Estevan, SK

9/15/2015 2:41:42 AM
mralwaysrite Estevan, SK 53, joined Feb. 2014	"Pay them a living wage so I do not have to subsidize the working poor" Yeah, right Here are Walmart numbers from two sources Revenue Increase US$ 485.651 billion (2014) Operating income Increase US$ 27.147 billion (2014) Net income Increase US$ 16.363 billion (2014) Number of employees 2.2 million (2015) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walmart --------------- Revenue......485.65B Net Income.......16.36B http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/stockdetails/fi-126.1.WMT.NYS?ocid=INSFIST10 --------------- For your info, the formula for calculating operating income is: Operating Income = Revenue MINUS Cost of Goods Sold (COGS), Labor, and other day-to-day expenses NOW, 1. Assuming 90% of Walmart employees (approx. 2 million world-wide) are minimum wage workers earning $9/hr U.S. (PPP) 2. Assuming an average of $15/hr U.S. X 40hrs X 52 weeks = living wage 3. Assuming 90% of Walmart employees were given a $6/hr raise, and/or a living wage Thus, 2 million X $6 X 40 X 52 weeks = $24.96 billion QUESTION: Would Walmart cease to exist? Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
9/15/2015 2:56:29 AM	Estevan, SK
k1ngmaker Edmonton, AB 35, joined Apr. 2010	So what you're saying is that they can't exist unless we subsidize them. Oh well, guess they can go out of business then right? It's not like others stores won't take their places. You do realize that north America used to have people who got paid living wages in their stores right?
9/15/2015 4:41:08 AM	Estevan, SK
mralwaysrite Estevan, SK 53, joined Feb. 2014	Quote from k1ngmaker: . Oh well, guess theySo what you're saying is that they can't exist unless we subsidize them can go out of business then right? It's not like others stores won't take their places. You do realize that north America used to have people who got paid living wages in their stores right? In the discount retail industry, one formula kept wages down; cheap labor in manufacturing, volume, and global distribution This formula also affected many specialty retailers, however, many have survived and are doing well due to a loyal upper-middle class clientele.
9/15/2015 6:43:49 AM	Estevan, SK
mralwaysrite Estevan, SK 53, joined Feb. 2014	What about the fast food junkies? McDonald's Revenue......27.44B Net Income......4.76B Number of employees.....420,000 (2014) http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/stockdetails/fi-126.1.MCD.NYS?ocid=INSFIST10 ---------- Thus, 420,000 X 90% X $6 raise X 40 X 52 weeks = $4.7 billion Gone!
9/15/2015 6:44:59 AM	Estevan, SK
condor_0000 Tampa, FL 58, joined Feb. 2013	I don't know if telling the overwhelming majority of the world's people, the working class, that they need to be slave labor so that capitalism can continue to exist and make billionaires who don't work lots more money, is really a winning argument.
9/15/2015 6:53:12 AM	Estevan, SK
inventtis2 South Haven, MI 37, joined Nov. 2012	Prices would just go up and they would gain little or more jobs would be pushed over seas.
9/15/2015 6:59:33 AM	Estevan, SK
deneez Rochester, MI 56, joined Apr. 2012	Quote from condor_0000: I don't know if telling the overwhelming majority of the world's people, the working class, that they need to be slave labor so that capitalism can continue to exist and make billionaires who don't work lots more money, is really a winning argument. There is no way capitalism will cease. every store owner, farmer, bakery, or anyone who engages in the market IS a capitalist. call them 'petty' if you like, but it never mattered if YOU like, I like it, or anyone else likes it. people are free to utilize a talent as a livelihood, and are free to engage in meaningful ways to make a living. they are free to 'have' capital (they own their means of production) and to engage in transactions that make them money. people are also free to determine what a living wage is for them. the idea that YOU, or I, or anyone else for that matter can determine what this is, does not take into account the 'petty' capitalist who is more than happy on 35,000/year because he does what he loves. you continue to fail because you don't realize that the problem isn't too much capitalism, it's too few capitalist's. if you support the 'big boxes', YOU are raping your own community.
9/15/2015 7:00:33 AM	Estevan, SK
condor_0000 Tampa, FL 58, joined Feb. 2013	Quote from inventtis2: Prices would just go up and they would gain little or more jobs would be pushed over seas. I don't know if telling the overwhelming majority of the world's people, the working class, that under the capitalist system there is zero possibility that they will ever be more than slave labor; and that any increase in their income in a capitalist society will only be met by increased prices, thereby keeping then perpetually as nothing more than slaves to rich capitalist parasites, is really a winning argument.
