnostic. But, I was Indoctrinated as a child into the Christian Religion. I found the Legend of Jesus Christ to be Very Appealing. His Teachings are still influencing my life's decisions. I consider Him to have been a Wise Man! But that is where it Ends with me. It is Not so much religion that I find Offensive! It Is The Bible/Koran Thumping Hypocrisy of the professed Believers That Turned me against Religion. What Jesus taught and what the people of the church practice were at complete odds.

That is why republicans are against education. They Know Stupid People are Easy to Take Advantage of.


================================================
MUSIC
Your right...the church has lost its way..iTS BEEN INFILTRATED BY GODLESS BASTARDS FILLING PEOPLES HEADS WITH FALSE PROPHESY...FALSE DOCTRINES..but it happened only because people do not read the bible..and do not do what it says to do for their own God.....They instead listen to pastors..who are listening to Jewish rabbis..which is FORBIDDEN in the bible..but they do it anyway..THEY FOLLOW MEN..INSTEAD OF GOD..

GOD DOES NOT FORBID THINGS TO WRECK YOUR FUN..ITS FORBIDDEN BECAUSE ITS NOT GOOD FOR YOU...JUST LIKE A PARENT PROTECTS A CHILD FROM MOLESTATION.....GOD PROTECTS US FROM BOTH MOLESTATION..AND MENTAL MOLESTATION..if you heed his warnings..

Grown up peoples lives are in the shitter by their own hand..they can blame no one else.

Where in the world do you get the idea that REPUBLICANS ARE AGAINST EDUCATION? Were against educating our children into homosexuality..liberalism...destructive teachings such as that..

sorry to burst your bubble mind..but its the left that is taking advantage of the mental midgets of the left wing ...You people even fall for the lies of GLOBAL WARMING...which were PROVEN LIES..and yet..YOU BELIEVE..


=========================================

THERE IS NO INTELLIGENT DESIGN? ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?


there is a toad..that lives with a deadly spider...The toad eats the ants off the spiders eggs...and in return..the spider allows the toad to live in her nest...in safety...protecting the toad..

SEE THE TOAD..LIVING UNDERNEATH THE SPIDER?..YOU REALLY THINK THIS IS JUST AN ACCIDENT? This is Gods Intelligent design


Tiny frogs and giant spiders: the best of friends
http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2009/07/03/tiny-frogs-and-giant-spiders/





Another relationship between a microhylid and a spider was reported on Rameshwaran Island (off the south-east coast of India) by Siliwal & Ravichandran (2008). These authors reported that they first became alerted to the possibility of an unusual relationship between the arboreal tarantula Poecilotheria and the microhylid Kaloula taprobanica* after seeing individuals of both species emerge from the same tree hole, and then stand in close proximity without the spider showing any predatory interest in the frog (recall that big spiders will ordinarily eat small frogs if the situation allows). And Poecilotheria is a large, aggressive tarantula, quite capable of killing and eating small frogs [image above shows a close relative of K. taprobanica, K. baleata, from wikipedia. Image below, from Siliwal & Ravichandran (2008), shows K. taprobanica on the left, the spider on the right, and the shared tree hole in the middle].



THERE ARE MANY MORE STORIES JUST LIKE THIS..THE EARTH..TESTIFIES TO GODS EXISTENCE..if you cannot see it..your not trying..



[Edited 9/7/2015 10:44:11 AM ]

9/7/2015 10:47:57 AM Lufkin, TX  
funwithmusic
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Quote from Mercedes_02:
The church represents priests whom molest kids and it's still bloody rife!~

Atheists don't hide behind a BS bible!~


WRONG...the Catholic church was infiltrated BY YOUR OWN PEOPLE..ATHIESTS...




Dont believe me?

GOOGLE BELLA DODD, SCHOOL OF DARKNESS..@Henry Makow Save the Males (site)


She was an athiest communist..turned Catholic..AND EXOSED THE ATHIEST AGENDA OF TRYING TO TAKE DOWN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FROM WITHIN.



SO...NOW YOU KNOW..IT WAS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO RAPED THOSE CHILDREN...not the men of God you blindman..




GOOGLE YOU TUBE: ATHIESM...LICENSE TO KILL....and see THE MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS MURDER BY ATHIESTS IN POWER..


Ignorance can lead you to slander others..and even your own death..at the hand of your own kind..


I hope you now have a much more knowledgeable view of the REAL WORLD you are living in..

9/7/2015 12:01:34 PM Lufkin, TX  
fellowforyou
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Religion is for those who don't believe in God.
They're hoping for a sign.

9/7/2015 12:15:26 PM Lufkin, TX  

longbobby
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Just relax Timmy. I'm your doctor not your Rabbi.

9/7/2015 12:34:40 PM Lufkin, TX  
Yasureoktoo
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Religion is what keeps the poor, from killing the rich.

9/7/2015 3:34:26 PM Lufkin, TX  
amusicluvr
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The Pseudo-Christian Pharisees should READ their Bibles more. The story is that God turned Earth over to Man in Eden, and there Man turned Earth over to Satan. Satan is the Prince of this world, Satan rules here. God does not rule here. God has let Man have what he wants, and is letting him learn that it aint so fun after all. Being Satan's toy is not the pleasure package Man thought it would be..Why doesn't God do more to help people, prevent disasters, stop wars, etc? Because that is not His job, because Earth is not HIs planet. It is Satan's job to make things better...but he enjoys making them worse. Man asked for this, by choosing to follow Satan rather than following God. Man is getting what he asked for.

Either that, or God, Satan, etc, do not exist, religion is a just cruel joke, and Random Chance Occurrence shits on everyone a little...every now and then.

Believe what you want, but at least TRY to be at least SEMI-consistent about it.

9/7/2015 4:01:38 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Quote from ahomoluvr:
The Pseudo-Christian Pharisees should READ their Bibles more. The story is that God turned Earth over to Man in Eden, and there Man turned Earth over to Satan. Satan is the Prince of this world, Satan rules here. God does not rule here. God has let Man have what he wants, and is letting him learn that it aint so fun after all. Being Satan's toy is not the pleasure package Man thought it would be..Why doesn't God do more to help people, prevent disasters, stop wars, etc? Because that is not His job, because Earth is not HIs planet. It is Satan's job to make things better...but he enjoys making them worse. Man asked for this, by choosing to follow Satan rather than following God. Man is getting what he asked for.

Either that, or God, Satan, etc, do not exist, religion is a just cruel joke, and Random Chance Occurrence shits on everyone a little...every now and then.

Believe what you want, but at least TRY to be at least SEMI-consistent about it.
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I just love it when atheist. marxist, izzies attempt to interpret a book they have never read and do not believe in.

That being said you have a point about the Pseudo-Christian Pharisees.

As far as I can see...Pseudo-Christian Pharisees = Judeo-Christian Zionists



But hey, thanks for demonstrating who the jews REALLY worship.



[Edited 9/7/2015 4:02:56 PM ]

9/7/2015 10:37:42 PM Lufkin, TX  
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I'm not Atheist, or Marxist, or a homo, and I have done a better job of knowing, quoting, and interpreting The Bible, than you have shorty. If you want to follow The Bible, follow ALL of it...or follow none of it. Your tendency to embrace three words here, and ignore entire books there, is stupid. Have you finished reading Revelation yet? Or Isaiah? I bet not.

9/7/2015 10:44:13 PM Lufkin, TX  
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Here is a concept, learn what the writings stand for.
The NT is different from the OT.

9/7/2015 10:45:25 PM Lufkin, TX  
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And Revelation is gibberish, and can mean anything the reader wants it to mean, a pretty good indication it did not come from any God.

9/7/2015 11:05:23 PM Lufkin, TX  
Yasureoktoo
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I don't believe in Zeus.