9/15/2015 7:02:44 AM	Estevan, SK
deneez Rochester, MI 56, joined Apr. 2012	Quote from condor_0000: I don't know if telling the overwhelming majority of the world's people, the working class, that under the capitalist system there is zero possibility that they will ever be more than slave labor; and that any increase in their income in a capitalist society will only be met by increased prices, thereby keeping then perpetually as nothing more than slaves to rich capitalist parasites, is really a winning argument. The problem with capitalism isn't too much capitalism, it's too few capitalists.
9/15/2015 7:06:04 AM	Estevan, SK
condor_0000 Tampa, FL 58, joined Feb. 2013	Quote from deneez: you continue to fail because you don't realize that the problem isn't too much capitalism, it's too few capitalist's. Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein Excerpt: Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands, partly because of competition among the capitalists, and partly because technological development and the increasing division of labor encourage the formation of larger units of production at the expense of smaller ones.
9/15/2015 7:09:30 AM	Estevan, SK
condor_0000 Tampa, FL 58, joined Feb. 2013	Quote from deneez: The problem with capitalism isn't too much capitalism, it's too few capitalists. We have exactly the society capitalism has created. It's not a big mystery why Walmart, Home Depot, McDonalds and Lowes are everywhere.
9/15/2015 7:13:41 AM	Estevan, SK
inventtis2 South Haven, MI 37, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from condor_0000: I don't know if telling the overwhelming majority of the world's people, the working class, that under the capitalist system there is zero possibility that they will ever be more than slave labor; and that any increase in their income in a capitalist society will only be met by increased prices, thereby keeping then perpetually as nothing more than slaves to rich capitalist parasites, is really a winning argument. It was just what I would expect to happen. I believe they could be paid more, but if they get a $6/hr raise, then I want a $30/hr raise, because I'm still worth more than they are by a wide margin.
9/15/2015 7:23:11 AM	Estevan, SK
condor_0000 Tampa, FL 58, joined Feb. 2013	Quote from inventtis2: It was just what I would expect to happen. I believe they could be paid more, but if they get a $6/hr raise, then I want a $30/hr raise, because I'm still worth more than they are by a wide margin. Oh my God! No! Well, I can clearly see now that if we don't pay most workers slave wages, why the entire capitalist system will collapse as all workers will demand higher wages all along the scale. But tell me again how that's a winning argument for capitalism.
9/15/2015 7:34:49 AM	Estevan, SK
peterk2 Fort Lauderdale, FL 55, joined May. 2007	Quote from k1ngmaker: So what you're saying is that they can't exist unless we subsidize them. Oh well, guess they can go out of business then right? It's not like others stores won't take their places. You do realize that north America used to have people who got paid living wages in their stores right? no, they never did. min wage is only just meant to be a starter. people cant move up b/c their bosses cant move up. the econ is ded. dems have overtaxed and overregulated the econ, why else would companies move offshore?
9/15/2015 7:38:52 AM	Estevan, SK
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9/15/2015 7:42:09 AM	Estevan, SK
peterk2 Fort Lauderdale, FL 55, joined May. 2007	kinkfake's hero, amoralfukr, condom, foulcon, chitty lights, haggie valley, miztakegal, muldumb too. [Edited 9/15/2015 7:43:09 AM ]
9/15/2015 7:48:28 AM	Estevan, SK
condor_0000 Tampa, FL 58, joined Feb. 2013	Quote from peterk2: min wage is only just meant to be a starter. We don't even need to turn to history to defeat that idiotic argument. We can simply look around the world and see what capitalism is currently doing. We all know that American capitalists have long been eliminating good-paying factory jobs in America and exporting production to slave-waged locations around the world. Minimum wage isn't some kind of starter wage from where everyone quickly moves up. Minimum wage is actually significantly ABOVE the wages capitalists want to pay workers as parasitic capitalists seek to get rich off the labor of others. ------------------ Pew report: 84 percent of world population subsists on under $20 per day By Andre Damon 11 July 2015 World Socialist Web Site https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/07/11/poor-j11.html Disney's Hell in Haiti http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/43a/294.html Capitalism's Ideal Workplace is the Prison By Chris Hedges April 06, 2015 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41455.htm How Slavery Gave Capitalism Its Start http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/24/how-slavery-gave-capitalism-its-start.html
9/15/2015 7:48:54 AM	Estevan, SK
reginamc Las Vegas, NV 60, joined Mar. 2011	Quote from inventtis2: It was just what I would expect to happen. I believe they could be paid more, but if they get a $6/hr raise, then I want a $30/hr raise, because I'm still worth more than they are by a wide margin. Exactly! They will be making more than their supervisors.