9/7/2015 11:25:04 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Quote from amusicluvr:
The Pseudo-Christian Pharisees should READ their Bibles more. The story is that God turned Earth over to Man in Eden, and there Man turned Earth over to Satan. Satan is the Prince of this world, Satan rules here. God does not rule here. God has let Man have what he wants, and is letting him learn that it aint so fun after all. Being Satan's toy is not the pleasure package Man thought it would be..Why doesn't God do more to help people, prevent disasters, stop wars, etc? Because that is not His job, because Earth is not HIs planet. It is Satan's job to make things better...but he enjoys making them worse. Man asked for this, by choosing to follow Satan rather than following God. Man is getting what he asked for.

Either that, or God, Satan, etc, do not exist, religion is a just cruel joke, and Random Chance Occurrence shits on everyone a little...every now and then.

Believe what you want, but at least TRY to be at least SEMI-consistent about it.
@im'an-unmuscularhomo, Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him--Proverbs 26:4

9/7/2015 11:31:57 PM Lufkin, TX  

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If you're going to insult people by calling them 'stupid', it's best to learn how to employ contractions.

9/8/2015 2:20:11 AM Lufkin, TX  
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
And Revelation is gibberish, and can mean anything the reader wants it to mean, a pretty good indication it did not come from any God.


Revelation is not gibberish. You just have to know a few things. Women in prophecy are always churches. Brides / virgins are true churches of God. Wh*res are false churches...churches of Satan. The land is Israel, The waters / seas are gentiles. The Abomination Of Desolation is one thing...someone standing up in The Temple of God, claiming to BE God, when He is NOT God. That can only happen in one place...God's Temple In Israel, on one piece of land on which there are now three Moslem mosques. The more you know, the easier Revelation is to decode. Like a novel, or a history text, it hops back, and forth, and repeats key items., to drive a point home. The 144,000 of Revelation are 12,000 male Jewish, virgins from each of Israel's twelve tribes, and so can NOT be Jehovah's Witnesses.

Mystery Babylon is Semiramis worship...the worship of "The Mother Of God", and "The Queen of Heaven"...modern day, Roman Catholic, Mary worship...borrowed from Ancient Babylon's Mystery Religion in which Semiramis was worshipped as "The Queen Of Heaven, and The Mother of God". Semiramis was queen of Babylon, and declared herself Queen of Heaven, and earth, after her son-with whom she had been having incestuous sex-was killed. She told the nation that he had ascended to Heaven, and become God. He was dead on Earth, but alive in Heaven, and she was human, but divine, and Mother of the God who created all. How that could be was a mystery, but to doubt that it would get you executed.

The Roman Catholic Pope is The Anti-Christ, and Mary worship will be required of all on Earth when The Anti-Christ comes fully into power. Revelation has a lot of interesting things in it, if you know how to interpret it.

9/8/2015 3:18:07 AM Lufkin, TX  

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Quote from ahomoluvr:
Revelation is not gibberish. You just have to know a few things. Women in prophecy are always churches. Brides / virgins are true churches of God. Wh*res are false churches...churches of Satan. The land is Israel, The waters / seas are gentiles. The Abomination Of Desolation is one thing...someone standing up in The Temple of God, claiming to BE God, when He is NOT God. That can only happen in one place...God's Temple In Israel, on one piece of land on which there are now three Moslem mosques. The more you know, the easier Revelation is to decode. Like a novel, or a history text, it hops back, and forth, and repeats key items., to drive a point home. The 144,000 of Revelation are 12,000 male Jewish, virgins from each of Israel's twelve tribes, and so can NOT be Jehovah's Witnesses.

Mystery Babylon is Semiramis worship...the worship of "The Mother Of God", and "The Queen of Heaven"...modern day,Roman Catholic, Mary worship...borrowed from Ancient Babylon's Mystery Religion in which Semiramis was worshipped as "The Queen Of Heaven, and The Mother of God". Semiramis was queen of Babylon, and declared herself Queen of Heaven, and earth, after her son-with whom she had been having incestuous sex-was killed. She told the nation that he had ascended to Heaven, and become God. He was dead on Earth, but alive in Heaven, and she was human, but divine, and Mother of the God who created all. How that could be was a mystery, but to doubt that it would get you executed.

The Roman Catholic Pope is The Anti-Christ, and Mary worship will be required of all on Earth when The Anti-Christ comes fully into power. Revelation has a lot of interesting things in it, if you know how to interpret it.

9/8/2015 3:44:03 AM Lufkin, TX  

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Snafu



[Edited 9/8/2015 3:45:55 AM ]

9/8/2015 3:44:52 AM Lufkin, TX  

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If your not stupid you will listen to god when he says things. Just listen to Isiah 17 that says Syria will be destroyed utterly.

They say Yemen had a tactical smaller nuke in May 2015. What's do say it can't happen in Damascus, Syria? Especially with Russian nuke subs in the area.












9/8/2015 6:34:38 AM Lufkin, TX  
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Quote from amusicluvr:
Revelation is not gibberish. .


and yellow really means green, Yes means no, up means down.


If it needs to be interpreted, that is a pretty good indication it did not come from any God.

9/8/2015 1:52:23 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Amusiclovr, oh ye brave Godless, Liberal soul of the hidden profile, you are bearing false witness against your neighbor, which is strictly forbidden by God’s law, although I am certain you could care less about God’s law. Catholics do not worship Mary. Ask any Catholic. You are bearing false witness. And no, the Catholic pope is NOT the Antichrist. We have many divine revelations about the Antichrist, he will be a half blood, his father will be a bishop of Syrian descent, and his mother a nun of Hebrew descent. He will be born in Israel. He will rule as a king, not a pope. In fact, he will wage the last and greatest persecution of the Church and martyr the final pope of the Church. He will begin his rise to power in Greece, and after having obtained the endorsement of the Jews in Israel, will conquer towards the east. He will rebuild the city of Babylon and reestablish the Babylonian Empire, refurbish the city of Jerusalem, rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem and later seat himself in the temple, declaring that Jesus Christ was an imposer and declaring himself to be God and the true Jewish Messiah. Following this, he will wage the last and greatest persecution of the Church, during this persecution the cup of the blood of the martyrs will be filled to overflowing. None of this fits the popes. The Antichrist will not be a pope. You owe Catholics an apology.

You have a long way to go to understand the Book of Revelations.

Louie

9/8/2015 4:01:49 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Nobody believed that gangster-capitalist line of crap any more fervently than right-wingers.

Regardless of how many times the ruling-class and their political operatives lie like thieves, right-wingers are always eager to believe the new set of lies. Kind of like how billionaire capitalist Donald Trump is going to "take back America." Yeah? From whom? The billionaire capitalists who currently own it?


He will take it back from the sick path of socialism we are heading down.

9/8/2015 4:05:25 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Right.
Because god hates poor people and loves billionaires.

9/8/2015 4:10:05 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Donald has said nothing of takeing back but of making America strong again! and this is from a mostly liberal man. I like Fiorina my self.

9/8/2015 4:52:16 PM Lufkin, TX  
cherap
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Quote from stargazzer:
Donald has said nothing of takeing back but of making America strong again! and this is from a mostly liberal man. I like Fiorina my self.


You really should pay more attention:

"The silent majority is back, and we’re going to take the country back," Trump promised. "We're going to make America great again." Trump

What's funny is that so called silent majority hasn't shut up in decades, and it's sad that some people fixate almost entirely with what is wrong, and completely ignore what is right about our country. And our country is extremely divided on what is right in the first place.

It's not even clever or original. Takes very little to excite the far right conservative base. Almost as little as it takes any base if you stick with appealing to base emotions.

9/8/2015 5:16:51 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Quote from louie6332:
....you are bearing false witness against your neighbor, which is strictly forbidden by God’s law....



That never bothered you before.