9/15/2015 7:52:42 AM	Estevan, SK
peterk2 Fort Lauderdale, FL 55, joined May. 2007	why arent the guys selling beer or hot dogs paid just as much as A-Rod? gee! it isnt fair! its just so much better under communism. or banana republic police states.
9/15/2015 7:55:28 AM	Estevan, SK
peterk2 Fort Lauderdale, FL 55, joined May. 2007	Quote from condor_0000: We all know that American capitalists have long been eliminating good-paying factory jobs in America and exporting production to slave-waged locations around the world. you left out american schools training international workers, democratic overtaxing, overregulating chasing companies out of here and creating mortgage messes. how nice for your commie lie
9/15/2015 8:17:02 AM	Estevan, SK
mralwaysrite Estevan, SK 53, joined Feb. 2014	Quote from condor_0000: We have exactly the society capitalism has created. It's not a big mystery why Walmart, Home Depot, McDonalds and Lowes are everywhere. Condor, Capitalism hasn't just created discount retailers, and fast food junkies For example; at least 2,200 SLAVE employees at Microsoft's became millionaires, and the company founders, billionaires.
9/15/2015 8:20:29 AM	Estevan, SK
condor_0000 Tampa, FL 58, joined Feb. 2013	Quote from mralwaysrite: Condor, Capitalism hasn't just created discount retailers, and fast food junkies For example; at least 2,200 SLAVE employees at Microsoft's became millionaires, and the company founders, billionaires. Yep! So, see everybody! We need the overwhelming majority of workers to be paid slave wages so that workers can all become millionaires. Wait a minute! What?
9/15/2015 8:29:39 AM	Estevan, SK
peterk2 Fort Lauderdale, FL 55, joined May. 2007	slave wages are democratic. everybody starts at them. they were never meant to be a career, except in your commie brain. go back to russia
9/15/2015 8:41:50 AM	Estevan, SK
jrbogie1949 Ventura, CA 66, joined Mar. 2009	Quote from deneez: There is no way capitalism will cease. every store owner, farmer, bakery, or anyone who engages in the market IS a capitalist. call them 'petty' if you like, but it never mattered if YOU like, I like it, or anyone else likes it. people are free to utilize a talent as a livelihood, and are free to engage in meaningful ways to make a living. they are free to 'have' capital (they own their means of production) and to engage in transactions that make them money. people are also free to determine what a living wage is for them. the idea that YOU, or I, or anyone else for that matter can determine what this is, does not take into account the 'petty' capitalist who is more than happy on 35,000/year because he does what he loves. you continue to fail because you don't realize that the problem isn't too much capitalism, it's too few capitalist's. if you support the 'big boxes', YOU are raping your own community. wow, i was about to say, 'very well said,' and then i read your last sentence. can you connect all of your praise for capitalism with your claim that support for big boxes is synonymous with raping my community? how could walmart exist were it not for a relatively free market, capitalistic economic system that we in america enjoy? christy walton may have been born with a silver spoon in her mouth but ole' sam sure as hell wasn't.
9/15/2015 8:44:25 AM	Estevan, SK
mralwaysrite Estevan, SK 53, joined Feb. 2014	Quote from condor_0000: Yep! So, see everybody! We need the overwhelming majority of workers to be paid slave wages so that workers can all become millionaires. Wait a minute! What? Condor, tell me; Is it fair that a full-time employee at XYZ exploration earns 10 times as much as a full time employee at McDonald's?
9/15/2015 8:52:58 AM	Estevan, SK
jrbogie1949 Ventura, CA 66, joined Mar. 2009	Quote from condor_0000: Yep! So, see everybody! We need the overwhelming majority of workers to be paid slave wages so that workers can all become millionaires. Wait a minute! What? you're not suggesting that the overwhelming majority of workers in america are paid slave wages are you? are you really?
9/15/2015 8:53:04 AM	Estevan, SK
lobo_corazon Orleans, ON 46, joined May. 2008	Quote from deneez: There is no way capitalism will cease. every store owner, farmer, bakery, or anyone who engages in the market IS a capitalist. Only if they have non-family employees, pay those employees less than the value they produce, and pocket the difference. The fact that many workers also engage in capitalism to some extent (as we live in a capitalist world) does not prove that capitalism is absolutely necessary. On the other hand, the fact that the native North American tribes thrived for hundreds of years without it proves that it isn't necessary.
9/15/2015 8:54:57 AM	Estevan, SK
lobo_corazon Orleans, ON 46, joined May. 2008	Quote from jrbogie1949: you're not suggesting that the overwhelming majority of workers in america are paid slave wages are you? are you really? I don't see "in America" anywhere in his post. The thing about socialists is that they look more at the big picture, and what benefits workers in general... Rather than just what benefits them personally, or their family/town/whatever. I suppose that's a big part of why they are social-ists.
9/15/2015 8:58:27 AM	Estevan, SK
jrbogie1949 Ventura, CA 66, joined Mar. 2009	Quote from lobo_corazon: I don't see "in America" anywhere in his post. The thing about socialists is that they look more at the big picture, and what benefits workers in general... Rather than just what benefits them personally, or their family/town/whatever. I suppose that's a big part of why they are social-ists. didn't say 'america' was in his post, did i? the question was meant to allow him to clarify a statement he made for ME. is that okay with you??? may i ask questions of others here as i see fit???
9/15/2015 9:07:19 AM	Estevan, SK
lobo_corazon Orleans, ON 46, joined May. 2008	Quote from inventtis2: It was just what I would expect to happen. I believe they could be paid more, but if they get a $6/hr raise, then I want a $30/hr raise, because I'm still worth more than they are by a wide margin. This is ridiculous. What you have to understand is that there's a huge difference between the first $20k or so in salary (that you need to spend to survive) and the next 20k, 100k, million, whatever. The point of a living wage is more about not needing to take money from you and me in taxes to pay welfare to workers who don't make enough for food and shelter. It isn't a who does what thing... Everyone needs food and shelter.
9/15/2015 9:13:40 AM	Estevan, SK
lobo_corazon Orleans, ON 46, joined May. 2008	Quote from jrbogie1949: didn't say 'america' was in his post, did i? the question was meant to allow him to clarify a statement he made for ME. is that okay with you??? may i ask questions of others here as i see fit??? Sure, as long as I can question you as I see fit when I think your question is posed in a silly way. You knew he wasn't focused only on America, so your question was rhetorical I guess? As long as we allow the Capitalists to keep us divided and conquered (and dreaming of being able to "earn" money for nothing like them), they will continue to keep us under their heel.
9/15/2015 9:35:19 AM	Estevan, SK
alls_fair Thorlákshöfn Iceland 95, joined May. 2011	Are you subsidizing the poor??? Or are you providing welfare for the rich??? I humbly maintain that it is welfare for the rich you are providing...as well as convenient one stop tax collection for the gubment... (I am sure you can imagine that collecting taxes from ONE super retailer is far more convenient than collecting from 1000 different retailers.) If wally world and mcdonald's go belly up, it far from any great loss to the people or the nation! [Edited 9/15/2015 9:36:02 AM ]
9/15/2015 9:59:49 AM	Estevan, SK
nuffan Kennesaw, GA 52, joined Mar. 2014 online now!	Quote from peterk2: why arent the guys selling beer or hot dogs paid just as much as A-Rod? gee! it isnt fair! its just so much better under communism. or banana republic police states. Here we go again...raising minimum wage is not EQUAL to paying the beer vendor the same A-Rod is paid... Why do right wing morons ALWAYS jump to that? If Walmart can not survive paying a living wage they should close their doors... and I for one HOPE THEY do...I have not shopped at Walmart since the 1980's...
9/15/2015 10:05:52 AM	Estevan, SK
mr_bad_robot Cincinnati, OH 40, joined Jul. 2014	Where I live the average living wage would be for a family of 4 with one adult working $21.30 an hour working 2080 hours a year with company provided health care benefits. Now these wages are rock bottom bare minimal. $21.30 is $44,304 gross per year for a family of 4. I don't see a company like Walmart paying $21.30 an hour with health care benefits and providing their employees with 2080 hours of work every year.