9/8/2015 5:33:12 PM Lufkin, TX  
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Quote from louie6332:
Amusiclovr, oh ye brave Godless, Liberal soul of the hidden profile, you are bearing false witness against your neighbor, which is strictly forbidden by God’s law, although I am certain you could care less about God’s law. Catholics do not worship Mary. Ask any Catholic. You are bearing false witness. And no, the Catholic pope is NOT the Antichrist. We have many divine revelations about the Antichrist, he will be a half blood, his father will be a bishop of Syrian descent, and his mother a nun of Hebrew descent. He will be born in Israel. He will rule as a king, not a pope. In fact, he will wage the last and greatest persecution of the Church and martyr the final pope of the Church. He will begin his rise to power in Greece, and after having obtained the endorsement of the Jews in Israel, will conquer towards the east. He will rebuild the city of Babylon and reestablish the Babylonian Empire, refurbish the city of Jerusalem, rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem and later seat himself in the temple, declaring that Jesus Christ was an imposer and declaring himself to be God and the true Jewish Messiah. Following this, he will wage the last and greatest persecution of the Church, during this persecution the cup of the blood of the martyrs will be filled to overflowing. None of this fits the popes. The Antichrist will not be a pope. You owe Catholics an apology.

You have a long way to go to understand the Book of Revelations.

Louie


You are allright Louie.I

If it were up to me I would put you in charge of Loin and co.

9/8/2015 6:38:05 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Quote from aposorichie:
You are allright Louie.I

If it were up to me I would put you in charge of Loin and co.
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Are you still going to be endorsing jouie after the 23rd of this month when the comet he SAYS will destroy the Earth turns out to be a hoax?

You want to know how jouie is a fraud?

He thinks the "comet" ...

1. Is genuine.

2. Is going to destroy Earth.


Genuine, God fearing, Christians know better. They know God will cause the "comet" (if real and not a Zio hoax) to veer off and miss the Earth.

There is no doubt in our minds.

But, Jews who pretend to be Judeo-Christian Zionists like jouie does have been milking this "comet" scam for all it is worth.

9/8/2015 11:38:59 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Nope, Longbobby, you got that a** backwards. The comet would have missed the Earth, but God had an angel divert it into a collision course with Earth. He is punishing the world, and America. This will be the beginning of the Great Chastisement of God foretold in the Christian prophecies, which will be the greatest punishment from God since the Great flood of Noah, and few will survive it. God has warned Christians through his prophets (posting on YouTube videos for example) that it is coming and cannot now be turned back, to get ready, to get out of cities, out of coastal plains, and so on. And is warning that a world wide financial collapse and world bankruptcy is coming this year, and to lay away food, and do it NOW!!! He has also warned our Government that it is coming because he wanted them to know that it is HE who is sending It. And our government is tracking it and expecting it to hit the Earth Sept 23. They are preparing to take shelter for themselves, but are NOT telling the American people. They plan to use it as part of their plan to reduce the world’s population by 90%.

No, God has been protecting the Earth from such wayward celestial strikes by diverting celestial objects on collision courses with Earth AWAY from impact, but now is sending one to impact earth (as he has done in the previous destructions of the Earth’s surface, as occurred, for example during the Great Flood of Noah. This will not be a total destruction of the Earth’s surface, but will cause a vast amount of destruction and great loss of life, especially in America. These are Christian prophecies, by the way, not Jewish prophecies.

By the way Longbobby, and you are not going to like this, but towards the end of the Great Chastisement and its Third World War, after the justice of God has been satisfied, after men have lost all means of ever rising again by human means and have surrendered to Divine Providence, Mary, who from the beginning has received from God the power and the mission to crush the head of Satan, will, at the command of God, return at the head of the armies of Heaven to snatch the victory from the jaws of the Red Dragon, crush the head of Satan, and restore all things in Christ. At that time the Muslims will be destroyed, and the Mohammedanism religion will cease to exist, and the few Muslims who survive will become Christians. Since you are a Muslim masquerading as a Christian in your profile, I am sure you are not going to like that. Satan and his Muslim partisans are going to get their a** stomped by a woman. How humiliating! But that’s life.

You keep confusing the apostasy of the Jews with Zionism--two different things. But as I have told you before, God himself is a Zionist, he gave that land to the descendants of Abraham, and you will have to fight God himself to take it away from them. The fate of Israel and our fate are tied together, whether you like it or not. If we force Israel to divide its land, God will divide OUR land, and if Israel falls, WE fall. A warning to the wise is sufficient.