9/15/2015 10:23:32 AM	Estevan, SK
Yasureoktoo Seattle, WA 60, joined Dec. 2014	Quote from mr_bad_robot: Where I live the average living wage would be for a family of 4 with one adult working $21.30 an hour working 2080 hours a year with company provided health care benefits. Now these wages are rock bottom bare minimal. $21.30 is $44,304 gross per year for a family of 4. I don't see a company like Walmart paying $21.30 an hour with health care benefits and providing their employees with 2080 hours of work every year. what you are failing to print is that if a person makes 21 bucks an hour, he cost the company about 26 bucks an hour.
9/15/2015 10:35:34 AM	Estevan, SK
mr_bad_robot Cincinnati, OH 40, joined Jul. 2014	Quote from Yasureoktoo: what you are failing to print is that if a person makes 21 bucks an hour, he cost the company about 26 bucks an hour. I never failed to print anything. I left out the total cost but made sure to include health care benefits to the equation. However, my point was there is no way in hell a company like Walmart will begin to pay their employees this kind of money working 2080 hour a year with benefits.
9/15/2015 10:39:49 AM	Estevan, SK
alls_fair Thorlákshöfn Iceland 95, joined May. 2011	Keeping employees in abject poverty is the "guarantee" they will keep returning to work...in a really dysfunctional employment philosophy! And while that may seem absurd at first glance, it appears to be the prevalent attitude in the US...
9/15/2015 10:44:03 AM	Estevan, SK
clarity101 Aurora, CO 64, joined Oct. 2008
9/15/2015 10:44:47 AM	Estevan, SK
mralwaysrite Estevan, SK 53, joined Feb. 2014	Quote from nuffan: Here we go again...raising minimum wage is not EQUAL to paying the beer vendor the same A-Rod is paid... Why do right wing morons ALWAYS jump to that? If Walmart can not survive paying a living wage they should close their doors... and I for one HOPE THEY do...I have not shopped at Walmart since the 1980's...[/they will close their doors there is only one law that would mandate companies to pay living wagesminimum wage if there a law living wage, then yes, many nuffan, A few years ago, President Obama proposed increasing the minimum wage from $7.25 to $9, and then, the Congressional democrats proposed to raise it to $10.10, and peg it to inflation. What region in the U.S. $10.10 X 40hrs X 52 weeks = $21,000 is a living wage for a single parent, one kid? And according to LOBO, "The point of a living wage is more about not needing to take money from you and me in taxes to pay welfare to workers"
9/15/2015 10:46:27 AM	Estevan, SK
mralwaysrite Estevan, SK 53, joined Feb. 2014	Quote from nuffan: Here we go again...raising minimum wage is not EQUAL to paying the beer vendor the same A-Rod is paid... Why do right wing morons ALWAYS jump to that? If Walmart can not survive paying a living wage they should close their doors... and I for one HOPE THEY do...I have not shopped at Walmart since the 1980's... nuffan, A few years ago, President Obama proposed increasing the minimum wage from $7.25 to $9, and then, the Congressional democrats proposed to raise it to $10.10, and peg it to inflation. What region in the U.S. $10.10 X 40hrs X 52 weeks = $21,000 is a living wage for a single parent, one kid? And according to LOBO, "The point of a living wage is more about not needing to take money from you and me in taxes to pay welfare to workers
9/15/2015 10:50:01 AM	Estevan, SK
lobo_corazon Orleans, ON 46, joined May. 2008	Quote from nuffan: Here we go again...raising minimum wage is not EQUAL to paying the beer vendor the same A-Rod is paid... Why do right wing morons ALWAYS jump to that? If Walmart can not survive paying a living wage they should close their doors... and I for one HOPE THEY do...I have not shopped at Walmart since the 1980's... Right-wing lemmings just love the fact that it costs $300 to take a couple of kids to a ball game. A-Rod makes 100,000,000 or whatever... Who do you think pays for that? Just like when a CEO makes 100,000,000... Who do you think pays for that? I think they fantasize that one day they too will get their 100,000,000 when "their ship comes in", and they don't want the party to be spoiled before they get there. Problem is, that's never ever going to happen.
9/15/2015 10:51:29 AM	Estevan, SK
lobo_corazon Orleans, ON 46, joined May. 2008	Quote from mralwaysrite: nuffan, A few years ago, President Obama proposed increasing the minimum wage from $7.25 to $9, and then, the Congressional democrats proposed to raise it to $10.10, and peg it to inflation. What region in the U.S. $10.10 X 40hrs X 52 weeks = $21,000 is a living wage for a single parent, one kid? And according to LOBO, "The point of a living wage is more about not needing to take money from you and me in taxes to pay welfare to workers Rural Georgia, etc, etc. What is your point?