Louie

9/8/2015 11:47:30 PM Lufkin, TX  

longbobby
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Quote from jouie666:
Nope, Longbobby, you got that a** backwards. The comet would have missed the Earth, but God had an angel divert it into a collision course with Earth. He is punishing the world, and America. This will be the beginning of the Great Chastisement of God foretold in the Christian prophecies, which will be the greatest punishment from God since the Great flood of Noah, and few will survive it. God has warned Christians through his prophets (posting on YouTube videos for example) that it is coming and cannot now be turned back, to get ready, to get out of cities, out of coastal plains, and so on. And is warning that a world wide financial collapse and world bankruptcy is coming this year, and to lay away food, and do it NOW!!! He has also warned our Government that it is coming because he wanted them to know that itis HE who is sending It. And our government is tracking it and expecting it to hit the Earth Sept 23. They are preparing to take shelter for themselves, but are NOT telling the American people. They plan to use it as part of their plan to reduce the world’s population by 90%.

No, God has been protecting the Earth from such wayward celestial strikes by diverting celestial objects on collision courses with Earth AWAY from impact, but now is sending one to impact earth (as he has done in the previous destructions of the Earth’s surface, as occurred,for example during the Great Flood of Noah. This will not be a total destruction of the Earth’s surface, but will cause a vast amount of destruction and great loss of life, especially in America. These are Christian prophecies, by the way, not Jewish prophecies.

By the way Longbobby, and you are not going to like this, but towards the end of the Great Chastisement and its Third World War, after the justice of God has been satisfied, after men have lost all means of ever rising again by human means and have surrendered to Divine Providence, Mary, who from the beginning has received from God the power and the mission to crush the head of Satan, will, at the command of God, return at the head of the armies of Heaven to snatch the victory from the jaws of the Red Dragon, crush the head of Satan, and restore all things in Christ. At that time the Muslims will be destroyed, and the Mohammedanism religion will cease to exist, and the few Muslims who survive will become Christians. Since you are a Muslim masquerading as a Christian in your profile, I am sure you are not going to like that. Satan and his Muslim partisans are going to get their a** stomped by a woman. How humiliating! But that’s life.

You keep confusing the apostasy of the Jews with Zionism--two different things. But as I have told you before, God himself is a Zionist, he gave that land to the descendants of Abraham, and you will have to fight God himself to take it away from them. The fate of Israel and our fate are tied together, whether you like it or not. If we force Israel to divide its land, God will divide OUR land, and if Israel falls, WE fall. A warning to the wise is sufficient.

Jouie666 the FALSE TEACHER!

Exposing the False Teachers

In his exposure of these false teachers, Paul gives us six identifying marks that can guide us to discern the presence of "wolves in sheep's clothing" in our midst today.

First, false teachers distract Christians from obeying the truth of the gospel (v. 7). Paul compliments the Galatian believers for running a good race. Running a race was one of Paul's favorite images for living the Christian life. Here this image portrays how well they were obeying the truth. The gospel set the course for their life, and they were running well in that course. The reality of their belief in the truth about Christ was demonstrated by their obedience to Christ. But then they were distracted, tripped and so hindered from running this race. Paul asks them, Who cut in on you and kept you from obeying the truth? The question is rhetorical. Paul knows the answer. But by asking the question this way he exposes the false teachers' negative effect on the life of the believers. The picture is of a runner who distracts another runner, blocks his way, cuts in on him and trips him. Everyone would have been very angry with a runner who did such a thing. He would have broken the clear rules against cutting in or tripping in the foot races of the Greek festivals. He would be immediately disqualified and excluded from the festival.

The false teachers are hindering the Christians from obeying the truth of the gospel with all their talk about joining the Jewish people and keeping the law. All those who get the church off on a tangent, away from the clear direction given by the central truth of the gospel, are like these false teachers. They should be disqualified and excluded from the churches.

Second, false teachers replace the call of God with their own deceptive persuasiveness (v. 8). That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you, Paul informs his readers. When Paul had preached the gospel, the Galatians heard the voice of God calling them through Paul (1:6). But when the false teachers teach, all that can be heard is flattery, boastfulness and empty rhetoric. They are skillful orators. No doubt they claim to be giving God's message backed by Scripture. But all one can hear through their strident voices is a harsh repetition of the demands of the law. What a contrast to "the one who called you by the grace of Christ" (1:6) and the God who "called me by his grace" (1:15). Their message is all about the works of the law, not about God's work of grace in Christ. So obviously their persuasion does not come from God, who always calls by his grace.

Third, false teachers gain control over the whole church (v. 9). Just as a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough, so the negative influence of a few false teachers has penetrated the whole church and is quickly coming to control the direction of the church. False teachers are like that; they seek to dominate every situation in the life of the church.



[Edited 9/8/2015 11:48:49 PM ]

9/8/2015 11:47:38 PM Lufkin, TX  

longbobby
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Fourth, false teachers cause confusion and discouragement (v. 10). When the Galatians were converted, they related to God with the joyful confidence of children, calling him "Abba, Father" through the Spirit. But their confidence in God's grace has been badly shaken by the false teachers, who threaten them with the judgment of God if they do not keep the law of God. They are confused and discouraged. So Paul reassures the Galatians of his confidence in the Lord regarding them: I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other view. And then he turns the tables on the false teachers by putting them under the judgment of God: The one who is throwing you into confusion will pay the penalty, whoever he may be.

Fifth, false teachers spread false reports about spiritual leaders. We may infer that verse 11 is Paul's response to a false report that had been given about him. Since the immediate context focuses on the corrupting influence of the false teachers, it seems reasonable to suppose that they claimed Paul's support for their campaign to circumcise the Gentile believers. We don't know on what basis they would have done this. Perhaps if this letter was written after Paul circumcised Timothy, as recorded in Acts 16:3, they may have appealed to that incident. Or maybe they pointed to Paul's own willingness to continue his Jewish way of life even after his conversion (see 1 Cor 9:20). Whatever their basis may have been, they gave a false report about Paul to strengthen their own position.

Paul had, of course, preached circumcision before his conversion. He had been "extremely zealous for the traditions" of Judaism (1:14). But after his conversion he preached the cross of Christ as the only way of salvation. True, he continued to support Jewish Christian adherence to the traditional Jewish way of life. But he consistently resisted anyone who tried to "force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs" (2:14). That was a key point of his autobiography (1:13--2:21). Paul proves that the report that he is still preaching circumcision is false by pointing to the fact that he is being persecuted (5:11). Both non-Christian Jews and many Christian Jews fiercely opposed him precisely because he did not require circumcision. His refusal to require circumcision clearly implied that it was not necessary to belong to the Jewish nation to belong to the covenant people of God. By denying the exclusive claim of the Jewish people to be the only true people of God, Paul seemed to deny the reason for the Jewish people's very existence. No wonder, then, that they persecuted him from one country to another. If Paul had preached circumcision, then he would not have been persecuted by the Jews. By preaching circumcision, he would have been communicating that it was necessary to belong to the Jewish nation because the salvation of God was available only to those within this nation.

Paul says in verse 11 that if he has communicated that salvation is only in the Jewish nation by preaching circumcision, the offense of the cross has been abolished. For then the message that salvation is only through the cross of Christ would have been denied. The offense of the cross is that it denies a "most favored nation" status, a "superior race" category, as the reason for God's blessing. For the blessing of God comes only through the cross, where the judgment of God upon all was removed by Christ's death (see 3:13-14). The message of Christ crucified is offensive not only to Jews but also to the pride of all who want to claim some personal merit as the basis of God's approval.