9/15/2015 10:51:35 AM	Estevan, SK
mr_bad_robot Cincinnati, OH 40, joined Jul. 2014	It's not Walmart's fault that good paying American jobs left the Country. It's the dumb a** consumers.
9/15/2015 10:58:07 AM	Estevan, SK
nuffan Kennesaw, GA 52, joined Mar. 2014 online now!	Quote from mralwaysrite: nuffan, A few years ago, President Obama proposed increasing the minimum wage from $7.25 to $9, and then, the Congressional democrats proposed to raise it to $10.10, and peg it to inflation. What region in the U.S. $10.10 X 40hrs X 52 weeks = $21,000 is a living wage for a single parent, one kid? And according to LOBO, "The point of a living wage is more about not needing to take money from you and me in taxes to pay welfare to workers Well $21,000 will just about support an individual... Single parent receiving Child support should be able to get by if they were earning $21,000...and the absent parent was also... but at $7.25 per hour they make under $16,000 and generally the absent parent is probably making the same...making it difficult to survive much less pay support... People tend to think living wage allows for the purchase of cigarettes, beer, drugs....it does not... A living wage should cover food, rent, utilities, healthcare and transportation... It is one thing if those at the bottom just completely mismanage their income... It is a completely different thing when those at the bottom who actually are trying but can not make it without assistance... calling them lazy addresses nothing...these are not the lazy people...They are actually willing to WORK...and yet STILL NEED ASSISTANCE...
9/15/2015 11:03:09 AM	Estevan, SK
lobo_corazon Orleans, ON 46, joined May. 2008	If Walmart's business isn't strong enough to afford their employees a living wage, then they should fold up and make way for businesses that can.
9/15/2015 11:07:07 AM	Estevan, SK
nat_now Ocala, FL 56, joined Jul. 2013	Quote from lobo_corazon: Rural Georgia, etc, etc. What is your point? And their quality of life ranks right up there with grass huts and reading by candle light. But many really are unfit for any workplace. If some of that kind of area were any more lackadaisical about work, or laid-back, they'd be sleep walking. Some people just weren't born into any hopes of success or principles, let alone ever be adept at anything. Now, if they know folk singing, basket weaving, or gator rastlin'.. maybe they need to take their show on the road
9/15/2015 11:08:00 AM	Estevan, SK
nat_now Ocala, FL 56, joined Jul. 2013	Quote from lobo_corazon: If Walmart's business isn't strong enough to afford their employees a living wage, then they should fold up and make way for businesses that can. They pay right for the brains it takes. Too bad if 4 people or 6 have to share digs to make a go of it.
9/15/2015 11:11:29 AM	Estevan, SK
inventtis2 South Haven, MI 37, joined Nov. 2012	Don't have kids if you can't a Ford them either.
9/15/2015 11:17:22 AM	Estevan, SK
mr_bad_robot Cincinnati, OH 40, joined Jul. 2014	Quote from inventtis2: Don't have kids if you can't a Ford them either. You see that's the view most intelligent people have. It's unfortunate that America is lacking intelligent people.
9/15/2015 11:19:14 AM	Estevan, SK
inventtis2 South Haven, MI 37, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from mr_bad_robot: You see that's the view most intelligent people have. It's unfortunate that America is lacking intelligent people. I think the government should pay smart people to have kids, instead of subsidizing the dumb ones to have kids.
9/15/2015 11:21:48 AM	Estevan, SK
Yasureoktoo Seattle, WA 60, joined Dec. 2014	Quote from inventtis2: I think the government should pay smart people to have kids, instead of subsidizing the dumb ones to have kids.
9/15/2015 11:23:09 AM	Estevan, SK
mralwaysrite Estevan, SK 53, joined Feb. 2014	Quote from mr_bad_robot: I never failed to print anything. I left out the total cost but made sure to include health care benefits to the equation. However, my point was there is no way in hell a company like Walmart will begin to pay their employees this kind of money working 2080 hour a year with benefits. Walmart can't pay all their employees living wages, they are a global discount retailer...."we sell for less" high volume orders from the cheapest manufacturing country, and mass distribution one laptop....$200 per unit one million laptops....$50 per unit 10 million......$40 per unit and at a certain volume, the manufacturer list price becomes fractional
9/15/2015 11:33:49 AM	Estevan, SK
nat_now Ocala, FL 56, joined Jul. 2013	Quote from inventtis2: I think the government should pay smart people to have kids, instead of subsidizing the dumb ones to have kids. Darwin's rolling in his grave.