Sixth, false teachers emphasize sensational rituals. Verse 12 sounds terribly harsh and crude, but we must interpret it in its historical and cultural context. It would indeed have been a sensational ceremony if all the male members of the Galatian churches had been circumcised by the false teachers. But then, Paul says, somewhat sarcastically, if they really want to put on a sensational show, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves! He is probably referring here to a barbaric ritual that actually took place in his day in Galatian pagan temples. The priests of Cybele, the mother goddess of the earth, castrated themselves with ritual pincers and placed their testicles in a box. (Such a box is now on display in the Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge, England.) The false teachers were leading the Galatian Christians to think that the ritual of circumcision was a sacred act that would bring them into fellowship with God. But Paul has already said that "in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value" (v. 6). Now he puts the ritual of circumcision in the same category as the ritual castration of the Galli, the priests of the mother-goddess of the earth, Cybele; it had no more significance to the Gentile Christians than any of the other barbaric, bloody rituals practiced in the ancient world.

So Paul has totally discredited the value of circumcision and the motives of the false teachers who want to impose it upon the churches in Galatia. They only "want to make a good impression outwardly" (6:12); they want to boast in their sensational ceremony (see 6:13). Since their motive is to put on an impressive ritual show, they might as well learn a few lessons from the pagan priests, who really know how to put on a good show when it comes to using a knife on the human body!

It is never pleasant to expose the deceptive, destructive tactics of the "false brothers." But it is necessary to do so in order to protect the freedom of fellow Christians. Of course circumcision is not an issue today. But we are constantly faced with a choice between different religious options. They are not all the same; they are not all spokes on a wheel leading to the same hub. Some religious options lead to slavery and imprisonment. Only by obedience to the truth of the gospel of Christ can we protect the freedom that is ours in Christ.

https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/IVP-NT/Gal/Exposing-False-Teachers

9/8/2015 11:52:58 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Galatians 1:6-10 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.


Hey jouie666?

Turn away from your different gospel before your soul is forfeit!

9/8/2015 11:57:50 PM Lufkin, TX  

longbobby
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Hey FALSE TEACHER jouie666?

Your "Earth Destroying" meteor hit Thailand yesterday. It didn't do anything.

Better find a new scam to try and trick the rubes with.

Thai meteorite: Huge fireball lights up sky over Bangkok (VIDEO)





9/8/2015 11:58:35 PM Lufkin, TX  
cherap
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Quote from louie6332:
Nope, Longbobby, you got that a** backwards. The comet would have missed the Earth, but God had an angel divert it into a collision course with Earth. He is punishing the world, and America. This will be the beginning of the Great Chastisement of God foretold in the Christian prophecies, which will be the greatest punishment from God since the Great flood of Noah, and few will survive it. God has warned Christians through his prophets (posting on YouTube videos for example) that it is coming and cannot now be turned back, to get ready, to get out of cities, out of coastal plains, and so on. And is warning that a world wide financial collapse and world bankruptcy is coming this year, and to lay away food, and do it NOW!!!

Louie



Heres a guy that actually consciously worships an evil and genocidal god, and wants you to as well.

Your god is an irresponsible and horrific bully, Louie. No better than his followers that have done horrific things in his name. but i can see why you like that kind of that sort of thing.



[Edited 9/8/2015 11:59:48 PM ]

9/9/2015 12:25:54 AM Lufkin, TX  
ron6280a
Over 2,000 Posts (2,111)
Detroit, MI
53, joined Oct. 2013


Quote from cherap:

Your god is an irresponsible and horrific bully, Louie. No better than his followers that have done horrific things in his name. but i can see why you like that kind of that sort of thing.

You and your girlfriend licking each others anus is horrific. You're just pissed at God because he won't sanction your sicko desires. I can't see why you like that kind of that sort of thing.

9/9/2015 1:43:05 AM Lufkin, TX  

wvtravlrr
Over 2,000 Posts (3,507)
Ravenswood, WV
56, joined Mar. 2013


Quote from hallucis:
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I don't pray. How do you explain people who have prayed and their prayers weren't answered?


I'm bettin he yells God Damn it...when he hits his thumb with a hammer...


Or he's a Satan worshipper..

Can't have the darkness without the Light...



longbobby - Lufkin, TX