9/15/2015 11:36:00 AM	Estevan, SK
mralwaysrite Estevan, SK 53, joined Feb. 2014	Quote from lobo_corazon: If Walmart's business isn't strong enough to afford their employees a living wage, then they should fold up and make way for businesses that can. They are structured this way, it is what it is. What's the difference between McDonald's and my employer? In 2014, same operating income, same net income, however, 420,000 employees versus 3,000 and most of our equipment and supplies are still manufactured in the U.S. and Canada.
9/15/2015 11:46:06 AM	Estevan, SK
Yasureoktoo Seattle, WA 60, joined Dec. 2014	Quote from lobo_corazon: If Walmart's business isn't strong enough to afford their employees a living wage, then they should fold up and make way for businesses that can. But then who will pay for Christy Waltons Habbits. It probably costs her several thousand a day to live.
9/15/2015 12:12:10 PM	Estevan, SK
clarity101 Aurora, CO 64, joined Oct. 2008	most of those i see complaining about a 'living wage' are under 50 years old.... does anyone know what a babysitter makes today??? oh wait they arent allowed to 'babysit' any more. they have to be licensed and registered nannys or daycare providers making $10-20 an hour. i made .50 an hour when i was 12-16. first job i made $1.75 at A&W drive in...rollerskates and all. i remember about 1970 they started the increased minimum wage to $2.25. i was 19 and working for a doctors office and i was very happy to get a .25 pay increase. in 1995 when i quit working for walmart and became selfemployed i was making a little over $13 when minimum wage was about $5. thru the years of selfemployment i increased my pay to about $25 an hour.... isnt that the AMERICAN WAY??? its called increased education +'increased cost of living' + increased wage = HARD WORK
9/15/2015 12:18:21 PM	Estevan, SK
nuffan Kennesaw, GA 52, joined Mar. 2014 online now!	Quote from mralwaysrite: Walmart can't pay all their employees living wages, they are a global discount retailer...."we sell for less" high volume orders from the cheapest manufacturing country, and mass distribution Then they should close their doors is they can only make a profit exploiting the working poor...
9/15/2015 12:32:06 PM	Estevan, SK
Yasureoktoo Seattle, WA 60, joined Dec. 2014	Quote from clarity101: most of those i see complaining about a 'living wage' are under 50 years old.... does anyone know what a babysitter makes today??? oh wait they arent allowed to 'babysit' any more. they have to be licensed and registered nannys or daycare providers making $10-20 an hour. i made .50 an hour when i was 12-16. first job i made $1.75 at A&W drive in...rollerskates and all. i remember about 1970 they started the increased minimum wage to $2.25. i was 19 and working for a doctors office and i was very happy to get a .25 pay increase. in 1995 when i quit working for walmart and became selfemployed i was making a little over $13 when minimum wage was about $5. thru the years of selfemployment i increased my pay to about $25 an hour.... isnt that the AMERICAN WAY??? its called increased education +'increased cost of living' + increased wage = HARD WORK I think the "living wage", concept is mostly the dropouts, crying they aren't making as much as the doctors.
9/15/2015 12:35:36 PM	Estevan, SK
lobo_corazon Orleans, ON 46, joined May. 2008	Quote from Yasureoktoo: But then who will pay for Christy Waltons Habbits. It probably costs her several thousand a day to live. She makes a million dollars per hour or more, so I suppose we don't need to shed a tear for her. If there's any seriousness to your question, I'm sure Christy can get by just fine spending her vast inheritance without needing a continual flow of more money from us. She, her kids, and her great-great grandkids need never contribute anything to society - They were all set for life as of the day Sam Walton's will was read. So how does it make any rational sense to send more money to them?
9/15/2015 12:36:54 PM	Estevan, SK
lobo_corazon Orleans, ON 46, joined May. 2008	Quote from inventtis2: I think the government should pay smart people to have kids, instead of subsidizing the dumb ones to have kids. But no sex ed, birth control or abortions, right?

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